Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Om Gurave Namah Namaste Chandrasekharji, Thanks for your reply. As already stated, I have taken the details from the exhaustive navagraha pooja vidhaanam that precedes Satyanarayana Vratha Kalpam. Last night, around 3 am, I had woken up with a start from sleep, with a definite feeling that the nakshatra of Rahu, as given under, is wrong. I suppose some internal thought process was going on even while I was asleep. When Krishna paksha of bhadrapada maasa runs, sun would be in Kanya and since we are talking of Krishna chaturdasi, I think moon can only be in kanya (Chitta nakshatra) and not in Libra or Scorpio. This position of moon would also be in exact opposition to that of Ketu, as given in the birth details. Chandrasekharji, could it be that the traditional graphic representation of Kanya as a girl with a pot/pitcher, be indicative of Vishnu’s Mohini Avatar and the Amrita bhaanda? Perhaps, this would explain the exaltation of Mercury, as a discerning & intelligent planet in Hasta Nakshatra, ruled by moon indicating Narayana, a woman as well as amrita. And, all this fits in so beautifully with Rahu’s birth in Mar’s nakshatra and Ketu’s birth in Mercury’s nakshatra! Doesn’t it? Regards, Lakshmi Rahu: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, bhaadrapada-maase, krishnapakshe, chaturdasyaam, bhaanu vaasare, visakhaa nakshatrajaatham Ketu: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, chaitra maase, krishnapakshe, chaturdasyaam, indu vaasare, revathi nakshatrajaatham Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Lakshmi,An excellent post and meticulous as always. May I know the source?Regards,Chandrashekhar.lakshmi ramesh wrote: Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ajit, The birth details of the planets are as under: Sun: Prabhava samvatsare, maagha-maase, suklapakshe, saptamyaam, Bhaanuvaasare, Ashwini nakshatrajaatham Moon: Saumya samvatsare, kaartika-maase, suklapakshe, pornamaasyaam-induvaasare, krittikaa nakshatrajaatham Mars: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, aashaadha-maase, suklapakshe, dasamyaam, bhoumavaasare, anuuraadhaa nakshatrajaatham Mercury: Angirasa naama samvatsare, maargasirsha-maase, suklapakshe, saptamyaam, saumyavaasare, poorvabhaadra nakshatrajaatham Jupiter: Angirasa naama samvatsare, vaisakha-maase, suklapakshe, ekaadasyaam, guruvaasare, uttaraa nakshatrajaatham Venus: Paarthiva samvatsare, sraavana-maase, suklapakshe, ashtamyaam, bhrigu vaasare, swathi nakshatrajaatham Saturn: Vibhava samvatsare, pausha-maase, suklapakshe, navamyaam, sthira vaasare, bharani nakshatrajaatham Rahu: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, bhaadrapada-maase, krishnapakshe, chaturdasyaam, bhaanu vaasare, visakhaa nakshatrajaatham Ketu: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, chaitra maase, krishnapakshe, chaturdasyaam, indu vaasare, revathi nakshatrajaatham Hope you find the information useful. Regards, LakshmiAjit Krishnan <ajit (AT) mudgala (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Lakshmi, I’m interested in the birth data for the grahas. Can you please let me know the source, and if you have the data for the other grahas as well? Thanks, ajit lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ] Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:56 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Exch: Satyanarayana Vrath to P.S.Ramanarayanan & Sunil Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ramnarayan ji and Sunil ji, I am sorry for butting in, but I just couldnt resist it! Just a few of my random thoughts on why Saturn could rule Pournami! Sun was born on Magha shukla Saptami (in Prabhava samvatsara, on Sunday, in Aswini Nakshatra), and Moon was born on Kaartika pournima (in Saumya Samvatsara, on Monday, in Krittika nakshatra). Coincidentally both these thithis are ruled by Saturn. Saturn is tamoguni, and here I am reminded of another celebrated tamoguni, Lord Shiva, who is adhi devata of Sun and his vaamabhaaga (left half) Parvati, the adhidevata of moon. Together they represent an eternal unvarying rhythm that is reflected in the implacable passage of Time, or Kaala, which is the Truth. Both the luminaries, as representatives of Kaala, here symbolize purity, integrity ad inwardness, and I feel, moons beneficence that begins after sukla saptami a ndendswithkrishnasaptamihasitsbasishere.Perhaps,asthefullyenlightenedanddetachedkarmasaakshis,the luminaries also aid Saturn, the equally detached Karma kaaraka in proper deliverance of justice, like they did in the case of Rahu and ketu. Also, going by the above and the fact that Mars gets exalted in Saturns sign, it looks as though Saturn worships Prakasa, which is the common denominator among the three planets, viz., Sun, Moon and Mars! Though he himself signifies darkness and is exalted in a sign whose colour is black, his true allegiance is to Light always. Perhaps thats why it is said that when the AK is placed in 11th house, the native can become a good jyotisha, as the AK is looking at the 5th house (house of light-Jyoti-Leo)! Gurudeva Sanjayji is the foremost example that comes to ones mind here. Another fact that seemed to strengthen the above notion is the tithi parivartana between Sun and Saturn, as Saturn himself was born on Navami, the tithi ruled by Sun and in Bharani nakshatra. Isnt it interesting to note that while both the luminaries are exalted in their birth nakshatras, Saturn is debilitated in his, and more than anything else, this alone can illustrate the differences in the basic functions of these planets. Flanked on both sides by the luminaries, perhaps Saturn defines that finite yet indefinite moment of darkness between the sunset and the moonrise, a darkness that can stretch across innumerable birth cycles, between the genesis of a soul and its liberation. Please pardon the perhapss that are liberally sprinkled through my mail. They just go to show how nascent and unthought-out my ideas are! Regards, Lakshmi Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Namaste Ajit, The vratha kalpam book is published by Gollapudi Veeraswami Sons, Sri Seethaaraama Book Depot, Kotagummam, Rajahmundry-533101. Regards, Lakshmi Ajit Krishnan <ajit (AT) mudgala (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Lakshmi, > The source is Satyanarayana vratha katha, so perhaps referring to Skandha purana and reva khanda would be fruitful. I checked, and did not find it here. > As already stated, I have taken the details from the exhaustive navagraha pooja vidhaanam that precedes Satyanarayana Vratha Kalpam This makes much more sense. Perhaps you could share the details of the book which contains this particular exhaustive navagraha puja. ajit lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ] Friday, October 01, 2004 8:28 PMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Birth details of planets-To Chandrasekharji Om Gurave Namah Namaste Chandrasekharji, Thanks for your reply. As already stated, I have taken the details from the exhaustive navagraha pooja vidhaanam that precedes Satyanarayana Vratha Kalpam. Last night, around 3 am, I had woken up with a start from sleep, with a definite feeling that the nakshatra of Rahu, as given under, is wrong. I suppose some internal thought process was going on even while I was asleep. When Krishna paksha of bhadrapada maasa runs, sun would be in Kanya and since we are talking of Krishna chaturdasi, I think moon can only be in kanya (Chitta nakshatra) and not in Libra or Scorpio. This position of moon would also be in exact opposition to that of Ketu, as given in the birth details. Chandrasekharji, could it be that the traditional graphic representation of Kanya as a girl with a pot/pitcher, be indicative of Vishnus Mohini Avatar and the Amrita bhaanda? Perhaps, this would explain the exaltation of Mercury, as a discerning & intelligent planet in Hasta Nakshatra, ruled by moon indicating Narayana, a woman as well as amrita. And, all this fits in so beautifully with Rahus birth in Mars nakshatra and Ketus birth in Mercurys nakshatra! Doesnt it? Regards, Lakshmi Rahu: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, bhaadrapada-maase, krishnapakshe, chaturdasyaam, bhaanu vaasare, visakhaa nakshatrajaatham Ketu: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, chaitra maase, krishnapakshe, chaturdasyaam, indu vaasare, revathi nakshatrajaatham Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Lakshmi,An excellent post and meticulous as always. May I know the source?Regards,Chandrashekhar.lakshmi ramesh wrote: Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ajit, The birth details of the planets are as under: Sun: Prabhava samvatsare, maagha-maase, suklapakshe, saptamyaam, Bhaanuvaasare, Ashwini nakshatrajaatham Moon: Saumya samvatsare, kaartika-maase, suklapakshe, pornamaasyaam-induvaasare, krittikaa nakshatrajaatham Mars: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, aashaadha-maase, suklapakshe, dasamyaam, bhoumavaasare, anuuraadhaa nakshatrajaatham Mercury: Angirasa naama samvatsare, maargasirsha-maase, suklapakshe, saptamyaam, saumyavaasare, poorvabhaadra nakshatrajaatham Jupiter: Angirasa naama samvatsare, vaisakha-maase, suklapakshe, ekaadasyaam, guruvaasare, uttaraa nakshatrajaatham Venus: Paarthiva samvatsare, sraavana-maase, suklapakshe, ashtamyaam, bhrigu vaasare, swathi nakshatrajaatham Saturn: Vibhava samvatsare, pausha-maase, suklapakshe, navamyaam, sthira vaasare, bharani nakshatrajaatham Rahu: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, bhaadrapada-maase, krishnapakshe, chaturdasyaam, bhaanu vaasare, visakhaa nakshatrajaatham Ketu: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, chaitra maase, krishnapakshe, chaturdasyaam, indu vaasare, revathi nakshatrajaatham Hope you find the information useful. Regards, Lakshmi Ajit Krishnan <ajit (AT) mudgala (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Lakshmi, Im interested in the birth data for the grahas. Can you please let me know the source, and if you have the data for the other grahas as well? Thanks, ajit lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ] Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:56 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Exch: Satyanarayana Vrath to P.S.Ramanarayanan & Sunil Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ramnarayan ji and Sunil ji, I am sorry for butting in, but I just couldnt resist it! Just a few of my random thoughts on why Saturn could rule Pournami! Sun was born on Magha shukla Saptami (in Prabhava samvatsara, on Sunday, in Aswini Nakshatra), and Moon was born on Kaartika pournima (in Saumya Samvatsara, on Monday, in Krittika nakshatra). Coincidentally both these thithis are ruled by Saturn. Saturn is tamoguni, and here I am reminded of another celebrated tamoguni, Lord Shiva, who is adhi devata of Sun and his vaamabhaaga (left half) Parvati, the adhidevata of moon. Together they represent an eternal unvarying rhythm that is reflected in the implacable passage of Time, or Kaala, which is the Truth. Both the luminaries, as representatives of Kaala, here symbolize purity, integrity ad inwardness, and I feel, moons beneficence that begins after sukla saptami a ndendswithkrishnasaptamihasitsbasishere.Perhaps,asthefullyenlightenedanddetachedkarmasaakshis,the luminaries also aid Saturn, the equally detached Karma kaaraka in proper deliverance of justice, like they did in the case of Rahu and ketu. Also, going by the above and the fact that Mars gets exalted in Saturns sign, it looks as though Saturn worships Prakasa, which is the common denominator among the three planets, viz., Sun, Moon and Mars! Though he himself signifies darkness and is exalted in a sign whose colour is black, his true allegiance is to Light always. Perhaps thats why it is said that when the AK is placed in 11th house, the native can become a good jyotisha, as the AK is looking at the 5th house (house of light-Jyoti-Leo)! Gurudeva Sanjayji is the foremost example that comes to ones mind here. Another fact that seemed to strengthen the above notion is the tithi parivartana between Sun and Saturn, as Saturn himself was born on Navami, the tithi ruled by Sun and in Bharani nakshatra. Isnt it interesting to note that while both the luminaries are exalted in their birth nakshatras, Saturn is debilitated in his, and more than anything else, this alone can illustrate the differences in the basic functions of these planets. Flanked on both sides by the luminaries, perhaps Saturn defines that finite yet indefinite moment of darkness between the sunset and the moonrise, a darkness that can stretch across innumerable birth cycles, between the genesis of a soul and its liberation. Please pardon the perhapss that are liberally sprinkled through my mail. They just go to show how nascent and unthought-out my ideas are! Regards, Lakshmi Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ........ 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Guest guest Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Dear Lakshmi, Moon would be in Kanya Rasi . Moon is in one Rasi for about 2.5 Tithis. Now the birth time does fit in as this would be as near Grahana time as any and when else should Rahu be born if not at Surya Grahana time, he is called Swarbhanu. Rahu's motion being retrograde, he would be on the verge of engulfing Sun.If you remember some sages have opined that Kanya is owned by Rahu. I always wondered why this deviation from what has been stated by Parashara. This could be the way they are looking at Kanya. Your thoughts about Kanya Rasi appear to be based on sound logic. The swarupa of Kanya does match Mohini with the Amrita Kalasha. Keep it up. Regards, Chandrashekhar. lakshmi ramesh wrote: Om Gurave Namah Namaste Chandrasekharji, Thanks for your reply. As already stated, I have taken the details from the exhaustive navagraha pooja vidhaanam that precedes Satyanarayana Vratha Kalpam. Last night, around 3 am, I had woken up with a start from sleep, with a definite feeling that the nakshatra of Rahu, as given under, is wrong. I suppose some internal thought process was going on even while I was asleep. When Krishna paksha of bhadrapada maasa runs, sun would be in Kanya and since we are talking of Krishna chaturdasi, I think moon can only be in kanya (Chitta nakshatra) and not in Libra or Scorpio. This position of moon would also be in exact opposition to that of Ketu, as given in the birth details. Chandrasekharji, could it be that the traditional graphic representation of Kanya as a girl with a pot/pitcher, be indicative of Vishnu’s Mohini Avatar and the Amrita bhaanda? Perhaps, this would explain the exaltation of Mercury, as a discerning & intelligent planet in Hasta Nakshatra, ruled by moon indicating Narayana, a woman as well as amrita. And, all this fits in so beautifully with Rahu’s birth in Mar’s nakshatra and Ketu’s birth in Mercury’s nakshatra! Doesn’t it? Regards, Lakshmi Rahu: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, bhaadrapada-maase, krishnapakshe, chaturdasyaam, bhaanu vaasare, visakhaa nakshatrajaatham Ketu: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, chaitra maase, krishnapakshe, chaturdasyaam, indu vaasare, revathi nakshatrajaatham Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Lakshmi, An excellent post and meticulous as always. May I know the source? Regards, Chandrashekhar. lakshmi ramesh wrote: Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ajit, The birth details of the planets are as under: Sun: Prabhava samvatsare, maagha-maase, suklapakshe, saptamyaam, Bhaanuvaasare, Ashwini nakshatrajaatham Moon: Saumya samvatsare, kaartika-maase, suklapakshe, pornamaasyaam-induvaasare, krittikaa nakshatrajaatham Mars: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, aashaadha-maase, suklapakshe, dasamyaam, bhoumavaasare, anuuraadhaa nakshatrajaatham Mercury: Angirasa naama samvatsare, maargasirsha-maase, suklapakshe, saptamyaam, saumyavaasare, poorvabhaadra nakshatrajaatham Jupiter: Angirasa naama samvatsare, vaisakha-maase, suklapakshe, ekaadasyaam, guruvaasare, uttaraa nakshatrajaatham Venus: Paarthiva samvatsare, sraavana-maase, suklapakshe, ashtamyaam, bhrigu vaasare, swathi nakshatrajaatham Saturn: Vibhava samvatsare, pausha-maase, suklapakshe, navamyaam, sthira vaasare, bharani nakshatrajaatham Rahu: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, bhaadrapada-maase, krishnapakshe, chaturdasyaam, bhaanu vaasare, visakhaa nakshatrajaatham Ketu: Raakshasa naama samvatsare, chaitra maase, krishnapakshe, chaturdasyaam, indu vaasare, revathi nakshatrajaatham Hope you find the information useful. Regards, Lakshmi Ajit Krishnan <ajit (AT) mudgala (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Lakshmi, I’m interested in the birth data for the grahas. Can you please let me know the source, and if you have the data for the other grahas as well? Thanks, ajit lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ] Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:56 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Exch: Satyanarayana Vrath to P.S.Ramanarayanan & Sunil Om Gurave Namah Namaste Ramnarayan ji and Sunil ji, I am sorry for butting in, but I just couldnt resist it! Just a few of my random thoughts on why Saturn could rule Pournami! Sun was born on Magha shukla Saptami (in Prabhava samvatsara, on Sunday, in Aswini Nakshatra), and Moon was born on Kaartika pournima (in Saumya Samvatsara, on Monday, in Krittika nakshatra). Coincidentally both these thithis are ruled by Saturn. Saturn is tamoguni, and here I am reminded of another celebrated tamoguni, Lord Shiva, who is adhi devata of Sun and his vaamabhaaga (left half) Parvati, the adhidevata of moon. Together they represent an eternal unvarying rhythm that is reflected in the implacable passage of Time, or Kaala, which is the Truth. Both the luminaries, as representatives of Kaala, here symbolize purity, integrity ad inwardness, and I feel, moons beneficence that begins after s uklasaptamiandendswithkrishnasaptamihasitsbasishere.Perhaps,asthefullyenlightenedanddetachedkarmasaakshis,theluminariesalsoaid Saturn, the equally detached Karma kaaraka in proper deliverance of justice, like they did in the case of Rahu and ketu. Also, going by the above and the fact that Mars gets exalted in Saturns sign, it looks as though Saturn worships Prakasa, which is the common denominator among the three planets, viz., Sun, Moon and Mars! Though he himself signifies darkness and is exalted in a sign whose colour is black, his true allegiance is to Light always. Perhaps thats why it is said that when the AK is placed in 11th house, the native can become a good jyotisha, as the AK is looking at the 5th house (house of light-Jyoti-Leo)! Gurudeva Sanjayji is the foremost example that comes to ones mind here. Another fact that seemed to strengthen the above notion is the tithi parivartana between Sun and Saturn, as Saturn himself was born on Navami, the tithi ruled by Sun and in Bharani nakshatra. Isnt it interesting to note that while both the luminaries are exalted in their birth nakshatras, Saturn is debilitated in his, and more than anything else, this alone can illustrate the differences in the basic functions of these planets. Flanked on both sides by the luminaries, perhaps Saturn defines that finite yet indefinite moment of darkness between the sunset and the moonrise, a darkness that can stretch across innumerable birth cycles, between the genesis of a soul and its liberation. Please pardon the perhapss that are liberally sprinkled through my mail. They just go to show how nascent and unthought-out my ideas are! Regards, Lakshmi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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