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Namaste, > Two days back i was seeing George's chart and if i remember well even

> after using Sudarshana Chakra Progression technique as propounded by > great

astrologer Mr.Finn Wandhahl, we get current year to be a nice I am not

familiar with the works of the gentleman you refer to, but Sudarsana Chakra

progression technique was originally propounded by Sage Parasara. Parasara gave

a lot of importance to Sudarsana Chakra (SC) dasa. He said that all the annual,

monthly and daily events from birth to death become crystal clear with it. He

said that one can make perfect predictions by combining Ashtakavarga and

Sudarsana Chakra dasa. > year for Mr Bush as Kal Amrita yoga is coming for this

year btu > sincce I have never understood Kal Sarpa or Amrita yogas properly i >

was confused.

I tried hard to get Sanjay ji to speak on SC dasa at one of the conferences, but

he always avoided this topic. He probably thinks it is a sensitive topic and

does not want to disclose it to all. However, I can disclose my own findings,

as I have done some private research on SC dasa. Many people mistakenly think

that SC dasa is judged from natal chart. That is IMHO wrong. If that is true,

things will repeat in one's life in every 12 years, as dasa repeats after every

12 years. By using the word "varshaadau" (aadi = beginning and aadau = in the

beginning), Parasara clearly hinted that it is to be judged from the Dasa

Pravesha chart (transit chart at the time of the beginning of dasa or antardasa

or pratyantardasa). The rules of judging the placement of planets are clearly

outlined by Parasara. In fact, I always maintained that muntha used in Tajaka

charts is nothing but the SC dasa sign and annual Tajaka chart is nothing but

the dasa pravesha chart of SC dasa. Use Sun, Moon or lagna based on the matters

of interest. For matters of political power and opportunity in career, I always

found Sun useful. I experimented to see if Sun, Moon and lagna work well with

dasa, antardasa and pratyantardasa or something like that, but I did not find

it useful.

 

For antardasas, some people simply count from dasa sign. IMHO, that is wrong. My

reading of Parasara convinced me that the antardasas should begin from the LORD

of dasa sign.

 

Finally, some people use this technique with only rasi chart, but I found far

better results when I used it in the divisional charts of interest.

 

Let me give an example.

 

George W Bush

 

July 6, 1946Time: 7:30:00Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of

GMT)Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29"

His natal dasamsa is shown in Figure 1.

 

 

Let us consider SC dasa from Sun to time his victory in 2000 presidential election.

 

In July 2000, he finished 54 years and started the 55th year. Noting that 55

modulo 12 is 7 (after subtracting 48 from 55), we see that the dasa is of 7th

house. Taking the 7th house from natal dasamsa Sun, we get Gemini. So take

Gemini as the progressed Surya lagna during 2000-01. Now the dasa starts on

July 6, 2000 at 3:32:53 am. The dasamsa chart at that time is shown in Figure

2.

 

 

If you take Gemini as lagna and look at this chart, the 10th house is strong.

The 10th lord Jupiter in own sign and 5th lord Venus in exaltation occupy the

10th from Gemini and give a raja yoga. Another benefic Moon joins them. Though

there is Rahu too, the 10th house is quite strong and promises auspicious

events and raja yoga in career. The 3rd lord Sun and 6th lord Mars are

ill-placed in 7th as per Parasara's strict rules and they show relationship

problems, litigation and problems from government. However, the strength of the

10th house ensured final success.

 

Now let us look antardasas. The 6th antardasa started on December 6, 2000 at

4:46:12 am (using a timezone of 4:00 hours west still). The dasamsa at this

time is shown in Figure 3.

 

 

Because this is the commencement chart of the 6th antaradasa, go back to natal

chart and count the 6th from dasa lord. In Gemini dasa, Mercury is dasa lord.

He is in Leo in natal dasamsa (Figure 1). The 6th from it is Capricorn. So

antardasa is Cp and use Cp as lagna in Figure 3. Though several malefics are

pounding lagna, there are 4 benefics on the 4th-10th axis. Especially, Venus

and Mercury in 10th cause a raja yoga as they own 5th, 9th and 10th. This shows

a lot of headache early in the antardasa and then success and power.

 

Finally, look at the 2.5 day period. The 4th 2.5 day pratyantardasa in Cp

antardasa started on December 13, 2000 at 1:57:21 pm (still using 4:00 west

timezone, i.e. timezone of birth). The dasamsa positions of planets at this

time are shown in Figure 4.

 

 

Because this is the 4th pratyantardasa (PD), look at the 4th house from

antardasa lord. Antardasa is Cp. Its lord is Saturn. His natal dasamsa position

as per Figure 1 is Aries. Counting from there, the 4th PD is Cancer. Take Cn as

lagna in Figure 4.

 

Benefics in 10th are favorable according to Parasara. Sun is a benefic when in a

friendly sign or in exaltation according to him. So exalted Sun and Jupiter in

10th are very auspicious. This shows a great break in career during the 2.5 day

period. Benefic Moon in 9th is well-placed. Benefic Mercury in 8th is

well-placed.

 

In contrast, make the commencement chart for the 2nd 2.5 day pratyantardasa of

this antardasa (at December 8, 2000 at 3:51:52 pm). In this chart, from PD sign

Taurus, Mars and Sun are in 10th (in inimical sign) and this shows bad events in

career. Jupiter is in 12th. Benefic Moon in 6th showing a small victory to the

enemy. Saturn and Rahu are in 9th, showing a bad event from father or

judiciary. During this 2.5 day period, Bush suffered a setback as Gore received

a favorable judgment. However, the federal Supreme Court struck down the

judgment of Florida supreme court and Gore conceded on Dec 15.

 

SC dasa works nicely. The trick is to use the dasa pravesha chart to judge it,

use the divisional charts, take antardasas from dasa lord rather than dasa

sign, take the 3 references judiciously and follow the rules of Parasara

strictly.

 

As for how ashtakavarga has to be integrated into this, I will have to keep

quiet for some more time.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha

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Great findings !

 

On the list you are amongst some of leading advocates of the Sudarsan Chakra

Dasa(SCD). Even in your title Vedic Astrology An Integrated Approach, you've

reiterated the great predictive capacity of the SCD as Parashar illustrated in

his BPHS.

 

The approach of readig dash/antar of SCD, you hinted here appeal to me and would

surely add our analytical capability. No doubt, SCD works well in solar return

charts in many cases as return charts are identical to Dasa Parvesh Chart of

SCD.

 

I also experienced SCD a very fine tool of forecasting, like a natural dasha,

which tells the surroundings, environments and happenings around us.

 

Regards

M.Imran

"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Namaste, > Two days back i was seeing George's chart and if i remember well even

> after using Sudarshana Chakra Progression technique as propounded by > great

astrologer Mr.Finn Wandhahl, we get current year to be a nice I am not

familiar with the works of the gentleman you refer to, but Sudarsana Chakra

progression technique was originally propounded by Sage Parasara. Parasara gave

a lot of importance to Sudarsana Chakra (SC) dasa. He said that all the annual,

monthly and daily events from birth to death become crystal clear with it. He

said that one can make perfect predictions by combining Ashtakavarga and

Sudarsana Chakra dasa. > year for Mr Bush as Kal Amrita yoga is coming for this

year btu > sincce I have never understood Kal Sarpa or Amrita yogas properly i >

was confused.

I tried hard to get Sanjay ji to speak on SC dasa at one of the conferences, but

he always avoided this topic. He probably thinks it is a sensitive topic and

does not want to disclose it to all. However, I can disclose my own findings,

as I have done some private research on SC dasa. Many people mistakenly think

that SC dasa is judged from natal chart. That is IMHO wrong. If that is true,

things will repeat in one's life in every 12 years, as dasa repeats after every

12 years. By using the word "varshaadau" (aadi = beginning and aadau = in the

beginning), Parasara clearly hinted that it is to be judged from the Dasa

Pravesha chart (transit chart at the time of the beginning of dasa or antardasa

or pratyantardasa). The rules of judging the placement of planets are clearly

outlined by Parasara. In fact, I always maintained that muntha used in Tajaka

charts is nothing but the SC dasa sign and annual Tajaka chart is

nothing but the dasa pravesha chart of SC dasa. Use Sun, Moon or lagna based on

the matters of interest. For matters of political power and opportunity in

career, I always found Sun useful. I experimented to see if Sun, Moon and lagna

work well with dasa, antardasa and pratyantardasa or something like that, but I

did not find it useful.

 

For antardasas, some people simply count from dasa sign. IMHO, that is wrong. My

reading of Parasara convinced me that the antardasas should begin from the LORD

of dasa sign.

 

Finally, some people use this technique with only rasi chart, but I found far

better results when I used it in the divisional charts of interest.

 

Let me give an example.

 

George W Bush

 

July 6, 1946Time: 7:30:00Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of

GMT)Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29"

His natal dasamsa is shown in Figure 1.

 

 

Let us consider SC dasa from Sun to time his victory in 2000 presidential election.

 

In July 2000, he finished 54 years and started the 55th year. Noting that 55

modulo 12 is 7 (after subtracting 48 from 55), we see that the dasa is of 7th

house. Taking the 7th house from natal dasamsa Sun, we get Gemini. So take

Gemini as the progressed Surya lagna during 2000-01. Now the dasa starts on

July 6, 2000 at 3:32:53 am. The dasamsa chart at that time is shown in Figure

2.

 

 

If you take Gemini as lagna and look at this chart, the 10th house is strong.

The 10th lord Jupiter in own sign and 5th lord Venus in exaltation occupy the

10th from Gemini and give a raja yoga. Another benefic Moon joins them. Though

there is Rahu too, the 10th house is quite strong and promises auspicious

events and raja yoga in career. The 3rd lord Sun and 6th lord Mars are

ill-placed in 7th as per Parasara's strict rules and they show relationship

problems, litigation and problems from government. However, the strength of the

10th house ensured final success.

 

Now let us look antardasas. The 6th antardasa started on December 6, 2000 at

4:46:12 am (using a timezone of 4:00 hours west still). The dasamsa at this

time is shown in Figure 3.

 

 

Because this is the commencement chart of the 6th antaradasa, go back to natal

chart and count the 6th from dasa lord. In Gemini dasa, Mercury is dasa lord.

He is in Leo in natal dasamsa (Figure 1). The 6th from it is Capricorn. So

antardasa is Cp and use Cp as lagna in Figure 3. Though several malefics are

pounding lagna, there are 4 benefics on the 4th-10th axis. Especially, Venus

and Mercury in 10th cause a raja yoga as they own 5th, 9th and 10th. This shows

a lot of headache early in the antardasa and then success and power.

 

Finally, look at the 2.5 day period. The 4th 2.5 day pratyantardasa in Cp

antardasa started on December 13, 2000 at 1:57:21 pm (still using 4:00 west

timezone, i.e. timezone of birth). The dasamsa positions of planets at this

time are shown in Figure 4.

 

 

Because this is the 4th pratyantardasa (PD), look at the 4th house from

antardasa lord. Antardasa is Cp. Its lord is Saturn. His natal dasamsa position

as per Figure 1 is Aries. Counting from there, the 4th PD is Cancer. Take Cn as

lagna in Figure 4.

 

Benefics in 10th are favorable according to Parasara. Sun is a benefic when in a

friendly sign or in exaltation according to him. So exalted Sun and Jupiter in

10th are very auspicious. This shows a great break in career during the 2.5 day

period. Benefic Moon in 9th is well-placed. Benefic Mercury in 8th is

well-placed.

 

In contrast, make the commencement chart for the 2nd 2.5 day pratyantardasa of

this antardasa (at December 8, 2000 at 3:51:52 pm). In this chart, from PD sign

Taurus, Mars and Sun are in 10th (in inimical sign) and this shows bad events in

career. Jupiter is in 12th. Benefic Moon in 6th showing a small victory to the

enemy. Saturn and Rahu are in 9th, showing a bad event from father or

judiciary. During this 2.5 day period, Bush suffered a setback as Gore received

a favorable judgment. However, the federal Supreme Court struck down the

judgment of Florida supreme court and Gore conceded on Dec 15.

 

SC dasa works nicely. The trick is to use the dasa pravesha chart to judge it,

use the divisional charts, take antardasas from dasa lord rather than dasa

sign, take the 3 references judiciously and follow the rules of Parasara

strictly.

 

As for how ashtakavarga has to be integrated into this, I will have to keep

quiet for some more time.

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