Results of Jupiter in 11th ... Birth details

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Namaskar to all the Gurus,

 

I personally found the discussion on Jupiter in 11th house very

interesting and informative at the same time.

Having Jupiter in 11th in my chart am sharing few details and have a

few queries.

 

As per the thread, found these things to be valid in my case.

 

a) Jupiter in 11th will not make one first born

b) Scorpio: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 5th is the best benefic.

His

presence in 11th will give rise to Yoga. He will make the native

ambitious.

c) If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from

Saints, as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

Not entirely sure on this point!

Last time i enrolled myself in Art of Living course held over a

week in college. Had the first setback as far as studies are concerned

 

Not sure on these following observations though...

1) 11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN

or MEN and tends to make you look beyond

the fence of Marital boundry

 

2) Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first born.

Keeping company of saints for people with 11th

house placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi

observation

 

3) Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father)

might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father

might be the only son or last son and may have better share of

ancestral property than other siblings.

So it is better not to leave the side of father.Saint part escapes

comprehension of self.

 

4) > I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am

I correct,

> experts kindly guide.

 

5) > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such

> people are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been

with

> them since their past birth.

> >

> > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from

> Saints, as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

> >

> > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your

> father and be with your father. You will escape harm from all

enemies,

> even the Devil

 

6) Thus Guru weakens any bhava where he sits to such an extent that

that

bhava indications suffer.

Coming to question of Guru,yes you are absolutely right.

Guru in 11th makes a person a perfact opportunist and this Guru may

make him not to let any opportunity just GO ....even if that is

something like jumping the boundry of Morality.

Self knows cases with 11th Guru people who look very SADHU and pious.

But at the first given opportunity, they do not mind cheating their

spouses.Due to reasons their birth data is not posted here. ( for the

purpose of the discussion, i have posted my details here)

 

Some more observations....With the permission of the learned

astrologers here, let me put down some more observations

which i have come across in various books.

 

7) Wife of natal will never be happy, even though venus is siutated

in a good house( In my case Ve is exalted in Psices)

 

8) Sister, father's sister, daughter etc cannot be happy

 

9) Even though Mercury is placed in a good house, he would not be

getting the results from business related to mercury.

 

10) Natal will be in debt too.

 

11)Natal will remain happy till he is residing with his father

(expired in 1997 in my case) and in a joint family( satying away from

home in hostel)

The moment he will leave his father's shelter, he will be sourrounded

by problems.

 

( points 7 to 11 from "Lal Kitab")

 

12) (BV Raman Vol .II ) Lord of 11th house in 4th house => One

acquires profits through landed estates, rentals and products of the

earth.

He wil be renowned for his learning and scholarship of various

subjects. He will have a devoted and charming wife.

 

13)(Bv Raman Vol.II) Planet in 11 house Juipter => Native wil be long-

lived. Limited number of issues, will be bold and wealthy with a

piercing intellect

and will become renowned. He will be fond of music, will accumulate

riches and will have many firends.

 

 

DOB : 24th March , 1981 (Asc: Scorpio)

Time : 23:35 hours

Place : Bangalore

Latitude: 012:59:N / Longitude: 077:35:E

 

Details: Male, 23 years, student pursuing MBA (marketing) after BE

(computer)

Worked for 4 months in an International NGO as a field salesman after

engineering!

Currently preparing for placements scheduled for February 2005.

 

1. Please enlighten on the career prospects and line of work for

utmost success. Will the native do work related to field of study or

otherwise.

Rahu in 9th. Budh aspecting 10th. Guru and

Shani in 11th.

 

2. According to the earlier discussion on the thread ( Guru destroys

bhava in which it is placed),

since Guru (Vakra) is placed in 11th - the house of gains, what will

be its effects?

Will I be in service or run my own business. If business, the

indications of profits/loss.

 

 

3.Sun lord of 10th , Me aspect on 10 house, Sa-Ju combination in 11th

and Su-Ve-Ma in 5th house.

This being the case, the astrologer I consulted, for wearing

gemstones (I am wearing yellow sapphire

on RH Index finger and Gomedh on LH Middle finger) was at a loss to

clearly point out the most

probable line of work - due to the congregation of the planets. I

request the learned to elucidate

on these aspects of the chart.

 

Birth and Navamsha Charts ( Enclosed )

 

Thanks a lot,

 

Best Regards,

Tejasvi

 

 

 

 

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Message: 24

Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:47:21 +0530

"Raman Suprajarama" <cru115

RE: Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th placed

jupiter fellows?

 

 

Namasthe!

 

I don't feel Jupiter in 11th will make one first born. With regard to

saints, I don't think it is true.

 

One aspect of Jupiter is to make a person greedy and blindfolded

(temporarily). In a chart where Jupiter is in 11th or 5th, the native

will

become jealous and loses the ability to judge between right and

wrong. This

however is applicable, if Jupiter is malefic.

 

The native can be compared to Dhratharashtra (in Mahabharatha).

Dhratharashtra will become so fond of his son that he forgets what is

right

and what is wrong. The first sloka of Bhagawad Gita gives a clear

picture.

 

The sloka is as follows:

 

Dhratarashtra Uvacha

"Dharmakshetre Kuruksetre samavetah yuyutsavaha

Mamakah pandavaschiva kimakurvatha sanjaya"

 

This can be understood as

 

Dhratarashtra says:

In the land of Dharma (he contradicts when he himself is practicing

Adharma), which belongs to the Kurus, assembled and eager (note the

terminology used - eager) to battle, Mine and Pandu sons (Here, he

differentiates between his and his brother's sons. Pandu is his

brother and

Pandu's sons are naturally like his sons. He is so much fond of his

son,

that he starts differentiating, and which eventually led to the Great

War),

are doing, Sanjaya

 

Let us consider Jupiter's position in 11th for all ascendants.

 

Aries: Jupiter as lord of 9th and 12th is Benefic. If placed in 11th,

he

will be in the house of Saturn. He will be good and be a

philanthropic.

 

Taurus: Jupiter as lord of 8th and 11th is Malefic. As lord of the

11th, in

the 11th, he will become very greedy, but financially will be well

off.

 

Gemini: Jupiter as lord of 7th and 10th will be a kendradhipathi. His

presence in 11th will land him in a friend's house. The native will

not be

well off, but will undertake good deeds.

 

Cancer: Jupiter as lord of 6th and 9th becomes neutral. In 11th, he

will be

in the house of Venus, his enemy and not do much good. The native

could have

more enemies and debt. If influenced by Mars, can produce Yoga.

 

Leo: Jupiter as lord of 5th and 8th becomes malefic. Jupiter in the

11th

will land him in Mercury's house. The native will have uneven income

and

will be fond of pleasures.

 

Virgo: Jupiter as the lord of 4th and 7th will become kendradhipathi.

In

11th, he will be in house of the Moon. The person will be God-fearing

and

will undertake charitable deeds. Moon in 2nd house can give rise to

Yoga.

 

Libra: Jupiter as the lord of 3rd and 6th will become malefic. In

11th, he

will increase debts and enemies. He will be first born and will be

easily

offended.

 

Scorpio: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 5th is the best benefic. His

presence in 11th will give rise to Yoga. He will make the native

ambitious.

 

Sagittarius: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 4th lord, in 11th will make

the

person highly ambitious, open-minded and unassuming.

 

Capricorn: Jupiter as the 3rd and 12th lord makes him a malefic. In

11th,

the native will be Casanova. He is usually unhappy. Presence of Mars

in 11th

will not result in Yoga.

 

Aquarius: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 11th is malefic. In 11th, he

will

give rise to Yoga and make the native rich and influential. The

native will

also involve in inappropriate acts.

 

Pisces: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 10th lord in 11th will make the

native

greedy and jealous.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Om Tat Sat,

 

Raman Suprajarama

 

 

 

 

 

nameisego [nameisego]

Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:26 PM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for

11th

placed jupiter fellows?

 

 

 

 

Hello,

Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first born.

Keeping company of saints for people with 11th

house placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi

observation.

 

11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN

or MEN and tends to make you look beyond

the fence of Marital boundry.

 

Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father)

might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father

might be the only son or last son and may have better share of

ancestral property than other siblings.

So it is better not to leave the side of father.

 

Saint part escapes comprehension of self.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "sushmita34"

<sushmita34> wrote:

>

> Hi Rahul,

> After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would

> surely love to see the reply by experts on this.

> I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I correct,

> experts kindly guide.

>

> Regards,

> Sushmita

>

> vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday"

> <rahul_10uday> wrote:

> >

> > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far

they

> > are true?

> >

> > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such

> people

> > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with

> them

> > since their past birth.

> >

> > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from

> Saints,

> > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

> >

> > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your

> father

> > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies,

> even

> > the Devil

> >

> > Rahul

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Message: 25

Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:39:41 -0000

"nameisego" <nameisego

Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th placed jupiter

fellows?

 

 

 

Hello Sri Raman ,

 

Please understand that NO RULE IN ASTROLOGY IS WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS.

Self has posted a lot on Jupiter which you might have had a chance to

read.

 

Principle of Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva....

has been found by self as holding true in majority of cases.

Thus Guru destroys(To a larger or smaller extent) the bhava where he

sits.

Self is of opinion that Guru acts (as white ant destoying the inner

wood) and any other bad period/dasa etc cracks and destroys the Bhava

indication.

Thus Guru weakens any bhava where he sits to such an extent that that

bhava indications suffer.

Coming to question of Guru,yes you are absolutely right.

Guru in 11th makes a person a perfact opportunist and this Guru may

make him not to let any opportunity just GO ....even if that is

something like jumping the boundry of Morality.

Self knows cases with 11th Guru people who look very SADHU and pious.

But at the first given opportunity, they do not mind cheating their

spouses.

Due to reasons their birth data is not posted here.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Raman Suprajarama"

<cru115@n...> wrote:

>

> Namasthe!

>

> I don't feel Jupiter in 11th will make one first born. With regard

to

> saints, I don't think it is true.

>

> One aspect of Jupiter is to make a person greedy and blindfolded

> (temporarily). In a chart where Jupiter is in 11th or 5th, the

native will

> become jealous and loses the ability to judge between right and

wrong. This

> however is applicable, if Jupiter is malefic.

>

> The native can be compared to Dhratharashtra (in Mahabharatha).

> Dhratharashtra will become so fond of his son that he forgets what

is right

> and what is wrong. The first sloka of Bhagawad Gita gives a clear

picture.

>

> The sloka is as follows:

>

> Dhratarashtra Uvacha

> "Dharmakshetre Kuruksetre samavetah yuyutsavaha

> Mamakah pandavaschiva kimakurvatha sanjaya"

>

> This can be understood as

>

> Dhratarashtra says:

> In the land of Dharma (he contradicts when he himself is practicing

> Adharma), which belongs to the Kurus, assembled and eager (note the

> terminology used - eager) to battle, Mine and Pandu sons (Here, he

> differentiates between his and his brother's sons. Pandu is his

brother and

> Pandu's sons are naturally like his sons. He is so much fond of his

son,

> that he starts differentiating, and which eventually led to the

Great War),

> are doing, Sanjaya

>

> Let us consider Jupiter's position in 11th for all ascendants.

>

> Aries: Jupiter as lord of 9th and 12th is Benefic. If placed in

11th, he

> will be in the house of Saturn. He will be good and be a

philanthropic.

>

> Taurus: Jupiter as lord of 8th and 11th is Malefic. As lord of the

11th, in

> the 11th, he will become very greedy, but financially will be well

off.

>

> Gemini: Jupiter as lord of 7th and 10th will be a kendradhipathi.

His

> presence in 11th will land him in a friend's house. The native will

not be

> well off, but will undertake good deeds.

>

> Cancer: Jupiter as lord of 6th and 9th becomes neutral. In 11th, he

will be

> in the house of Venus, his enemy and not do much good. The native

could have

> more enemies and debt. If influenced by Mars, can produce Yoga.

>

> Leo: Jupiter as lord of 5th and 8th becomes malefic. Jupiter in the

11th

> will land him in Mercury's house. The native will have uneven

income and

> will be fond of pleasures.

>

> Virgo: Jupiter as the lord of 4th and 7th will become

kendradhipathi. In

> 11th, he will be in house of the Moon. The person will be God-

fearing and

> will undertake charitable deeds. Moon in 2nd house can give rise to

Yoga.

>

> Libra: Jupiter as the lord of 3rd and 6th will become malefic. In

11th, he

> will increase debts and enemies. He will be first born and will be

easily

> offended.

>

> Scorpio: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 5th is the best benefic. His

> presence in 11th will give rise to Yoga. He will make the native

ambitious.

>

> Sagittarius: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 4th lord, in 11th will

make the

> person highly ambitious, open-minded and unassuming.

>

> Capricorn: Jupiter as the 3rd and 12th lord makes him a malefic. In

11th,

> the native will be Casanova. He is usually unhappy. Presence of

Mars in 11th

> will not result in Yoga.

>

> Aquarius: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 11th is malefic. In 11th,

he will

> give rise to Yoga and make the native rich and influential. The

native will

> also involve in inappropriate acts.

>

> Pisces: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 10th lord in 11th will make

the native

> greedy and jealous.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Om Tat Sat,

>

> Raman Suprajarama

>

>

>

>

>

> nameisego [nameisego]

> Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:26 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for

11th

> placed jupiter fellows?

>

>

>

>

> Hello,

> Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first born.

> Keeping company of saints for people with 11th

> house placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi

> observation.

>

> 11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN

> or MEN and tends to make you look beyond

> the fence of Marital boundry.

>

> Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father)

> might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father

> might be the only son or last son and may have better share of

> ancestral property than other siblings.

> So it is better not to leave the side of father.

>

> Saint part escapes comprehension of self.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "sushmita34"

> <sushmita34> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Rahul,

> > After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would

> > surely love to see the reply by experts on this.

> > I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I

correct,

> > experts kindly guide.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Sushmita

> >

> > vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday"

> > <rahul_10uday> wrote:

> > >

> > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far

> they

> > > are true?

> > >

> > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such

> > people

> > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been

with

> > them

> > > since their past birth.

> > >

> > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from

> > Saints,

> > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

> > >

> > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your

> > father

> > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies,

> > even

> > > the Devil

> > >

> > > Rahul