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In the life of Bush did a significant event occur on or around 7th of July 2003,

if some people who follow his life and remember this pls let me know on the list

or privately. Also is their any site which gives event dates of Bush or any

other famous personalities, it shall be most helpful.

Love & Light

 

SJSushmita S <sushmita34 > wrote:

Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:03:22 -0700 (PDT)Sushmita S Fwd: US

Electionjjnet2000_in

SJ, do read this,

 

Sush

"Vedic AstrologySushmita S" US ElectionMon, 20 Sep

2004 09:40:05 +0530

 

Application of Chaitra Shukla Pratipada

US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS 2004

 

… … … change ahead !!!

 

 

 

BACKGROUND

 

The US Presidential Election 2004 is likely to be a close affair though it may

not match the suspense, hype and controversy that surrounded the election in

2000. And what an election the 2000 affair turned out to be indeed! And let me

refresh for new readers that it did not come as a surprise, at least to the

readers of Vedic Astrology. Based on the foresight accorded to us by the divine

science of Vedic Astrology and by the blessings of Almighty this author not only

was able to pinpoint the outcome but also the circumstances and drama that

unfolded during the run up. This was covered at length in earlier issues of

Vedic Astrology namely July-August and September-October 2000 issues. These

articles can also be viewed at www.vedicastro.com.

 

There are views supporting both candidates and each side is with considerable

merit too. In fact this very publication has carried articles from authors

belonging to both camps. While the natal particulars for George Bush Jr. are

fairly clear, there have been a number of alternate birth details for Democrat

challenger John Kerry ostensibly. This adds further controversy to the

situation setting the stage for varied views.

 

The election to presidency after all definitely extends beyond the limitations

of an individual horoscope. And the presidency of the United States of America,

the world’s most powerful country, would have a definite impact extending well

beyond its national boundaries on to every nook and corner of the globe.

Therefore the likely shape of events in the near and distant future must

provide us with definite clues with regard to the next occupant of the White

House based on the policy stance and available plan of governance.

 

In order to circumvent the controversy a humble attempt is being made to try and

decipher the situation using Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart. It may be pertinent

to mention that using this methodology on the just concluded Indian Elections

worked surprisingly well. The article is in the May-June 2004 issue of this

journal, and also at www.vedicastro.com .

 

PERSPECTIVE

 

 

Chaitra Shukla Pratipada Chart for USA

 

 

To initiate our quest let us go on to examine the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada Chart

for the United States confining ourselves to the issue at hand. For those of you

who may not be familiar the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada Chart it is perhaps

desirable to provide a very brief introduction to the same. In fact this is one

of the most potent tools that goes a long way to establish the significance of

Vedic Astrology and perhaps its authenticity as well. The Chaitra Shukla

Pratipada chart is also referred to as the Hindu New Year; it has a Luni-Solar

basis and is the most popular and time-tested method of mundane

predictions for the forthcoming year.

 

The year commences when the Moon has just passed the Sun in Pisces. This

coincides with the end of Amavasya and the commencement of Pratipada. The

weekday that this happens has its own significance. In fact the vaara-adhipati

or the ruler of the day when Pratipada is running at the time of sunrise is

designated lord of the year or varshesha. The strength and disposition of this

lord of the year indicates the nature of events likely to occur during the

year. The Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart for different countries is cast for

the capital of each country.

 

For USA, the chart is for 20th of March 2004, 17:41:17 AM at Washington, DC. The

Ascendant is Leo having retrograde Jupiter posited therein and aspected by both

Saturn and Mars planet. Mars is a yogakaraka here having the lordships of the

fourth and the ninth houses while Saturn has the lordship of the sixth and

seventh houses. Ketu is in the third house Libra. Sun and Moon being the lagna

and twelfth lords respectively are in friendly sign Pisces in the eighth house

along with debilitated Mercury having the second and eleventh lordship. Venus

having the third and tenth lordship is placed in the ninth house Aries along

with Rahu. Tenth house Taurus has the yogakaraka planet Mars having the ninth

and fourth lordship. Six and

seventh lord Saturn is placed in the eleventh house Gemini. As mentioned above,

Jupiter being the eighth and fifth lord is placed in the first house Leo in

retrogression.

 

A complete analysis of the Chaitra Shukla chart is precluded from the scope of

this article. We shall therefore restrict ourselves to the areas that may be

relevant to the present quest. A notable factor of this chart is the degree of

the ascendant. It is 29º41’, virtually the very end of the Leo sign. In about a

minute and half of time the lagna would have changed to Virgo. Ascendant degrees

being extremely close to the rashi-sandhi is indicative of instability,

adversity and turbulent times etc. and may very well symbolize the end of a

tenure in the present context, pointing to a possible change to be expected in

the elections. Presence of retrograde eighth lord in the lagna adds strength to

the hypothesis of forthcoming change.

 

The tenth house representing the government/executive/administration has the

fourth lord Mars posited therein. As we are aware the fourth house in this

chart is representing the opposition, which would be the Democratic Party in

the present context, as President George Bush holding office at the inception

of the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada comes from the Republican Party. This placement

in itself goes on to indicate that the opposition (Democrats) is likely to gain

during the current year.

 

Yet another vital indication of a change of guard in the executive/government/

administration is forthcoming from the planetary configuration vis-à-vis the

tenth lord Venus. As mentioned above, the tenth lord Venus is placed in the

ninth house Aries. Please note that it has gone to the twelfth position from

the tenth house, not a positive with respect to the tenth house again pointing

towards possible change of guard at the helm. Venus is conjunct Rahu in Aries.

Rahu is a planet of illusion, change, surprise etc. Conjunction of Rahu with

the tenth lord further confirms the view that a change is more likely than not.

Moving on dispositor of tenth lord Venus is Mars having the fourth lordship. Not

a comforting arrangement by any standard for the incumbent in office.

 

Venus Rahu conjunction can be viewed in a whole different perspective too. Rahu

is said to represent all that is foreign. Therefore the tenth lord Venus can be

considered to be under foreign influence or associated with foreigners. To the

awareness of the author while George Bush may not meet this consideration, John

Kerry does since he is married to a lady of German origin.

 

In the navamsa chart the lagna is Sagittarius. Sagittarius or Dhanu, is also

known as ko-dand rashi signifying imminent fall. Tenth house of navamsa has

Rahu in Virgo indicating yet again of imminent confusion relating to the tenth

house affairs. Jupiter is afflicted by Rahu and conjoint eighth lord Moon. In

contrast Saturn here is conjoined tenth lord Mercury. In the dasamsa chart the

lagna is Taurus, its lord Venus being posited in the seventh house Scorpio

bringing in the discomfort. The tenth house here has Mars, the seventh lord of

opponent, as the occupant posited in Aquarius. Saturn is exalted here while

Jupiter is debilitated. Please make a note of the relative strength of Saturn

vis-à-vis Jupiter. The next paragraph will bring out the significance.

 

The Republican Party represents the conservative interests in the country, while

the Democratic Party is representative of the liberal part of the populace.

Therefore it is an obvious conclusion that in the horoscope chart Jupiter

represents the Republicans, while Saturn represents the Democrats.

Interestingly the symbol of the Republicans and Democrats is elephant and

donkey respectively. What a coincidence! With no disrespect Elephant signifies

a large size fitting in well with Jupiter, while Donkey signifies hard work

falling in the ambit of Saturn. Now observe both Saturn and Jupiter in the

Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart. While Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by

Mars, Saturn is free from affliction and aspects both the lagna and lagna lord

Sun indicating influence. This further confirmed in the Chaitra Shukla

Pratipada chart for 2005 too.

 

 

 

OUTCOME

 

 

The political situation is as fluid as can be and is likely to reach melting

points in the coming weeks during the run up to the elections. As the election

date approaches the scenario is likely to get murkier and murkier. The apparent

strength of both the candidates will be tested and will alternate as if in

waxing/waning cycle. The outcome of the election is expected to be fairly close

indeed.

 

In the opinion of the author the possibility of change appears to be higher

vis-à-vis status quo being maintained. The control of the White house is likely

to pass on to the Democrats. Perhaps John Kerry will be the next President of

USA.

 

 

 

ANSHUMALEE SOOD

Published VEDIC ASTROLOGY September October 2004

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The article attached "US Presidential Election 2004- change ahead" seems logical

to me. But written in the perspective of Shukla-Pratipad chat. Other tools of

mundane forecasting are lacking there, viz. chart of USA, Solar Return Chart

and obviously charts of presidential cadidates. Relying on a single specific

element of vedic astrology may cause misleading results, as we experienced

during Cricket World Cup and Indian Election 2004.

 

Intuitively I also think, some surprising results may be expected during transit

of Sun into Libra (approx. 17 Oct 2004 to 16 Nov 2004) when the on going

cyclical Kal-Amrit Yoga would also come to end. Till that situation may remain

vague as the nodes produce confusion and enigmatic scenario.

 

Interestingly G.W.Bush has also Kal-Amrit Yoga in his natal chart. The persons

having such yogas (KAY or KSY) when come to power, their

country/state/organization probabily confronted war, fighting, undesirable

rivalry, partition, etc.

 

Regards

M.Imran

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunil John <jjnet2000_in > wrote:

For those who understand this system, & interested in US elections it goes with

my earlier assumption that Bush would lose.

In the life of Bush did a significant event occur on or around 7th of July 2003,

if some people who follow his life and remember this pls let me know on the list

or privately. Also is their any site which gives event dates of Bush or any

other famous personalities, it shall be most helpful.

Love & Light

 

SJSushmita S <sushmita34 > wrote:

Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:03:22 -0700 (PDT)Sushmita S Fwd: US

Electionjjnet2000_in

SJ, do read this,

 

Sush

"Vedic AstrologySushmita S" US ElectionMon, 20 Sep

2004 09:40:05 +0530

 

Application of Chaitra Shukla Pratipada

US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS 2004

 

… … … change ahead !!!

 

 

 

BACKGROUND

 

The US Presidential Election 2004 is likely to be a close affair though it may

not match the suspense, hype and controversy that surrounded the election in

2000. And what an election the 2000 affair turned out to be indeed! And let me

refresh for new readers that it did not come as a surprise, at least to the

readers of Vedic Astrology. Based on the foresight accorded to us by the divine

science of Vedic Astrology and by the blessings of Almighty this author not only

was able to pinpoint the outcome but also the circumstances and drama that

unfolded during the run up. This was covered at length in earlier issues of

Vedic Astrology namely July-August and September-October 2000 issues. These

articles can also be viewed at www.vedicastro.com.

 

There are views supporting both candidates and each side is with considerable

merit too. In fact this very publication has carried articles from authors

belonging to both camps. While the natal particulars for George Bush Jr. are

fairly clear, there have been a number of alternate birth details for Democrat

challenger John Kerry ostensibly. This adds further controversy to the

situation setting the stage for varied views.

 

The election to presidency after all definitely extends beyond the limitations

of an individual horoscope. And the presidency of the United States of America,

the world’s most powerful country, would have a definite impact extending well

beyond its national boundaries on to every nook and corner of the globe.

Therefore the likely shape of events in the near and distant future must

provide us with definite clues with regard to the next occupant of the White

House based on the policy stance and available plan of governance.

 

In order to circumvent the controversy a humble attempt is being made to try and

decipher the situation using Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart. It may be pertinent

to mention that using this methodology on the just concluded Indian Elections

worked surprisingly well. The article is in the May-June 2004 issue of this

journal, and also at www.vedicastro.com .

 

PERSPECTIVE

 

 

Chaitra Shukla Pratipada Chart for USA

 

 

To initiate our quest let us go on to examine the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada Chart

for the United States confining ourselves to the issue at hand. For those of you

who may not be familiar the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada Chart it is perhaps

desirable to provide a very brief introduction to the same. In fact this is one

of the most potent tools that goes a long way to establish the significance of

Vedic Astrology and perhaps its authenticity as well. The Chaitra Shukla

Pratipada chart is also referred to as the Hindu New Year; it has a Luni-Solar

basis and is the most popular and time-tested method of mundane

predictions for the forthcoming year.

 

The year commences when the Moon has just passed the Sun in Pisces. This

coincides with the end of Amavasya and the commencement of Pratipada. The

weekday that this happens has its own significance. In fact the vaara-adhipati

or the ruler of the day when Pratipada is running at the time of sunrise is

designated lord of the year or varshesha. The strength and disposition of this

lord of the year indicates the nature of events likely to occur during the

year. The Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart for different countries is cast for

the capital of each country.

 

For USA, the chart is for 20th of March 2004, 17:41:17 AM at Washington, DC. The

Ascendant is Leo having retrograde Jupiter posited therein and aspected by both

Saturn and Mars planet. Mars is a yogakaraka here having the lordships of the

fourth and the ninth houses while Saturn has the lordship of the sixth and

seventh houses. Ketu is in the third house Libra. Sun and Moon being the lagna

and twelfth lords respectively are in friendly sign Pisces in the eighth house

along with debilitated Mercury having the second and eleventh lordship. Venus

having the third and tenth lordship is placed in the ninth house Aries along

with Rahu. Tenth house Taurus has the yogakaraka planet Mars having the ninth

and fourth lordship. Six and

seventh lord Saturn is placed in the eleventh house Gemini. As mentioned above,

Jupiter being the eighth and fifth lord is placed in the first house Leo in

retrogression.

 

A complete analysis of the Chaitra Shukla chart is precluded from the scope of

this article. We shall therefore restrict ourselves to the areas that may be

relevant to the present quest. A notable factor of this chart is the degree of

the ascendant. It is 29º41’, virtually the very end of the Leo sign. In about a

minute and half of time the lagna would have changed to Virgo. Ascendant degrees

being extremely close to the rashi-sandhi is indicative of instability,

adversity and turbulent times etc. and may very well symbolize the end of a

tenure in the present context, pointing to a possible change to be expected in

the elections. Presence of retrograde eighth lord in the lagna adds strength to

the hypothesis of forthcoming change.

 

The tenth house representing the government/executive/administration has the

fourth lord Mars posited therein. As we are aware the fourth house in this

chart is representing the opposition, which would be the Democratic Party in

the present context, as President George Bush holding office at the inception

of the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada comes from the Republican Party. This placement

in itself goes on to indicate that the opposition (Democrats) is likely to gain

during the current year.

 

Yet another vital indication of a change of guard in the executive/government/

administration is forthcoming from the planetary configuration vis-à-vis the

tenth lord Venus. As mentioned above, the tenth lord Venus is placed in the

ninth house Aries. Please note that it has gone to the twelfth position from

the tenth house, not a positive with respect to the tenth house again pointing

towards possible change of guard at the helm. Venus is conjunct Rahu in Aries.

Rahu is a planet of illusion, change, surprise etc. Conjunction of Rahu with

the tenth lord further confirms the view that a change is more likely than not.

Moving on dispositor of tenth lord Venus is Mars having the fourth lordship. Not

a comforting arrangement by any standard for the incumbent in office.

 

Venus Rahu conjunction can be viewed in a whole different perspective too. Rahu

is said to represent all that is foreign. Therefore the tenth lord Venus can be

considered to be under foreign influence or associated with foreigners. To the

awareness of the author while George Bush may not meet this consideration, John

Kerry does since he is married to a lady of German origin.

 

In the navamsa chart the lagna is Sagittarius. Sagittarius or Dhanu, is also

known as ko-dand rashi signifying imminent fall. Tenth house of navamsa has

Rahu in Virgo indicating yet again of imminent confusion relating to the tenth

house affairs. Jupiter is afflicted by Rahu and conjoint eighth lord Moon. In

contrast Saturn here is conjoined tenth lord Mercury. In the dasamsa chart the

lagna is Taurus, its lord Venus being posited in the seventh house Scorpio

bringing in the discomfort. The tenth house here has Mars, the seventh lord of

opponent, as the occupant posited in Aquarius. Saturn is exalted here while

Jupiter is debilitated. Please make a note of the relative strength of Saturn

vis-à-vis Jupiter. The next paragraph will bring out the significance.

 

The Republican Party represents the conservative interests in the country, while

the Democratic Party is representative of the liberal part of the populace.

Therefore it is an obvious conclusion that in the horoscope chart Jupiter

represents the Republicans, while Saturn represents the Democrats.

Interestingly the symbol of the Republicans and Democrats is elephant and

donkey respectively. What a coincidence! With no disrespect Elephant signifies

a large size fitting in well with Jupiter, while Donkey signifies hard work

falling in the ambit of Saturn. Now observe both Saturn and Jupiter in the

Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart. While Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by

Mars, Saturn is free from affliction and aspects both the lagna and lagna lord

Sun indicating influence. This further confirmed in the Chaitra Shukla

Pratipada chart for 2005 too.

 

 

 

OUTCOME

 

 

The political situation is as fluid as can be and is likely to reach melting

points in the coming weeks during the run up to the elections. As the election

date approaches the scenario is likely to get murkier and murkier. The apparent

strength of both the candidates will be tested and will alternate as if in

waxing/waning cycle. The outcome of the election is expected to be fairly close

indeed.

 

In the opinion of the author the possibility of change appears to be higher

vis-à-vis status quo being maintained. The control of the White house is likely

to pass on to the Democrats. Perhaps John Kerry will be the next President of

USA.

 

 

 

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Dear Imran Bhai,

Thanks for ur mail. As you may have understood the article is by not

me and by a gentleman called Anshumalee Sood. I was under the

impression that maybe you thought the article was by me and hence

your observations towards me so forgive me if i am wrong.

 

I agree to the point totally that using only one technique is or

rather can be disadvantageous.

Two days back i was seeing George's chart and if i remember well even

after using Sudarshana Chakra Progression technique as propounded by

great astrologer Mr.Finn Wandhahl, we get current year to be a nice

year for Mr Bush as Kal Amrita yoga is coming for this year btu

sincce I have never understood Kal Sarpa or Amrita yogas properly i

was confused.

Although on the same day i used another technique an extended

variation of the famous 64th Nav technique which worked well on

Sharad Pawar losing the BCCI elections with DRAMATIC FILMI STORY to

it and it showed same symptoms on chart of the President Bush so i am

getting more and more convinced that Bush would lose in a REVERSAL of

Fortunes. But then my observation is limited to that of an ameatuer

student.

 

one thing is clear as everyone would acknowledge astrologically this

seems to be a fight to the finish among the two and the world is the

audience.

 

best

 

SJ

 

 

vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran

<astroimran> wrote:

> Dear Sunil,

>

> The article attached "US Presidential Election 2004- change ahead"

seems logical to me. But written in the perspective of Shukla-

Pratipad chat. Other tools of mundane forecasting are lacking there,

viz. chart of USA, Solar Return Chart and obviously charts of

presidential cadidates. Relying on a single specific element of vedic

astrology may cause misleading results, as we experienced during

Cricket World Cup and Indian Election 2004.

>

> Intuitively I also think, some surprising results may be expected

during transit of Sun into Libra (approx. 17 Oct 2004 to 16 Nov 2004)

when the on going cyclical Kal-Amrit Yoga would also come to end.

Till that situation may remain vague as the nodes produce confusion

and enigmatic scenario.

>

> Interestingly G.W.Bush has also Kal-Amrit Yoga in his natal chart.

The persons having such yogas (KAY or KSY) when come to power, their

country/state/organization probabily confronted war, fighting,

undesirable rivalry, partition, etc.

>

> Regards

> M.Imran

>

>

>

>

Sunil John <jjnet2000_in> wrote:

> For those who understand this system, & interested in US elections

it goes with my earlier assumption that Bush would lose.

> In the life of Bush did a significant event occur on or around 7th

of July 2003, if some people who follow his life and remember this

pls let me know on the list or privately. Also is their any site

which gives event dates of Bush or any other famous personalities, it

shall be most helpful.

> Love & Light

>

> SJ

>

> Sushmita S <sushmita34> wrote:

> Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:03:22 -0700 (PDT)

> Sushmita S

> Fwd: US Election

> jjnet2000_in

>

> SJ, do read this,

>

> Sush

>

>

> "Vedic Astrology"

> "Sushmita S"

> US Election

> Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:40:05 +0530

>

>

> Application of Chaitra Shukla Pratipada

> US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS 2004

>

>

> … … … change ahead !!!

>

BACKGROUND

>

>

>

> The US Presidential Election 2004 is likely to be a close affair

though it may not match the suspense, hype and controversy that

surrounded the election in 2000. And what an election the 2000 affair

turned out to be indeed! And let me refresh for new readers that it

did not come as a surprise, at least to the readers of Vedic

Astrology. Based on the foresight accorded to us by the divine

science of Vedic Astrology and by the blessings of Almighty this

author not only was able to pinpoint the outcome but also the

circumstances and drama that unfolded during the run up. This was

covered at length in earlier issues of Vedic Astrology namely July-

August and September-October 2000 issues. These articles can also be

viewed at www.vedicastro.com.

>

>

>

> There are views supporting both candidates and each side is with

considerable merit too. In fact this very publication has carried

articles from authors belonging to both camps. While the natal

particulars for George Bush Jr. are fairly clear, there have been a

number of alternate birth details for Democrat challenger John Kerry

ostensibly. This adds further controversy to the situation setting

the stage for varied views.

>

>

>

> The election to presidency after all definitely extends beyond the

limitations of an individual horoscope. And the presidency of the

United States of America, the world's most powerful country, would

have a definite impact extending well beyond its national boundaries

on to every nook and corner of the globe. Therefore the likely shape

of events in the near and distant future must provide us with

definite clues with regard to the next occupant of the White House

based on the policy stance and available plan of governance.

>

>

>

> In order to circumvent the controversy a humble attempt is being

made to try and decipher the situation using Chaitra Shukla Pratipada

chart. It may be pertinent to mention that using this methodology on

the just concluded Indian Elections worked surprisingly well. The

article is in the May-June 2004 issue of this journal, and also at

www.vedicastro.com .

>

>

>

> PERSPECTIVE

>

>

>

>

>

> Chaitra Shukla Pratipada Chart for USA

>

>

>

>

>

> To initiate our quest let us go on to examine the Chaitra Shukla

Pratipada Chart for the United States confining ourselves to the

issue at hand. For those of you who may not be familiar the Chaitra

Shukla Pratipada Chart it is perhaps desirable to provide a very

brief introduction to the same. In fact this is one of the most

potent tools that goes a long way to establish the significance of

Vedic Astrology and perhaps its authenticity as well. The Chaitra

Shukla Pratipada chart is also referred to as the Hindu New Year; it

has a Luni-Solar basis and is the most popular and time-tested method

of mundane predictions for the forthcoming year.

>

>

>

> The year commences when the Moon has just passed the Sun in Pisces.

This coincides with the end of Amavasya and the commencement of

Pratipada. The weekday that this happens has its own significance. In

fact the vaara-adhipati or the ruler of the day when Pratipada is

running at the time of sunrise is designated lord of the year or

varshesha. The strength and disposition of this lord of the year

indicates the nature of events likely to occur during the year. The

Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart for different countries is cast for

the capital of each country.

>

>

>

> For USA, the chart is for 20th of March 2004, 17:41:17 AM at

Washington, DC. The Ascendant is Leo having retrograde Jupiter

posited therein and aspected by both Saturn and Mars planet. Mars is

a yogakaraka here having the lordships of the fourth and the ninth

houses while Saturn has the lordship of the sixth and seventh houses.

Ketu is in the third house Libra. Sun and Moon being the lagna and

twelfth lords respectively are in friendly sign Pisces in the eighth

house along with debilitated Mercury having the second and eleventh

lordship. Venus having the third and tenth lordship is placed in the

ninth house Aries along with Rahu. Tenth house Taurus has the

yogakaraka planet Mars having the ninth and fourth lordship. Six and

seventh lord Saturn is placed in the eleventh house Gemini. As

mentioned above, Jupiter being the eighth and fifth lord is placed in

the first house Leo in retrogression.

>

>

>

> A complete analysis of the Chaitra Shukla chart is precluded from

the scope of this article. We shall therefore restrict ourselves to

the areas that may be relevant to the present quest. A notable factor

of this chart is the degree of the ascendant. It is 29º41', virtually

the very end of the Leo sign. In about a minute and half of time the

lagna would have changed to Virgo. Ascendant degrees being extremely

close to the rashi-sandhi is indicative of instability, adversity and

turbulent times etc. and may very well symbolize the end of a tenure

in the present context, pointing to a possible change to be expected

in the elections. Presence of retrograde eighth lord in the lagna

adds strength to the hypothesis of forthcoming change.

>

>

>

> The tenth house representing the

government/executive/administration has the fourth lord Mars posited

therein. As we are aware the fourth house in this chart is

representing the opposition, which would be the Democratic Party in

the present context, as President George Bush holding office at the

inception of the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada comes from the Republican

Party. This placement in itself goes on to indicate that the

opposition (Democrats) is likely to gain during the current year.

>

>

>

> Yet another vital indication of a change of guard in the

executive/government/ administration is forthcoming from the

planetary configuration vis-à-vis the tenth lord Venus. As mentioned

above, the tenth lord Venus is placed in the ninth house Aries.

Please note that it has gone to the twelfth position from the tenth

house, not a positive with respect to the tenth house again pointing

towards possible change of guard at the helm. Venus is conjunct Rahu

in Aries. Rahu is a planet of illusion, change, surprise etc.

Conjunction of Rahu with the tenth lord further confirms the view

that a change is more likely than not. Moving on dispositor of tenth

lord Venus is Mars having the fourth lordship. Not a comforting

arrangement by any standard for the incumbent in office.

>

>

>

> Venus Rahu conjunction can be viewed in a whole different

perspective too. Rahu is said to represent all that is foreign.

Therefore the tenth lord Venus can be considered to be under foreign

influence or associated with foreigners. To the awareness of the

author while George Bush may not meet this consideration, John Kerry

does since he is married to a lady of German origin.

>

>

>

> In the navamsa chart the lagna is Sagittarius. Sagittarius or

Dhanu, is also known as ko-dand rashi signifying imminent fall. Tenth

house of navamsa has Rahu in Virgo indicating yet again of imminent

confusion relating to the tenth house affairs. Jupiter is afflicted

by Rahu and conjoint eighth lord Moon. In contrast Saturn here is

conjoined tenth lord Mercury. In the dasamsa chart the lagna is

Taurus, its lord Venus being posited in the seventh house Scorpio

bringing in the discomfort. The tenth house here has Mars, the

seventh lord of opponent, as the occupant posited in Aquarius. Saturn

is exalted here while Jupiter is debilitated. Please make a note of

the relative strength of Saturn vis-à-vis Jupiter. The next paragraph

will bring out the significance.

>

>

>

> The Republican Party represents the conservative interests in the

country, while the Democratic Party is representative of the liberal

part of the populace. Therefore it is an obvious conclusion that in

the horoscope chart Jupiter represents the Republicans, while Saturn

represents the Democrats. Interestingly the symbol of the Republicans

and Democrats is elephant and donkey respectively. What a

coincidence! With no disrespect Elephant signifies a large size

fitting in well with Jupiter, while Donkey signifies hard work

falling in the ambit of Saturn. Now observe both Saturn and Jupiter

in the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart. While Jupiter is retrograde

and afflicted by Mars, Saturn is free from affliction and aspects

both the lagna and lagna lord Sun indicating influence. This further

confirmed in the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart for 2005 too.

>

OUTCOME

>

>

>

>

>

> The political situation is as fluid as can be and is likely to

reach melting points in the coming weeks during the run up to the

elections. As the election date approaches the scenario is likely to

get murkier and murkier. The apparent strength of both the candidates

will be tested and will alternate as if in waxing/waning cycle. The

outcome of the election is expected to be fairly close indeed.

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>

>

> In the opinion of the author the possibility of change appears to

be higher vis-à-vis status quo being maintained. The control of the

White house is likely to pass on to the Democrats. Perhaps John

Kerry will be the next President of USA.

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil,

As indicated in my earlier post, based on analysis of Bush's chart, I

too agree with the conclusions of Dear Anshu Sood.

Chandrashekhar.

Sunil John wrote:

For those who understand this system, & interested in US

elections it goes with my earlier assumption that Bush would lose.

In the life of Bush did a significant event occur on or around

7th of July 2003, if some people who follow his life and remember this

pls let me know on the list or privately. Also is their any site which

gives event dates of Bush or any other famous personalities, it shall

be most helpful.

Love & Light

 

SJ

Sushmita S <sushmita34 >

wrote:

Date:

Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:03:22 -0700 (PDT)

Sushmita S

Fwd: US Election

jjnet2000_in

SJ, do read this,

 

Sush

 

"Vedic Astrology"

"Sushmita S"

US Election

Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:40:05 +0530

 

Application

of Chaitra Shukla Pratipada

US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS 2004

 

… … … change ahead !!!

 

 

 

BACKGROUND

 

The US Presidential Election 2004 is likely to be a close

affair though it may not match the suspense, hype and controversy that

surrounded the election in 2000. And what an election the 2000 affair

turned out to be indeed! And let me refresh for new readers that it did

not come as a surprise, at least to the readers of Vedic Astrology.

Based on the foresight accorded to us by the divine science of Vedic

Astrology and by the blessings of Almighty this author not only was

able to pinpoint the outcome but also the circumstances and drama that

unfolded during the run up. This was covered at length in earlier

issues of Vedic Astrology namely July-August and September-October 2000

issues. These articles can also be viewed at www.vedicastro.com.

 

There are views supporting both candidates and each side

is with considerable merit too. In fact this very publication has

carried articles from authors belonging to both camps. While the natal

particulars for George Bush Jr. are fairly clear, there have been a

number of alternate birth details for Democrat challenger John Kerry

ostensibly. This adds further controversy to the situation setting the

stage for varied views.

 

The

election to presidency after all definitely extends beyond the

limitations of an individual horoscope. And the presidency of the United

States of America,

the world’s most powerful country, would have a definite impact

extending well beyond its national boundaries on to every nook and

corner of the globe. Therefore the likely shape of events in the near

and distant future must provide us with definite clues with regard to

the next occupant of the White House based on the policy stance and

available plan of governance.

 

In order to circumvent the controversy a humble attempt

is being made to try and decipher the situation using Chaitra Shukla

Pratipada chart. It may be pertinent to mention that using this

methodology on the just concluded Indian Elections worked surprisingly

well. The article is in the May-June 2004 issue of this journal, and

also at www.vedicastro.com .

 

PERSPECTIVE

 

 

Chaitra Shukla Pratipada

Chart for USA

 

 

To

initiate our quest let us go on to examine the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada

Chart for the United States confining ourselves to the issue at hand. For those of

you who may not be familiar the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada Chart it is

perhaps desirable to provide a very brief introduction to the same. In

fact this is one of the most potent tools that goes a long way to

establish the significance of Vedic Astrology and perhaps its

authenticity as well. The Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart is also

referred to as the Hindu New Year; it has a Luni-Solar basis and is the

most popular and time-tested method of mundane predictions for the

forthcoming year.

 

The

year commences when the Moon has just passed the Sun in Pisces. This

coincides with the end of Amavasya and the commencement of Pratipada.

The weekday that this happens has its own significance. In fact the

vaara-adhipati or the ruler of the day when Pratipada is

running at the time of sunrise is designated lord of the year or varshesha. The

strength and disposition of this lord of

the year indicates the nature of events likely to occur during the

year. The Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart for different countries is

cast for the capital of each country.

 

For USA,

the chart is for 20th of March 2004, 17:41:17 AM at Washington,

DC. The Ascendant is Leo

having retrograde Jupiter posited therein and aspected by both Saturn

and Mars planet. Mars is a yogakaraka here having the lordships of the

fourth and the ninth houses while Saturn has the lordship of the sixth

and seventh houses. Ketu is in the third house Libra. Sun and Moon

being the lagna and twelfth lords respectively are in friendly sign

Pisces in the eighth house along with debilitated Mercury having the

second and eleventh lordship. Venus having the third and tenth lordship

is placed in the ninth house Aries along with Rahu. Tenth house Taurus

has the yogakaraka planet Mars having the ninth and fourth lordship.

Six and seventh lord Saturn is placed in the eleventh house Gemini. As

mentioned above, Jupiter being the eighth and fifth lord is placed in

the first house Leo in retrogression.

 

A complete analysis of the Chaitra Shukla chart is

precluded from the scope of this article. We shall therefore restrict

ourselves to the areas that may be relevant to the present quest. A

notable factor of this chart is the degree of the ascendant. It is 29º41’,

virtually the very end of the Leo sign. In about

a minute and half of time the lagna would have changed to Virgo.

Ascendant degrees being extremely close to the rashi-sandhi is

indicative of instability, adversity and turbulent times

etc. and may very well symbolize the end of a tenure in the present

context, pointing to a possible change to be expected in the elections.

Presence of retrograde eighth lord in the lagna adds strength to the

hypothesis of forthcoming change.

 

The tenth house representing the government/executive/administration has the

fourth lord Mars posited

therein. As we are aware the fourth house in this chart is representing

the opposition, which would be the Democratic Party in the present

context, as President George Bush holding office at the inception of

the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada comes from the Republican Party. This

placement in itself goes on to indicate that the opposition (Democrats)

is likely to gain during the current year.

 

Yet

another vital indication of a change of guard in the

executive/government/ administration is forthcoming from the planetary

configuration vis-à-vis the tenth lord Venus. As mentioned above, the

tenth lord Venus is placed in the ninth house Aries. Please note that

it has gone to the twelfth position from the tenth house, not a

positive with respect to the tenth house again pointing towards

possible change of guard at the helm. Venus is conjunct Rahu in Aries.

Rahu is a planet of illusion, change, surprise etc. Conjunction of Rahu

with the tenth lord further confirms the view that a change is more

likely than not. Moving on dispositor of tenth lord Venus is Mars

having the fourth lordship. Not a comforting arrangement by any

standard for the incumbent in office.

 

Venus

Rahu conjunction can be viewed in a whole different perspective too.

Rahu is said to represent all that is foreign. Therefore the tenth lord

Venus can be considered to be under foreign influence or associated

with foreigners. To the awareness of the author while George Bush may

not meet this consideration, John Kerry does since he is married to a

lady of German origin.

 

In

the navamsa chart the lagna is Sagittarius. Sagittarius or Dhanu,

is also known as ko-dand rashi signifying imminent

fall. Tenth house of navamsa has Rahu in Virgo indicating yet again of

imminent confusion relating to the tenth house affairs. Jupiter is

afflicted by Rahu and conjoint eighth lord Moon. In contrast Saturn

here is conjoined tenth lord Mercury. In the dasamsa chart the lagna is

Taurus, its lord Venus being posited in the seventh house Scorpio

bringing in the discomfort. The tenth house here has Mars, the seventh

lord of opponent, as the occupant posited in Aquarius. Saturn is

exalted here while Jupiter is debilitated. Please make a note of the

relative strength of Saturn vis-à-vis Jupiter. The next paragraph will

bring out the significance.

 

The

Republican Party represents the conservative interests in the country,

while the Democratic Party is representative of the liberal part of the

populace. Therefore it is an obvious conclusion that in the horoscope

chart Jupiter represents the Republicans, while Saturn represents the

Democrats. Interestingly the symbol of the Republicans and Democrats is

elephant and donkey respectively. What a coincidence! With no

disrespect Elephant signifies a large size fitting in well with

Jupiter, while Donkey signifies hard work falling in the ambit of

Saturn. Now observe both Saturn and Jupiter in the Chaitra Shukla

Pratipada chart. While Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by Mars,

Saturn is free from affliction and aspects both the lagna and lagna

lord Sun indicating influence. This further confirmed in the Chaitra

Shukla Pratipada chart for 2005 too.

 

 

 

OUTCOME

 

 

The political situation is as fluid as can be and is

likely to reach melting points in the coming weeks during the run up to

the elections. As the election date approaches the scenario is likely

to get murkier and murkier. The apparent strength of both the

candidates will be tested and will alternate as if in waxing/waning

cycle. The outcome of the election is expected to be fairly close

indeed.

 

In the opinion of the author the possibility of change

appears to be higher vis-à-vis status quo being

maintained. The control of the White house is likely to pass on to the

Democrats. Perhaps John Kerry will be the next

President of USA.

 

 

 

ANSHUMALEE SOOD

Published VEDIC

ASTROLOGY September October 2004

 

 

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