ADMIN: Bringing up private readings publicly (TO SANJAY RATHJI)

[Guest guest]

Namaste friends,

 

Sanjay P wrote below: "There is nothing wrong in telling a Jyotisha

that his/her predictions have not come out as foretold."

 

This makes me concerned and I have to set one thing straight.

 

If a well-known astrologer made predictions to you and they go

wrong, you may be well within your rights to take it up with the

astrologer. But, it is not good to bring it up publicly here. We do

not want to encourage such behavior, as there is scope for abuse by

ill-wishers of well-known astrologers who want to sully their

reputation. If the predictions were not made publicly and were made

to you in private, please do not bring them up here!

 

If you are curious as to why the prediction went wrong and genuinely

interested in a post-mortem, you may post your data on the list and

mention the prediction without mentioning any names. If you are only

interested in a post-mortem or an updated prediction, you do not

need to reveal the name of the astrologer who went wrong.

 

Of course, if the prediction was made publicly or on this list, it

is a different matter.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

List founder & admin

 

> Dear Sandeep,

> Please post your birth data and I am curious and want to analyse

it.

> Pt. Sanjay Rath is no doubt a expert Jyotish. He will take it in

> right spirit if take it up with him the right way. There is

nothing

> wrong in telling a Jyotisha that his/her predictions have not come

> out as foretold. Analysing what went wrong may actually help you.

>

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P

>

> Om Tat Sat

>

> vedic astrology, "monmuk111"

<monmuk111>

> wrote:

> > Hello Sandeep:

> >

> > It appears you're frustrated because Sanjay made "desirable"

> > predictions for you and they didn't come true. Now, think about

> this--

> > what if Sanjay had made "undesirable" predictions for you and

these

> > hadn't come true, would you have jumped with joy in this case?

> >

> > The reality of Jyotish or Western astrology is that NO-ONE and I

> > repeat NO-ONE can make accurately time an event. Yes, a broad-

brush

> > prediction can be made, but that's it.

> >

> > By God'd grace, I had the financial feasibility to consult

> many "hot

> > and happening" Jyotishas and NONE of the predictions they made

came

> > true so far.

> >

> > The common faliure amongst all of them was my Moon mahadasa and

> Mars

> > mahadasa--my Moon is the lord of Cancer,i.e. badhakesha so all

of

> > them said that Moon mahadasa will ruin me, in reality, Moon

> mahadasa

> > took me to the Pinnacle of acadamic and financial success.

> >

> > For my Mars mahadasa, they all said that it'll be the golden

period

> > of my life, in reality, I lost EVERYTHING that I had gained in

the

> > Moon dasa during Mars mahadasa. The Jyotishas predicted great

> things

> > in Mars dasa as it was my Lagna lord (Scorpio lord) located in

the

> > 11th house.

> >

> > These day, I'm chasing a lot of "hot and happening" Jyotishas to

> know

> > how my upcoming Rahu dasa would turn out and I've been getting

> > contradictory predictions. The only similar prediction I got was

> from

> > Sanjay and Visti whose prediction didn't differ from each other.

> >

> > Well Sundeep, I've given you these two examples from my personal

> life

> > to stress that timing events, despite the reputation of the

> Jyotish,

> > is IMMPOSSIBLE. So, please don't be disappointed if Sanjay's

> > prediction didn't come true. -- Maybe his predictions WILL come

> true

> > as time passes.

> >

> > If there are karmic signatures in your horoscope relating to

> foreign

> > travel and residence, then these signatures will definitely come

to

> > fruition sometime in your life. I've seen men from my community

> > (Gujarati) in their fifties and sixties immigrate to the US and

> > become owners of million dollar motels so please don't loose

hope--

> if

> > your horoscope contains karmic signatures of foreign travel, it

> WILL

> > happen, but NO-ONE can predict when.

> >

> > Look for Venus, placement of 12th lord, etc. I've seen that

Venus

> > located in the 9th house gives foreign travel OR foreign

connection

> > (close relatives overseas). Also, 12th lord in 9th house usually

> > gives foreign residence. Also 4th lord in 6th house gives

foreign

> > residence. Also, Rahu mahadasa (if Rahu is in 6th, 9th or 12th)

> gives

> > association of foreigners. P.S. Rahu in 12th also gives

association

> > of criminals and sends one to jail or hospital or a foreign

place

> > during its mahadasa--here jail/hospital would constitute a

foreign

> > place representing the 12th house.

> >

> > See Sundeep, from the few combinations I've noted earlier, you

can

> > yourself decipher if your horoscope has the karmic signatures

for

> > foreign connections.--Only God knows when these signatures will

> > fructify.

> >

> > Mukund

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, sudeep suri

> <vaudeva99>

> > wrote:

> > > DEAR SANJAY RATH JI MAHARAJ

> > > Reference my astrological consultation with you on 29 JAN 2004

> VIA

> > telephone.After the consultation you sent me an audio casette of

> > predictions(OUR TAPED CONVERSATION ).

> > >

> > > NOW 6 months down the line I find that all your predictions

are

> > incorrect.Your most important prediction was that in MAY 2004 in

> KETU

> > pratyantar I will get something fantastic and that in JULY 2004

I

> > will be in USA. Sir JULY is finished I am in INDIA and I never

got

> > anything FANTASTIC as you mentioned in MAY 2004.

> > >

> > > I am wondering WHY YOU HAVE GONE WRONG because you took lot of

> > pains to explain the astrological reasoning behind it.So DOES

THIS

> > MEAN ASTROLOGY IS NO SCIENCE OR YOUR REASONING AND ANALYSIS IS

> > INCORRECT I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW.

> > > REGARDS

> > > SUDEEP

[Guest guest]

Dear Narshimhaji Namste

 

Although, you own this group and have all rights to

maintain disciplined interaction on the list, I

thought the ADMIN in this case was not required. It

came a bit early!. There are many instances when

people publicly have an expression of approval and

commendation towards Sanjayji's correct prdictions,

although the predictions were made privately.Does one

or two such public utterances against Sanjayji make

any difference to him or his reputations? By early

reaction from the ADMIN, person may have wrong

impression about Sanjayji's ability to handle

astrology.

 

 

Moreover every body knows that this a list patronized

by Sanjayji. Put in other words it is essential

element of Sanjayji's Parivar.(It is something like

Sangh Parivar with many outfits. They are all together

and when need arises they can claim their separate

identity!) So matter related to him good or bad will

surely come on the list. If ADMIN stops these matters

to come up here, it will find expressions at some

other list where possibly Sanjayji may not be able to

put forward his point of view.

 

I think that we should let Sanjayji handle it in his

own way. Although both of you know each other very

well and respect each other much, I respectfully

disagree with the early ADMIN intervention in this

matter.

 

By any chance if I have crossed my limits please

excuse me.

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

 

 

 

 

--- pvr108 <pvr wrote:

 

> Namaste friends,

>

> Sanjay P wrote below: "There is nothing wrong in

> telling a Jyotisha

> that his/her predictions have not come out as

> foretold."

>

> This makes me concerned and I have to set one thing

> straight.

>

> If a well-known astrologer made predictions to you

> and they go

> wrong, you may be well within your rights to take it

> up with the

> astrologer. But, it is not good to bring it up

> publicly here. We do

> not want to encourage such behavior, as there is

> scope for abuse by

> ill-wishers of well-known astrologers who want to

> sully their

> reputation. If the predictions were not made

> publicly and were made

> to you in private, please do not bring them up here!

>

> If you are curious as to why the prediction went

> wrong and genuinely

> interested in a post-mortem, you may post your data

> on the list and

> mention the prediction without mentioning any names.

> If you are only

> interested in a post-mortem or an updated

> prediction, you do not

> need to reveal the name of the astrologer who went

> wrong.

>

> Of course, if the prediction was made publicly or on

> this list, it

> is a different matter.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

> List founder & admin

>

> > Dear Sandeep,

> > Please post your birth data and I am curious and

> want to analyse

> it.

> > Pt. Sanjay Rath is no doubt a expert Jyotish. He

> will take it in

> > right spirit if take it up with him the right way.

> There is

> nothing

> > wrong in telling a Jyotisha that his/her

> predictions have not come

> > out as foretold. Analysing what went wrong may

> actually help you.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> > Sanjay P

> >

> > Om Tat Sat

> >

> > vedic astrology,

> "monmuk111"

> <monmuk111>

> > wrote:

> > > Hello Sandeep:

> > >

> > > It appears you're frustrated because Sanjay made

> "desirable"

> > > predictions for you and they didn't come true.

> Now, think about

> > this--

> > > what if Sanjay had made "undesirable"

> predictions for you and

> these

> > > hadn't come true, would you have jumped with joy

> in this case?

> > >

> > > The reality of Jyotish or Western astrology is

> that NO-ONE and I

> > > repeat NO-ONE can make accurately time an event.

> Yes, a broad-

> brush

> > > prediction can be made, but that's it.

> > >

> > > By God'd grace, I had the financial feasibility

> to consult

> > many "hot

> > > and happening" Jyotishas and NONE of the

> predictions they made

> came

> > > true so far.

> > >

> > > The common faliure amongst all of them was my

> Moon mahadasa and

> > Mars

> > > mahadasa--my Moon is the lord of Cancer,i.e.

> badhakesha so all

> of

> > > them said that Moon mahadasa will ruin me, in

> reality, Moon

> > mahadasa

> > > took me to the Pinnacle of acadamic and

> financial success.

> > >

> > > For my Mars mahadasa, they all said that it'll

> be the golden

> period

> > > of my life, in reality, I lost EVERYTHING that I

> had gained in

> the

> > > Moon dasa during Mars mahadasa. The Jyotishas

> predicted great

> > things

> > > in Mars dasa as it was my Lagna lord (Scorpio

> lord) located in

> the

> > > 11th house.

> > >

> > > These day, I'm chasing a lot of "hot and

> happening" Jyotishas to

> > know

> > > how my upcoming Rahu dasa would turn out and

> I've been getting

> > > contradictory predictions. The only similar

> prediction I got was

> > from

> > > Sanjay and Visti whose prediction didn't differ

> from each other.

> > >

> > > Well Sundeep, I've given you these two examples

> from my personal

> > life

> > > to stress that timing events, despite the

> reputation of the

> > Jyotish,

> > > is IMMPOSSIBLE. So, please don't be disappointed

> if Sanjay's

> > > prediction didn't come true. -- Maybe his

> predictions WILL come

> > true

> > > as time passes.

> > >

> > > If there are karmic signatures in your horoscope

> relating to

> > foreign

> > > travel and residence, then these signatures will

> definitely come

> to

> > > fruition sometime in your life. I've seen men

> from my community

> > > (Gujarati) in their fifties and sixties

> immigrate to the US and

> > > become owners of million dollar motels so please

> don't loose

> hope--

> > if

> > > your horoscope contains karmic signatures of

> foreign travel, it

> > WILL

> > > happen, but NO-ONE can predict when.

> > >

> > > Look for Venus, placement of 12th lord, etc.

> I've seen that

> Venus

> > > located in the 9th house gives foreign travel OR

> foreign

> connection

> > > (close relatives overseas). Also, 12th lord in

> 9th house usually

> > > gives foreign residence. Also 4th lord in 6th

> house gives

> foreign

> > > residence. Also, Rahu mahadasa (if Rahu is in

> 6th, 9th or 12th)

> > gives

> > > association of foreigners. P.S. Rahu in 12th

> also gives

> association

> > > of criminals and sends one to jail or hospital

> or a foreign

> place

> > > during its mahadasa--here jail/hospital would

> constitute a

> foreign

> > > place representing the 12th house.

> > >

> > > See Sundeep, from the few combinations I've

> noted earlier, you

> can

> > > yourself decipher if your horoscope has the

> karmic signatures

> for

> > > foreign connections.--Only God knows when these

> signatures will

> > > fructify.

> > >

> > > Mukund

> > >

> > >

>

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