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Dear Vishwanatham Ji,

As per me, what " nameisego " has written is correct.There is no need to check

from Dwadashamsha or Saptamsha charts. Only Rashi charts are enough.Already Chi

Vishnu has sent his father's chart and I am doing some studies and come to a

conclusion and write back to the list very soon.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

vishwanatham <vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hare Rama KrishnaMy dear

Learned friend,The arguement put forth by you has a limitation. i'll explain

it.You take my chart and my sisters' charts. If you analyse dwadasamsa in the

charts, you may reach different conclusions. Because, it is native centric.It

is the same two individuals, from the view point of different children. That is

what i mean by limitation. Same thing may happen, if you analyse the Saptamsa of

the parents charts. Again it is the mother's view point and Ffather's view point

about their children.So, when the person is no longer there, how relevant is

that person's view point. Now, we can only speculate if he/she is still on the

Bhuloka or gone to other lokas/talas etc., On more point is the entry of

charakarakas & exit of the chara karakas?i hope i am

clear.regardsviswanadhamvedic astrology, "nameisego"

<nameisego> wrote:> > > Learned Friends,> > If we can say , looking at the

horoscope of a person that your Grand > father/Father was Great or rich or

famous person by seeing his ninth > and fifth houses, (It is possible that both

may be dead), then it is > perfectly possible to say how a dead man's poserity

will be seeing > his fifth house.> > Tatvam-Asi> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta > <gupta816>

wrote:> > > > Dear Sirs',> > > > In keeping in mind the query, and as well as

in line with it I have > then invited all your good officers' attention.> > > >

As regards to my quote from Saravali, I presume that you have over->

looked the 1st sentence out of your anxiety to reply me. Now I shall > repeat it

preciously, "The creator Brahma has written on the > foreheads of all living

beings their fates, which are deciphered by > the Astrologers "> > > > Here we

could easily understand that Saravali author means only > Horoscopes of living

beings, by his words `Written on the foreheads > of all living beings'. From

this, it is quit clear that an Astrologer > is authorized to decipher the

horoscopes of living beings only.> > > > You say that from the 5th house of the

deceased person's horoscope > we could decipher the fortunes of their progeny.

My logic is that > Lagan in a horoscope of a living being breaks the vicious

circle of > the Zodiac and pays the way for an Astrologer to decipher it. My >

question is that how can an Astrologer decipher a horoscope with out > the

Jeewan

in it? If the wishes of Maharishis' are that of your > views, they have no

reason to rock their heads to provide us > with "Ch. On lost horoscopy "> > > >

My seniors are also of the opinion that since our Vedic –Astrology > is based on

our Hindu mythology that no orthodox Hindu Astrologer > should venture on the

saythilams / remains of a deceased. > > > > With these above I conclude and

leave the rest to your choice.> > > > With regards,> >

VedapuriBaskarabandulu.D.Sathiyanarayanagupta > > > > Chandrashekhar

<boxdel> wrote:Dear Sathiyanarayana Gupta,> > I think you have missed the

point on which the original mail sought > opinions. The mail was about

predicting about children of a dead > Native and not about the dead person

himself. Personally I do not see > any reason that it should not be possible to

do so from

native's 5th > house. Death of a person does not extinguish the fortune of his >

progeny. There are many planetary combinations which indicate growth > of a

person on account of bhagya of his father. One can also assess > whether a

person will follow his father's profession form his own > horoscope, even if

the father is dead. Similarly one finds that there > are charts where

indication of growth of the Native is only possible > if he is away from his

father or after the death of father. > Conversely growth of son after

separating from native or his death > could be seen in a Native's chart. If

this is possible why should it > not be possible to see the fortune of children

from a diseased > father's chart is not clear from the description of> >

explanation of word Hora given by you.> > Would you care to explain in a bit

more details any reference

about > inability to do this in shastras? Your valued inputs would be >

appreciated much.> > Regards,> > Chandrashekhar.> > > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta

wrote:> > > > Dear sarvashree Chandersekarji,Ramadasji

&Chi.NarasimhaP.V.R.Rao,> > > > > > > > Bhrigu sutras say that for all living

beings Sun represents > positive and primal front, I have to agree to it as

energy is > required for metamorphosis.> > > > In BPHS Rishi Maitreya expresses

his longing ness to know about > Hora the general part of Jyothis, which deals

with the relationship > of the animals born on the earth with the heavenly

bodies. Here the > words `animals born' was construed by me as living beings

for the > reason paramamans and jeevans may not be present in cadavers, more >

further the Purusharthas would not recoil to it

(body) again and > again after the Sole evacuating the remains, the Purusharthas

follow > the Sole as its shadow to prepare the Sole for its next birth to >

complete its unfulfilled desires. So I reasoned that after the > separation of

the Sole from the body that how come an Astrologer > could read a horoscope

with out purusharthans in it.> > > > Saravali states as:> > Ch. 2. Meaning of

Hor#257; > > 1-5. The Creator Brahma has written on the foreheads of all living

> beings their fates, which are deciphered by the astrologers through > their

pure insight. The first and last letters in the word > Ahor#257;tra are removed

and the word Hor#257; is thus born and has > come to exist. The Zodiac and the

planets are therein, as discussed. > Some scholars say Hor#257;#347;#257;stra

is indicative of effects of > one's Karma, i.e. fate. Some call Lagna, or

half of a R#257;#347;i, > as Hor#257;. In practice the science relating to

horoscope is called > Hor#257;#347;#257;stra. Hor#257; is capable of analyzing

the destiny. > Barring this Hor#257;#347;#257;stra there is no device to help

one > earn money, to help, as a boat, to cross the ocean of unexpected >

situations and to serve, as an advisor > > > > IN JOURNY > > > > ON going

through the above I have reasoned that after the end of > the life's journey,

how come an Astrologer could read the fate. > > > > Further the poet sage

Kalidasa in his Jathakachandrika under the > ch. Rajayoga may not come, sloka

70 says that even though the > presence Rajayoga is being witnessed in an

horoscope, it becomes > useless and it would not bestow its effects later on,

after breathing > his last.> > > > It was on the foregoing I have

previously concluded that a deceased > person's horoscope is as obsolete and

redundant.> > > > Since I am not living in the Nakkeerans' era, I do not want

to > argue that your decisions are wrong; I humbly accept your decision as > a

pendulum for the present. > > > > With regards,> > > >

VedapuriBaskarabandulu.D.SathiyanarayanaGupta.> > > > > > > > > > Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > >

Dear Chandrashekhar Ji,> > > > Thanks for your mail in supporting my opinion.> >

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > >

Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: Dear Ramadas Rao,> > I tend to agree with

you.> > Regards,> > Chandrashekhar.> > > > Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > ` nmae

naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > Namaste Tattwam - Asi,> > > > When

a person is alive and from his chart everything about his > children can be

told, even the person is died, the futures of his > children are indicated in

his Horoscope.The reason behind this here > many clients are coming to me and

asking many questions in life and > when I was telling some events happened in

their Fathers'life by > looking into their charts,they agreed with me by many

events.But > during such periods,I found their Father was not alive.So If a

dead > Father's chart can be delineated from a living son/daughter's chart, >

why not from a dead father's chart reveal about the future of his > son/ s ?

Ofcourse some research has to be

done on this.> > > > These are my opinions and other may differ but still can be

tried.> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > >

> > nameisego <nameisego> wrote: > > Dear Friends,> > > > During Dhyana

yesterday night, self was confronted with this doubt > > that,> > "Can a dead

person's Horoscope indicate future events of his > > children's life?"> > > >

Undersigned will surely investigate during the course of the day > (As > > it

is 6.05 am ) and post his findings. But the ball is in your > court > > for

those of you who are in western hemisphere to dwell on this > issue.> > > >

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|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Ramesh,

 

You meant Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga?

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

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"Ramesh Gangaramani" <ramesh.gangaramani

<vedic astrology>

Saturday, September 11, 2004 8:56 PM

[vedic astrology] Kendradhipati dosha Kendradhipati, PVR.pdf [1/2]

 

 

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear ..,

> I think the dictum will apply in this case too and dosha would be

cancelled.

> Actually it will form a malavya yoga. Please see an attached article by PV

> Narasimha Rao.

> Regards

> Ramesh

>

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> monsoon_sweat [monsoon_sweat]

> Saturday, September 11, 2004 12:57 PM

> vedic astrology

> FW: [vedic astrology] Re: Jupiter in Transit Question - To All

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> hare Rama krishna,

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> Dear Ramesh,

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> What about Pisces Lagna ?? 7th house Mercury in 7th house

> Virgo.. ??

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> Kendrathibhatya dosham Exists or Not ?? thank you

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Sarajitji,

I am sorry, it was a slip. Thank you for correcting it.

Regards

Ramesh

 

 

Sarajit Poddar [sarajit]

Saturday, September 11, 2004 5:40 PM

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|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Ramesh,

 

You meant Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga?

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

-

"Ramesh Gangaramani" <ramesh.gangaramani

<vedic astrology>

Saturday, September 11, 2004 8:56 PM

[vedic astrology] Kendradhipati dosha Kendradhipati, PVR.pdf [1/2]

 

 

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear ..,

> I think the dictum will apply in this case too and dosha would be

cancelled.

> Actually it will form a malavya yoga. Please see an attached article by PV

> Narasimha Rao.

> Regards

> Ramesh

>

>

> monsoon_sweat [monsoon_sweat]

> Saturday, September 11, 2004 12:57 PM

> vedic astrology

> FW: [vedic astrology] Re: Jupiter in Transit Question - To All

> Concerned

>

>

>

> hare Rama krishna,

>

>

> Dear Ramesh,

>

>

> What about Pisces Lagna ?? 7th house Mercury in 7th house

> Virgo.. ??

>

> Kendrathibhatya dosham Exists or Not ?? thank you

>

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> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

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