Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Thanks for sharing sources, that delineate aspects of Rahu and Ketu. But the references themeself donot agree upon single result. Even Varahamihira did not exclusively touch Rahu Ketu in his classic Brihat Jataka. Whereas some scholars holds that aspect of Rahu is akin to Jupiter but in reverse order or say anti-zodiacally, i.e. 100% graha drishti: 5th, 7th, 9th and 2nd house from Rahu (anti-zodiacally). 75% graha drishti: 4th, 8th house from Rahu (anti-zodiacally). 50% graha drishti: none 25% graha drishti: 3rd and 10th house from Rahu (anti-zodiacally). In contrast Bepin Behari (in his Astrology Simplified) holds regarding aspect of nodes. 100% graha drishti: 5th, 7th, 9th and 12th(zodiacally) or 9th, 7th, 5th and 2nd(anti-zodiacally). 75% graha drishti: 2nd, 10th 50% graha drishti: 3rd, 4th, 6th and 8th. 25% graha drishti: none Whereas you reffered (JP and BPHS); according to which, Rahu and Ketu have Full (100%) aspect on 5th, 7th, 9th, 12th.Half (50%) aspect on 2nd,10th.Quarter (25%) aspect on 3rd, 6th. Here, I want to ask a technical question, how to work out precise graha drishti of nodes. Gauranga once wrote an article on it http://www..org/learn/drishti_review.htm but he did not give formulae for precise aspect of Rahu. If you or any member know how to formulate precise graha drishti then please reply. By the way, Anil you are so at home in programming and VBA. Why you not add this option of precise aspect in your VBA Event-Dasha-Transit. Regards M.Imran aokedia <anilkedia (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com> wrote: Dear NitinRAM KRISHN HAREThanks for sending Robert's compilation. I hope now Chandrashekharji will be fully satisfied.ThanksAnilkumarOM TAT SAT------------You wrote:Some references on Rahu/Ketu, as this was on the lists recently. I have to thank Robert Koch for compiling these and posting this on another list in 2001.One has to read carefully and decipher Rashi / Graha Drishti accordingly...===============================CLASSICAL REFERENCES TO THE ASPECTS OF RAHU AND KETUBPHS, Chapter 9, verses 7-11:Grahas (any Graha) in the 12th house will be the source of a short life,specifically the luminaries (Sun and Moon), Venus, and Rahu. But the aspectof these four planets (on the 12th house) will counteract such evils."BPHS, Chapter 30, verse 38:38. If Rahu is in the 7th or the 12th from Ascendant Pada or gives anaspect to one of the said houses, the native will be endowed with spiritualknowledge and be very fortunate.BPHS 33, 36:Ketu's aspect on the 5th from Karakamsha will cause dysentery and otherdiseases caused by (impure) water.BPHS: 33, 50:If Saturn and Rahu give an aspect to, or occupy, the 9th from Karakamsha,one will betray his elders and be averse to ancient learning.JATAKA PARIJATA: 6, 87:87. When the Moon in conjunction with a malefic planet occupies the signoccupied by the lord of the 8th bhava and when the last mentioned planet isaspected by Rahu, the person born will suffer from a disease affecting theprivities.JATAKA PARIJATA: 6, 97When Saturn in conjunction with Mars occupies the 6th bhava, and isaspected by the Sun and Rahu, and when the lord of the Ascendant is withoutstrength, the result will be a lingering illness.JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 50If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Rahu, the personborn will be a poor man.JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 51:If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Ketu, the personborn will be a minister of a king.JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 52When the Moon in Capricorn is aspected by Rahu, the person born will be abeggar.JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 52:When the Moon in Capricorn is aspected by Ketu, the persons born will be a lord.JAIMINI SUTRAM: 1, 7:7. When the Sun, Rahu and Venus occupy or aspect the twelfth from Arudhalagna the expenditure or losses arise because of the governmental action.JATAKA PARIJATA: 3, 42:When Mars occupies the Ascendant being aspected by Rahu, the person bornwill have a cord coiled round his body.JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 4:4. Even though Jupiter may occupy the Ascendant, if the Moon be in the 8th,the 12th or the 6th bhava and be aspected by the malefic planet Rahu,thechild meets with death.JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 59:59. When Saturn occupies a Navamsa owned by Jupiter and is aspected byRahu, and the lord of the Ascendant is not aspected by benefic planets, thenewborn child dies at once.JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 59When Saturn occupies a Navamsa owned by Jupiter and is aspected by Rahu,and the lord of the Ascendant is not aspected by benefic planets and thelord of the rising sign is in his exaltation, the life of the child is 19 years.------Original mail-------Dear ChandrashekharjiRAM KRISHN HAREYou wrote:"If I remember right Laghu parashari says that Rahu/Ketu (by extension) also give the results of planets occupying 7th house from them. It does not talk about Rahu and Ketu having aspect on 7th house. Since he only says tomograhH, it could also mean only Rahu."---First, Tamo grah include both raho and ketu.Both block light during eclipse.Second, If you prescribe the results to aspects,there is no need to consider any special rule.What happens if 7th is empty?Ofcourse you haveto see it in some vargas as ketu is always in 7th from rahu in D1. So do you think that it will not give any results of 7th house from it in sayD24? Do you use it for both natal and transit placement? As far as classical reference is concerned,See Jatak-Parijat ch.2 verse 32.It clearly says rahu's aspect is downward,confirming Rahu has aspect!BPHS(Khemraj-Shrikrishndas-edition) in chapter 47,verse 26,says:SUT-MADAN-NAV-ANTE POORN DRISHTIM TAMASYAYUGAL-DASHAM GEHE CH ARDH DRISHTIM VADANTISAHAJ-RIPU VIPASHYAN PAD DRISHTIMeaning rahu and ketu have full aspect on 5-7-9-12.half aspect on 2-10.quarter aspect on 3-6.Do you have this BPHS?Late Jagannath Bhasin has strongly endorsed these aspects in his books.Now can you provide any reference which explicitly says that Rahu/Ketudo not have any aspect?Prashant wrote: "i dont believe in 7th 'aspect' of rahu-ketu. any planet with ra or ke is caught in the axis, & shows affliction. what is the need of describing it as 7th aspect." I think there is still need of describing it as 7th aspect.Otherwise,it should not give any results in Rahu dasha.Its results will be restricted to Ketu dasha only.If you get results in both rahu and ketu dasha,you haveto accept both.ThanksAnilkumarOM TAT SATPS: Visti can you check your BPHS if it is in chapter 51 or 47?Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me?Lo! I am beside thee.I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in Kailash:Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and renunciation.If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt meet Me in a moment of time.Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath."Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Thanks for sharing sources, that delineate aspects of Rahu and Ketu. But the references themeself donot agree upon single result. Even Varahamihira did not exclusively touch Rahu Ketu in his classic Brihat Jataka. Whereas some scholars holds that aspect of Rahu is akin to Jupiter but in reverse order or say anti-zodiacally, i.e. 100% graha drishti: 5th, 7th, 9th and 2nd house from Rahu (anti-zodiacally). 75% graha drishti: 4th, 8th house from Rahu (anti-zodiacally). 50% graha drishti: none 25% graha drishti: 3rd and 10th house from Rahu (anti-zodiacally). In contrast Bepin Behari (in his Astrology Simplified) holds regarding aspect of nodes. 100% graha drishti: 5th, 7th, 9th and 12th(zodiacally) or 9th, 7th, 5th and 2nd(anti-zodiacally). 75% graha drishti: 2nd, 10th 50% graha drishti: 3rd, 4th, 6th and 8th. 25% graha drishti: none Whereas you reffered (JP and BPHS); according to which, Rahu and Ketu have Full (100%) aspect on 5th, 7th, 9th, 12th.Half (50%) aspect on 2nd,10th.Quarter (25%) aspect on 3rd, 6th. Here, I want to ask a technical question, how to work out precise graha drishti of nodes. Gauranga once wrote an article on it http://www..org/learn/drishti_review.htm but he did not give formulae for precise aspect of Rahu. If you or any member know how to formulate precise graha drishti then please reply. By the way, Anil you are so at home in programming and VBA. Why you not add this option of precise aspect in your VBA Event-Dasha-Transit. Regards M.Imran aokedia <anilkedia (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com> wrote: Dear NitinRAM KRISHN HAREThanks for sending Robert's compilation. I hope now Chandrashekharji will be fully satisfied.ThanksAnilkumarOM TAT SAT------------You wrote:Some references on Rahu/Ketu, as this was on the lists recently. I have to thank Robert Koch for compiling these and posting this on another list in 2001.One has to read carefully and decipher Rashi / Graha Drishti accordingly...===============================CLASSICAL REFERENCES TO THE ASPECTS OF RAHU AND KETUBPHS, Chapter 9, verses 7-11:Grahas (any Graha) in the 12th house will be the source of a short life,specifically the luminaries (Sun and Moon), Venus, and Rahu. But the aspectof these four planets (on the 12th house) will counteract such evils."BPHS, Chapter 30, verse 38:38. If Rahu is in the 7th or the 12th from Ascendant Pada or gives anaspect to one of the said houses, the native will be endowed with spiritualknowledge and be very fortunate.BPHS 33, 36:Ketu's aspect on the 5th from Karakamsha will cause dysentery and otherdiseases caused by (impure) water.BPHS: 33, 50:If Saturn and Rahu give an aspect to, or occupy, the 9th from Karakamsha,one will betray his elders and be averse to ancient learning.JATAKA PARIJATA: 6, 87:87. When the Moon in conjunction with a malefic planet occupies the signoccupied by the lord of the 8th bhava and when the last mentioned planet isaspected by Rahu, the person born will suffer from a disease affecting theprivities.JATAKA PARIJATA: 6, 97When Saturn in conjunction with Mars occupies the 6th bhava, and isaspected by the Sun and Rahu, and when the lord of the Ascendant is withoutstrength, the result will be a lingering illness.JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 50If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Rahu, the personborn will be a poor man.JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 51:If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Ketu, the personborn will be a minister of a king.JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 52When the Moon in Capricorn is aspected by Rahu, the person born will be abeggar.JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 52:When the Moon in Capricorn is aspected by Ketu, the persons born will be a lord.JAIMINI SUTRAM: 1, 7:7. When the Sun, Rahu and Venus occupy or aspect the twelfth from Arudhalagna the expenditure or losses arise because of the governmental action.JATAKA PARIJATA: 3, 42:When Mars occupies the Ascendant being aspected by Rahu, the person bornwill have a cord coiled round his body.JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 4:4. Even though Jupiter may occupy the Ascendant, if the Moon be in the 8th,the 12th or the 6th bhava and be aspected by the malefic planet Rahu,thechild meets with death.JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 59:59. When Saturn occupies a Navamsa owned by Jupiter and is aspected byRahu, and the lord of the Ascendant is not aspected by benefic planets, thenewborn child dies at once.JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 59When Saturn occupies a Navamsa owned by Jupiter and is aspected by Rahu,and the lord of the Ascendant is not aspected by benefic planets and thelord of the rising sign is in his exaltation, the life of the child is 19 years.------Original mail-------Dear ChandrashekharjiRAM KRISHN HAREYou wrote:"If I remember right Laghu parashari says that Rahu/Ketu (by extension) also give the results of planets occupying 7th house from them. It does not talk about Rahu and Ketu having aspect on 7th house. Since he only says tomograhH, it could also mean only Rahu."---First, Tamo grah include both raho and ketu.Both block light during eclipse.Second, If you prescribe the results to aspects,there is no need to consider any special rule.What happens if 7th is empty?Ofcourse you haveto see it in some vargas as ketu is always in 7th from rahu in D1. So do you think that it will not give any results of 7th house from it in sayD24? Do you use it for both natal and transit placement? As far as classical reference is concerned,See Jatak-Parijat ch.2 verse 32.It clearly says rahu's aspect is downward,confirming Rahu has aspect!BPHS(Khemraj-Shrikrishndas-edition) in chapter 47,verse 26,says:SUT-MADAN-NAV-ANTE POORN DRISHTIM TAMASYAYUGAL-DASHAM GEHE CH ARDH DRISHTIM VADANTISAHAJ-RIPU VIPASHYAN PAD DRISHTIMeaning rahu and ketu have full aspect on 5-7-9-12.half aspect on 2-10.quarter aspect on 3-6.Do you have this BPHS?Late Jagannath Bhasin has strongly endorsed these aspects in his books.Now can you provide any reference which explicitly says that Rahu/Ketudo not have any aspect?Prashant wrote: "i dont believe in 7th 'aspect' of rahu-ketu. any planet with ra or ke is caught in the axis, & shows affliction. what is the need of describing it as 7th aspect." I think there is still need of describing it as 7th aspect.Otherwise,it should not give any results in Rahu dasha.Its results will be restricted to Ketu dasha only.If you get results in both rahu and ketu dasha,you haveto accept both.ThanksAnilkumarOM TAT SATPS: Visti can you check your BPHS if it is in chapter 51 or 47?Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me?Lo! I am beside thee.I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in Kailash:Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and renunciation.If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt meet Me in a moment of time.Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath."Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Dear Anil, It is not a question of my being satisfied or otherwise. If we look back to how BPHS was originally reconstructed my skepticism about some of the shlokas should be clear. I am certain you and others including honourable Robert have seen many a charts with Rahu ( or Sun, Moon, Venus for that matter the last actually gives rise to a Raj yoga as a matter of fact) in 12th house having long life. Think about the applicability of Shloka to real life horoscope and its veracity (Ch 9 verses 7 to 11). One should also think as to why none of the later day acharyas considered these drishties. Rasi drishty are altogether a different matter. Again think why Rahu's 7th house drishty is mentioned in the Shloka which is touted as proof of what Parashara says. Ketu is always in the 7th house from Rahu, so how do you find out a different result attributed to Rahu's drishty there? If Rahu's drishty on 7th is correct then he being a planet of Bhoga and desire how could Ketu give results of Mokshakaraka? Think about this when reading about Shloka 38 Ch. 30. Again why then the sages tell us that Rahu (and Ketu too as tamograha is mentioned) gives results of 7th from where he is placed? No doubt I could be wrong, but please understand that I was taught not to take any statement at face value without thinking about its authenticity and testing the same on the anvil of basic principles and logic. It is too late at this stage of my life to change that attitude towards learning of the divine science. Regards, Chandrashekhar. aokedia wrote: Dear Nitin RAM KRISHN HARE Thanks for sending Robert's compilation. I hope now Chandrashekharji will be fully satisfied. Thanks Anilkumar OM TAT SAT ------------ You wrote: Some references on Rahu/Ketu, as this was on the lists recently. I have to thank Robert Koch for compiling these and posting this on another list in 2001. One has to read carefully and decipher Rashi / Graha Drishti accordingly... =============================== CLASSICAL REFERENCES TO THE ASPECTS OF RAHU AND KETU BPHS, Chapter 9, verses 7-11: Grahas (any Graha) in the 12th house will be the source of a short life, specifically the luminaries (Sun and Moon), Venus, and Rahu. But the aspect of these four planets (on the 12th house) will counteract such evils." BPHS, Chapter 30, verse 38: 38. If Rahu is in the 7th or the 12th from Ascendant Pada or gives an aspect to one of the said houses, the native will be endowed with spiritual knowledge and be very fortunate. BPHS 33, 36: Ketu's aspect on the 5th from Karakamsha will cause dysentery and other diseases caused by (impure) water. BPHS: 33, 50: If Saturn and Rahu give an aspect to, or occupy, the 9th from Karakamsha, one will betray his elders and be averse to ancient learning. JATAKA PARIJATA: 6, 87: 87. When the Moon in conjunction with a malefic planet occupies the sign occupied by the lord of the 8th bhava and when the last mentioned planet is aspected by Rahu, the person born will suffer from a disease affecting the privities. JATAKA PARIJATA: 6, 97 When Saturn in conjunction with Mars occupies the 6th bhava, and is aspected by the Sun and Rahu, and when the lord of the Ascendant is without strength, the result will be a lingering illness. JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 50 If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Rahu, the person born will be a poor man. JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 51: If the Moon occupies the sign Scorpio and be aspected by Ketu, the person born will be a minister of a king. JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 52 When the Moon in Capricorn is aspected by Rahu, the person born will be a beggar. JATAKA PARIJATA: 8, 52: When the Moon in Capricorn is aspected by Ketu, the persons born will be a lord. JAIMINI SUTRAM: 1, 7: 7. When the Sun, Rahu and Venus occupy or aspect the twelfth from Arudha lagna the expenditure or losses arise because of the governmental action. JATAKA PARIJATA: 3, 42: When Mars occupies the Ascendant being aspected by Rahu, the person born will have a cord coiled round his body. JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 4: 4. Even though Jupiter may occupy the Ascendant, if the Moon be in the 8th, the 12th or the 6th bhava and be aspected by the malefic planet Rahu,the child meets with death. JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 59: 59. When Saturn occupies a Navamsa owned by Jupiter and is aspected by Rahu, and the lord of the Ascendant is not aspected by benefic planets, the newborn child dies at once. JATAKA PARIJATA: 4, 59 When Saturn occupies a Navamsa owned by Jupiter and is aspected by Rahu, and the lord of the Ascendant is not aspected by benefic planets and the lord of the rising sign is in his exaltation, the life of the child is 19 years. ------Original mail------- Dear Chandrashekharji RAM KRISHN HARE You wrote: "If I remember right Laghu parashari says that Rahu/Ketu (by extension) also give the results of planets occupying 7th house from them. It does not talk about Rahu and Ketu having aspect on 7th house. Since he only says tomograhH, it could also mean only Rahu." --- First, Tamo grah include both raho and ketu.Both block light during eclipse. Second, If you prescribe the results to aspects,there is no need to consider any special rule.What happens if 7th is empty?Ofcourse you have to see it in some vargas as ketu is always in 7th from rahu in D1. So do you think that it will not give any results of 7th house from it in say D24? Do you use it for both natal and transit placement? As far as classical reference is concerned,See Jatak-Parijat ch.2 verse 32. It clearly says rahu's aspect is downward,confirming Rahu has aspect! BPHS(Khemraj-Shrikrishndas-edition) in chapter 47,verse 26,says: SUT-MADAN-NAV-ANTE POORN DRISHTIM TAMASYA YUGAL-DASHAM GEHE CH ARDH DRISHTIM VADANTI SAHAJ-RIPU VIPASHYAN PAD DRISHTI Meaning rahu and ketu have full aspect on 5-7-9-12. half aspect on 2-10. quarter aspect on 3-6. Do you have this BPHS? Late Jagannath Bhasin has strongly endorsed these aspects in his books. Now can you provide any reference which explicitly says that Rahu/Ketu do not have any aspect? Prashant wrote: "i dont believe in 7th 'aspect' of rahu-ketu. any planet with ra or ke is caught in the axis, & shows affliction. what is the need of describing it as 7th aspect." I think there is still need of describing it as 7th aspect.Otherwise, it should not give any results in Rahu dasha.Its results will be restricted to Ketu dasha only.If you get results in both rahu and ketu dasha,you have to accept both. Thanks Anilkumar OM TAT SAT PS: Visti can you check your BPHS if it is in chapter 51 or 47? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Dear Devotees and Nondevotees too , please accept my obeicenses , I´m in Venus-dasa at present. Venus is located in 12th house (3:00) ,and asp. by Rahu from the 8th closely(3:30), and from Mars in the 9th also closely(1:52).Lagna is Sagittarius (13:56). Are there some remedial measures to pacify this Rahu? It´s important for me , because he also aspects Moon and Mercury closely. I´m already chanting :Om namo Bhagavate Varahadevaya , to some degree but i would be very happy for any other advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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