Guest guest Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Hello Narasimha: I'm not at all against election predictions. What bothers me is predicting a win for the "favorite." It is common knowledge that Bush is the favorite so predicting a win for him isn't challenging at all. All the Jyotish needs to do is come up with a chart for the "winning" candidate that has a lot of Raj-yogs. The REAL chart is always a mystery. -- There are THREE charts of Kerry floating around, which one is correct??? I'll also tell you why Bush is a favorite. The "thinking" Americans live on the coasts, they can easily see through Bush's facade and they'll vote for Kerry. However, the Americans living in "middle America" are big time idiots. I happened to recruit some of these idots from mid-west in the 90s when Silicon Valley was going through a boom and "good" employees weren't available. My "mid-west" recruits were college educated, but were so dumb that they could be used as a definition for "dumb." And, these are the folks who're going to get excited when Bush says "fillper-flopper,protect America,Saddam Hussien attacked New York," etc., etc. And, these idot-Americans far outweight thinking-Americans in numbers and they're all going to go vote for Bush; therefore, I can predict without using Jyothis that Bush'll win. You make a very good point about laid-off American in Ohio, but this state is full of idot-Americans. Bush'll go there, liberally use the words "Jesus Christ,Lord,protecting-America," etc. and these voters, even though they're starving, will go vote for Bush because they heard him say words that appeal to them. Well, I don't mean to offend certain Americans, but that is the American reality--most Americans aren't too smart. America produces a few "Bill Gates," but many idots who're unemployed and starving due to Bush's policies, but readily go vote for him as he uses the words "Lord Jesus" and "protecting-America" so often. Kerry is a prolific thinker and has served United States for over 20 years, yet the idot-Americans won't vote for him becaues he doesn't bring Chritianity in his speeches, doesn't say he is doing "Lord's work" and speaks logically in complete sentences. Mukund vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste Mukund, > > You don't have your facts right. The opinion poll results are too > close in several battleground states. For example, you say Bush is > sure to win in Ohio. As per the latest Gallup poll conducted during > Sept 25-28, Bush leads 49 to 47 in Ohio. That is too close to call > and well within the error margin. It does not need a miracle for > Kerry to close that gap. Layoffs and outsourcing are a major issue > in Ohio. Mind you, the debate on the domestic issues is yet to come. > One solid debate performance on jobs can tilt Ohio in Kerry's favor. > > While the situation is quite clear in some states, the race is too > close in several "battleground" states. It is most certainly true > that Bush and Kerry still have an almost 50-50 chance. Your > assertion that "Bush has already won" is totally misled and > misleading. The race is wide open. > > One word as the admin of this list: > > Any astrologers who want to predict the result of the presidential > election should feel free to do so. Do not let Mukund's unfair > criticism influence your thinking. Even when there is a clear > favorite, I always welcome predictions here. The existence of a > clear favorite does not undermine the credibility of a prediction > that is accompanied by astrological reasoning. Moreover, we do not > have a clear favorite in this 50-50 race. Mukund is not right in > saying that "Bush has already won" and please ignore him. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > PS: After reading more of the media reaction tonight, I want to > concede that my prediction that Bush will come out with a little bit > of advantage in this close debate is wrong. It was Kerry who had a > little bit of advatange. However, I think my broader prediction that > it will be an evenly contested debate is correct, as most pundits > agree that neither hit a "home run". > > PPS: My last prediction was only about yesterday's debate. It was > not about the final election outcome. I am still grappling with all > the contradictory influences. I have not yet made a prediction on > who will win. I said in July when Bush's numbers were down that Bush > would rebound from September first week, as Saturn and Jupiter were > moving from 10th and 12th to 11th and 1st respectively from his > natal Moon. That did happen and Bush had a rebound. However, that > was also a limited prediction and I have not yet predicted the final > outcome. > > > Hello Sunil: > > > > Bush has already won. To be a winner, a candidate needs 270 > > delegates. As of today, Kerry has only 237 delegates,i.e. > California, > > Washigton and Oregon on the West Coast; New York, Massachusets, > New > > Hampshire, other little states on the East Coast are already > voting > > for Kerry, but between them there aren't enough delegates to give > > Kerry a victory. > > > > It'll be a miracle if Kerry is able to change the hearts/minds of > > voters in 3-4 big states like Florida, Ohio, Nevada to amass the > > additional 33 delegates he needs in his pocket to win. > > > > In United States, bigger the state, higher the number of delegates > > from that state. California has the highest number of delegates > and > > Kerry has CA in his pocket. > > > > But in 30 more days, Kerry needs many more states to vote in his > > favor. It'll be a miracle if he is able to accomplish this. Also, > > Americans have NEVER elected NEW leadership while it was at war > and > > it is unlikely that the American voters will change the > leardership > > now. > > > > Mukund > > > > vedic astrology, "suniljohn_2002" > > <suniljohn_2004@h...> wrote: > > > Hi Mukund , > > > Chandrashekharji had predicted the loss of Bush in the coming > > > elections. I came to know this when a month back I had similar > > > thoughts through different angle of his chart & Chandrashekharji > > > cleared my doubt on Marana position of Jup in Bush's chart, I > think > > > at the Puri conf he predicted that. > > > > > > Today again I was looking at his chart to recheck my earlier > look > > and > > > was wondering how tough it is to predict as too many complex > issues > > > are confusing. > > > > > > Can anyone tell me how to see or find out MC position in Bush's > > chart > > > and in which Nav would it be. Btw which software can give these > > > positions, any inputs from anyone. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > SJ > > > Mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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