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> Hello respected Guru's and learned students,

> I was wondering if you see from my own chart a marriage in the

future for me. I have been plagued by unfortunate circumstance in my

> previous 2 marriages in which I was widowed in both instances all

> before the age of 30. The first time was in April of 1985 and the

> second time was October 1992. I am including my chart details,

> please let me know if you need additional information. I am

> currently studying on my own until I feel educated enough to join

the ranks as an official student. I would like to see what exactly in

my chart determines this and if this is going to happen again or will

I not have another marriage etc.. Thank you for your insight.

>

> Warm Regards,

> Debbie Munger

>

> Debbie Munger

> Nov 18, 1963 10:33 PM +08:00 PST

> Sacramento, CA:USA Longitude: 121W30 Latitude: 38N35

> Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:21 Current Period: MA/RA/RA

>

> Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

> ================================================

> Asc 21:57 Can Aslesha Me

> Sun 02:50 Sco +01:00:34 WK Vishakha Ju

> Moon 05:14 Sag +11:55:04 WK Mula Ke

> Mars 24:33 Sco +00:44:34 ST Jyeshtha Me

> Merc 11:00 Sco +01:32:47 CM Anuradha Sa

> JuptR 16:38 Pis -00:03:18 FM U.Bhadra Sa

> Ven 23:44 Sco +01:14:46 WK Jyeshtha Me

> Sat 23:47 Cap +00:02:51 FM Dhanishtha Ma

> Rahu 18:32 Gem -00:02:11 FM Ardra Ra

> Ketu 18:32 Sag -00:02:11 FM P.Shadya Ve

>

> True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 315 beats

> Day: Monday Sunrise: 6:52 AM

> Tithi: Shukla Tritiya

> Yoga Pt: 11:24 Li Yogi:Ra AviYogi:Ve Dup Yogi: Ve

> Dagha Rashis: Leo Cap

>

> Rashi Chart

> *******************************************************

> ** 5 * * 3 **

> *6 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * RA 18:32* *

> * * * * * *

> * * 4 AS 21:57 * 2 *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** * * **

> *7 * 1 *

> ** * * **

> *8 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> *SU 02:50* * * * *

> *ME 11:00 * * * * *

> *VE 23:44 * 10 SA 23:47 * 12 JUR16:38*

> *MA 24:33 * * * * *

> * MO 05:14* * * *

> * * KE 18:32 * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** 9 * * 11 **

> *******************************************************

>

> Navamsha

> *******************************************************

> ** 11 * * 9 **

> *12* * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * MA * * * *

> * VE * * * *

> * * * * * *

> *RA * 10 AS * 8 JUR *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** * * **

> *1 * 7 ME *

> ** * * **

> *2 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> *MO * 4 SU * 6 KE *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * SA * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** 3 * * 5 **

> *******************************************************

>

>

> Khavedamsha

> *******************************************************

> ** 1 * * 11 **

> *2 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * RA * * * *

> * KE * * * *

> *VE * * * * *

> *SA * 12 AS * 10 SU *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** * * **

> *3 MA * 9 ME *

> ** * * **

> *4 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * 6 * 8 *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * JUR * * MO * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** 5 * * 7 **

> *******************************************************

>

> Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis

> ========================

> Ke/Ma 8/22/1963

> Ke/Ra 1/18/1964

> Ke/Ju 2/5/1965

> Ke/Sa 1/12/1966

> Ke/Me 2/21/1967

> Ve/Ve 2/18/1968

> Ve/Su 6/19/1971

> Ve/Mo 6/19/1972

> Ve/Ma 2/17/1974

> Ve/Ra 4/19/1975

> Ve/Ju 4/19/1978

> Ve/Sa 12/18/1980

> Ve/Me 2/18/1984

> Ve/Ke 12/19/1986

> Su/Su 2/18/1988

> Su/Mo 6/6/1988

> Su/Ma 12/6/1988

> Su/Ra 4/13/1989

> Su/Ju 3/8/1990

> Su/Sa 12/25/1990

> Su/Me 12/7/1991

> Su/Ke 10/12/1992

> Su/Ve 2/17/1993

> Mo/Mo 2/17/1994

> Mo/Ma 12/19/1994

> Mo/Ra 7/20/1995

> Mo/Ju 1/18/1997

> Mo/Sa 5/20/1998

> Mo/Me 12/19/1999

> Mo/Ke 5/19/2001

> Mo/Ve 12/18/2001

> Mo/Su 8/19/2003

> Ma/Ma 2/18/2004

> Ma/Ra 7/16/2004

> Ma/Ju 8/3/2005

> Ma/Sa 7/10/2006

> Ma/Me 8/19/2007

> Ma/Ke 8/15/2008

> Ma/Ve 1/11/2009

> Ma/Su 3/14/2010

> Ma/Mo 7/19/2010

> Ra/Ra 2/18/2011

> Ra/Ju 10/31/2013

> Ra/Sa 3/25/2016

> Ra/Me 1/30/2019

> Ra/Ke 8/19/2021

> Ra/Ve 9/6/2022

> Ra/Su 9/6/2025

> Ra/Mo 8/1/2026

> Ra/Ma 1/30/2028

> Ju/Ju 2/17/2029

> Ju/Sa 4/7/2031

> Ju/Me 10/19/2033

> Ju/Ke 1/24/2036

> Ju/Ve 12/30/2036

> Ju/Su 8/31/2039

> Ju/Mo 6/19/2040

> Ju/Ma 10/19/2041

> Ju/Ra 9/24/2042

> Sa/Sa 2/17/2045

> Sa/Me 2/21/2048

> Sa/Ke 10/31/2050

> Sa/Ve 12/10/2051

> Sa/Su 2/8/2055

> Sa/Mo 1/21/2056

> Sa/Ma 8/22/2057

> Sa/Ra 9/30/2058

> Sa/Ju 8/6/2061

> Me/Me 2/18/2064

> Me/Ke 7/16/2066

> Me/Ve 7/14/2067

> Me/Su 5/13/2070

> Me/Mo 3/20/2071

> Me/Ma 8/18/2072

> Me/Ra 8/16/2073

> Me/Ju 3/4/2076

> Me/Sa 6/10/2078

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam BuryatDebbie,I am sorry to hear about the tragedies in your

life. I am initiating a discussion based on my initial observations.In case of

females 8H signifies magalaya = marital bond, subhagya, vaidhavya = widowhood.

In D1, 8H is aspected by Mars and Rahu. In D9 the 8H has Saturn placed in it

and is aspected by Mars, Venus and Rahu.This is what Kalyan Verma has to say

"KV: Malefic in the 8th will cause widowhood. This will occur in the Dasa

periods of the Lord of the Navamsa occupied by the 8th Lord." Your 8L is

Saturn, placed in 8H in D9 in Leo rashi. Lord is Sun. 2nd tragedy occurred in

Sun-Ven-Ven dasa. (Please read functional characteristics of Venus below.)

The first case happened in Venus dasa which is a functional malefic

(kendradhipati dosha and also 11L) for Cancer Lagna. It happens to be the lord

of 2nd house from UL and hence maraka for 1st spouse. AD was that of Mercury

which is also a functional malefic (dusthana lord and trisadipati- 12L and 3L).

UL is placed 12th from AL in D1. This actually indicates 'rejection of spouse'.

I am not sure what would it mean in your case. Also this applies to the 1st

spouse. 2nd from UL is aspected by Sun, Mars, Mercury and Venus. It has rashi

drishti of Saturn. I am not sure if this would indicate premature death of the

spouse.2nd spouse/partner is seen from 8th from UL which falls in Scorpio. 2nd

from that has Moon and Ketu aspected by Rahu. Lord of this house Jupiter

however is strong and should protect the UL!In both cases ULL Mars in own house

is a favorable factor and should have given longevity to them! Other factor is

7L in D1 being in own house. Saturn usually protects the house in which it is

placed especially so in this case because it is its own house!Though 8H

affliction of D1 may indicate widowhood, I can see some positive factors too. I

would therefore like to hear views of knowledgeable members . I have attached

your chart in JHL format for the sake of convenience. I hope the birth details

are correct. Just one question please, were both spouses Martian personalities?

I am sure you know that UL would indicate a partner regardless of formal

marriage! In other words if there were other stable relationships (lasting over

a year or so) the working would change.

Before I close I must mention that 3rd marriage is seen from 9H which in your

case has Jupiter in own house!

Regards

Ramesh

the_lighted1 [m18deb (AT) aol (DOT) com]Sent:

Friday, September 10, 2004 3:49 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] I have been widowed twice and am wondering ifI will have

another chance> Hello respected Guru's and learned students,> I was wondering

if you see from my own chart a marriage in thefuture for me. I have been

plagued by unfortunate circumstance in my> previous 2 marriages in which I was

widowed in both instances all> before the age of 30. The first time was in

April of 1985 and the> second time was October 1992. I am including my chart

details,> please let me know if you need additional information. I am>

currently studying on my own until I feel educated enough to jointhe ranks as

an official student. I would like to see what exactly inmy chart determines

this and if this is going to happen again or willI not have another marriage

etc.. Thank you for your insight.>> Warm Regards,> Debbie Munger>> Debbie

Munger> Nov 18, 1963 10:33 PM +08:00 PST> Sacramento, CA:USA Longitude: 121W30

Latitude: 38N35> Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:21 Current Period: MA/RA/RA>> Planet Deg

Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord> ================================================>

Asc 21:57 Can Aslesha Me> Sun 02:50 Sco +01:00:34 WK Vishakha Ju> Moon 05:14 Sag

+11:55:04 WK Mula Ke> Mars 24:33 Sco +00:44:34 ST Jyeshtha Me> Merc 11:00 Sco

+01:32:47 CM Anuradha Sa> JuptR 16:38 Pis -00:03:18 FM U.Bhadra Sa> Ven 23:44

Sco +01:14:46 WK Jyeshtha Me> Sat 23:47 Cap +00:02:51 FM Dhanishtha Ma> Rahu

18:32 Gem -00:02:11 FM Ardra Ra> Ketu 18:32 Sag -00:02:11 FM P.Shadya Ve>> True

Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 315 beats> Day: Monday Sunrise: 6:52 AM>

Tithi: Shukla Tritiya> Yoga Pt: 11:24 Li Yogi:Ra AviYogi:Ve Dup Yogi: Ve> Dagha

Rashis: Leo Cap>> Rashi Chart>

*******************************************************> ** 5 * * 3 **> *6 * *

* * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * RA 18:32* *> * * * * * *> * * 4 AS 21:57

* 2 *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** * *

**> *7 * 1 *> ** * * **> *8 * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> *SU 02:50* * *

* *> *ME 11:00 * * * * *> *VE 23:44 * 10 SA 23:47 * 12 JUR16:38*> *MA 24:33 * *

* * *> * MO 05:14* * * *> * * KE 18:32 * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** 9

* * 11 **> *******************************************************>> Navamsha>

*******************************************************> ** 11 * * 9 **> *12* *

* * *> * * * * * *> * * MA * * * *> * VE * * * *> * * * * * *> *RA * 10 AS * 8

JUR *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** * *

**> *1 * 7 ME *> ** * * **> *2 * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * *

*> * * * * * *> *MO * 4 SU * 6 KE *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * SA * *>

* * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** 3 * * 5 **>

*******************************************************>>> Khavedamsha>

*******************************************************> ** 1 * * 11 **> *2 * *

* * *> * * * * * *> * * RA * * * *> * KE * * * *> *VE * * * * *> *SA * 12 AS *

10 SU *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** *

* **> *3 MA * 9 ME *> ** * * **> *4 * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * *

* * *> * * * * * *> * * 6 * 8 *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * JUR * * MO * *>

* * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** 5 * * 7 **>

*******************************************************>> Vimshottari

Dasha/Buktis> ========================> Ke/Ma 8/22/1963> Ke/Ra 1/18/1964> Ke/Ju

2/5/1965> Ke/Sa 1/12/1966> Ke/Me 2/21/1967> Ve/Ve 2/18/1968> Ve/Su 6/19/1971>

Ve/Mo 6/19/1972> Ve/Ma 2/17/1974> Ve/Ra 4/19/1975> Ve/Ju 4/19/1978> Ve/Sa

12/18/1980> Ve/Me 2/18/1984> Ve/Ke 12/19/1986> Su/Su 2/18/1988> Su/Mo 6/6/1988>

Su/Ma 12/6/1988> Su/Ra 4/13/1989> Su/Ju 3/8/1990> Su/Sa 12/25/1990> Su/Me

12/7/1991> Su/Ke 10/12/1992> Su/Ve 2/17/1993> Mo/Mo 2/17/1994> Mo/Ma

12/19/1994> Mo/Ra 7/20/1995> Mo/Ju 1/18/1997> Mo/Sa 5/20/1998> Mo/Me

12/19/1999> Mo/Ke 5/19/2001> Mo/Ve 12/18/2001> Mo/Su 8/19/2003> Ma/Ma

2/18/2004> Ma/Ra 7/16/2004> Ma/Ju 8/3/2005> Ma/Sa 7/10/2006> Ma/Me 8/19/2007>

Ma/Ke 8/15/2008> Ma/Ve 1/11/2009> Ma/Su 3/14/2010> Ma/Mo 7/19/2010> Ra/Ra

2/18/2011> Ra/Ju 10/31/2013> Ra/Sa 3/25/2016> Ra/Me 1/30/2019> Ra/Ke 8/19/2021>

Ra/Ve 9/6/2022> Ra/Su 9/6/2025> Ra/Mo 8/1/2026> Ra/Ma 1/30/2028> Ju/Ju

2/17/2029> Ju/Sa 4/7/2031> Ju/Me 10/19/2033> Ju/Ke 1/24/2036> Ju/Ve 12/30/2036>

Ju/Su 8/31/2039> Ju/Mo 6/19/2040> Ju/Ma 10/19/2041> Ju/Ra 9/24/2042> Sa/Sa

2/17/2045> Sa/Me 2/21/2048> Sa/Ke 10/31/2050> Sa/Ve 12/10/2051> Sa/Su 2/8/2055>

Sa/Mo 1/21/2056> Sa/Ma 8/22/2057> Sa/Ra 9/30/2058> Sa/Ju 8/6/2061> Me/Me

2/18/2064> Me/Ke 7/16/2066> Me/Ve 7/14/2067> Me/Su 5/13/2070> Me/Mo 3/20/2071>

Me/Ma 8/18/2072> Me/Ra 8/16/2073> Me/Ju 3/4/2076> Me/Sa

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Dear Debbie/Ramesh,

I would think Debbie might marry again around April 2005 and that

marriage is likely to be more fortunate. The person would be more

mature in age than Debbie, is what I think.

By the way Ramesh, Malefic owning a Kendra is Shubha if not occupying

that Kendra, Saturn is in Kendra in own house and is 8th lord too.

Chandrashekhar.

Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

Satyam Bruyat Priyam

Buryat

Debbie,

I am sorry to hear about the tragedies in your life. I am initiating a

discussion based on my initial observations.

In case of females 8H signifies magalaya = marital bond, subhagya,

vaidhavya = widowhood. In D1, 8H is aspected by Mars and Rahu. In D9

the 8H has Saturn placed in it and is aspected by Mars, Venus and Rahu.

This is what Kalyan Verma has to say "KV: Malefic in the 8th will cause

widowhood. This will occur in the Dasa periods of the Lord of the

Navamsa occupied by the 8th Lord." Your 8L is Saturn, placed in 8H in

D9 in Leo rashi. Lord is Sun. 2nd tragedy occurred in Sun-Ven-Ven dasa.

(Please read functional characteristics of Venus below.)

The first case

happened in Venus dasa which is a functional malefic (kendradhipati

dosha and also 11L) for Cancer Lagna. It happens to be the lord of 2nd

house from UL and hence maraka for 1st spouse. AD was that of Mercury

which is also a functional malefic (dusthana lord and trisadipati- 12L

and 3L).

UL is placed 12th from AL in D1. This actually indicates 'rejection of

spouse'. I am not sure what would it mean in your case. Also this

applies to the 1st spouse. 2nd from UL is aspected by Sun, Mars,

Mercury and Venus. It has rashi drishti of Saturn. I am not sure if

this would indicate premature death of the spouse.

2nd spouse/partner is seen from 8th from UL which falls in Scorpio. 2nd

from that has Moon and Ketu aspected by Rahu. Lord of this house

Jupiter however is strong and should protect the UL!

In both cases ULL Mars in own house is a favorable factor and should

have given longevity to them! Other factor is 7L in D1 being in own

house. Saturn usually protects the house in which it is placed

especially so in this case because it is its own house!

Though 8H affliction of D1 may indicate widowhood, I can see some

positive factors too. I would therefore like to hear views of

knowledgeable members . I have attached your chart in JHL format for

the sake of convenience. I hope the birth details are correct. Just one

question please, were both spouses Martian personalities? I am sure you

know that UL would indicate a partner regardless of formal marriage! In

other words if there were other stable relationships (lasting over a

year or so) the working would change.

Before I close I must mention that 3rd

marriage is seen from 9H which in your case has Jupiter in own house!

Regards

Ramesh

 

the_lighted1 [m18deb (AT) aol (DOT) com]

Friday, September 10, 2004 3:49 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] I have been widowed twice and am wondering if

I will have another chance

> Hello respected Guru's and learned students,

> I was wondering if you see from my own chart a marriage in the

future for me. I have been plagued by unfortunate circumstance in my

> previous 2 marriages in which I was widowed in both instances all

> before the age of 30. The first time was in April of 1985 and the

> second time was October 1992. I am including my chart details,

> please let me know if you need additional information. I am

> currently studying on my own until I feel educated enough to join

the ranks as an official student. I would like to see what exactly in

my chart determines this and if this is going to happen again or will

I not have another marriage etc.. Thank you for your insight.

>

> Warm Regards,

> Debbie Munger

>

> Debbie Munger

> Nov 18, 1963 10:33 PM +08:00 PST

> Sacramento, CA:USA Longitude: 121W30 Latitude: 38N35

> Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:21 Current Period: MA/RA/RA

>

> Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

> ================================================

> Asc 21:57 Can Aslesha Me

> Sun 02:50 Sco +01:00:34 WK Vishakha Ju

> Moon 05:14 Sag +11:55:04 WK Mula Ke

> Mars 24:33 Sco +00:44:34 ST Jyeshtha Me

> Merc 11:00 Sco +01:32:47 CM Anuradha Sa

> JuptR 16:38 Pis -00:03:18 FM U.Bhadra Sa

> Ven 23:44 Sco +01:14:46 WK Jyeshtha Me

> Sat 23:47 Cap +00:02:51 FM Dhanishtha Ma

> Rahu 18:32 Gem -00:02:11 FM Ardra Ra

> Ketu 18:32 Sag -00:02:11 FM P.Shadya Ve

>

> True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 315 beats

> Day: Monday Sunrise: 6:52 AM

> Tithi: Shukla Tritiya

> Yoga Pt: 11:24 Li Yogi:Ra AviYogi:Ve Dup Yogi: Ve

> Dagha Rashis: Leo Cap

>

> Rashi Chart

> *******************************************************

> ** 5 * * 3 **

> *6 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * RA 18:32* *

> * * * * * *

> * * 4 AS 21:57 * 2 *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** * * **

> *7 * 1 *

> ** * * **

> *8 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> *SU 02:50* * * * *

> *ME 11:00 * * * * *

> *VE 23:44 * 10 SA 23:47 * 12 JUR16:38*

> *MA 24:33 * * * * *

> * MO 05:14* * * *

> * * KE 18:32 * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** 9 * * 11 **

> *******************************************************

>

> Navamsha

> *******************************************************

> ** 11 * * 9 **

> *12* * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * MA * * * *

> * VE * * * *

> * * * * * *

> *RA * 10 AS * 8 JUR *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** * * **

> *1 * 7 ME *

> ** * * **

> *2 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> *MO * 4 SU * 6 KE *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * SA * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** 3 * * 5 **

> *******************************************************

>

>

> Khavedamsha

> *******************************************************

> ** 1 * * 11 **

> *2 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * RA * * * *

> * KE * * * *

> *VE * * * * *

> *SA * 12 AS * 10 SU *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** * * **

> *3 MA * 9 ME *

> ** * * **

> *4 * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * 6 * 8 *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> * * JUR * * MO * *

> * * * * * *

> * * * * * *

> ** 5 * * 7 **

> *******************************************************

>

> Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis

> ========================

> Ke/Ma 8/22/1963

> Ke/Ra 1/18/1964

> Ke/Ju 2/5/1965

> Ke/Sa 1/12/1966

> Ke/Me 2/21/1967

> Ve/Ve 2/18/1968

> Ve/Su 6/19/1971

> Ve/Mo 6/19/1972

> Ve/Ma 2/17/1974

> Ve/Ra 4/19/1975

> Ve/Ju 4/19/1978

> Ve/Sa 12/18/1980

> Ve/Me 2/18/1984

> Ve/Ke 12/19/1986

> Su/Su 2/18/1988

> Su/Mo 6/6/1988

> Su/Ma 12/6/1988

> Su/Ra 4/13/1989

> Su/Ju 3/8/1990

> Su/Sa 12/25/1990

> Su/Me 12/7/1991

> Su/Ke 10/12/1992

> Su/Ve 2/17/1993

> Mo/Mo 2/17/1994

> Mo/Ma 12/19/1994

> Mo/Ra 7/20/1995

> Mo/Ju 1/18/1997

> Mo/Sa 5/20/1998

> Mo/Me 12/19/1999

> Mo/Ke 5/19/2001

> Mo/Ve 12/18/2001

> Mo/Su 8/19/2003

> Ma/Ma 2/18/2004

> Ma/Ra 7/16/2004

> Ma/Ju 8/3/2005

> Ma/Sa 7/10/2006

> Ma/Me 8/19/2007

> Ma/Ke 8/15/2008

> Ma/Ve 1/11/2009

> Ma/Su 3/14/2010

> Ma/Mo 7/19/2010

> Ra/Ra 2/18/2011

> Ra/Ju 10/31/2013

> Ra/Sa 3/25/2016

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Dear Sunil nad Ramesh Ji,

Here is my interpretation about this lady's chart :

The Lagna is Kataka and so 7th house is Makar whose lord Shani is there who is

also 8th lord.Normally people having Kataka Lagna does not have good married

life unless Guru aspects or conjoins Shani, the 7th and 8th lord.Here 8th house

indicates Mangalya Sthana.In the chart,Guru(V) is in 9th in Meena Rashi which

does not aspect Shani instead Shani aspects Guru (V).So Guru (V) becomes

afflicted and lost the hope of saving the spouse.Also Kuja aspects her 8th

house,thus afflicting Mangalya Sthana.From Chandra Kuja is in 12th house thus

indicating she has Kuja Dosha also.Shukra is also with Kuja,thus afflicting

Vivaha Karaka.

Now here I would like to explain a new system for her widowhood using Rahu Yoni

Lagna system which has been explained to me by " nameisego ".Normally we see

during Rahu Dasha, Rahu Antara or Rahu's Pratyanatara marriage takes place.Of

course there exceptions to this also.The reason why Rahu is used here is that

he is the planet of attraction between male and female,he is Yoni mukha and he

rules over Chidras ie., openings in our body.Rahu feels comfortable in 4th

house.5th house rules Garbha Sthana.rahu is Sarpa also. Now a Sarpa can

swallow a person by widening its mouth 3times than the normal size.( here Sarpa

means Python ).Similarly when a woman delivers a child the Yoni Mukha expands to

a larger size.Hence Rahu is comapred with Yoni Mukha also as he is the ruler of

Chidras.Now let me consider Rahu as the

focal central point to explain this theory.The planets 2nd and 12th to Rahu/

Ketu are called Visha Mukha planets.Here I will give you another reason why we

have to consider these 2 houses also.Now when we consider Rahu in a particular

house,as it is retrograding its effects can be seen in the previous house,also

eventhough it is retrograding its face is forward,so it aspects the 2nd

house.So 3 houses are affected ie, the house where Rahu is placed, 12th to Rahu

and 2nd to Rahu.

Now coming to the present chart,Rahu is in Mithuna, so let us call this as Yoni

Lagna,so Vrishabha and Kataka are Visha Mukhas.AL is in Vrishabha rashi which

is in Visha Mukha. Shukra and Chandra are Visha Mukha lords.7th to Rahu is

occupied by Chandra who is the lord of Visha Mukha rashi.From Ketu,2nd is

occupied by Shani and 12th is occupied by Surya,Budha, Kuja and Shukra,thus all

these planets become Visha Mukha planets considered from Ketu and they give

normally very bad results during their Dasha- Antara Dasha etc.7th lord from

Rahu is Guru who is in 10th from Rahu who is aspected by Shani who is in 2nd

from Ketu, a Visha Mukha planet.Now in 6th from Rahu is its Lord Kuja who won

the Grha Yuddha with Shukra.As per Nadi Technics, Kuja is Pati Karaka and is

also a Visha Mukha planet considered from

Ketu.This Kuja also aspects adversely Rahu through its 8th house aspect.

Now let us consdier the Dasha - Antara Dasha when she became a widow.It was

Shukra -Budha - Kuja.( using 36 days per year 26/03/1985 to 24/05/1985 ).Shukra

is 5th and 12th lord ( Shayya Sukha Sthana ) but the lord of Visha Mukha.Budha

is the sign dispositor of Rahu but is also a Visha Mukha planet considered from

Ketu.Kuja, a Maraka is also in Visha Mukha from Ketu.The planets on either side

of Ketu will bring disaster to the spouse as Ketu is the Moksha Karaka.

The 2nd time when she became widow was during Surya - Shukra - Shukra between

15/09/1992 and 14/11/1992.Here again Surya is a Visha Mukha planet including

Shukra from Ketu and as a result her husband died.So in such a case like here

when most of the planets are in 2nd and 12th to Ketu,married life is a remote

question.Hence it is better to change her mind towards spirituality.

I hope this helps.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Debbie/Ramesh,I would think

Debbie might marry again around April 2005 and that marriage is likely to be

more fortunate. The person would be more mature in age than Debbie, is what I

think.By the way Ramesh, Malefic owning a Kendra is Shubha if not occupying

that Kendra, Saturn is in Kendra in own house and is 8th lord

too.Chandrashekhar.Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

Satyam Bruyat Priyam BuryatDebbie,I am sorry to hear about the tragedies in your

life. I am initiating a discussion based on my initial observations.In case of

females 8H signifies magalaya = marital bond, subhagya, vaidhavya = widowhood.

In D1, 8H is aspected by Mars and Rahu. In D9 the 8H has Saturn placed in it

and is aspected by Mars, Venus and Rahu.This is what Kalyan Verma has to say

"KV: Malefic in the 8th will cause widowhood. This will occur in the Dasa

periods of the Lord of the Navamsa occupied by the 8th Lord." Your 8L is

Saturn, placed in 8H in D9 in Leo rashi. Lord is Sun. 2nd tragedy occurred in

Sun-Ven-Ven dasa. (Please read functional characteristics of Venus below.)

The first case happened in Venus dasa which is a functional malefic

(kendradhipati dosha and also 11L) for Cancer Lagna. It happens to be the lord

of 2nd house from UL and hence maraka for 1st spouse. AD was that of Mercury

which is also a functional malefic (dusthana lord and trisadipati- 12L and 3L).

UL is placed 12th from AL in D1. This actually indicates 'rejection of spouse'.

I am not sure what would it mean in your case. Also this applies to the 1st

spouse. 2nd from UL is aspected by Sun, Mars, Mercury and Venus. It has rashi

drishti of Saturn. I am not sure if this would indicate premature death of the

spouse.2nd spouse/partner is seen from 8th from UL which falls in Scorpio. 2nd

from that has Moon and Ketu aspected by Rahu. Lord of this house Jupiter

however is strong and should protect the UL!In both cases ULL Mars in own house

is a favorable factor and should have given longevity to them! Other factor is

7L

in D1 being in own house. Saturn usually protects the house in which it is

placed especially so in this case because it is its own house!Though 8H

affliction of D1 may indicate widowhood, I can see some positive factors too. I

would therefore like to hear views of knowledgeable members . I have attached

your chart in JHL format for the sake of convenience. I hope the birth details

are correct. Just one question please, were both spouses Martian personalities?

I am sure you know that UL would indicate a partner regardless of formal

marriage! In other words if there were other stable relationships (lasting over

a year or so) the working would change.

Before I close I must mention that 3rd marriage is seen from 9H which in your

case has Jupiter in own house!

Regards

Ramesh

the_lighted1 [m18deb (AT) aol (DOT) com]Sent:

Friday, September 10, 2004 3:49 AMvedic astrologySubject:

[vedic astrology] I have been widowed twice and am wondering ifI will have

another chance> Hello respected Guru's and learned students,> I was wondering

if you see from my own chart a marriage in thefuture for me. I have been

plagued by unfortunate circumstance in my> previous 2 marriages in which I was

widowed in both instances all> before the age of 30. The first time was in

April of 1985 and the> second time was October 1992. I am including my chart

details,> please let me know if you need additional information. I am>

currently studying on my own until I feel educated enough to jointhe ranks as an

official student. I would like to see what exactly inmy chart determines this

and if this is going to happen again or willI not have another marriage etc..

Thank you for your insight.>> Warm Regards,> Debbie Munger>> Debbie Munger> Nov

18, 1963 10:33 PM +08:00 PST> Sacramento, CA:USA Longitude: 121W30 Latitude:

38N35> Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:21 Current Period: MA/RA/RA>> Planet Deg Sign Speed

SA Nakshatra Lord> ================================================> Asc 21:57

Can Aslesha Me> Sun 02:50 Sco +01:00:34 WK Vishakha Ju> Moon 05:14 Sag

+11:55:04 WK Mula Ke> Mars 24:33 Sco +00:44:34 ST Jyeshtha Me> Merc 11:00 Sco

+01:32:47 CM Anuradha Sa> JuptR 16:38 Pis -00:03:18 FM U.Bhadra Sa> Ven 23:44

Sco +01:14:46 WK Jyeshtha Me> Sat 23:47 Cap +00:02:51 FM

Dhanishtha Ma> Rahu 18:32 Gem -00:02:11 FM Ardra Ra> Ketu 18:32 Sag -00:02:11 FM

P.Shadya Ve>> True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 315 beats> Day: Monday

Sunrise: 6:52 AM> Tithi: Shukla Tritiya> Yoga Pt: 11:24 Li Yogi:Ra AviYogi:Ve

Dup Yogi: Ve> Dagha Rashis: Leo Cap>> Rashi Chart>

*******************************************************> ** 5 * * 3 **> *6 * *

* * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * RA 18:32* *> * * * * * *> * * 4 AS 21:57

* 2 *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** * *

**> *7 * 1 *> ** * * **> *8 * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> *SU 02:50* * *

* *> *ME 11:00 * * * * *> *VE 23:44 * 10 SA 23:47 * 12 JUR16:38*> *MA 24:33 * *

* * *> * MO 05:14* * * *> * * KE 18:32 * * * *> * * * * *

*> * * * * * *> ** 9 * * 11 **>

*******************************************************>> Navamsha>

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* * *> * * * * * *> * * MA * * * *> * VE * * * *> * * * * * *> *RA * 10 AS * 8

JUR *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** * *

**> *1 * 7 ME *> ** * * **> *2 * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * *

*> * * * * * *> *MO * 4 SU * 6 KE *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * SA * *>

* * * * * *> * * * * * *> ** 3 * * 5 **>

*******************************************************>>> Khavedamsha>

*******************************************************> ** 1 * * 11 **> *2 * *

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*> ** * * **> *4 * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *>

* * 6 * 8 *> * * * * * *> * * * * * *> * * JUR * * MO * *> * * * * * *> * * * *

* *> ** 5 * * 7 **> *******************************************************>>

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1/18/1964> Ke/Ju 2/5/1965> Ke/Sa 1/12/1966> Ke/Me 2/21/1967> Ve/Ve 2/18/1968>

Ve/Su 6/19/1971> Ve/Mo 6/19/1972> Ve/Ma 2/17/1974> Ve/Ra 4/19/1975> Ve/Ju

4/19/1978> Ve/Sa 12/18/1980> Ve/Me 2/18/1984> Ve/Ke 12/19/1986> Su/Su

2/18/1988> Su/Mo 6/6/1988> Su/Ma 12/6/1988> Su/Ra 4/13/1989> Su/Ju 3/8/1990>

Su/Sa 12/25/1990> Su/Me 12/7/1991> Su/Ke 10/12/1992> Su/Ve 2/17/1993> Mo/Mo

2/17/1994> Mo/Ma 12/19/1994> Mo/Ra 7/20/1995> Mo/Ju 1/18/1997> Mo/Sa 5/20/1998>

Mo/Me 12/19/1999> Mo/Ke 5/19/2001> Mo/Ve 12/18/2001> Mo/Su 8/19/2003> Ma/Ma

2/18/2004> Ma/Ra 7/16/2004> Ma/Ju 8/3/2005> Ma/Sa 7/10/2006> Ma/Me 8/19/2007>

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Atmasnehi Ramadasa ji,

 

Excellent analysis using HP theory.

Self is indebted to you for using it correctly.

Did you see how easy it is to interprete any horoscope for any event

by just orienting the horoscopic Rahu position ?

 

There is some thing more startling which self would bring out which

will establish rationale behind Aroodha Lagna Theory based on Rahu

centric HP theory.

 

Deeply appreciative for your correct understanding of HP.

 

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vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao>

wrote:

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

>

> Dear Sunil nad Ramesh Ji,

>

> Here is my interpretation about this lady's chart :

>

> The Lagna is Kataka and so 7th house is Makar whose lord Shani is

there who is also 8th lord.Normally people having Kataka Lagna does

not have good married life unless Guru aspects or conjoins Shani, the

7th and 8th lord.Here 8th house indicates Mangalya Sthana.In the

chart,Guru(V) is in 9th in Meena Rashi which does not aspect Shani

instead Shani aspects Guru (V).So Guru (V) becomes afflicted and lost

the hope of saving the spouse.Also Kuja aspects her 8th house,thus

afflicting Mangalya Sthana.From Chandra Kuja is in 12th house thus

indicating she has Kuja Dosha also.Shukra is also with Kuja,thus

afflicting Vivaha Karaka.

>

> Now here I would like to explain a new system for her widowhood

using Rahu Yoni Lagna system which has been explained to me by "

nameisego ".Normally we see during Rahu Dasha, Rahu Antara or Rahu's

Pratyanatara marriage takes place.Of course there exceptions to this

also.The reason why Rahu is used here is that he is the planet of

attraction between male and female,he is Yoni mukha and he rules over

Chidras ie., openings in our body.Rahu feels comfortable in 4th

house.5th house rules Garbha Sthana.rahu is Sarpa also. Now a Sarpa

can swallow a person by widening its mouth 3times than the normal

size.( here Sarpa means Python ).Similarly when a woman delivers a

child the Yoni Mukha expands to a larger size.Hence Rahu is comapred

with Yoni Mukha also as he is the ruler of Chidras.Now let me

consider Rahu as the focal central point to explain this theory.The

planets 2nd and 12th to Rahu/ Ketu are called Visha Mukha

planets.Here I will give you another reason why we have to consider

> these 2 houses also.Now when we consider Rahu in a particular

house,as it is retrograding its effects can be seen in the previous

house,also eventhough it is retrograding its face is forward,so it

aspects the 2nd house.So 3 houses are affected ie, the house where

Rahu is placed, 12th to Rahu and 2nd to Rahu.

>

> Now coming to the present chart,Rahu is in Mithuna, so let us call

this as Yoni Lagna,so Vrishabha and Kataka are Visha Mukhas.AL is in

Vrishabha rashi which is in Visha Mukha. Shukra and Chandra are Visha

Mukha lords.7th to Rahu is occupied by Chandra who is the lord of

Visha Mukha rashi.From Ketu,2nd is occupied by Shani and 12th is

occupied by Surya,Budha, Kuja and Shukra,thus all these planets

become Visha Mukha planets considered from Ketu and they give

normally very bad results during their Dasha- Antara Dasha etc.7th

lord from Rahu is Guru who is in 10th from Rahu who is aspected by

Shani who is in 2nd from Ketu, a Visha Mukha planet.Now in 6th from

Rahu is its Lord Kuja who won the Grha Yuddha with Shukra.As per Nadi

Technics, Kuja is Pati Karaka and is also a Visha Mukha planet

considered from Ketu.This Kuja also aspects adversely Rahu through

its 8th house aspect.

>

> Now let us consdier the Dasha - Antara Dasha when she became a

widow.It was Shukra -Budha - Kuja.( using 36 days per year 26/03/1985

to 24/05/1985 ).Shukra is 5th and 12th lord ( Shayya Sukha Sthana )

but the lord of Visha Mukha.Budha is the sign dispositor of Rahu but

is also a Visha Mukha planet considered from Ketu.Kuja, a Maraka is

also in Visha Mukha from Ketu.The planets on either side of Ketu will

bring disaster to the spouse as Ketu is the Moksha Karaka.

>

> The 2nd time when she became widow was during Surya - Shukra -

Shukra between 15/09/1992 and 14/11/1992.Here again Surya is a Visha

Mukha planet including Shukra from Ketu and as a result her husband

died.So in such a case like here when most of the planets are in 2nd

and 12th to Ketu,married life is a remote question.Hence it is better

to change her mind towards spirituality.

>

> I hope this helps.

>

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

>

> Ramadas Rao.

>

>

>

> Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: Dear Debbie/Ramesh,

> I would think Debbie might marry again around April 2005 and that

marriage is likely to be more fortunate. The person would be more

mature in age than Debbie, is what I think.

> By the way Ramesh, Malefic owning a Kendra is Shubha if not

occupying that Kendra, Saturn is in Kendra in own house and is 8th

lord too.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Buryat

>

> Debbie,

>

> I am sorry to hear about the tragedies in your life. I am

initiating a discussion based on my initial observations.

> In case of females 8H signifies magalaya = marital bond, subhagya,

vaidhavya = widowhood. In D1, 8H is aspected by Mars and Rahu. In D9

the 8H has Saturn placed in it and is aspected by Mars, Venus and

Rahu.

>

> This is what Kalyan Verma has to say "KV: Malefic in the 8th will

cause widowhood. This will occur in the Dasa periods of the Lord of

the Navamsa occupied by the 8th Lord." Your 8L is Saturn, placed in

8H in D9 in Leo rashi. Lord is Sun. 2nd tragedy occurred in Sun-Ven-

Ven dasa. (Please read functional characteristics of Venus below.)

>

> The first case happened in Venus dasa which is a functional malefic

(kendradhipati dosha and also 11L) for Cancer Lagna. It happens to be

the lord of 2nd house from UL and hence maraka for 1st spouse. AD was

that of Mercury which is also a functional malefic (dusthana lord and

trisadipati- 12L and 3L).

>

> UL is placed 12th from AL in D1. This actually indicates 'rejection

of spouse'. I am not sure what would it mean in your case. Also this

applies to the 1st spouse. 2nd from UL is aspected by Sun, Mars,

Mercury and Venus. It has rashi drishti of Saturn. I am not sure if

this would indicate premature death of the spouse.

>

> 2nd spouse/partner is seen from 8th from UL which falls in Scorpio.

2nd from that has Moon and Ketu aspected by Rahu. Lord of this house

Jupiter however is strong and should protect the UL!

>

> In both cases ULL Mars in own house is a favorable factor and

should have given longevity to them! Other factor is 7L in D1 being

in own house. Saturn usually protects the house in which it is placed

especially so in this case because it is its own house!

>

> Though 8H affliction of D1 may indicate widowhood, I can see some

positive factors too. I would therefore like to hear views of

knowledgeable members . I have attached your chart in JHL format for

the sake of convenience. I hope the birth details are correct. Just

one question please, were both spouses Martian personalities? I am

sure you know that UL would indicate a partner regardless of formal

marriage! In other words if there were other stable relationships

(lasting over a year or so) the working would change.

>

> Before I close I must mention that 3rd marriage is seen from 9H

which in your case has Jupiter in own house!

>

> Regards

>

> Ramesh

>

>

>

>

> the_lighted1 [m18deb@a...]

> Friday, September 10, 2004 3:49 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] I have been widowed twice and am

wondering if

> I will have another chance

>

>

> > Hello respected Guru's and learned students,

> > I was wondering if you see from my own chart a marriage in the

> future for me. I have been plagued by unfortunate circumstance in my

> > previous 2 marriages in which I was widowed in both instances all

> > before the age of 30. The first time was in April of 1985 and the

> > second time was October 1992. I am including my chart details,

> > please let me know if you need additional information. I am

> > currently studying on my own until I feel educated enough to join

> the ranks as an official student. I would like to see what exactly

in

> my chart determines this and if this is going to happen again or

will

> I not have another marriage etc.. Thank you for your insight.

> >

> > Warm Regards,

> > Debbie Munger

> >

> > Debbie Munger

> > Nov 18, 1963 10:33 PM +08:00 PST

> > Sacramento, CA:USA Longitude: 121W30 Latitude: 38N35

> > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:21 Current Period: MA/RA/RA

> >

> > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

> > ================================================

> > Asc 21:57 Can Aslesha Me

> > Sun 02:50 Sco +01:00:34 WK Vishakha Ju

> > Moon 05:14 Sag +11:55:04 WK Mula Ke

> > Mars 24:33 Sco +00:44:34 ST Jyeshtha Me

> > Merc 11:00 Sco +01:32:47 CM Anuradha Sa

> > JuptR 16:38 Pis -00:03:18 FM U.Bhadra Sa

> > Ven 23:44 Sco +01:14:46 WK Jyeshtha Me

> > Sat 23:47 Cap +00:02:51 FM Dhanishtha Ma

> > Rahu 18:32 Gem -00:02:11 FM Ardra Ra

> > Ketu 18:32 Sag -00:02:11 FM P.Shadya Ve

> >

> > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 315 beats

> > Day: Monday Sunrise: 6:52 AM

> > Tithi: Shukla Tritiya

> > Yoga Pt: 11:24 Li Yogi:Ra AviYogi:Ve Dup Yogi: Ve

> > Dagha Rashis: Leo Cap

> >

> > Rashi Chart

> > *******************************************************

> > ** 5 * * 3 **

> > *6 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * RA 18:32* *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * 4 AS 21:57 * 2 *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > ** * * **

> > *7 * 1 *

> > ** * * **

> > *8 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > *SU 02:50* * * * *

> > *ME 11:00 * * * * *

> > *VE 23:44 * 10 SA 23:47 * 12 JUR16:38*

> > *MA 24:33 * * * * *

> > * MO 05:14* * * *

> > * * KE 18:32 * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > ** 9 * * 11 **

> > *******************************************************

> >

> > Navamsha

> > *******************************************************

> > ** 11 * * 9 **

> > *12* * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * MA * * * *

> > * VE * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > *RA * 10 AS * 8 JUR *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > ** * * **

> > *1 * 7 ME *

> > ** * * **

> > *2 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > *MO * 4 SU * 6 KE *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * SA * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > ** 3 * * 5 **

> > *******************************************************

> >

> >

> > Khavedamsha

> > *******************************************************

> > ** 1 * * 11 **

> > *2 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * RA * * * *

> > * KE * * * *

> > *VE * * * * *

> > *SA * 12 AS * 10 SU *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > ** * * **

> > *3 MA * 9 ME *

> > ** * * **

> > *4 * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * 6 * 8 *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * JUR * * MO * *

> > * * * * * *

> > * * * * * *

> > ** 5 * * 7 **

> > *******************************************************

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> > ========================

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> > Ke/Ra 1/18/1964

> > Ke/Ju 2/5/1965

> > Ke/Sa 1/12/1966

> > Ke/Me 2/21/1967

> > Ve/Ve 2/18/1968

> > Ve/Su 6/19/1971

> > Ve/Mo 6/19/1972

> > Ve/Ma 2/17/1974

> > Ve/Ra 4/19/1975

> > Ve/Ju 4/19/1978

> > Ve/Sa 12/18/1980

> > Ve/Me 2/18/1984

> > Ve/Ke 12/19/1986

> > Su/Su 2/18/1988

> > Su/Mo 6/6/1988

> > Su/Ma 12/6/1988

> > Su/Ra 4/13/1989

> > Su/Ju 3/8/1990

> > Su/Sa 12/25/1990

> > Su/Me 12/7/1991

> > Su/Ke 10/12/1992

> > Su/Ve 2/17/1993

> > Mo/Mo 2/17/1994

> > Mo/Ma 12/19/1994

> > Mo/Ra 7/20/1995

> > Mo/Ju 1/18/1997

> > Mo/Sa 5/20/1998

> > Mo/Me 12/19/1999

> > Mo/Ke 5/19/2001

> > Mo/Ve 12/18/2001

> > Mo/Su 8/19/2003

> > Ma/Ma 2/18/2004

> > Ma/Ra 7/16/2004

> > Ma/Ju 8/3/2005

> > Ma/Sa 7/10/2006

> > Ma/Me 8/19/2007

> > Ma/Ke 8/15/2008

> > Ma/Ve 1/11/2009

> > Ma/Su 3/14/2010

> > Ma/Mo 7/19/2010

> > Ra/Ra 2/18/2011

> > Ra/Ju 10/31/2013

> > Ra/Sa 3/25/2016

> > Ra/Me 1/30/2019

> > Ra/Ke 8/19/2021

> > Ra/Ve 9/6/2022

> > Ra/Su 9/6/2025

> > Ra/Mo 8/1/2026

> > Ra/Ma 1/30/2028

> > Ju/Ju 2/17/2029

> > Ju/Sa 4/7/2031

> > Ju/Me 10/19/2033

> > Ju/Ke 1/24/2036

> > Ju/Ve 12/30/2036

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Hello Debbie:

 

Thanks for being bold and truthful and sharing the additional

information, it helps the Jyotish greatly.

 

Now, here is a prediction I had done for you on the Jagannath board

when I didn't know ANYTHING about your personal life and I just noted

that some of the things I had told you were true--here is an excerpt

from my reading:

____________________

"Hello Deborah:

 

You've not entered a new dasa, but a new antardasa in the maha (main)

dasa of Mars.

 

Your Rahu is placed in the 12th house from Lagna so it is expected to

give you problems. Rahu in 12th USUSALLY gives health problems and

related confinement, litigation and related punishment, sexual

excesses and related results like unwanted pregnancies, STD, etc."

____________________

 

You've told us about your extra-marital affair which I had predicted

that are the results of 12th house Rahu. You also told us

about "unwanted" pregnancies that I had predicted which also are a

result indifference to societal norms, which in turn are a result of

12th house Rahu.

 

The saving grace is Rahu's placement in a favorable rashi in Gemini.

Rahu's 12th house placement let you astray and Rahu's benefical

placement in Gemini brough a sense of self-awareness in you which

will lead to self-improvement. Had the 12th house Rahu placed in a

rashi bad for Rahu such as Saggitarius or Pices, it would have ruined

your life.

 

See, the old sages knew what they were talking about when they wrote

up all these dictums.--They do come true.

 

Well, this gives me a small shot of confidence in my predicting

ability.

 

Now, the issue at hand is for the GURUS to come up with a remedy

that'll bring some peace in your life. Let's hope some GURUS take up

the challenge.

 

Mukund

 

 

vedic astrology, "the_lighted1" <m18deb@a...>

wrote:

> Hello,

> I just wanted to include some relevant information in regard to my

> chart that may be useful. I thought that I posted earlier but I

> guess that I did it wrong because I don't see it. I thank everyone

> for their insight and am using it to understand my chart better,

> Thanks again.

>

> I was married the first time on December 20th, 1981 the same year

> that I graduated from high school and had a son on June 8th, 1982.

I

> separated from my husband in May of 1983 and was having an extra

> marital affair and my husband whom I had filed for divorce from and

> was in a different relationship himself killed himself by shooting

> himself in the head with a rifle in the back yard of his mother's

> home on April 25, 1984

>

> My second marriage was May 17th, 1989. I had a son by him prior to

> the marriage on August 30th 1987 and another son after we were

> married on September 6th, 1989. That husband was a severe

alcoholic

> who was very abusive and I separated from him less than a year

after

> we were married but never filed for a divorce. The day I kicked

him

> out was January 20th 1990 and he died of the delirium tremens which

> are the DT's caused by withdraw from alcohol on October 14, 1992.

> That was the day before his 34th birthday.

>

> Other things that may be of interest are that my two youngest sons

> have been raised by my mother and father since July of 1992. This

> was voluntarily at first when I was financially not able to do so,

> but as time went by my mother did what she could to prevent my sons

> from living with me and discouraged them to do so. I do see them

all

> of the time but my mother I feel betrayed me in not encouraging my

> sons to want to live with me and we have had a very strained

> relationship.

>

> thanks again,

> Debbie

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

<boxdel>

> wrote:

> > Dear Ramesh,

> > Saturn becomes Shubha being in own house and attracts

Kendradhipati

> > dosha, thus giving some bad results related to one's Lagna if in

> 7th.

> > Being 8th Lord in 7th he is also capable of harming the

indications

> of

> > 7th house. These two are separate issues and need to be viewed as

> such.

> > I would say the problems in marriage could arise out of either

not

> > being able to communicate with spouse or due to a somewhat

negative

> view

> > of looking at things and suspicious nature.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

> >

> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekharji,

> > > Thank you for your comments and for pointing out that Saturn is

> 8L

> > > too. I want to understand the earlier comment of yours. Does it

> imply

> > > that Saturn in this case will not be shubha though placed in

own

> house

> > > or because it is placed in own house? Will the dictum

of 'Saturn

> > > protects the house in which it is placed' get diluted because

it

> is

> > > own house?

> > > Kind regards

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > >

> > > ** Chandrashekhar [boxdel]

> > > *Sent:* Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:30 AM

> > > *To:* Ramesh Gangaramani

> > > *Cc:* vedic astrology

> > > *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] I have been widowed twice

> and am

> > > wondering if I will have another chance

> > >

> > > Dear Debbie/Ramesh,

> > > I would think Debbie might marry again around April 2005

and

> that

> > > marriage is likely to be more fortunate. The person would

be

> more

> > > mature in age than Debbie, is what I think.

> > > By the way Ramesh, Malefic owning a Kendra is Shubha if not

> > > occupying that Kendra, Saturn is in Kendra in own house

and

> is

> > > 8th lord too.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

> > >

> > >> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Buryat

> > >>

> > >> Debbie,

> > >>

> > >> I am sorry to hear about the tragedies in your life. I am

> > >> initiating a discussion based on my initial observations.

> > >> In case of females 8H signifies magalaya = marital bond,

> > >> subhagya, vaidhavya = widowhood. In D1, 8H is aspected by

> Mars

> > >> and Rahu. In D9 the 8H has Saturn placed in it and is

> aspected by

> > >> Mars, Venus and Rahu.

> > >>

> > >> This is what Kalyan Verma has to say "KV: Malefic in the

8th

> will

> > >> cause widowhood. This will occur in the Dasa periods of

the

> Lord

> > >> of the Navamsa occupied by the 8th Lord." Your 8L is

Saturn,

> > >> placed in 8H in D9 in Leo rashi. Lord is Sun. 2nd tragedy

> > >> occurred in Sun-Ven-Ven dasa. (Please read functional

> > >> characteristics of Venus below.)

> > >>

> > >> The first case happened in Venus dasa which is a functional

> > >> malefic (kendradhipati dosha and also 11L) for Cancer

Lagna.

> It

> > >> happens to be the lord of 2nd house from UL and hence

maraka

> for

> > >> 1st spouse. AD was that of Mercury which is also a

functional

> > >> malefic (dusthana lord and trisadipati- 12L and 3L).

> > >>

> > >> UL is placed 12th from AL in D1. This actually indicates

> > >> 'rejection of spouse'. I am not sure what would it mean in

> your

> > >> case. Also this applies to the 1st spouse. 2nd from UL is

> > >> aspected by Sun, Mars, Mercury and Venus. It has rashi

> drishti of

> > >> Saturn. I am not sure if this would indicate premature

death

> of

> > >> the spouse.

> > >>

> > >> 2nd spouse/partner is seen from 8th from UL which falls in

> > >> Scorpio. 2nd from that has Moon and Ketu aspected by Rahu.

> Lord

> > >> of this house Jupiter however is strong and should protect

> the UL!

> > >>

> > >> In both cases ULL Mars in own house is a favorable factor

and

> > >> should have given longevity to them! Other factor is 7L in

D1

> > >> being in own house. Saturn usually protects the house in

> which it

> > >> is placed especially so in this case because it is its own

> house!

> > >>

> > >> Though 8H affliction of D1 may indicate widowhood, I can

see

> some

> > >> positive factors too. I would therefore like to hear views

of

> > >> knowledgeable members . I have attached your chart in JHL

> format

> > >> for the sake of convenience. I hope the birth details are

> > >> correct. Just one question please, were both spouses

Martian

> > >> personalities? I am sure you know that UL would indicate a

> > >> partner regardless of formal marriage! In other words if

> there

> > >> were other stable relationships (lasting over a year or

so)

> the

> > >> working would change.

> > >>

> > >> Before I close I must mention that 3rd marriage is seen

from

> 9H

> > >> which in your case has Jupiter in own house!

> > >>

> > >> Regards

> > >>

> > >> Ramesh

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> the_lighted1 [m18deb@a...]

> > >> Friday, September 10, 2004 3:49 AM

> > >> vedic astrology

> > >> [vedic astrology] I have been widowed twice and am

> > >> wondering if

> > >> I will have another chance

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> > Hello respected Guru's and learned students,

> > >> > I was wondering if you see from my own chart a marriage

in

> the

> > >> future for me. I have been plagued by unfortunate

> circumstance in my

> > >> > previous 2 marriages in which I was widowed in both

> instances all

> > >> > before the age of 30. The first time was in April of

1985

> and the

> > >> > second time was October 1992. I am including my chart

> details,

> > >> > please let me know if you need additional information. I

am

> > >> > currently studying on my own until I feel educated

enough

> to join

> > >> the ranks as an official student. I would like to see what

> exactly in

> > >> my chart determines this and if this is going to happen

> again or will

> > >> I not have another marriage etc.. Thank you for your

insight.

> > >> >

> > >> > Warm Regards,

> > >> > Debbie Munger

> > >> >

> > >> > Debbie Munger

> > >> > Nov 18, 1963 10:33 PM +08:00 PST

> > >> > Sacramento, CA:USA Longitude: 121W30 Latitude: 38N35

> > >> > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:21 Current Period: MA/RA/RA

> > >> >

> > >> > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

> > >> > ================================================

> > >> > Asc 21:57 Can Aslesha Me

> > >> > Sun 02:50 Sco +01:00:34 WK Vishakha Ju

> > >> > Moon 05:14 Sag +11:55:04 WK Mula Ke

> > >> > Mars 24:33 Sco +00:44:34 ST Jyeshtha Me

> > >> > Merc 11:00 Sco +01:32:47 CM Anuradha Sa

> > >> > JuptR 16:38 Pis -00:03:18 FM U.Bhadra Sa

> > >> > Ven 23:44 Sco +01:14:46 WK Jyeshtha Me

> > >> > Sat 23:47 Cap +00:02:51 FM Dhanishtha Ma

> > >> > Rahu 18:32 Gem -00:02:11 FM Ardra Ra

> > >> > Ketu 18:32 Sag -00:02:11 FM P.Shadya Ve

> > >> >

> > >> > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 315 beats

> > >> > Day: Monday Sunrise: 6:52 AM

> > >> > Tithi: Shukla Tritiya

> > >> > Yoga Pt: 11:24 Li Yogi:Ra AviYogi:Ve Dup Yogi: Ve

> > >> > Dagha Rashis: Leo Cap

> > >> >

> > >> > Rashi Chart

> > >> > *******************************************************

> > >> > ** 5 * * 3 **

> > >> > *6 * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * RA 18:32* *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * 4 AS 21:57 * 2 *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > ** * * **

> > >> > *7 * 1 *

> > >> > ** * * **

> > >> > *8 * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > *SU 02:50* * * * *

> > >> > *ME 11:00 * * * * *

> > >> > *VE 23:44 * 10 SA 23:47 * 12 JUR16:38*

> > >> > *MA 24:33 * * * * *

> > >> > * MO 05:14* * * *

> > >> > * * KE 18:32 * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > ** 9 * * 11 **

> > >> > *******************************************************

> > >> >

> > >> > Navamsha

> > >> > *******************************************************

> > >> > ** 11 * * 9 **

> > >> > *12* * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * MA * * * *

> > >> > * VE * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > *RA * 10 AS * 8 JUR *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > ** * * **

> > >> > *1 * 7 ME *

> > >> > ** * * **

> > >> > *2 * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > *MO * 4 SU * 6 KE *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * SA * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > ** 3 * * 5 **

> > >> > *******************************************************

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > Khavedamsha

> > >> > *******************************************************

> > >> > ** 1 * * 11 **

> > >> > *2 * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * RA * * * *

> > >> > * KE * * * *

> > >> > *VE * * * * *

> > >> > *SA * 12 AS * 10 SU *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > ** * * **

> > >> > *3 MA * 9 ME *

> > >> > ** * * **

> > >> > *4 * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * 6 * 8 *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * JUR * * MO * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > ** 5 * * 7 **

> > >> > *******************************************************

> > >> >

> > >> > Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis

> > >> > ========================

> > >> > Ke/Ma 8/22/1963

> > >> > Ke/Ra 1/18/1964

> > >> > Ke/Ju 2/5/1965

> > >> > Ke/Sa 1/12/1966

> > >> > Ke/Me 2/21/1967

> > >> > Ve/Ve 2/18/1968

> > >> > Ve/Su 6/19/1971

> > >> > Ve/Mo 6/19/1972

> > >> > Ve/Ma 2/17/1974

> > >> > Ve/Ra 4/19/1975

> > >> > Ve/Ju 4/19/1978

> > >> > Ve/Sa 12/18/1980

> > >> > Ve/Me 2/18/1984

> > >> > Ve/Ke 12/19/1986

> > >> > Su/Su 2/18/1988

> > >> > Su/Mo 6/6/1988

> > >> > Su/Ma 12/6/1988

> > >> > Su/Ra 4/13/1989

> > >> > Su/Ju 3/8/1990

> > >> > Su/Sa 12/25/1990

> > >> > Su/Me 12/7/1991

> > >> > Su/Ke 10/12/1992

> > >> > Su/Ve 2/17/1993

> > >> > Mo/Mo 2/17/1994

> > >> > Mo/Ma 12/19/1994

> > >> > Mo/Ra 7/20/1995

> > >> > Mo/Ju 1/18/1997

> > >> > Mo/Sa 5/20/1998

> > >> > Mo/Me 12/19/1999

> > >> > Mo/Ke 5/19/2001

> > >> > Mo/Ve 12/18/2001

> > >> > Mo/Su 8/19/2003

> > >> > Ma/Ma 2/18/2004

> > >> > Ma/Ra 7/16/2004

> > >> > Ma/Ju 8/3/2005

> > >> > Ma/Sa 7/10/2006

> > >> > Ma/Me 8/19/2007

> > >> > Ma/Ke 8/15/2008

> > >> > Ma/Ve 1/11/2009

> > >> > Ma/Su 3/14/2010

> > >> > Ma/Mo 7/19/2010

> > >> > Ra/Ra 2/18/2011

> > >> > Ra/Ju 10/31/2013

> > >> > Ra/Sa 3/25/2016

> > >> > Ra/Me 1/30/2019

> > >> > Ra/Ke 8/19/2021

> > >> > Ra/Ve 9/6/2022

> > >> > Ra/Su 9/6/2025

> > >> > Ra/Mo 8/1/2026

> > >> > Ra/Ma 1/30/2028

> > >> > Ju/Ju 2/17/2029

> > >> > Ju/Sa 4/7/2031

> > >> > Ju/Me 10/19/2033

> > >> > Ju/Ke 1/24/2036

> > >> > Ju/Ve 12/30/2036

> > >> > Ju/Su 8/31/2039

> > >> > Ju/Mo 6/19/2040

> > >> > Ju/Ma 10/19/2041

> > >> > Ju/Ra 9/24/2042

> > >> > Sa/Sa 2/17/2045

> > >> > Sa/Me 2/21/2048

> > >> > Sa/Ke 10/31/2050

> > >> > Sa/Ve 12/10/2051

> > >> > Sa/Su 2/8/2055

> > >> > Sa/Mo 1/21/2056

> > >> > Sa/Ma 8/22/2057

> > >> > Sa/Ra 9/30/2058

> > >> > Sa/Ju 8/6/2061

> > >> > Me/Me 2/18/2064

> > >> > Me/Ke 7/16/2066

> > >> > Me/Ve 7/14/2067

> > >> > Me/Su 5/13/2070

> > >> > Me/Mo 3/20/2071

> > >> > Me/Ma 8/18/2072

> > >> > Me/Ra 8/16/2073

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One more lethal combination I noted in your horoscope--Rahu in 12th

is also placed with Gulika and Mandi. Gulika indicates

the poison you have to drink (like Shiva and save the world) while

Mandi indicates the poison you give to others like Rudra(Violent form

of Shiva).

 

You "extra-marital affair" was the poison (Mandi) that you gave to

your first husband. Thereafter, your bad karma caught-up with you and

you had to drink poison (Gulika) in form of your abusive and

alcoholic second husband.--See, one's karma (bad or good) always

catches up with him/her; if not in this life, then in the next life.

 

The remedy is to perform karma that personify Siva's driking of

poison to save the Earth,i.e. not hurting others even when they hurt

you would constitue "driking of poison."

 

You have some good combinations in your horoscope as well. Yours is a

very interesting horoscope, some of the Kind Gurus have done various

in-depth analysis for you, hope you read/printed out all of them.

 

Mukund

 

vedic astrology, "the_lighted1" <m18deb@a...>

wrote:

> Hello,

> I just wanted to include some relevant information in regard to my

> chart that may be useful. I thought that I posted earlier but I

> guess that I did it wrong because I don't see it. I thank everyone

> for their insight and am using it to understand my chart better,

> Thanks again.

>

> I was married the first time on December 20th, 1981 the same year

> that I graduated from high school and had a son on June 8th, 1982.

I

> separated from my husband in May of 1983 and was having an extra

> marital affair and my husband whom I had filed for divorce from and

> was in a different relationship himself killed himself by shooting

> himself in the head with a rifle in the back yard of his mother's

> home on April 25, 1984

>

> My second marriage was May 17th, 1989. I had a son by him prior to

> the marriage on August 30th 1987 and another son after we were

> married on September 6th, 1989. That husband was a severe

alcoholic

> who was very abusive and I separated from him less than a year

after

> we were married but never filed for a divorce. The day I kicked

him

> out was January 20th 1990 and he died of the delirium tremens which

> are the DT's caused by withdraw from alcohol on October 14, 1992.

> That was the day before his 34th birthday.

>

> Other things that may be of interest are that my two youngest sons

> have been raised by my mother and father since July of 1992. This

> was voluntarily at first when I was financially not able to do so,

> but as time went by my mother did what she could to prevent my sons

> from living with me and discouraged them to do so. I do see them

all

> of the time but my mother I feel betrayed me in not encouraging my

> sons to want to live with me and we have had a very strained

> relationship.

>

> thanks again,

> Debbie

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

<boxdel>

> wrote:

> > Dear Ramesh,

> > Saturn becomes Shubha being in own house and attracts

Kendradhipati

> > dosha, thus giving some bad results related to one's Lagna if in

> 7th.

> > Being 8th Lord in 7th he is also capable of harming the

indications

> of

> > 7th house. These two are separate issues and need to be viewed as

> such.

> > I would say the problems in marriage could arise out of either

not

> > being able to communicate with spouse or due to a somewhat

negative

> view

> > of looking at things and suspicious nature.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

> >

> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekharji,

> > > Thank you for your comments and for pointing out that Saturn is

> 8L

> > > too. I want to understand the earlier comment of yours. Does it

> imply

> > > that Saturn in this case will not be shubha though placed in

own

> house

> > > or because it is placed in own house? Will the dictum

of 'Saturn

> > > protects the house in which it is placed' get diluted because

it

> is

> > > own house?

> > > Kind regards

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > >

> > > ** Chandrashekhar [boxdel]

> > > *Sent:* Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:30 AM

> > > *To:* Ramesh Gangaramani

> > > *Cc:* vedic astrology

> > > *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] I have been widowed twice

> and am

> > > wondering if I will have another chance

> > >

> > > Dear Debbie/Ramesh,

> > > I would think Debbie might marry again around April 2005

and

> that

> > > marriage is likely to be more fortunate. The person would

be

> more

> > > mature in age than Debbie, is what I think.

> > > By the way Ramesh, Malefic owning a Kendra is Shubha if not

> > > occupying that Kendra, Saturn is in Kendra in own house

and

> is

> > > 8th lord too.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

> > >

> > >> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Buryat

> > >>

> > >> Debbie,

> > >>

> > >> I am sorry to hear about the tragedies in your life. I am

> > >> initiating a discussion based on my initial observations.

> > >> In case of females 8H signifies magalaya = marital bond,

> > >> subhagya, vaidhavya = widowhood. In D1, 8H is aspected by

> Mars

> > >> and Rahu. In D9 the 8H has Saturn placed in it and is

> aspected by

> > >> Mars, Venus and Rahu.

> > >>

> > >> This is what Kalyan Verma has to say "KV: Malefic in the

8th

> will

> > >> cause widowhood. This will occur in the Dasa periods of

the

> Lord

> > >> of the Navamsa occupied by the 8th Lord." Your 8L is

Saturn,

> > >> placed in 8H in D9 in Leo rashi. Lord is Sun. 2nd tragedy

> > >> occurred in Sun-Ven-Ven dasa. (Please read functional

> > >> characteristics of Venus below.)

> > >>

> > >> The first case happened in Venus dasa which is a functional

> > >> malefic (kendradhipati dosha and also 11L) for Cancer

Lagna.

> It

> > >> happens to be the lord of 2nd house from UL and hence

maraka

> for

> > >> 1st spouse. AD was that of Mercury which is also a

functional

> > >> malefic (dusthana lord and trisadipati- 12L and 3L).

> > >>

> > >> UL is placed 12th from AL in D1. This actually indicates

> > >> 'rejection of spouse'. I am not sure what would it mean in

> your

> > >> case. Also this applies to the 1st spouse. 2nd from UL is

> > >> aspected by Sun, Mars, Mercury and Venus. It has rashi

> drishti of

> > >> Saturn. I am not sure if this would indicate premature

death

> of

> > >> the spouse.

> > >>

> > >> 2nd spouse/partner is seen from 8th from UL which falls in

> > >> Scorpio. 2nd from that has Moon and Ketu aspected by Rahu.

> Lord

> > >> of this house Jupiter however is strong and should protect

> the UL!

> > >>

> > >> In both cases ULL Mars in own house is a favorable factor

and

> > >> should have given longevity to them! Other factor is 7L in

D1

> > >> being in own house. Saturn usually protects the house in

> which it

> > >> is placed especially so in this case because it is its own

> house!

> > >>

> > >> Though 8H affliction of D1 may indicate widowhood, I can

see

> some

> > >> positive factors too. I would therefore like to hear views

of

> > >> knowledgeable members . I have attached your chart in JHL

> format

> > >> for the sake of convenience. I hope the birth details are

> > >> correct. Just one question please, were both spouses

Martian

> > >> personalities? I am sure you know that UL would indicate a

> > >> partner regardless of formal marriage! In other words if

> there

> > >> were other stable relationships (lasting over a year or

so)

> the

> > >> working would change.

> > >>

> > >> Before I close I must mention that 3rd marriage is seen

from

> 9H

> > >> which in your case has Jupiter in own house!

> > >>

> > >> Regards

> > >>

> > >> Ramesh

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> the_lighted1 [m18deb@a...]

> > >> Friday, September 10, 2004 3:49 AM

> > >> vedic astrology

> > >> [vedic astrology] I have been widowed twice and am

> > >> wondering if

> > >> I will have another chance

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> > Hello respected Guru's and learned students,

> > >> > I was wondering if you see from my own chart a marriage

in

> the

> > >> future for me. I have been plagued by unfortunate

> circumstance in my

> > >> > previous 2 marriages in which I was widowed in both

> instances all

> > >> > before the age of 30. The first time was in April of

1985

> and the

> > >> > second time was October 1992. I am including my chart

> details,

> > >> > please let me know if you need additional information. I

am

> > >> > currently studying on my own until I feel educated

enough

> to join

> > >> the ranks as an official student. I would like to see what

> exactly in

> > >> my chart determines this and if this is going to happen

> again or will

> > >> I not have another marriage etc.. Thank you for your

insight.

> > >> >

> > >> > Warm Regards,

> > >> > Debbie Munger

> > >> >

> > >> > Debbie Munger

> > >> > Nov 18, 1963 10:33 PM +08:00 PST

> > >> > Sacramento, CA:USA Longitude: 121W30 Latitude: 38N35

> > >> > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:21 Current Period: MA/RA/RA

> > >> >

> > >> > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

> > >> > ================================================

> > >> > Asc 21:57 Can Aslesha Me

> > >> > Sun 02:50 Sco +01:00:34 WK Vishakha Ju

> > >> > Moon 05:14 Sag +11:55:04 WK Mula Ke

> > >> > Mars 24:33 Sco +00:44:34 ST Jyeshtha Me

> > >> > Merc 11:00 Sco +01:32:47 CM Anuradha Sa

> > >> > JuptR 16:38 Pis -00:03:18 FM U.Bhadra Sa

> > >> > Ven 23:44 Sco +01:14:46 WK Jyeshtha Me

> > >> > Sat 23:47 Cap +00:02:51 FM Dhanishtha Ma

> > >> > Rahu 18:32 Gem -00:02:11 FM Ardra Ra

> > >> > Ketu 18:32 Sag -00:02:11 FM P.Shadya Ve

> > >> >

> > >> > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 315 beats

> > >> > Day: Monday Sunrise: 6:52 AM

> > >> > Tithi: Shukla Tritiya

> > >> > Yoga Pt: 11:24 Li Yogi:Ra AviYogi:Ve Dup Yogi: Ve

> > >> > Dagha Rashis: Leo Cap

> > >> >

> > >> > Rashi Chart

> > >> > *******************************************************

> > >> > ** 5 * * 3 **

> > >> > *6 * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * RA 18:32* *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * 4 AS 21:57 * 2 *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > ** * * **

> > >> > *7 * 1 *

> > >> > ** * * **

> > >> > *8 * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > *SU 02:50* * * * *

> > >> > *ME 11:00 * * * * *

> > >> > *VE 23:44 * 10 SA 23:47 * 12 JUR16:38*

> > >> > *MA 24:33 * * * * *

> > >> > * MO 05:14* * * *

> > >> > * * KE 18:32 * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > ** 9 * * 11 **

> > >> > *******************************************************

> > >> >

> > >> > Navamsha

> > >> > *******************************************************

> > >> > ** 11 * * 9 **

> > >> > *12* * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * MA * * * *

> > >> > * VE * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > *RA * 10 AS * 8 JUR *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > ** * * **

> > >> > *1 * 7 ME *

> > >> > ** * * **

> > >> > *2 * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > *MO * 4 SU * 6 KE *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * SA * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > ** 3 * * 5 **

> > >> > *******************************************************

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > Khavedamsha

> > >> > *******************************************************

> > >> > ** 1 * * 11 **

> > >> > *2 * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * RA * * * *

> > >> > * KE * * * *

> > >> > *VE * * * * *

> > >> > *SA * 12 AS * 10 SU *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > ** * * **

> > >> > *3 MA * 9 ME *

> > >> > ** * * **

> > >> > *4 * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * 6 * 8 *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * JUR * * MO * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > * * * * * *

> > >> > ** 5 * * 7 **

> > >> > *******************************************************

> > >> >

> > >> > Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis

> > >> > ========================

> > >> > Ke/Ma 8/22/1963

> > >> > Ke/Ra 1/18/1964

> > >> > Ke/Ju 2/5/1965

> > >> > Ke/Sa 1/12/1966

> > >> > Ke/Me 2/21/1967

> > >> > Ve/Ve 2/18/1968

> > >> > Ve/Su 6/19/1971

> > >> > Ve/Mo 6/19/1972

> > >> > Ve/Ma 2/17/1974

> > >> > Ve/Ra 4/19/1975

> > >> > Ve/Ju 4/19/1978

> > >> > Ve/Sa 12/18/1980

> > >> > Ve/Me 2/18/1984

> > >> > Ve/Ke 12/19/1986

> > >> > Su/Su 2/18/1988

> > >> > Su/Mo 6/6/1988

> > >> > Su/Ma 12/6/1988

> > >> > Su/Ra 4/13/1989

> > >> > Su/Ju 3/8/1990

> > >> > Su/Sa 12/25/1990

> > >> > Su/Me 12/7/1991

> > >> > Su/Ke 10/12/1992

> > >> > Su/Ve 2/17/1993

> > >> > Mo/Mo 2/17/1994

> > >> > Mo/Ma 12/19/1994

> > >> > Mo/Ra 7/20/1995

> > >> > Mo/Ju 1/18/1997

> > >> > Mo/Sa 5/20/1998

> > >> > Mo/Me 12/19/1999

> > >> > Mo/Ke 5/19/2001

> > >> > Mo/Ve 12/18/2001

> > >> > Mo/Su 8/19/2003

> > >> > Ma/Ma 2/18/2004

> > >> > Ma/Ra 7/16/2004

> > >> > Ma/Ju 8/3/2005

> > >> > Ma/Sa 7/10/2006

> > >> > Ma/Me 8/19/2007

> > >> > Ma/Ke 8/15/2008

> > >> > Ma/Ve 1/11/2009

> > >> > Ma/Su 3/14/2010

> > >> > Ma/Mo 7/19/2010

> > >> > Ra/Ra 2/18/2011

> > >> > Ra/Ju 10/31/2013

> > >> > Ra/Sa 3/25/2016

> > >> > Ra/Me 1/30/2019

> > >> > Ra/Ke 8/19/2021

> > >> > Ra/Ve 9/6/2022

> > >> > Ra/Su 9/6/2025

> > >> > Ra/Mo 8/1/2026

> > >> > Ra/Ma 1/30/2028

> > >> > Ju/Ju 2/17/2029

> > >> > Ju/Sa 4/7/2031

> > >> > Ju/Me 10/19/2033

> > >> > Ju/Ke 1/24/2036

> > >> > Ju/Ve 12/30/2036

> > >> > Ju/Su 8/31/2039

> > >> > Ju/Mo 6/19/2040

> > >> > Ju/Ma 10/19/2041

> > >> > Ju/Ra 9/24/2042

> > >> > Sa/Sa 2/17/2045

> > >> > Sa/Me 2/21/2048

> > >> > Sa/Ke 10/31/2050

> > >> > Sa/Ve 12/10/2051

> > >> > Sa/Su 2/8/2055

> > >> > Sa/Mo 1/21/2056

> > >> > Sa/Ma 8/22/2057

> > >> > Sa/Ra 9/30/2058

> > >> > Sa/Ju 8/6/2061

> > >> > Me/Me 2/18/2064

> > >> > Me/Ke 7/16/2066

> > >> > Me/Ve 7/14/2067

> > >> > Me/Su 5/13/2070

> > >> > Me/Mo 3/20/2071

> > >> > Me/Ma 8/18/2072

> > >> > Me/Ra 8/16/2073

> > >> > Me/Ju 3/4/2076

> > >> > Me/Sa 6/10/2078

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Mukundji & list,

 

It may not be the best interest of a Jyotishi to apply any dictum

blindfold. It was during my Rahu's bhukti I found secure re-

employment and realization of a long-term wish to have a second

child, giving the direction to a seeming disarray of things for a 3

yr period. Only caveat which 'may' fit with your list is that I

suffered for a 5 month period with severe shoulder pain (Jan -

May '04) that the doctor called as 'Muscular spasm' and I was banned

from taking medicines too since I had conceived my child. But this

miraculously disappeared with no treatment in mid-May, so the doctor

reversed the plate as 'no spasm'. This too, I bet, is more of

transit results as Meena Rasi has been in a kind of 'Grahana' for

sometime now with Rahu in 2nd, Ketu in 8, Jupiter (till recently) in

6, Sani in Ardhashtaka. I *never* faced any other bad-stuff listed

due to 12th house Rahu, but I can say I have a tendency to blame

myself for no mistake on my part and feel unnecessarily guilty

sometimes.

 

Best regards,

 

Jayashree

 

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> Hello Debbie:

>

> Thanks for being bold and truthful and sharing the additional

> information, it helps the Jyotish greatly.

>

> Now, here is a prediction I had done for you on the Jagannath

board

> when I didn't know ANYTHING about your personal life and I just

noted

> that some of the things I had told you were true--here is an

excerpt

> from my reading:

>

___________________

_

> "Hello Deborah:

>

> You've not entered a new dasa, but a new antardasa in the maha

(main)

> dasa of Mars.

>

> Your Rahu is placed in the 12th house from Lagna so it is expected

to

> give you problems. Rahu in 12th USUSALLY gives health problems and

> related confinement, litigation and related punishment, sexual

> excesses and related results like unwanted pregnancies, STD, etc."

>

___________________

_

>

> You've told us about your extra-marital affair which I had

predicted

> that are the results of 12th house Rahu. You also told us

> about "unwanted" pregnancies that I had predicted which also are a

> result indifference to societal norms, which in turn are a result

of

> 12th house Rahu.

>

> The saving grace is Rahu's placement in a favorable rashi in

Gemini.

> Rahu's 12th house placement let you astray and Rahu's benefical

> placement in Gemini brough a sense of self-awareness in you which

> will lead to self-improvement. Had the 12th house Rahu placed in a

> rashi bad for Rahu such as Saggitarius or Pices, it would have

ruined

> your life.

>

> See, the old sages knew what they were talking about when they

wrote

> up all these dictums.--They do come true.

>

> Well, this gives me a small shot of confidence in my predicting

> ability.

>

> Now, the issue at hand is for the GURUS to come up with a remedy

> that'll bring some peace in your life. Let's hope some GURUS take

up

> the challenge.

>

> Mukund

>

>

> vedic astrology, "the_lighted1"

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> wrote:

> > Hello,

> > I just wanted to include some relevant information in regard to

my

> > chart that may be useful. I thought that I posted earlier but I

> > guess that I did it wrong because I don't see it. I thank

everyone

> > for their insight and am using it to understand my chart

better,

> > Thanks again.

> >

> > I was married the first time on December 20th, 1981 the same

year

> > that I graduated from high school and had a son on June 8th,

1982.

> I

> > separated from my husband in May of 1983 and was having an extra

> > marital affair and my husband whom I had filed for divorce from

and

> > was in a different relationship himself killed himself by

shooting

> > himself in the head with a rifle in the back yard of his

mother's

> > home on April 25, 1984

> >

> > My second marriage was May 17th, 1989. I had a son by him prior

to

> > the marriage on August 30th 1987 and another son after we were

> > married on September 6th, 1989. That husband was a severe

> alcoholic

> > who was very abusive and I separated from him less than a year

> after

> > we were married but never filed for a divorce. The day I kicked

> him

> > out was January 20th 1990 and he died of the delirium tremens

which

> > are the DT's caused by withdraw from alcohol on October 14,

1992.

> > That was the day before his 34th birthday.

> >

> > Other things that may be of interest are that my two youngest

sons

> > have been raised by my mother and father since July of 1992.

This

> > was voluntarily at first when I was financially not able to do

so,

> > but as time went by my mother did what she could to prevent my

sons

> > from living with me and discouraged them to do so. I do see them

> all

> > of the time but my mother I feel betrayed me in not encouraging

my

> > sons to want to live with me and we have had a very strained

> > relationship.

> >

> > thanks again,

> > Debbie

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> <boxdel>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > Saturn becomes Shubha being in own house and attracts

> Kendradhipati

> > > dosha, thus giving some bad results related to one's Lagna if

in

> > 7th.

> > > Being 8th Lord in 7th he is also capable of harming the

> indications

> > of

> > > 7th house. These two are separate issues and need to be viewed

as

> > such.

> > > I would say the problems in marriage could arise out of

either

> not

> > > being able to communicate with spouse or due to a somewhat

> negative

> > view

> > > of looking at things and suspicious nature.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

> > >

> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekharji,

> > > > Thank you for your comments and for pointing out that Saturn

is

> > 8L

> > > > too. I want to understand the earlier comment of yours. Does

it

> > imply

> > > > that Saturn in this case will not be shubha though placed in

> own

> > house

> > > > or because it is placed in own house? Will the dictum

> of 'Saturn

> > > > protects the house in which it is placed' get diluted

because

> it

> > is

> > > > own house?

> > > > Kind regards

> > > > Ramesh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ** Chandrashekhar [boxdel]

> > > > *Sent:* Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:30 AM

> > > > *To:* Ramesh Gangaramani

> > > > *Cc:* vedic astrology

> > > > *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] I have been widowed

twice

> > and am

> > > > wondering if I will have another chance

> > > >

> > > > Dear Debbie/Ramesh,

> > > > I would think Debbie might marry again around April 2005

> and

> > that

> > > > marriage is likely to be more fortunate. The person

would

> be

> > more

> > > > mature in age than Debbie, is what I think.

> > > > By the way Ramesh, Malefic owning a Kendra is Shubha if

not

> > > > occupying that Kendra, Saturn is in Kendra in own house

> and

> > is

> > > > 8th lord too.

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

> > > >

> > > >> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Buryat

> > > >>

> > > >> Debbie,

> > > >>

> > > >> I am sorry to hear about the tragedies in your life. I

am

> > > >> initiating a discussion based on my initial

observations.

> > > >> In case of females 8H signifies magalaya = marital bond,

> > > >> subhagya, vaidhavya = widowhood. In D1, 8H is aspected

by

> > Mars

> > > >> and Rahu. In D9 the 8H has Saturn placed in it and is

> > aspected by

> > > >> Mars, Venus and Rahu.

> > > >>

> > > >> This is what Kalyan Verma has to say "KV: Malefic in

the

> 8th

> > will

> > > >> cause widowhood. This will occur in the Dasa periods of

> the

> > Lord

> > > >> of the Navamsa occupied by the 8th Lord." Your 8L is

> Saturn,

> > > >> placed in 8H in D9 in Leo rashi. Lord is Sun. 2nd

tragedy

> > > >> occurred in Sun-Ven-Ven dasa. (Please read functional

> > > >> characteristics of Venus below.)

> > > >>

> > > >> The first case happened in Venus dasa which is a

functional

> > > >> malefic (kendradhipati dosha and also 11L) for Cancer

> Lagna.

> > It

> > > >> happens to be the lord of 2nd house from UL and hence

> maraka

> > for

> > > >> 1st spouse. AD was that of Mercury which is also a

> functional

> > > >> malefic (dusthana lord and trisadipati- 12L and 3L).

> > > >>

> > > >> UL is placed 12th from AL in D1. This actually indicates

> > > >> 'rejection of spouse'. I am not sure what would it mean

in

> > your

> > > >> case. Also this applies to the 1st spouse. 2nd from UL

is

> > > >> aspected by Sun, Mars, Mercury and Venus. It has rashi

> > drishti of

> > > >> Saturn. I am not sure if this would indicate premature

> death

> > of

> > > >> the spouse.

> > > >>

> > > >> 2nd spouse/partner is seen from 8th from UL which falls

in

> > > >> Scorpio. 2nd from that has Moon and Ketu aspected by

Rahu.

> > Lord

> > > >> of this house Jupiter however is strong and should

protect

> > the UL!

> > > >>

> > > >> In both cases ULL Mars in own house is a favorable

factor

> and

> > > >> should have given longevity to them! Other factor is 7L

in

> D1

> > > >> being in own house. Saturn usually protects the house

in

> > which it

> > > >> is placed especially so in this case because it is its

own

> > house!

> > > >>

> > > >> Though 8H affliction of D1 may indicate widowhood, I

can

> see

> > some

> > > >> positive factors too. I would therefore like to hear

views

> of

> > > >> knowledgeable members . I have attached your chart in

JHL

> > format

> > > >> for the sake of convenience. I hope the birth details

are

> > > >> correct. Just one question please, were both spouses

> Martian

> > > >> personalities? I am sure you know that UL would

indicate a

> > > >> partner regardless of formal marriage! In other words

if

> > there

> > > >> were other stable relationships (lasting over a year or

> so)

> > the

> > > >> working would change.

> > > >>

> > > >> Before I close I must mention that 3rd marriage is seen

> from

> > 9H

> > > >> which in your case has Jupiter in own house!

> > > >>

> > > >> Regards

> > > >>

> > > >> Ramesh

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> the_lighted1 [m18deb@a...]

> > > >> Friday, September 10, 2004 3:49 AM

> > > >> vedic astrology

> > > >> [vedic astrology] I have been widowed twice

and am

> > > >> wondering if

> > > >> I will have another chance

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> > Hello respected Guru's and learned students,

> > > >> > I was wondering if you see from my own chart a

marriage

> in

> > the

> > > >> future for me. I have been plagued by unfortunate

> > circumstance in my

> > > >> > previous 2 marriages in which I was widowed in both

> > instances all

> > > >> > before the age of 30. The first time was in April of

> 1985

> > and the

> > > >> > second time was October 1992. I am including my chart

> > details,

> > > >> > please let me know if you need additional

information. I

> am

> > > >> > currently studying on my own until I feel educated

> enough

> > to join

> > > >> the ranks as an official student. I would like to see

what

> > exactly in

> > > >> my chart determines this and if this is going to happen

> > again or will

> > > >> I not have another marriage etc.. Thank you for your

> insight.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Warm Regards,

> > > >> > Debbie Munger

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Debbie Munger

> > > >> > Nov 18, 1963 10:33 PM +08:00 PST

> > > >> > Sacramento, CA:USA Longitude: 121W30 Latitude: 38N35

> > > >> > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:21 Current Period: MA/RA/RA

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

> > > >> > ================================================

> > > >> > Asc 21:57 Can Aslesha Me

> > > >> > Sun 02:50 Sco +01:00:34 WK Vishakha Ju

> > > >> > Moon 05:14 Sag +11:55:04 WK Mula Ke

> > > >> > Mars 24:33 Sco +00:44:34 ST Jyeshtha Me

> > > >> > Merc 11:00 Sco +01:32:47 CM Anuradha Sa

> > > >> > JuptR 16:38 Pis -00:03:18 FM U.Bhadra Sa

> > > >> > Ven 23:44 Sco +01:14:46 WK Jyeshtha Me

> > > >> > Sat 23:47 Cap +00:02:51 FM Dhanishtha Ma

> > > >> > Rahu 18:32 Gem -00:02:11 FM Ardra Ra

> > > >> > Ketu 18:32 Sag -00:02:11 FM P.Shadya Ve

> > > >> >

> > > >> > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 315 beats

> > > >> > Day: Monday Sunrise: 6:52 AM

> > > >> > Tithi: Shukla Tritiya

> > > >> > Yoga Pt: 11:24 Li Yogi:Ra AviYogi:Ve Dup Yogi: Ve

> > > >> > Dagha Rashis: Leo Cap

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Rashi Chart

> > > >> >

*******************************************************

> > > >> > ** 5 * * 3 **

> > > >> > *6 * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * RA 18:32* *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * 4 AS 21:57 * 2 *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > ** * * **

> > > >> > *7 * 1 *

> > > >> > ** * * **

> > > >> > *8 * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > *SU 02:50* * * * *

> > > >> > *ME 11:00 * * * * *

> > > >> > *VE 23:44 * 10 SA 23:47 * 12 JUR16:38*

> > > >> > *MA 24:33 * * * * *

> > > >> > * MO 05:14* * * *

> > > >> > * * KE 18:32 * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > ** 9 * * 11 **

> > > >> >

*******************************************************

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Navamsha

> > > >> >

*******************************************************

> > > >> > ** 11 * * 9 **

> > > >> > *12* * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * MA * * * *

> > > >> > * VE * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > *RA * 10 AS * 8 JUR *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > ** * * **

> > > >> > *1 * 7 ME *

> > > >> > ** * * **

> > > >> > *2 * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > *MO * 4 SU * 6 KE *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * SA * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > ** 3 * * 5 **

> > > >> >

*******************************************************

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Khavedamsha

> > > >> >

*******************************************************

> > > >> > ** 1 * * 11 **

> > > >> > *2 * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * RA * * * *

> > > >> > * KE * * * *

> > > >> > *VE * * * * *

> > > >> > *SA * 12 AS * 10 SU *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > ** * * **

> > > >> > *3 MA * 9 ME *

> > > >> > ** * * **

> > > >> > *4 * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * 6 * 8 *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * JUR * * MO * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > ** 5 * * 7 **

> > > >> >

*******************************************************

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis

> > > >> > ========================

> > > >> > Ke/Ma 8/22/1963

> > > >> > Ke/Ra 1/18/1964

> > > >> > Ke/Ju 2/5/1965

> > > >> > Ke/Sa 1/12/1966

> > > >> > Ke/Me 2/21/1967

> > > >> > Ve/Ve 2/18/1968

> > > >> > Ve/Su 6/19/1971

> > > >> > Ve/Mo 6/19/1972

> > > >> > Ve/Ma 2/17/1974

> > > >> > Ve/Ra 4/19/1975

> > > >> > Ve/Ju 4/19/1978

> > > >> > Ve/Sa 12/18/1980

> > > >> > Ve/Me 2/18/1984

> > > >> > Ve/Ke 12/19/1986

> > > >> > Su/Su 2/18/1988

> > > >> > Su/Mo 6/6/1988

> > > >> > Su/Ma 12/6/1988

> > > >> > Su/Ra 4/13/1989

> > > >> > Su/Ju 3/8/1990

> > > >> > Su/Sa 12/25/1990

> > > >> > Su/Me 12/7/1991

> > > >> > Su/Ke 10/12/1992

> > > >> > Su/Ve 2/17/1993

> > > >> > Mo/Mo 2/17/1994

> > > >> > Mo/Ma 12/19/1994

> > > >> > Mo/Ra 7/20/1995

> > > >> > Mo/Ju 1/18/1997

> > > >> > Mo/Sa 5/20/1998

> > > >> > Mo/Me 12/19/1999

> > > >> > Mo/Ke 5/19/2001

> > > >> > Mo/Ve 12/18/2001

> > > >> > Mo/Su 8/19/2003

> > > >> > Ma/Ma 2/18/2004

> > > >> > Ma/Ra 7/16/2004

> > > >> > Ma/Ju 8/3/2005

> > > >> > Ma/Sa 7/10/2006

> > > >> > Ma/Me 8/19/2007

> > > >> > Ma/Ke 8/15/2008

> > > >> > Ma/Ve 1/11/2009

> > > >> > Ma/Su 3/14/2010

> > > >> > Ma/Mo 7/19/2010

> > > >> > Ra/Ra 2/18/2011

> > > >> > Ra/Ju 10/31/2013

> > > >> > Ra/Sa 3/25/2016

> > > >> > Ra/Me 1/30/2019

> > > >> > Ra/Ke 8/19/2021

> > > >> > Ra/Ve 9/6/2022

> > > >> > Ra/Su 9/6/2025

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> > > >> > Ra/Ma 1/30/2028

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Hello Mukund,

Thanks for ur meaning of the Sanskrit words. Kind of u.

 

If i may add in Debbies case.

One more thing with the association of Rahu with Gulika is that

someone in the family gets bitten by a snake or consumes poison or

food poisioning. The person who suffers is the person who is

troubling the native in this life. I presume the person can be some

previous life also, am not sure.

 

The lady of the chart confirmed the ameatuer analysis/prediction in a

private email that her husband was bitten by a rattle snake. If

others have charts of Rahu with Gulika, etc pls pass it on so that we

can access this rules percentage success.

 

Also, I do not know if Rahu in the 12th means extramarital affairs,

wouldnt Navamsa indicate more clearly and confirmation from Nav

should be done. In her case Nav says it clearly I presume.

 

Just some thoughts for exchange.

 

Best wishes,

 

SJ

 

P.S: Chandrashekharji thanks for ur analysis,

To list, all thank you letters are being sent privately.

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:

> Hello Debbie:

>

> One more lethal combination I noted in your horoscope--Rahu in 12th

> is also placed with Gulika and Mandi. Gulika indicates

> the poison you have to drink (like Shiva and save the world) while

> Mandi indicates the poison you give to others like Rudra(Violent

form

> of Shiva).

>

> You "extra-marital affair" was the poison (Mandi) that you gave to

> your first husband. Thereafter, your bad karma caught-up with you

and

> you had to drink poison (Gulika) in form of your abusive and

> alcoholic second husband.--See, one's karma (bad or good) always

> catches up with him/her; if not in this life, then in the next life.

>

> The remedy is to perform karma that personify Siva's driking of

> poison to save the Earth,i.e. not hurting others even when they

hurt

> you would constitue "driking of poison."

>

> You have some good combinations in your horoscope as well. Yours is

a

> very interesting horoscope, some of the Kind Gurus have done

various

> in-depth analysis for you, hope you read/printed out all of them.

>

> Mukund

>

> vedic astrology, "the_lighted1"

<m18deb@a...>

> wrote:

> > Hello,

> > I just wanted to include some relevant information in regard to

my

> > chart that may be useful. I thought that I posted earlier but I

> > guess that I did it wrong because I don't see it. I thank

everyone

> > for their insight and am using it to understand my chart better,

> > Thanks again.

> >

> > I was married the first time on December 20th, 1981 the same year

> > that I graduated from high school and had a son on June 8th,

1982.

> I

> > separated from my husband in May of 1983 and was having an extra

> > marital affair and my husband whom I had filed for divorce from

and

> > was in a different relationship himself killed himself by

shooting

> > himself in the head with a rifle in the back yard of his mother's

> > home on April 25, 1984

> >

> > My second marriage was May 17th, 1989. I had a son by him prior

to

> > the marriage on August 30th 1987 and another son after we were

> > married on September 6th, 1989. That husband was a severe

> alcoholic

> > who was very abusive and I separated from him less than a year

> after

> > we were married but never filed for a divorce. The day I kicked

> him

> > out was January 20th 1990 and he died of the delirium tremens

which

> > are the DT's caused by withdraw from alcohol on October 14,

1992.

> > That was the day before his 34th birthday.

> >

> > Other things that may be of interest are that my two youngest

sons

> > have been raised by my mother and father since July of 1992.

This

> > was voluntarily at first when I was financially not able to do

so,

> > but as time went by my mother did what she could to prevent my

sons

> > from living with me and discouraged them to do so. I do see them

> all

> > of the time but my mother I feel betrayed me in not encouraging

my

> > sons to want to live with me and we have had a very strained

> > relationship.

> >

> > thanks again,

> > Debbie

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> <boxdel>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > Saturn becomes Shubha being in own house and attracts

> Kendradhipati

> > > dosha, thus giving some bad results related to one's Lagna if

in

> > 7th.

> > > Being 8th Lord in 7th he is also capable of harming the

> indications

> > of

> > > 7th house. These two are separate issues and need to be viewed

as

> > such.

> > > I would say the problems in marriage could arise out of either

> not

> > > being able to communicate with spouse or due to a somewhat

> negative

> > view

> > > of looking at things and suspicious nature.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

> > >

> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekharji,

> > > > Thank you for your comments and for pointing out that Saturn

is

> > 8L

> > > > too. I want to understand the earlier comment of yours. Does

it

> > imply

> > > > that Saturn in this case will not be shubha though placed in

> own

> > house

> > > > or because it is placed in own house? Will the dictum

> of 'Saturn

> > > > protects the house in which it is placed' get diluted because

> it

> > is

> > > > own house?

> > > > Kind regards

> > > > Ramesh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ** Chandrashekhar [boxdel]

> > > > *Sent:* Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:30 AM

> > > > *To:* Ramesh Gangaramani

> > > > *Cc:* vedic astrology

> > > > *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] I have been widowed

twice

> > and am

> > > > wondering if I will have another chance

> > > >

> > > > Dear Debbie/Ramesh,

> > > > I would think Debbie might marry again around April 2005

> and

> > that

> > > > marriage is likely to be more fortunate. The person would

> be

> > more

> > > > mature in age than Debbie, is what I think.

> > > > By the way Ramesh, Malefic owning a Kendra is Shubha if

not

> > > > occupying that Kendra, Saturn is in Kendra in own house

> and

> > is

> > > > 8th lord too.

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

> > > >

> > > >> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Buryat

> > > >>

> > > >> Debbie,

> > > >>

> > > >> I am sorry to hear about the tragedies in your life. I am

> > > >> initiating a discussion based on my initial observations.

> > > >> In case of females 8H signifies magalaya = marital bond,

> > > >> subhagya, vaidhavya = widowhood. In D1, 8H is aspected

by

> > Mars

> > > >> and Rahu. In D9 the 8H has Saturn placed in it and is

> > aspected by

> > > >> Mars, Venus and Rahu.

> > > >>

> > > >> This is what Kalyan Verma has to say "KV: Malefic in the

> 8th

> > will

> > > >> cause widowhood. This will occur in the Dasa periods of

> the

> > Lord

> > > >> of the Navamsa occupied by the 8th Lord." Your 8L is

> Saturn,

> > > >> placed in 8H in D9 in Leo rashi. Lord is Sun. 2nd tragedy

> > > >> occurred in Sun-Ven-Ven dasa. (Please read functional

> > > >> characteristics of Venus below.)

> > > >>

> > > >> The first case happened in Venus dasa which is a

functional

> > > >> malefic (kendradhipati dosha and also 11L) for Cancer

> Lagna.

> > It

> > > >> happens to be the lord of 2nd house from UL and hence

> maraka

> > for

> > > >> 1st spouse. AD was that of Mercury which is also a

> functional

> > > >> malefic (dusthana lord and trisadipati- 12L and 3L).

> > > >>

> > > >> UL is placed 12th from AL in D1. This actually indicates

> > > >> 'rejection of spouse'. I am not sure what would it mean

in

> > your

> > > >> case. Also this applies to the 1st spouse. 2nd from UL is

> > > >> aspected by Sun, Mars, Mercury and Venus. It has rashi

> > drishti of

> > > >> Saturn. I am not sure if this would indicate premature

> death

> > of

> > > >> the spouse.

> > > >>

> > > >> 2nd spouse/partner is seen from 8th from UL which falls

in

> > > >> Scorpio. 2nd from that has Moon and Ketu aspected by

Rahu.

> > Lord

> > > >> of this house Jupiter however is strong and should

protect

> > the UL!

> > > >>

> > > >> In both cases ULL Mars in own house is a favorable

factor

> and

> > > >> should have given longevity to them! Other factor is 7L

in

> D1

> > > >> being in own house. Saturn usually protects the house in

> > which it

> > > >> is placed especially so in this case because it is its

own

> > house!

> > > >>

> > > >> Though 8H affliction of D1 may indicate widowhood, I can

> see

> > some

> > > >> positive factors too. I would therefore like to hear

views

> of

> > > >> knowledgeable members . I have attached your chart in

JHL

> > format

> > > >> for the sake of convenience. I hope the birth details are

> > > >> correct. Just one question please, were both spouses

> Martian

> > > >> personalities? I am sure you know that UL would indicate

a

> > > >> partner regardless of formal marriage! In other words if

> > there

> > > >> were other stable relationships (lasting over a year or

> so)

> > the

> > > >> working would change.

> > > >>

> > > >> Before I close I must mention that 3rd marriage is seen

> from

> > 9H

> > > >> which in your case has Jupiter in own house!

> > > >>

> > > >> Regards

> > > >>

> > > >> Ramesh

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> the_lighted1 [m18deb@a...]

> > > >> Friday, September 10, 2004 3:49 AM

> > > >> vedic astrology

> > > >> [vedic astrology] I have been widowed twice and

am

> > > >> wondering if

> > > >> I will have another chance

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> > Hello respected Guru's and learned students,

> > > >> > I was wondering if you see from my own chart a

marriage

> in

> > the

> > > >> future for me. I have been plagued by unfortunate

> > circumstance in my

> > > >> > previous 2 marriages in which I was widowed in both

> > instances all

> > > >> > before the age of 30. The first time was in April of

> 1985

> > and the

> > > >> > second time was October 1992. I am including my chart

> > details,

> > > >> > please let me know if you need additional information.

I

> am

> > > >> > currently studying on my own until I feel educated

> enough

> > to join

> > > >> the ranks as an official student. I would like to see

what

> > exactly in

> > > >> my chart determines this and if this is going to happen

> > again or will

> > > >> I not have another marriage etc.. Thank you for your

> insight.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Warm Regards,

> > > >> > Debbie Munger

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Debbie Munger

> > > >> > Nov 18, 1963 10:33 PM +08:00 PST

> > > >> > Sacramento, CA:USA Longitude: 121W30 Latitude: 38N35

> > > >> > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:21 Current Period: MA/RA/RA

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

> > > >> > ================================================

> > > >> > Asc 21:57 Can Aslesha Me

> > > >> > Sun 02:50 Sco +01:00:34 WK Vishakha Ju

> > > >> > Moon 05:14 Sag +11:55:04 WK Mula Ke

> > > >> > Mars 24:33 Sco +00:44:34 ST Jyeshtha Me

> > > >> > Merc 11:00 Sco +01:32:47 CM Anuradha Sa

> > > >> > JuptR 16:38 Pis -00:03:18 FM U.Bhadra Sa

> > > >> > Ven 23:44 Sco +01:14:46 WK Jyeshtha Me

> > > >> > Sat 23:47 Cap +00:02:51 FM Dhanishtha Ma

> > > >> > Rahu 18:32 Gem -00:02:11 FM Ardra Ra

> > > >> > Ketu 18:32 Sag -00:02:11 FM P.Shadya Ve

> > > >> >

> > > >> > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 315 beats

> > > >> > Day: Monday Sunrise: 6:52 AM

> > > >> > Tithi: Shukla Tritiya

> > > >> > Yoga Pt: 11:24 Li Yogi:Ra AviYogi:Ve Dup Yogi: Ve

> > > >> > Dagha Rashis: Leo Cap

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Rashi Chart

> > > >> > *******************************************************

> > > >> > ** 5 * * 3 **

> > > >> > *6 * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * RA 18:32* *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

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> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > *SU 02:50* * * * *

> > > >> > *ME 11:00 * * * * *

> > > >> > *VE 23:44 * 10 SA 23:47 * 12 JUR16:38*

> > > >> > *MA 24:33 * * * * *

> > > >> > * MO 05:14* * * *

> > > >> > * * KE 18:32 * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > ** 9 * * 11 **

> > > >> > *******************************************************

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Navamsha

> > > >> > *******************************************************

> > > >> > ** 11 * * 9 **

> > > >> > *12* * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * MA * * * *

> > > >> > * VE * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > *RA * 10 AS * 8 JUR *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > ** * * **

> > > >> > *1 * 7 ME *

> > > >> > ** * * **

> > > >> > *2 * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > *MO * 4 SU * 6 KE *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

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> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > ** 3 * * 5 **

> > > >> > *******************************************************

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Khavedamsha

> > > >> > *******************************************************

> > > >> > ** 1 * * 11 **

> > > >> > *2 * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * RA * * * *

> > > >> > * KE * * * *

> > > >> > *VE * * * * *

> > > >> > *SA * 12 AS * 10 SU *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

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> > > >> > *3 MA * 9 ME *

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> > > >> > * * JUR * * MO * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > * * * * * *

> > > >> > ** 5 * * 7 **

> > > >> > *******************************************************

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis

> > > >> > ========================

> > > >> > Ke/Ma 8/22/1963

> > > >> > Ke/Ra 1/18/1964

> > > >> > Ke/Ju 2/5/1965

> > > >> > Ke/Sa 1/12/1966

> > > >> > Ke/Me 2/21/1967

> > > >> > Ve/Ve 2/18/1968

> > > >> > Ve/Su 6/19/1971

> > > >> > Ve/Mo 6/19/1972

> > > >> > Ve/Ma 2/17/1974

> > > >> > Ve/Ra 4/19/1975

> > > >> > Ve/Ju 4/19/1978

> > > >> > Ve/Sa 12/18/1980

> > > >> > Ve/Me 2/18/1984

> > > >> > Ve/Ke 12/19/1986

> > > >> > Su/Su 2/18/1988

> > > >> > Su/Mo 6/6/1988

> > > >> > Su/Ma 12/6/1988

> > > >> > Su/Ra 4/13/1989

> > > >> > Su/Ju 3/8/1990

> > > >> > Su/Sa 12/25/1990

> > > >> > Su/Me 12/7/1991

> > > >> > Su/Ke 10/12/1992

> > > >> > Su/Ve 2/17/1993

> > > >> > Mo/Mo 2/17/1994

> > > >> > Mo/Ma 12/19/1994

> > > >> > Mo/Ra 7/20/1995

> > > >> > Mo/Ju 1/18/1997

> > > >> > Mo/Sa 5/20/1998

> > > >> > Mo/Me 12/19/1999

> > > >> > Mo/Ke 5/19/2001

> > > >> > Mo/Ve 12/18/2001

> > > >> > Mo/Su 8/19/2003

> > > >> > Ma/Ma 2/18/2004

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> > > >> > Ma/Me 8/19/2007

> > > >> > Ma/Ke 8/15/2008

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I was just wondering what if a native has Gulika and Mandi with UL.

 

Does it mean that the marriage of that person is ruined(poisoned) ?

 

Regards,

 

Saimonmuk111 <monmuk111 > wrote:

Hello Debbie:One more lethal combination I noted in your horoscope--Rahu in 12th

is also placed with Gulika and Mandi. Gulika indicatesthe poison you have to

drink (like Shiva and save the world) whileMandi indicates the poison you give

to others like Rudra(Violent formof Shiva).You "extra-marital affair" was the

poison (Mandi) that you gave to your first husband. Thereafter, your bad karma

caught-up with you and you had to drink poison (Gulika) in form of your abusive

and alcoholic second husband.--See, one's karma (bad or good) always catches up

with him/her; if not in this life, then in the next life.The remedy is to

perform karma that personify Siva's driking of poison to save the Earth,i.e.

not hurting others even when they hurt you would constitue "driking of

poison."You have some good combinations in

your horoscope as well. Yours is a very interesting horoscope, some of the Kind

Gurus have done various in-depth analysis for you, hope you read/printed out

all of them.Mukund vedic astrology, "the_lighted1"

<m18deb@a...> wrote:> Hello,> I just wanted to include some relevant

information in regard to my > chart that may be useful. I thought that I

posted earlier but I > guess that I did it wrong because I don't see it. I

thank everyone > for their insight and am using it to understand my chart

better, > Thanks again.> > I was married the first time on December 20th, 1981

the same year > that I graduated from high school and had a son on June 8th,

1982. I > separated from my husband in May of 1983 and was having an extra >

marital affair and my husband whom I had filed for divorce from and > was in a

different

relationship himself killed himself by shooting > himself in the head with a

rifle in the back yard of his mother's > home on April 25, 1984> > My second

marriage was May 17th, 1989. I had a son by him prior to > the marriage on

August 30th 1987 and another son after we were > married on September 6th,

1989. That husband was a severe alcoholic > who was very abusive and I

separated from him less than a year after > we were married but never filed for

a divorce. The day I kicked him > out was January 20th 1990 and he died of the

delirium tremens which > are the DT's caused by withdraw from alcohol on

October 14, 1992. > That was the day before his 34th birthday.> > Other

things that may be of interest are that my two youngest sons > have been raised

by my mother and father since July of 1992. This > was voluntarily at first

when I was financially not able to do so, > but as time went by my mother did

what she could to prevent my sons > from living with me and discouraged them to

do so. I do see them all > of the time but my mother I feel betrayed me in not

encouraging my > sons to want to live with me and we have had a very strained >

relationship.> > thanks again,> Debbie> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> > wrote:> > Dear

Ramesh,> > Saturn becomes Shubha being in own house and attracts Kendradhipati

> > dosha, thus giving some bad results related to one's Lagna if in > 7th. > >

Being 8th Lord in 7th he is also capable of harming the indications > of > > 7th

house. These two are separate issues and need to be viewed as > such. > > I

would say the problems in marriage

could arise out of either not > > being able to communicate with spouse or due

to a somewhat negative > view > > of looking at things and suspicious nature.>

> Chandrashekhar.> > > > Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:> > > > > Satyam Bruyat

Priyam Bruyat> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekharji,> > > Thank you for your

comments and for pointing out that Saturn is > 8L > > > too. I want to

understand the earlier comment of yours. Does it > imply > > > that Saturn in

this case will not be shubha though placed in own > house > > > or because it

is placed in own house? Will the dictum of 'Saturn > > > protects the house in

which it is placed' get diluted because it > is > > > own house?> > > Kind

regards> > > Ramesh> >

>> > > > > > ** Chandrashekhar

[boxdel]> > > *Sent:* Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:30 AM> > >

*To:* Ramesh Gangaramani> > > *Cc:* vedic astrology> > >

*Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] I have been widowed twice > and am> > >

wondering if I will have another chance> > >> > > Dear Debbie/Ramesh,> > >

I would think Debbie might marry again around April 2005 and > that> > >

marriage is likely to be more fortunate. The person would be > more> > >

mature in age than Debbie, is what I

think.> > > By the way Ramesh, Malefic owning a Kendra is Shubha if not> > >

occupying that Kendra, Saturn is in Kendra in own house and > is> > >

8th lord too.> > >> > > Chandrashekhar.> > >> > > Ramesh Gangaramani

wrote:> > >> > >> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Buryat> > >>> > >> Debbie,> >

>>> > >> I am sorry to hear about the tragedies in your life. I am> > >>

initiating a discussion based on my initial observations.> > >> In case of

females 8H signifies magalaya = marital bond,> > >>

subhagya, vaidhavya = widowhood. In D1, 8H is aspected by > Mars> > >> and

Rahu. In D9 the 8H has Saturn placed in it and is > aspected by> > >> Mars,

Venus and Rahu.> > >>> > >> This is what Kalyan Verma has to say "KV:

Malefic in the 8th > will> > >> cause widowhood. This will occur in the

Dasa periods of the > Lord> > >> of the Navamsa occupied by the 8th Lord."

Your 8L is Saturn,> > >> placed in 8H in D9 in Leo rashi. Lord is Sun. 2nd

tragedy> > >> occurred in Sun-Ven-Ven dasa. (Please read functional> > >>

characteristics of Venus below.)> > >>> > >> The

first case happened in Venus dasa which is a functional> > >> malefic

(kendradhipati dosha and also 11L) for Cancer Lagna. > It> > >> happens to

be the lord of 2nd house from UL and hence maraka > for> > >> 1st spouse.

AD was that of Mercury which is also a functional> > >> malefic (dusthana

lord and trisadipati- 12L and 3L).> > >>> > >> UL is placed 12th from AL in

D1. This actually indicates> > >> 'rejection of spouse'. I am not sure what

would it mean in > your> > >> case. Also this applies to the 1st spouse.

2nd from UL is> > >> aspected by Sun, Mars, Mercury and Venus. It has rashi

> drishti of> >

>> Saturn. I am not sure if this would indicate premature death > of> > >>

the spouse.> > >>> > >> 2nd spouse/partner is seen from 8th from UL which

falls in> > >> Scorpio. 2nd from that has Moon and Ketu aspected by Rahu. >

Lord> > >> of this house Jupiter however is strong and should protect > the

UL!> > >>> > >> In both cases ULL Mars in own house is a favorable factor

and> > >> should have given longevity to them! Other factor is 7L in D1> >

>> being in own house. Saturn usually protects the house in > which it> >

>> is placed especially so in this case because it

is its own > house!> > >>> > >> Though 8H affliction of D1 may indicate

widowhood, I can see > some> > >> positive factors too. I would therefore

like to hear views of> > >> knowledgeable members . I have attached your

chart in JHL > format> > >> for the sake of convenience. I hope the birth

details are> > >> correct. Just one question please, were both spouses

Martian> > >> personalities? I am sure you know that UL would indicate a> >

>> partner regardless of formal marriage! In other words if > there> > >>

were other stable relationships (lasting over a year or so) > the> >

>> working would change.> > >>> > >> Before I close I must mention that

3rd marriage is seen from > 9H> > >> which in your case has Jupiter in own

house!> > >>> > >> Regards> > >>> > >> Ramesh> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>

> > >> the_lighted1 [m18deb@a...]>

> >> Friday, September 10, 2004 3:49 AM> > >> To:

vedic astrology> > >> [vedic astrology] I have

been widowed twice and am> > >> wondering

if> > >> I will have another chance> > >>> > >>> > >> > Hello respected

Guru's and learned students,> > >> > I was wondering if you see from my own

chart a marriage in > the> > >> future for me. I have been plagued by

unfortunate > circumstance in my> > >> > previous 2 marriages in which I

was widowed in both > instances all> > >> > before the age of 30. The first

time was in April of 1985 > and the> > >> > second time was October 1992. I

am including my chart > details,> > >> > please let me know if you need

additional information. I am> >

>> > currently studying on my own until I feel educated enough > to join> >

>> the ranks as an official student. I would like to see what > exactly in>

> >> my chart determines this and if this is going to happen > again or

will> > >> I not have another marriage etc.. Thank you for your insight.> >

>> >> > >> > Warm Regards,> > >> > Debbie Munger> > >> >> > >>

> Debbie Munger> > >> > Nov 18, 1963 10:33 PM +08:00 PST> > >> >

Sacramento, CA:USA Longitude: 121W30 Latitude: 38N35> >

>> > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 23:21 Current Period: MA/RA/RA> > >> >> > >>

> Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord> > >> >

================================================> > >> > Asc 21:57 Can

Aslesha Me> > >> > Sun 02:50 Sco +01:00:34 WK Vishakha Ju> > >> > Moon

05:14 Sag +11:55:04 WK Mula Ke> > >> > Mars 24:33 Sco +00:44:34 ST Jyeshtha

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8/22/1963> > >> > Ke/Ra 1/18/1964> > >> > Ke/Ju 2/5/1965> > >> >

Ke/Sa 1/12/1966> > >> > Ke/Me 2/21/1967> > >> > Ve/Ve 2/18/1968> > >>

> Ve/Su 6/19/1971> > >> > Ve/Mo 6/19/1972> > >> > Ve/Ma 2/17/1974> >

>> > Ve/Ra 4/19/1975> > >> > Ve/Ju

4/19/1978> > >> > Ve/Sa 12/18/1980> > >> > Ve/Me 2/18/1984> > >> >

Ve/Ke 12/19/1986> > >> > Su/Su 2/18/1988> > >> > Su/Mo 6/6/1988> > >>

> Su/Ma 12/6/1988> > >> > Su/Ra 4/13/1989> > >> > Su/Ju 3/8/1990> > >>

> Su/Sa 12/25/1990> > >> > Su/Me 12/7/1991> > >> > Su/Ke 10/12/1992>

> >> > Su/Ve 2/17/1993> > >> > Mo/Mo 2/17/1994> > >> > Mo/Ma

12/19/1994> > >>

> Mo/Ra 7/20/1995> > >> > Mo/Ju 1/18/1997> > >> > Mo/Sa 5/20/1998> > >>

> Mo/Me 12/19/1999> > >> > Mo/Ke 5/19/2001> > >> > Mo/Ve 12/18/2001>

> >> > Mo/Su 8/19/2003> > >> > Ma/Ma 2/18/2004> > >> > Ma/Ra

7/16/2004> > >> > Ma/Ju 8/3/2005> > >> > Ma/Sa 7/10/2006> > >> >

Ma/Me 8/19/2007> > >> > Ma/Ke 8/15/2008> > >> > Ma/Ve 1/11/2009> > >>

> Ma/Su 3/14/2010> >

>> > Ma/Mo 7/19/2010> > >> > Ra/Ra 2/18/2011> > >> > Ra/Ju

10/31/2013> > >> > Ra/Sa 3/25/2016> > >> > Ra/Me 1/30/2019> > >> >

Ra/Ke 8/19/2021> > >> > Ra/Ve 9/6/2022> > >> > Ra/Su 9/6/2025> > >>

> Ra/Mo 8/1/2026> > >> > Ra/Ma 1/30/2028> > >> > Ju/Ju 2/17/2029> > >>

> Ju/Sa 4/7/2031> > >> > Ju/Me 10/19/2033> > >> > Ju/Ke 1/24/2036> >

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Ju/Ma 10/19/2041> > >> > Ju/Ra 9/24/2042> > >> > Sa/Sa 2/17/2045> > >>

> Sa/Me 2/21/2048> > >> > Sa/Ke 10/31/2050> > >> > Sa/Ve 12/10/2051>

> >> > Sa/Su 2/8/2055> > >> > Sa/Mo 1/21/2056> > >> > Sa/Ma

8/22/2057> > >> > Sa/Ra 9/30/2058> > >> > Sa/Ju 8/6/2061> > >> >

Me/Me 2/18/2064> > >>

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