Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Dear Chandrashekharji,Is the Kalachakra dasa system as practised now in popular astrology similar to the predictive Kalachakra Dasa system as practiced by the lamas. Kindly throw some light, I had met an indian who seems to have procured very rare texts on Kalachakra Dasa system of prediction from the lamas after lot of persuasion but even after lot of insistence from my part he wouldn't give out the texts, he said i need to grow older for that, I have forgotten his comments mostly but little i recollect is that he said it is superior to what most astrologers currently know of the Kalachakra Dasa system. He also seem to have indicated that this system is very much indian and during invasion of india, it got travelled into Afghanistan to Tibet through the traveling buddhist monks. Chandukaka or Mr. Dhananjayan can you kindly explain the meaning of "Bhagiratha-prayathna" Best wishes Sunil > Dear Dhananjayan,> I think the Pundits, perhaps confused it with the Kalachakra Puja > performed at Gaya. Kalachakra Dasha is elaborated upon in BPHS at > length. Therefore I think they are confusing this with the Kalachakra, > at the center of which resides Lord Shiva who, alone, can control the > gateway to 7 hells underneath as envisaged in Kalachakra. Kalachakra > Puja is performed by H.H. Dalai Lama every year at Bodh-Gaya. If you > could ask them about it and explain the difference between the two, I am > certain they will understand.> Chandrashekhar.> > Dhananjayan Brahma wrote:> > >> >> > Jyothis Vithvan Chandrashekharji,> >> > During my causal talk with my village Prohit and valluva-Pandaram,> > I have made a reference about the availability of Kalachakra dasa> > compilation in JHL.6. They astonished and said how could it be, it> > is Bhagiratha-prayathna .To understand, it is comparatively> > difficult and equal to venturing Siva-Patha-Dharshna, do their> > words are true? They further added, if at all available, it would> > only be a Naveena-Kalachakra-dasa system.> >> > Since they natured a doubt in me, I request you to opine on it as> > a Vijayadasami day gift.> >> > Regards,> >> > Dhananjayan.> >> > ------> > * Messenger* > > <http://uk.rd./mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenger.> > > - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! *Download > > Messenger Now* > > <http://uk.rd./mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenger./download/index.html> vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Dear Sunil, "Bhagiratha Prayatna" refers to the efforts taken by King Bhagiratha, a descendant of King Sagar to bring River Ganga to the Bharatavarsha for purification of the ashes of his ancestors. Flow of Ganga could not be borne by Earth and he had to request Lord Shiva to receive her first on his head. Then Ganga caused destruction of the Ashram of Rishi Janhu by her devastating flow.Rishi Janhu was angry and drank her and only after Bhagiratha pleaded with him, she was released through his ear, this is why she is also reffered to as "Jaanhavi". Many more difficulties were removed by King Bhagiratha till he could bring Ganga to Bharata. Thus when tremendous efforts are necessary to achieve an objective, it is referred to as "Bhagiratha Prayatna". Kalachakra in Tibetan mysticism refers to the Kalachakra which forms an advanced part of Tantra. If you remember only Dalai Lama conducts the Puja of Kalachakra and that too only once in an year. There is another eight lotus Kala-Chakra, above which are seven heavens and below are the Sapta (seven) Patalas (Hells). This has a connection with Yoginis and one not initiated in Tantra and having guidance of a realized Guru, should not attempt his hand at it. It is not possible to close the doors of hells if unintentionally opened. Only Lord Shiva has control over it. Perhaps this is why your friend does not want to reveal them to you. Better stay away from them. Chandrashekhar. Sunil John wrote: Dear Chandrashekharji, Is the Kalachakra dasa system as practised now in popular astrology similar to the predictive Kalachakra Dasa system as practiced by the lamas. Kindly throw some light, I had met an indian who seems to have procured very rare texts on Kalachakra Dasa system of prediction from the lamas after lot of persuasion but even after lot of insistence from my part he wouldn't give out the texts, he said i need to grow older for that, I have forgotten his comments mostly but little i recollect is that he said it is superior to what most astrologers currently know of the Kalachakra Dasa system. He also seem to have indicated that this system is very much indian and during invasion of india, it got travelled into Afghanistan to Tibet through the traveling buddhist monks. Chandukaka or Mr. Dhananjayan can you kindly explain the meaning of "Bhagiratha-prayathna" Best wishes Sunil > Dear Dhananjayan, > I think the Pundits, perhaps confused it with the Kalachakra Puja > performed at Gaya. Kalachakra Dasha is elaborated upon in BPHS at > length. Therefore I think they are confusing this with the Kalachakra, > at the center of which resides Lord Shiva who, alone, can control the > gateway to 7 hells underneath as envisaged in Kalachakra. Kalachakra > Puja is performed by H.H. Dalai Lama every year at Bodh-Gaya. If you > could ask them about it and explain the difference between the two, I am > certain they will understand. > Chandrashekhar. > > Dhananjayan Brahma wrote: > > > > > > > Jyothis Vithvan Chandrashekharji, > > > > During my causal talk with my village Prohit and valluva-Pandaram, > > I have made a reference about the availability of Kalachakra dasa > > compilation in JHL.6. They astonished and said how could it be, it > > is Bhagiratha-prayathna .To understand, it is comparatively > > difficult and equal to venturing Siva-Patha-Dharshna, do their > > words are true? They further added, if at all available, it would > > only be a Naveena-Kalachakra-dasa system. > > > > Since they natured a doubt in me, I request you to opine on it as > > a Vijayadasami day gift. > > > > Regards, > > > > Dhananjayan. > > > > ------ > > * Messenger* > > <http://uk.rd./mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenger.> > > - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! *Download > > Messenger Now* > > <http://uk.rd./mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenger./download/index.html> vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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