Nadi Astrology, Yogakaraka & a Scorpio Lagna

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Dear Learned Members,

 

Recently I came across some very old notes of an astrologer on Nadi Astrology.

The confusing part was a section where in he has for Scorpio Lagna once

mentioned & used Moon as Yogakaraka and in another instance Sun as Yogakaraka.

Now as per my knowledge Scorpio lagna doesnt have a yogakaraka as no planet

owns both a kendra and trikona here.

 

What has put me in a fix is that obviously most astrologers know the meaning of

Yogakaraka so why should this astrologer use the word yogakaraka in this

context when for Sc lagna it doesnt exist.

 

Some of u have been dwelling into various branches of Nadi astrology esp I know

Ramadasji, can someone be kind enough to shower some light on the why a vedic

astrologer should use Moon & Sun as yogakarakas here for this lagna.

 

Or am i missing something basic here.

 

Thanks in advance

 

best

 

Sunil John

Mumbai

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Dear Sunil,

 

If Mars is unable to deliver results then Sun and Moon will step in

to furnish the timing of results.

 

This is also given in lessons in Krushnas Ashtakavarga System.

 

I had mentioned it to Pradeep in my discussions with you who's

reference I am giving.

 

Please refer to post.

 

vedic astrology/message/44811

 

I shall highlight the text for you.

 

"NATURAL SAMDHARMIS ARE VENUS AND SHANI. MOON AND MARS AND SUN AND

MARS. IF YOU STUDY KEENLY VENUS AND SHANI ARE YOGAKARAKS FOR EACH

OTHERS HOUSES. ALSO IF YOU STUDY MORE CLOSELY THAT VENUS AND SHANI

ARE IN 5:9 AND 4:10 RELATION BETWEEN HOUSES OWNED BY THE PLANET SAME

FOR MOON AND MARS AND SUN AND MARS. THEY ARE ALSO YOGAKARAKS."

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

vedic astrology, Sunil John

<jjnet2000_in> wrote:

> Dear Learned Members,

>

> Recently I came across some very old notes of an astrologer on Nadi

Astrology. The confusing part was a section where in he has for

Scorpio Lagna once mentioned & used Moon as Yogakaraka and in another

instance Sun as Yogakaraka. Now as per my knowledge Scorpio lagna

doesnt have a yogakaraka as no planet owns both a kendra and trikona

here.

>

> What has put me in a fix is that obviously most astrologers know

the meaning of Yogakaraka so why should this astrologer use the word

yogakaraka in this context when for Sc lagna it doesnt exist.

>

> Some of u have been dwelling into various branches of Nadi

astrology esp I know Ramadasji, can someone be kind enough to shower

some light on the why a vedic astrologer should use Moon & Sun as

yogakarakas here for this lagna.

>

> Or am i missing something basic here.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> best

>

> Sunil John

> Mumbai

> P.S: thanks letter are sent privately so as not to clog the board.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sunil,

If a planet owns only one Rasi and is lord of a trine, he gets the

status of a Yogakaraka. This is with even greater effects if he

associates a Square Lord or is in a square.

Chandrashekhar.

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Dear Learned

Members,

 

Recently I came

across some very old notes of an astrologer on Nadi Astrology. The

confusing part was a section where in he has for Scorpio Lagna once

mentioned & used Moon as Yogakaraka and in another instance Sun as

Yogakaraka. Now as per my knowledge Scorpio lagna doesnt have a

yogakaraka as no planet owns both a kendra and trikona here.

 

What has put me

in a fix is that obviously most astrologers know the meaning of

Yogakaraka so why should this astrologer use the word yogakaraka in

this context when for Sc lagna it doesnt exist.

 

Some of u have

been dwelling into various branches of Nadi astrology esp I know

Ramadasji, can someone be kind enough to shower some light on the why a

vedic astrologer should use Moon & Sun as yogakarakas here for this

lagna.

 

Or am i missing

something basic here.

 

Thanks in advance

 

best

 

Sunil John

Mumbai

P.S: thanks

letter are sent privately so as not to clog the board.

 

 

 

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JAYA JAGA NNATHA!

 

Dear Sunil, Namaste.

 

Could you provide the exact phrases that he used in connection with these

planets? Because I suspect that he must have meants some combination of the two

planets in this case, as Moon is the lord of the 9th while the Sun is the lord

of the 10th for Scorpio lagna. Obviously a new Mon phase (i.e. Sun/Moon

conjoining) would not necessarily be a perfect combination, however if they are

relatively strong, they may still give Rajayoga. Also, certain phases or

Sun-Moon yogas may be mentioned in this regadr as favourable. You should also

always check the strength of the Sun and the Moon for any Raja-yoga and any

lagna, as well as them becoming Yogadas for lagna, Hora Lagna and Ghati Lagna.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish

Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone: +36-309-140-839

 

 

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Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:02 PM

[vedic astrology] Nadi Astrology, Yogakaraka & a Scorpio Lagna

Dear Learned Members,

 

Recently I came across some very old notes of an astrologer on Nadi Astrology.

The confusing part was a section where in he has for Scorpio Lagna once

mentioned & used Moon as Yogakaraka and in another instance Sun as Yogakaraka.

Now as per my knowledge Scorpio lagna doesnt have a yogakaraka as no planet

owns both a kendra and trikona here.

 

What has put me in a fix is that obviously most astrologers know the meaning of

Yogakaraka so why should this astrologer use the word yogakaraka in this

context when for Sc lagna it doesnt exist.

 

Some of u have been dwelling into various branches of Nadi astrology esp I know

Ramadasji, can someone be kind enough to shower some light on the why a vedic

astrologer should use Moon & Sun as yogakarakas here for this lagna.

 

Or am i missing something basic here.

 

Thanks in advance

 

best

 

Sunil John

Mumbai

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Sunil,

 

Namaste,

 

 

I am afraid I don't understand your statement. Are you trying to imply that

people

with Aries,Gemini,Virgo,Scorpio,Sagittarius and Pisces Lagna have no

yogakaraka?? By

that logic, one would have to draw a conclusion that 50% of people on this earth

have no yogakaraka!

 

I think Parasara in BPHS had attributed that Mars is a yoga karaka for Pisces

Lagna

since he is 2 & 9th lagna. I don't know the exact sloka, you must excuse me.

Pray

tell me, why did Parasara say that? Mars doesn't lord a kendra and kona!!

 

IMHO, 9th lord is independently capable of being a yoga karaka.

 

Take my own chart, I have Scorpio lagna with Moon exalted, yet combust and

conjunct

Sun. I had a "fantastic" Moon dasa(too bad, i was a kid then). To further

strengthen

Gauranga's point, yes Moon is strong in shadbala, rather Sun and Moon are.

 

There is one gentleman "Mukund" on this list, he too has Scorpio lagna and has

posted several times that he had a fantastic Moon dasa.

 

warm regards,

Vishnu

 

 

 

 

 

--- Gauranga Das <gauranga wrote:

 

> JAYA JAGA NNATHA!

>

> Dear Sunil, Namaste.

>

> Could you provide the exact phrases that he used in connection with these

planets?

> Because I suspect that he must have meants some combination of the two planets

in

> this case, as Moon is the lord of the 9th while the Sun is the lord of the

10th

> for Scorpio lagna. Obviously a new Mon phase (i.e. Sun/Moon conjoining) would

not

> necessarily be a perfect combination, however if they are relatively strong,

they

> may still give Rajayoga. Also, certain phases or Sun-Moon yogas may be

mentioned

> in this regadr as favourable. You should also always check the strength of

the

> Sun and the Moon for any Raja-yoga and any lagna, as well as them becoming

Yogadas

> for lagna, Hora Lagna and Ghati Lagna.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga

> Jyotish Remedies:

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> Phone: +36-309-140-839

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> Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:02 PM

> [vedic astrology] Nadi Astrology, Yogakaraka & a Scorpio Lagna

>

>

> Dear Learned Members,

>

> Recently I came across some very old notes of an astrologer on Nadi

Astrology.

> The confusing part was a section where in he has for Scorpio Lagna once

mentioned

> & used Moon as Yogakaraka and in another instance Sun as Yogakaraka. Now as

per my

> knowledge Scorpio lagna doesnt have a yogakaraka as no planet owns both a

kendra

> and trikona here.

>

> What has put me in a fix is that obviously most astrologers know the meaning

of

> Yogakaraka so why should this astrologer use the word yogakaraka in this

context

> when for Sc lagna it doesnt exist.

>

> Some of u have been dwelling into various branches of Nadi astrology esp I

know

> Ramadasji, can someone be kind enough to shower some light on the why a vedic

> astrologer should use Moon & Sun as yogakarakas here for this lagna.

>

> Or am i missing something basic here.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> best

>

> Sunil John

> Mumbai

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Dear Reema,

 

Namaste.

 

 

> Namaste Gaurangaji,

>

> The strength of Surya is important for initiation of Rajayoga and

> that of Chandra is important for sustenance of the Rajayoga. However,

> which strength are we talking about here? Vimsopaka? Shadbala? Amsa

> bala? Kindly help us understand how to gauge the strengths of these

> two luminaries.

 

I would use sources of strength as per Jaimini. However Amsa bala is also a

good thing to consider. Narasimha earlier gave a good analogy to understand

the role of different sources of strength.

 

Yours,

 

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> May Sri Vishnu bless us all.

> Reema.

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> vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...>

> wrote:

> > JAYA JAGA NNATHA!

> >

> > Dear Sunil, Namaste.

> >

> > Could you provide the exact phrases that he used in connection with

> these planets? Because I suspect that he must have meants some

> combination of the two planets in this case, as Moon is the lord of

> the 9th while the Sun is the lord of the 10th for Scorpio lagna.

> Obviously a new Mon phase (i.e. Sun/Moon conjoining) would not

> necessarily be a perfect combination, however if they are relatively

> strong, they may still give Rajayoga. Also, certain phases or Sun-

> Moon yogas may be mentioned in this regadr as favourable. You should

> also always check the strength of the Sun and the Moon for any Raja-

> yoga and any lagna, as well as them becoming Yogadas for lagna, Hora

> Lagna and Ghati Lagna.

> >

> > Yours,

> >

> > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

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> > Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:02 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Nadi Astrology, Yogakaraka & a Scorpio

> Lagna

> >

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> > Dear Learned Members,

> >

> > Recently I came across some very old notes of an astrologer on

> Nadi Astrology. The confusing part was a section where in he has for

> Scorpio Lagna once mentioned & used Moon as Yogakaraka and in another

> instance Sun as Yogakaraka. Now as per my knowledge Scorpio lagna

> doesnt have a yogakaraka as no planet owns both a kendra and trikona

> here.

> >

> > What has put me in a fix is that obviously most astrologers know

> the meaning of Yogakaraka so why should this astrologer use the word

> yogakaraka in this context when for Sc lagna it doesnt exist.

> >

> > Some of u have been dwelling into various branches of Nadi

> astrology esp I know Ramadasji, can someone be kind enough to shower

> some light on the why a vedic astrologer should use Moon & Sun as

> yogakarakas here for this lagna.

> >

> > Or am i missing something basic here.

> >

> > Thanks in advance

> >

> > best

> >

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|| Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Reema,

 

If you try understanding the shad-bala... the sthana bala takes care of all the

strength of a planet on the virtue of its placement. You can take that as a

good measure... however in normal practice you can check whether the planet is

placed in exaltation, mulatrikona, own sign or friend's sign in the rasi and

navamsa.

 

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Tuesday, October 05, 2004 1:01 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Nadi Astrology, Yogakaraka & a Scorpio Lagna

JAYA JAGANNATHA!Dear Reema,Namaste.> Namaste Gaurangaji,>> The strength of Surya

is important for initiation of Rajayoga and> that of Chandra is important for

sustenance of the Rajayoga. However,> which strength are we talking about here?

Vimsopaka? Shadbala? Amsa> bala? Kindly help us understand how to gauge the

strengths of these> two luminaries.I would use sources of strength as per

Jaimini. However Amsa bala is also agood thing to consider. Narasimha earlier

gave a good analogy to understandthe role of different sources of

strength.Yours,Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone: +36-309-140-839> May Sri

Vishnu bless us all.> Reema.>> vedic astrology, Gauranga

Das <gauranga@b...>> wrote:> > JAYA JAGA NNATHA!> >> > Dear Sunil, Namaste.> >>

> Could you provide the exact phrases that he used in connection with> these

planets? Because I suspect that he must have meants some> combination of the

two planets in this case, as Moon is the lord of> the 9th while the Sun is the

lord of the 10th for Scorpio lagna.> Obviously a new Mon phase (i.e. Sun/Moon

conjoining) would not> necessarily be a perfect combination, however if they

are relatively> strong, they may still give Rajayoga. Also, certain phases or

Sun-> Moon yogas may be mentioned in this regadr as favourable. You should>

also always check the strength of the Sun and the Moon for any Raja-> yoga and

any lagna, as well as them becoming Yogadas for lagna, Hora> Lagna and Ghati

Lagna.> >> > Yours,> >> > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer> > gauranga@b...> >

Jyotish Remedies:> > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET> > Phone:

+36-309-140-839> >> >> > -> > Sunil John>

> vedic astrology> > Thursday, September 30, 2004

9:02 PM> > [vedic astrology] Nadi Astrology, Yogakaraka & a Scorpio>

Lagna> >> >> > Dear Learned Members,> >> > Recently I came across some very

old notes of an astrologer on> Nadi Astrology. The confusing part was a section

where in he has for> Scorpio Lagna once mentioned & used Moon as Yogakaraka and

in another> instance Sun as Yogakaraka. Now as per my knowledge Scorpio lagna>

doesnt have a yogakaraka as no planet owns both a kendra and trikona> here.> >>

> What has put me in a fix is that obviously most astrologers know> the

meaning of Yogakaraka so why should this astrologer use the word> yogakaraka in

this context when for Sc lagna it doesnt exist.> >> > Some of u have been

dwelling into various branches of Nadi> astrology esp I know Ramadasji, can

someone be kind enough to shower> some light on the why a vedic astrologer

should use Moon & Sun as> yogakarakas here for this lagna.> >> > Or am i

missing something basic here.> >> > Thanks in advance> >> > best> >> >

Sunil John> > Mumbai> > P.S: thanks letter are sent privately so as not to

clog the> board.> >> >> >> >

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