Exch 8: Satyanarayana Vrath to P.S.Ramanarayananji & Lakshmiji

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Dear Shri Ramanarayananji

 

It has taken me one day and still I havent been able to grasp your email in its

full entirety. I do remember some months back when you decided to grace the

list, their was great pearls of wisdom imparted from your end.

 

Some learnings from your writings

 

1. I was under the impression that the meaning of the word tamasic was more of

evil or negative but now I feel very happy to know that it is or can be

laziness/sluggishness etc.

 

2. Ur mail said one should give up Satva guna also, does it mean what u are

trying to say the path is of Nirguna, if u have time kindly explain the full

meaning of Nirguna.

Sorry i am getting tangential here & this is becoming a non astrological

discussion, sorry to other members.

Thanks for the trikona and element, finally it has sunk in, with the element

being the same activation in one house results in other houses also.

 

While writing this email midway I got a thought about u doing some writing. I

did a prashna to ask for further light ( i know traditionally prashna is done

when asked by someone, but I follow Deepak Kapoor and feel prashna can also be

done by self to ask for more light on a thought). Coming back to the prashna

and the result, are you writing a book or an article or are u going to do so in

the future.

 

If you do not wish to reply to such a personal question, I shall understand.

 

 

Dear Smt. Lakshmiji,

 

Kindly call me only Sunil. Thanks so much for ur mail.

1. A very interesting point you have made on Sani being debilitated in his own

nak, can you be more kind enough to expand on the logic of why it happens or

maybe someone else would like to add in too.

 

2. Coming back to ur previous post on the Satyanarayana Vrath, it was quite

nice, can one use only Bananas as prasadam, I mean a westerner wont get Rawa

over their.

yes it very much helps to have women on board, it is Lakshmi Maa swarup.

 

 

Thanks,

 

With Blessings of the Divine Mother

 

Sunil JohnMumbairama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

 

Dear Sunil,

 

Thanks for your response and invitation. i am happy indeed to receive such an affectionate reply.

 

Now let me take up your questions one by one.

 

1. Tamasic guna and suspected afflictions:- In layman's parlance tamasic guna

refers to laziness/sluggish/lethargic. In other words slow to respond. This

means this attribute consumes lot of time/kaala.

 

When darkness envelopes everywhere one takes utmost care in taking each and

every step. Here the slowness is intentional and is borne out of intelligence.

Here also a lot of time is consumed.

 

Let us take the central theme of tamasic guna which is consumption of time. Let us take an example.

 

A person who sleeps a lot and does not indulge himself in any activity useful

either to him or to the society can be declared a waste. The moment he

discovers that he is being declared a waste and is being discarded, his ego

gets a jolt.

 

His mind starts tossing up and down with great force. His present hyperactive

state does not help him either. He is now being advised to calm down his mental

state.

 

Let us assume that he fortunately gets a Guru who helps him to discover the all

important breath(prana) which involuntarily goes into him and comes out. The

moment he starts observing this breath he comes to understand that there is a

definite rhythm. The moment he is able to identify this rhythm the mind slowly

calms down. This habit of observing the breath automatically binds him to that

rhythm. He becomes more and more aware of the breath its source and its close

links to mind/time/life being led. He now leads a measured life which in a crude

sense can be called a slow response to karmic demands/cosumption of time in

great measure.

 

There is a definite difference between the first state and the current state

though the central theme viz. slow consumption of time, is the same.

 

In negative sense Sani makes the person lazy and in the positive sense he gives

enough vairghya/determination and concentration to help the individual to

discover KAALI IN KAALA(potential power in the breath/time that is being

unconsciously used for wasting precious lifetime).

 

>From the point of view of absolute, every guna has negative and positive

qualities. Ultimately one should give up satva also. This is what is

beautifully explained in Devi Mahatmyam. Hreem destroys rajo guna, Kleem

destroys tamo guna and Shreem pierces Satva guna. Navarathri festival(9 days)

and vijaya dasami(10th day) echoes this aspect only. Mothers declares success

after vanquishing shadripu and trigunas on the 10th day.

 

2. Sani is a slow moving planet(sani+chara). A tapaswi uses his life force

thoughtfully. Breath is the basic unit of time/kaala. Sani rules breath and is

also known as kaala.Sani represents pranayama. Moon represents mind. It is a

well known factor that pranayama helps in arresting vikshepa(tossing up of

mind). Placement of Moon in the amsa of sani, the mutual aspects and

parivarthana between moon and sani are all pointers in this direction. For

overcoming the negative aspects of Sani the beej mantra is Kleem.

 

3. Sani the tapaswi makes the individual a mouni(you can see Mother Kali puts

out her tongue to such an extent that all those who see her immediately

understands that one should open up their inner ears and shut down their

mouths). Houses 3/7/11 are called as kaama trikonas. Trikonas are mutually

linked up through their common tatva(fire/earth/air/water).

i hope this helps.

 

Best wishes.

 

Astrologically yours,

p.s.ramanarayanan.Sunil John <jjnet2000_in > wrote:

||| Om Namo Naarayanaaya|||

 

Dear Shri Ramanarayan ji

 

One can always expect some pearls of wisdom to come out of ur replies. Thanks

for this post which has prompted me to ask some basics, so kindly bear and it

would be nice to see ur reply once again.

 

1. If Full Moon tithi is ruled by Sani, isn't Shani Tamasic, so wouldn't it

spoil the significations of the moon. Can you kindly expand here something

which i must be missing.

 

2. Moon Sani combination which u mentioned does it mean only by conjunction or

other variants like aspects, kona or kendra to each other also become valid in

this context.

 

3. As I understand from your post, by listening to stories of the Lord, Sani

removes cleanses the ears.

Sir, can you expand on the logic behind the statement that any change in the 3rd

house has definite repurcusions on the 7th and 11th, is it due to the fact that

they are in konas to each other.

 

SImultaneously do you mean to suggest that 7th house and 11th house gets healed

by this activation of the 3rd house.

 

If you ever plan to come to bombay kindly let me know, would like to spend some

time in your presence.

 

 

 

Warm regards,

 

Sunil John

Mumbai

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

 

Dear Sunil,

 

Pournimasya thithi is ruled by Sani. When the Moon is full/mind is fully is

matured vairagya/determination takes control. Moon-Sani combination is

extremely favourable for truth seekers.

 

Vratha means allowing the lord to manifest. This means the question as to what

'I" should do does not arise in this context. The intention is not to allow the

atmakaraka/ahankara to do something and expect something in return. Vratha does

not give room for ahankara to exist. This means that the baktha is totally

filled with the grace of lord. When the baktha is totally filled by devotion

to lord there can be no space for anything else. This is what people call as

fasting/abstaining from food.

 

All that is allowed to enter the system is called as 'ahaara'/food. In this

context abstaining from food and allowing the mind to feast itself in any

worldly attractions will not come under vratha.

 

How can one fill up oneself with the devotion to the lord? How can one develop

bakthi? The one simple way is to listen to the lilas/glories/stories of lord.

By regularly hearing the stories of the Lord one automatically develops

devotion within.

 

Listen to the story of lord. The ears(3rd house) which are otherwise attuned to

kama if cleansed( by the buds of vairaghya - sani is responsible for expulsion

of waste) allows the story of lord to flow within. Any change in 3rd house has

definite repercussion on 7th and 11th houses. Love and desire towards

God-Communion will automatically manifest.

 

Best wishes.

 

Happy to be yours,

p.s.ramanarayanan.

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