Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Hi Mukund , Chandrashekharji had predicted the loss of Bush in the coming elections. I came to know this when a month back I had similar thoughts through different angle of his chart & Chandrashekharji cleared my doubt on Marana position of Jup in Bush's chart, I think at the Puri conf he predicted that. Today again I was looking at his chart to recheck my earlier look and was wondering how tough it is to predict as too many complex issues are confusing. Can anyone tell me how to see or find out MC position in Bush's chart and in which Nav would it be. Btw which software can give these positions, any inputs from anyone. Kind regards, SJ Mumbai vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111> wrote: > Dear Chandraji: > > It refreshing to know that you've predicted a loss for Bush in the > upcoming elections (even when the opponent wasn't known). This I > like, you've gone against the popular public opinion, this speaks of > a lot of courage on your part. > > Most Jyotishas are predicting a win for Bush which is a SURE thing. > > I think I was incorrect in thinking that Narasimha was attepting to > gain Jyotish glory by predicting what was already SO obvious. Now, I > see your point, he may have been testing his Tithi Pravesh theory. > > Thanks for writing to me. > > Mukund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Hello Sunil: Bush has already won. To be a winner, a candidate needs 270 delegates. As of today, Kerry has only 237 delegates,i.e. California, Washigton and Oregon on the West Coast; New York, Massachusets, New Hampshire, other little states on the East Coast are already voting for Kerry, but between them there aren't enough delegates to give Kerry a victory. It'll be a miracle if Kerry is able to change the hearts/minds of voters in 3-4 big states like Florida, Ohio, Nevada to amass the additional 33 delegates he needs in his pocket to win. In United States, bigger the state, higher the number of delegates from that state. California has the highest number of delegates and Kerry has CA in his pocket. But in 30 more days, Kerry needs many more states to vote in his favor. It'll be a miracle if he is able to accomplish this. Also, Americans have NEVER elected NEW leadership while it was at war and it is unlikely that the American voters will change the leardership now. Mukund vedic astrology, "suniljohn_2002" <suniljohn_2004@h...> wrote: > Hi Mukund , > Chandrashekharji had predicted the loss of Bush in the coming > elections. I came to know this when a month back I had similar > thoughts through different angle of his chart & Chandrashekharji > cleared my doubt on Marana position of Jup in Bush's chart, I think > at the Puri conf he predicted that. > > Today again I was looking at his chart to recheck my earlier look and > was wondering how tough it is to predict as too many complex issues > are confusing. > > Can anyone tell me how to see or find out MC position in Bush's chart > and in which Nav would it be. Btw which software can give these > positions, any inputs from anyone. > > Kind regards, > > SJ > Mumbai > > vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111> > wrote: > > Dear Chandraji: > > > > It refreshing to know that you've predicted a loss for Bush in the > > upcoming elections (even when the opponent wasn't known). This I > > like, you've gone against the popular public opinion, this speaks > of > > a lot of courage on your part. > > > > Most Jyotishas are predicting a win for Bush which is a SURE thing. > > > > I think I was incorrect in thinking that Narasimha was attepting to > > gain Jyotish glory by predicting what was already SO obvious. Now, > I > > see your point, he may have been testing his Tithi Pravesh theory. > > > > Thanks for writing to me. > > > > Mukund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Hi Mukund, I wasn't aware the results would be so soon, I thought it was Nov 2nd although i was aware that opinion polls were in favor of Bush as per what i heard 2 days back . btw do u hve any software which can give MC of his chart and its Nav position. I would still like to see the Nav transit of Mer on 2nd Nov on his MC. Regards, SJ vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111> wrote: > Hello Sunil: > > Bush has already won. To be a winner, a candidate needs 270 > delegates. As of today, Kerry has only 237 delegates,i.e. California, > Washigton and Oregon on the West Coast; New York, Massachusets, New > Hampshire, other little states on the East Coast are already voting > for Kerry, but between them there aren't enough delegates to give > Kerry a victory. > > It'll be a miracle if Kerry is able to change the hearts/minds of > voters in 3-4 big states like Florida, Ohio, Nevada to amass the > additional 33 delegates he needs in his pocket to win. > > In United States, bigger the state, higher the number of delegates > from that state. California has the highest number of delegates and > Kerry has CA in his pocket. > > But in 30 more days, Kerry needs many more states to vote in his > favor. It'll be a miracle if he is able to accomplish this. Also, > Americans have NEVER elected NEW leadership while it was at war and > it is unlikely that the American voters will change the leardership > now. > > Mukund > > vedic astrology, "suniljohn_2002" > <suniljohn_2004@h...> wrote: > > Hi Mukund , > > Chandrashekharji had predicted the loss of Bush in the coming > > elections. I came to know this when a month back I had similar > > thoughts through different angle of his chart & Chandrashekharji > > cleared my doubt on Marana position of Jup in Bush's chart, I think > > at the Puri conf he predicted that. > > > > Today again I was looking at his chart to recheck my earlier look > and > > was wondering how tough it is to predict as too many complex issues > > are confusing. > > > > Can anyone tell me how to see or find out MC position in Bush's > chart > > and in which Nav would it be. Btw which software can give these > > positions, any inputs from anyone. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > SJ > > Mumbai > > > > vedic astrology, "monmuk111" > <monmuk111> > > wrote: > > > Dear Chandraji: > > > > > > It refreshing to know that you've predicted a loss for Bush in > the > > > upcoming elections (even when the opponent wasn't known). This I > > > like, you've gone against the popular public opinion, this speaks > > of > > > a lot of courage on your part. > > > > > > Most Jyotishas are predicting a win for Bush which is a SURE > thing. > > > > > > I think I was incorrect in thinking that Narasimha was attepting > to > > > gain Jyotish glory by predicting what was already SO obvious. > Now, > > I > > > see your point, he may have been testing his Tithi Pravesh theory. > > > > > > Thanks for writing to me. > > > > > > Mukund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Namaste Mukund, You don't have your facts right. The opinion poll results are too close in several battleground states. For example, you say Bush is sure to win in Ohio. As per the latest Gallup poll conducted during Sept 25-28, Bush leads 49 to 47 in Ohio. That is too close to call and well within the error margin. It does not need a miracle for Kerry to close that gap. Layoffs and outsourcing are a major issue in Ohio. Mind you, the debate on the domestic issues is yet to come. One solid debate performance on jobs can tilt Ohio in Kerry's favor. While the situation is quite clear in some states, the race is too close in several "battleground" states. It is most certainly true that Bush and Kerry still have an almost 50-50 chance. Your assertion that "Bush has already won" is totally misled and misleading. The race is wide open. One word as the admin of this list: Any astrologers who want to predict the result of the presidential election should feel free to do so. Do not let Mukund's unfair criticism influence your thinking. Even when there is a clear favorite, I always welcome predictions here. The existence of a clear favorite does not undermine the credibility of a prediction that is accompanied by astrological reasoning. Moreover, we do not have a clear favorite in this 50-50 race. Mukund is not right in saying that "Bush has already won" and please ignore him. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha PS: After reading more of the media reaction tonight, I want to concede that my prediction that Bush will come out with a little bit of advantage in this close debate is wrong. It was Kerry who had a little bit of advatange. However, I think my broader prediction that it will be an evenly contested debate is correct, as most pundits agree that neither hit a "home run". PPS: My last prediction was only about yesterday's debate. It was not about the final election outcome. I am still grappling with all the contradictory influences. I have not yet made a prediction on who will win. I said in July when Bush's numbers were down that Bush would rebound from September first week, as Saturn and Jupiter were moving from 10th and 12th to 11th and 1st respectively from his natal Moon. That did happen and Bush had a rebound. However, that was also a limited prediction and I have not yet predicted the final outcome. > Hello Sunil: > > Bush has already won. To be a winner, a candidate needs 270 > delegates. As of today, Kerry has only 237 delegates,i.e. California, > Washigton and Oregon on the West Coast; New York, Massachusets, New > Hampshire, other little states on the East Coast are already voting > for Kerry, but between them there aren't enough delegates to give > Kerry a victory. > > It'll be a miracle if Kerry is able to change the hearts/minds of > voters in 3-4 big states like Florida, Ohio, Nevada to amass the > additional 33 delegates he needs in his pocket to win. > > In United States, bigger the state, higher the number of delegates > from that state. California has the highest number of delegates and > Kerry has CA in his pocket. > > But in 30 more days, Kerry needs many more states to vote in his > favor. It'll be a miracle if he is able to accomplish this. Also, > Americans have NEVER elected NEW leadership while it was at war and > it is unlikely that the American voters will change the leardership > now. > > Mukund > > vedic astrology, "suniljohn_2002" > <suniljohn_2004@h...> wrote: > > Hi Mukund , > > Chandrashekharji had predicted the loss of Bush in the coming > > elections. I came to know this when a month back I had similar > > thoughts through different angle of his chart & Chandrashekharji > > cleared my doubt on Marana position of Jup in Bush's chart, I think > > at the Puri conf he predicted that. > > > > Today again I was looking at his chart to recheck my earlier look > and > > was wondering how tough it is to predict as too many complex issues > > are confusing. > > > > Can anyone tell me how to see or find out MC position in Bush's > chart > > and in which Nav would it be. Btw which software can give these > > positions, any inputs from anyone. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > SJ > > Mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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