Presidential Debate Prediction--To Mukund

[Guest guest]

Dear Mukund,

I think your post is unfair to Narasimha, the spirit of astrology &

India.

First of all you said that every known astrologer predicted victory

for BJP and Vajyape, two astrologers one of whom I interact regularly

with had predicted otherwise, his name is Anshumalee Sood, who is a

student of Sanjay Rath and also once upon a time a student of K.N.Rao

as per my information.

 

He had predicted in advance and I had forwarded his mail in advance

to this list.

The other astrologer Mr. Lachman Das Madan the Guru of Sumeet Chugh

had predicted in the times of india the failure for BJP. Mr. Madan is

a very famous astrologer running the reputed astrological magazine

Babaji.

 

Also, how do we know that Narasimha got swayed by public opinion in

the presidential debate, we were not inside his mind to know that or

even otherwise. So it might come a bit judgemental to say that he did

without us truly knowing it.

 

It is getting personal with astrology by saying that Sonia is running

a govt with criminals which is no better than getting swayed by

thoughts as "what was Atalji and Advani doing when Gujurat was

burning for so long, were they making papads. Why didn't they stop

Modi. If they were so honest and reputable in character why did they

allow Gujurat to happen. Today India is unfortunately labeled as the

most racist country, we can even say that BJP, RSS, VHP & Bajrang Dal

made this country more communal, all the riots that have happened due

to their "gunda gardi". I might support BJP but BJP supports Shiv

Sena which is known for its criminalisation and creating a bar joint

in every corner of bombay, double standards of allowing Michael

Jackson to perform in the name of art and not allowing other

foreigners to perform and MNCs to come and invest in this country. If

we are so concerned about feeding the poor in India, how come we

missed that BJP spent 800 crores on their ad campaign, it surely

would have fed 80 crores of people, I wonder if that is the entire

population of US. I can make similar accusations towards Congress and

also give some good points about them, but the purpose is not to get

personal and biased in astrology, especially without knowing the

astrolgers intent in his prediction. We are not here to judge a

political party or a personality, nor to boast of our predictions,

but to learn astrology, I presume that is the objective of this list.

 

You have always contributed to the list in astrological discussions,

this letter coming from you was a shock.

 

Let us also understand that astrology as we know it, might be not

even 1% of what our ancients knew. K.N.Rao himself says in his

book "There is no astrologer in the world who understands even one

third of this great astrological classic" This was said in context of

BPHS which many of us regard as the first text book of astrology, so

let us be humble and not get personal to such an extent is my request

to everyone.

 

If your reply is argumentative, I wouldn't be able to reply.

 

Regards,

 

Sushmita

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:

> Hello Narasimha:

>

> I watched the debate. Kerry destroyed Bush, Bush looked like an

> insecure, whiny school kid in front of Kerry. The CNN as well as

Fox

> opinion polls this morning confirm that Kerry convincingly beat

Bush.

>

> Now, amongst all the Jyotishas, you, in my opinion, are one of the

> most honest. So, why did you join the band-wagon of making

> predictions based on popular public opinion? Off course, before the

> debate, the public expected Bush to beat Kerry so EVERY astrologer

> out there predicted that Bush'll beat Kerry, but the opposite

> happened.

>

> Same is the case with US elections. The popular public opinion is

> that Bush will win. So, I'm sure all the hot and heavy Jyotishas

like

> Sanjay Rath, KN Rao, etc. etc. will predict a victory for Bush.

>

> Same thing happened with BJP loss in the Indian elections. The

> popular public opinion said that BJP will have a land-slide victory

> and EVERY known astrologer in India predicted a BJP win. -- They

all

> saw Raj-yogs in the charts of BJP, Vajpai and Advani--and the sad

> thing is that they were all working with different charts for the

> same individuals--noone to this day knows what the correct charts,

> yet all of these charts showed Raj-yogs for BJP and its leaders.

What

> happened to all these Raj-yogs?

>

> The sad thing is that after their predictions on BJP victory, NO

ONE

> came forward and said that they had predicted based on popular

public

> opinion and NOT Jyotish. However, almost every astrologer whose

> prediction had failed came up with a post-moterm of why their

> prediction went wrong!!!!!!

>

> What would happen if a surgeon performed the wrong surgery on a

> patient and later justified his faliure by looking at the same

> patient and finding reasons for his faliure???--he would be facing

> serious medical mal-practice lawsuits.

>

> How about this Narasimha--why don't you predict when will India be

> able to get out of the clutches of the congress government run by

> criminals, traitors and communists????? Why don't you see the chart

> of India and explain why India keeps on falling into the hands of

> crooked congressmen over and over and over again?????

>

> First Nehru ruined India, then his daughter Indira ruined India,

then

> her son Rajiv ruined India and now India fell into the hands of

> Rajiv's wife Sonia who has surrounded herself with some of the most

> corrupt, backward and criminal minded people on India.

>

> India with its huge highly-educated English speaking workforce

could

> have been like Hong-Kong, but is still a 3rd world country? Are

there

> some horrible yogs in India's chart that saints like Morarji Desai,

> Jayaprakash Narayan, Vajpayee and Advani are booted out of the

> government and corrupt politicians are taking over in their place

> OVER and OVER again?

>

> Why don't you take up a challenge like this rather than put out

> predictions based on popular public opinion?

>

> Mukund

>

> vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > Namaste,

> >

> > The daily Tithi Pravesha chart (DTPC) of Kerry is cast at 4:17:26

> am (TZ: 6:00 west of GMT). This chart has Leo rising. Hora lord at

> the time of the chart is Mercury. So he is the ruler of the day. He

> is exalted in rasi chart in the 2nd house. Exalted Mercury in 2nd

> shows eloquence and smooth speech. However, Mercury is debilitated

in

> navamsa. So I thought he may be a little shaky here and there.

> Kerry's main challenge was to dispel the noton so successfully

> planted in the minds of people by the Bush campaign that Kerry was

a

> flip-flopper and a waffler. With the hora lord Mercury placed in

2nd

> in rasi and debilitated in navamsa, I was not sure if he would

> deliver on that count. When I said he would be eloquent but a

little

> shaky, what I meant is that he would talk smoothly and fluently but

> might not be able to convince too many undecideds who are worried

> that he is a flip-flopper.

> >

> > In dasamsa, Mercury and Venus are in 6th from AL. With two

benefics

> in 6th, I thought he would come across as being soft and not too

> attacking.

> >

> > Now look at Bush's DTPC. It is cast at 2:23:53 am (TZ: 4:00 west

of

> GMT). This chart has Cancer rising. The hora lord is Sun. So Sun is

> the ruler of the day. Sun is in the 3rd house. While Mercury in 2nd

> in Kerry's case shows eloquence and fluenct speech, Sun in 3rd in

> Bush's case shows a strong, determined and a scathing approach. So

I

> said Bush would be somewhat strong and fiery. Moreover, in dasamsa,

> Sun is in 3rd from AL. So I thought he would come across as being

> attacking.

> >

> > Overall, I thought both would do well and neither would deliver a

> huge blow to the other campaign. But the solar strength made me

think

> that Bush may come out of it with a slight advantage. I thought

Bush

> would use the opportunity a little better to harm the credibility

of

> Kerry, even though Kerry may appear more eloquent and scholarly.

> >

> > Whether that happened or not is debatable. Opinions of

individuals

> who watched the debate can vary and opinions of pundits who

commented

> on the TV may vary. Some would say Bush did better and some would

say

> Kerry did. How the overall electorate took the debates will become

> clear in a few days after the latest opinion poll results are in.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> >

> > > Dear Narasimha,

> > > It is very rare of you to give predictions without astrological

> > > analysis, can you kindly give analysis. I have seen your

previous

> > > Tithi Pravesh usage and no one uses the way you do, so it is

> always a

> > > learning for most of us.

> > >

> > > Have you rectified the birth times of the canditates, if yes

can

> you

> > > post them on the list.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Sushmita

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...>

wrote:

> > > > Namaste friends,

> > > >

> > > > Based upon the daily Tithi Pravesha charts, it is my

prediction

> > > that

> > > > tonight's US presidential debate will go well. Kerry will be

> > > eloquent

> > > > but a little shaky and Bush will be somewhat strong and

fiery.

> Both

> > > > will do well, but Bush will come out of it with a little

> advantage.

> > > >

> > > > The charts I am using are:

> > > >

> > > > George W Bush

> > > >

> > > > July 6, 1946

> > > > Time: 7:30:00

> > > > Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > > > Place: 72 W 55' 43", 41 N 18' 29"

> > > >

> > > > John Kerry

> > > >

> > > > December 11, 1943

> > > > Time: 8:08:00

> > > > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT)

> > > > Place: 104 W 59' 03", 39 N 44' 21"

> > > >

> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > > Narasimha