Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Dear Ramesh Namaste Saturn in lagna usually delays the marriage and she is already 28+. Moreover, Sa is transiting in lagna in near future and that way will aspect its own 7th house. At the same time Ju will be in trine to 7th house So there is chance of her marriage. Another point is that the 5th lord is debiliated and vargittam,weak in deg., and lord of UL as well. The sthira putrakarak is 6th to 5th house. So trouble causing grahas are Mars and Jupiter. Askl her to wear Moonga in gold in Anamika on any Tuesday. Ask her to perform Shivalinga pooja daily with water and Dahi. Fast on Tuesday will give best results. This should help her. Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande vedic astrology, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> wrote: > Jai Jagannath Jee Ki, > Pranam to all my fellow members, I am knew to this group Can you please clarify my querry. I shall be thankfull to all of you.The querry is: > A girl born on 06/05/76 at 10:34 AM at tejpur(Assam) is still unmarried and there is no chance in 2004. > I checked up her chart and found that kalatrakarak venus is afflicted in 10 th House.Jupiter the karaka for husband in female chart is combust and posited in Aries whose lord Mars is debilitated in lagna and conjoined with 7th lord Saturn a malefic. > The only positive sign of marriage is that the LL Moon and 7L saturn is together in lagna afflicted by debilitated Mars. > When we checked up the D9 lagna is scorpio whose lord Mars condition is weak Venus here also afflicted by Mars .Moon is afflicted by Rahu and Ketu Jup. is alongwith a malefic saturn. > The positive sign is here also that LL and 7L are together in 9th house. > Now the query is that will her be marriage settled ,if so when, or is there denial of marriage due to afflicted and combust Jup and afflicted Venus. > Her present MD/AD is KETU/VENUS up to 29-10-2004 and then AD of SUN starts. > Kindly help me. > Jai sri Krishna > From Ramesh Mishraaarceemastro2002 > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Dear Amolmandar Jee,Pranaam, You have rightly said that Saturn in lagna causing delay.She is passing through saadhe sati also. She worships shivlinga daily but with water only. She kept fast on Tuesday for many weeks also but all fruitless. As you said Sat.will transit in lagna and Jup. trine to 7th house,both of them will aspect 7th house ,it is correct but Jup will not have aspect on lagna lord nor lagna.Secondly AD will be of Sun at that time .Sun is debilited in 12 th house in D9.Will it help in the marriage? Please clarify. Thanks for taking pain.Sat sat Pranaam again. Rameshamolmandar <amolmandar > wrote: Dear Ramesh NamasteSaturn in lagna usually delays the marriage and she is already 28+. Moreover, Sa is transiting in lagna in near future and that way will aspect its own 7th house. At the same time Ju will be in trine to 7th house So there is chance of her marriage. Another point is that the 5th lord is debiliated and vargittam,weak in deg., and lord of UL as well. The sthira putrakarak is 6th to 5th house. So trouble causing grahas are Mars and Jupiter. Askl her to wear Moonga in gold in Anamika on any Tuesday. Ask her to perform Shivalinga pooja daily with water and Dahi. Fast on Tuesday will give best results. This should help her.Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh Vekhandevedic astrology, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> wrote:> Jai Jagannath Jee Ki,> Pranam to all my fellow members, I am knew to this group Can you please clarify my querry. I shall be thankfull to all of you.The querry is:> A girl born on 06/05/76 at 10:34 AM at tejpur(Assam) is still unmarried and there is no chance in 2004.> I checked up her chart and found that kalatrakarak venus is afflicted in 10 th House.Jupiter the karaka for husband in female chart is combust and posited in Aries whose lord Mars is debilitated in lagna and conjoined with 7th lord Saturn a malefic.> The only positive sign of marriage is that the LL Moon and 7L saturn is together in lagna afflicted by debilitated Mars.> When we checked up the D9 lagna is scorpio whose lord Mars condition is weak Venus here also afflicted by Mars .Moon is afflicted by Rahu and Ketu Jup. is alongwith a malefic saturn.> The positive sign is here also that LL and 7L are together in 9th house.> Now the query is that will her be marriage settled ,if so when, or is there denial of marriage due to afflicted and combust Jup and afflicted Venus.> Her present MD/AD is KETU/VENUS up to 29-10-2004 and then AD of SUN starts.> Kindly help me.> Jai sri Krishna > >From Ramesh Mishraaarceemastro2002> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Dear Ramesh Namste If she is already in Shivalinga pooja then now she must surrender to Vedas. Ask her to recite Mahavivahamantradaily 108 times. tryambakaM yajaamahe sugandhiM pativedhanam. urvaarukam iva bandhanaad itomuxiiya mamutaH. Download Itranslator-99 from http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org to see the sanskrit version of the above shloka. Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande vedic astrology, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> wrote: > Jai Jagannath Jee Ki, > Dear Amolmandar Jee,Pranaam, > You have rightly said that Saturn in lagna causing delay.She is passing through saadhe sati also. She worships shivlinga daily but with water only. She kept fast on Tuesday for many weeks also but all fruitless. > As you said Sat.will transit in lagna and Jup. trine to 7th house,both of them will aspect 7th house ,it is correct but Jup will not have aspect on lagna lord nor lagna.Secondly AD will be of Sun at that time .Sun is debilited in 12 th house in D9.Will it help in the marriage? Please clarify. > Thanks for taking pain.Sat sat Pranaam again. > Ramesh > > amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote: > Dear Ramesh Namaste > > Saturn in lagna usually delays the marriage and she is already 28+. > Moreover, Sa is transiting in lagna in near future and that way will > aspect its own 7th house. At the same time Ju will be in trine to > 7th house So there is chance of her marriage. Another point is that > the 5th lord is debiliated and vargittam,weak in deg., and lord of > UL as well. The sthira putrakarak is 6th to 5th house. So trouble > causing grahas are Mars and Jupiter. Askl her to wear Moonga in gold > in Anamika on any Tuesday. Ask her to perform Shivalinga pooja daily > with water and Dahi. Fast on Tuesday will give best results. This > should help her. > > Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce. > > > Prabodh Vekhande > vedic astrology, ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002> wrote: > > Jai Jagannath Jee Ki, > > Pranam to all my fellow members, I am knew to this group Can you > please clarify my querry. I shall be thankfull to all of you.The > querry is: > > A girl born on 06/05/76 at 10:34 AM at tejpur(Assam) is still > unmarried and there is no chance in 2004. > > I checked up her chart and found that kalatrakarak venus is > afflicted in 10 th House.Jupiter the karaka for husband in female > chart is combust and posited in Aries whose lord Mars is debilitated > in lagna and conjoined with 7th lord Saturn a malefic. > > The only positive sign of marriage is that the LL Moon and 7L > saturn is together in lagna afflicted by debilitated Mars. > > When we checked up the D9 lagna is scorpio whose lord Mars > condition is weak Venus here also afflicted by Mars .Moon is > afflicted by Rahu and Ketu Jup. is alongwith a malefic saturn. > > The positive sign is here also that LL and 7L are together in 9th > house. > > Now the query is that will her be marriage settled ,if so when, or > is there denial of marriage due to afflicted and combust Jup and > afflicted Venus. > > Her present MD/AD is KETU/VENUS up to 29-10-2004 and then AD of > SUN starts. > > Kindly help me. > > Jai sri Krishna > > From Ramesh Mishraaarceemastro2002 > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Prabodh, Namaskar In the charts of Shailesh Chada and his wife, both have Saturn in Lagna and there was no marriage delay. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush Jr, Al Gore, Indira Gandhi, Sonya Gandhi, all have Cancer Lagna with Saturn in it and their marriage was not delayed. Where did you get this dictum from? Instead Saturn in Lagna for Cancer can give a major Räjya Yoga and success in politics. It is actually Mars which causes delay in marriage, through Kuja Dosha, and will not give successful relations until after the 28th year. In my opinion she will marry at 31. However it will not be a conventional/traditional marriage (Sädhu Yoga in the Upapada). Lastly and more importantly - who wants to know? Asking about another persons chart with regards to relationships and marriage can be used for the wrong purposes. Yours, bold">Visti Larsen color:#4E81C4"> visti (AT) (DOT) org Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">amolmandar [amolmandar ] 16 August 2004 06:58 To: vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Delay or denial of marriage 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Dear Ramesh Namaste Saturn in lagna usually delays the marriage and she is already 28+. Moreover, Sa is transiting in lagna in near future and that way will aspect its own 7th house. At the same time Ju will be in trine to 7th house So there is chance of her marriage. Another point is that the 5th lord is debiliated and vargittam,weak in deg., and lord of UL as well. The sthira putrakarak is 6th to 5th house. So trouble causing grahas are Mars and Jupiter. Askl her to wear Moonga in gold in Anamika on any Tuesday. Ask her to perform Shivalinga pooja daily with water and Dahi. Fast on Tuesday will give best results. This should help her. Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande vedic astrology, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> wrote: > Jai Jagannath Jee Ki, > Pranam to all my fellow members, I am knew to this group Can you please clarify my querry. I shall be thankfull to all of you.The querry is: > A girl born on 06/05/76 at 10:34 AM at tejpur(Assam) is still unmarried and there is no chance in 2004. > I checked up her chart and found that kalatrakarak venus is afflicted in 10 th House.Jupiter the karaka for husband in female chart is combust and posited in Aries whose lord Mars is debilitated in lagna and conjoined with 7th lord Saturn a malefic. > The only positive sign of marriage is that the LL Moon and 7L saturn is together in lagna afflicted by debilitated Mars. > When we checked up the D9 lagna is scorpio whose lord Mars condition is weak Venus here also afflicted by Mars .Moon is afflicted by Rahu and Ketu Jup. is alongwith a malefic saturn. > The positive sign is here also that LL and 7L are together in 9th house. > Now the query is that will her be marriage settled ,if so when, or is there denial of marriage due to afflicted and combust Jup and afflicted Venus. > Her present MD/AD is KETU/VENUS up to 29-10-2004 and then AD of SUN starts. > Kindly help me. > Jai sri Krishna > From Ramesh Mishraaarceemastro2002 > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Attachment: (image/jpeg) image001.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Visti, Namaste. What about Saturn in 7th? I remember that Guruji also told that Sa in 7th doesnt usually delay the marriage. Could you please examine my chart (attached) and give your opinion as to what is the delaying factor for marriage? regards HariVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Prabodh, Namaskar In the charts of Shailesh Chada and his wife, both have Saturn in Lagna and there was no marriage delay. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush Jr, Al Gore, Indira Gandhi, Sonya Gandhi, all have Cancer Lagna with Saturn in it and their marriage was not delayed. Where did you get this dictum from? Instead Saturn in Lagna for Cancer can give a major Räjya Yoga and success in politics. It is actually Mars which causes delay in marriage, through Kuja Dosha, and will not give successful relations until after the 28th year. In my opinion she will marry at 31. However it will not be a conventional/traditional marriage (Sädhu Yoga in the Upapada). Lastly and more importantly - who wants to know? Asking about another persons chart with regards to relationships and marriage can be used for the wrong purposes. Yours, Visti Larsenvisti (AT) (DOT) org amolmandar [amolmandar ] 16 August 2004 06:58To: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Delay or denial of marriage Dear Ramesh NamasteSaturn in lagna usually delays the marriage and she is already 28+. Moreover, Sa is transiting in lagna in near future and that way will aspect its own 7th house. At the same time Ju will be in trine to 7th house So there is chance of her marriage. Another point is that the 5th lord is debiliated and vargittam,weak in deg., and lord of UL as well. The sthira putrakarak is 6th to 5th house. So trouble causing grahas are Mars and Jupiter. Askl her to wear Moonga in gold in Anamika on any Tuesday. Ask her to perform Shivalinga pooja daily with water and Dahi. Fast on Tuesday will give best results. This should help her.Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh Vekhande--- In vedic astrology, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> wrote:> Jai Jagannath Jee Ki,> Pranam to all my fellow members, I am knew to this group Can you please clarify my querry. I shall be thankfull to all of you.The querry is:> A girl born on 06/05/76 at 10:34 AM at tejpur(Assam) is still unmarried and there is no chance in 2004.> I checked up her chart and found that kalatrakarak venus is afflicted in 10 th House.Jupiter the karaka for husband in female chart is combust and posited in Aries whose lord Mars is debilitated in lagna and conjoined with 7th lord Saturn a malefic.> The only positive sign of marriage is that the LL Moon and 7L saturn is together in lagna afflicted by debilitated Mars.> When we checked up the D9 lagna is scorpio whose lord Mars condition is weak Venus here also afflicted by Mars .Moon is afflicted by Rahu and Ketu Jup. is alongwith a malefic saturn.> The positive sign is here also that LL and 7L are together in 9th house.> Now the query is that will her be marriage settled ,if so when, or is there denial of marriage due to afflicted and combust Jup and afflicted Venus.> Her present MD/AD is KETU/VENUS up to 29-10-2004 and then AD of New">SUN starts.> Kindly help me.> Jai sri Krishna > From Ramesh Mishraaarceemastro2002> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Attachment: (application/octet-stream) hari.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Hari, i understand that the question has been addressed to Visti. i also understand that the question has been posed in this forum. i therefore hope you will not mind me writing this. i had taken the birth time as 11hours 6minutes and 5 secs. Vrischika lagna is rising with Guru in it. You were born on Suklapaksha Navami in Surya Hora. This gives the clue to the applicable dasa. Shodasottari dasa is applicable(Rahu the governor is associated with AK Rahu). Sun is the lord of Upapada and is placed in 2nd from it. Buda is the other dasa governor whose dasa is also applicable but has been sidelined by Rahu on account of his close proximity with AK Mars. As per the shodasottari dasa you are currently running the dasa of Buda and antardasa of Sun. The argala caused by Vakra Sani is obstructed by Guru in lagna. With reference to UL this Sani is placed in 10th and has been obstructing the intervention of Guru. Let us see what this vakra sani has been contemplating over these years. Let us look at your D-60. This sani has joined hands with AK mars and has caused sorrow to the lagna lord and natural pitrikaraka Sun. We see a pitri saapa in the past birth. The lagna in the past birth is incidentally your UL in the current birth. Buda the 9th lord with reference to UL is placed in marana karaka sthana. Death came on account of the pitri saapa in the previous birth. Marriage is the most likely cause of this saapa as we find the UL and A7 together in Libra, where the graha arudas of the 7th lord and lagna lord conjoin. Let us see your Navamsa where Makara lagna rises with buda the dara karaka in it. This Buda is subject to the machinations of Mars from 7th and Sani from 4th houses respectively. We also find the kalatra karaka venus being put to hardships by Rahu and Sani. The period when Guru transits the 2nd from UL can be of great help in bringing the spouse who is residing in a place within your reach. Perform the remedial measures for clearance from pitri saapa. Observe fast on Sundays and donate food packets/food grains to the nearby temple. Help funding the marriage of a poor girl. Chant "NAMASIVAAYAI CHA NAMASIVAAYA" 324 times a day. Worship MATA BHAGAVATI fervently. Best wishes. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan.Hari M <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Visti, Namaste. What about Saturn in 7th? I remember that Guruji also told that Sa in 7th doesnt usually delay the marriage. Could you please examine my chart (attached) and give your opinion as to what is the delaying factor for marriage? regards HariVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Prabodh, Namaskar In the charts of Shailesh Chada and his wife, both have Saturn in Lagna and there was no marriage delay. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush Jr, Al Gore, Indira Gandhi, Sonya Gandhi, all have Cancer Lagna with Saturn in it and their marriage was not delayed. Where did you get this dictum from? Instead Saturn in Lagna for Cancer can give a major Räjya Yoga and success in politics. It is actually Mars which causes delay in marriage, through Kuja Dosha, and will not give successful relations until after the 28th year. In my opinion she will marry at 31. However it will not be a conventional/traditional marriage (Sädhu Yoga in the Upapada). Lastly and more importantly - who wants to know? Asking about another persons chart with regards to relationships and marriage can be used for the wrong purposes. Yours, Visti Larsenvisti (AT) (DOT) org amolmandar [amolmandar ] 16 August 2004 06:58To: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Delay or denial of marriage Dear Ramesh NamasteSaturn in lagna usually delays the marriage and she is already 28+. Moreover, Sa is transiting in lagna in near future and that way will aspect its own 7th house. At the same time Ju will be in trine to 7th house So there is chance of her marriage. Another point is that the 5th lord is debiliated and vargittam,weak in deg., and lord of UL as well. The sthira putrakarak is 6th to 5th house. So trouble causing grahas are Mars and Jupiter. Askl her to wear Moonga in gold in Anamika on any Tuesday. Ask her to perform Shivalinga pooja daily with water and Dahi. Fast on Tuesday will give best results. This should help her.Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh Vekhande--- In vedic astrology, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> wrote:> Jai Jagannath Jee Ki,> Pranam to all my fellow members, I am knew to this group Can you please clarify my querry. I shall be thankfull to all of you.The querry is:> A girl born on 06/05/76 at 10:34 AM at tejpur(Assam) is still unmarried and there is no chance in 2004.> I checked up her chart and found that kalatrakarak venus is afflicted in 10 th House.Jupiter the karaka for husband in female chart is combust and posited in Aries whose lord Mars is debilitated in lagna and conjoined with 7th lord Saturn a malefic.> The only positive sign of marriage is that the LL Moon and 7L saturn is together in lagna afflicted by debilitated Mars.> When we checked up the D9 lagna is scorpio whose lord Mars condition is weak Venus here also afflicted by Mars .Moon is afflicted by Rahu and Ketu Jup. is alongwith a malefic saturn.> The positive sign is here also that LL and 7L are together in 9th house.> Now the query is that will her be marriage settled ,if so when, or is there denial of marriage due to afflicted and combust Jup and afflicted Venus.> Her present MD/AD is KETU/VENUS up to 29-10-2004 and then AD of New">SUN starts.> Kindly help me.> Jai sri Krishna > From Ramesh Mishraaarceemastro2002> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 SARVAM GYANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Hari, i understand that the question has been addressed to Visti. i also understand that the question has been posed in this forum. i therefore hope you will not mind me writing this. i had taken the birth time as 11hours 6minutes and 5 secs. Vrischika lagna is rising with Guru in it. You were born on Suklapaksha Navami in Surya Hora. This gives the clue to the applicable dasa. Shodasottari dasa is applicable(Rahu the governor is associated with AK Rahu). Sun is the lord of Upapada and is placed in 2nd from it. Buda is the other dasa governor whose dasa is also applicable but has been sidelined by Rahu on account of his close proximity with AK Mars. As per the shodasottari dasa you are currently running the dasa of Buda and antardasa of Sun. The argala caused by Vakra Sani is obstructed by Guru in lagna. With reference to UL this Sani is placed in 10th and has been obstructing the intervention of Guru. Let us see what this vakra sani has been contemplating over these years. Let us look at your D-60. This sani has joined hands with AK mars and has caused sorrow to the lagna lord and natural pitrikaraka Sun. We see a pitri saapa in the past birth. The lagna in the past birth is incidentally your UL in the current birth. Buda the 9th lord with reference to UL is placed in marana karaka sthana. Death came on account of the pitri saapa in the previous birth. Marriage is the most likely cause of this saapa as we find the UL and A7 together in Libra, where the graha arudas of the 7th lord and lagna lord conjoin. Let us see your Navamsa where Makara lagna rises with buda the dara karaka in it. This Buda is subject to the machinations of Mars from 7th and Sani from 4th houses respectively. We also find the kalatra karaka venus being put to hardships by Rahu and Sani. The period when Guru transits the 2nd from UL can be of great help in bringing the spouse who is residing in a place within your reach. Perform the remedial measures for clearance from pitri saapa. Observe fast on Sundays and donate food packets/food grains to the nearby temple. Help funding the marriage of a poor girl. Chant "NAMASIVAAYAI CHA NAMASIVAAYA" 324 times a day. Worship MATA BHAGAVATI fervently. Best wishes. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan.Hari M <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Visti, Namaste. What about Saturn in 7th? I remember that Guruji also told that Sa in 7th doesnt usually delay the marriage. Could you please examine my chart (attached) and give your opinion as to what is the delaying factor for marriage? regards HariVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Prabodh, Namaskar In the charts of Shailesh Chada and his wife, both have Saturn in Lagna and there was no marriage delay. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush Jr, Al Gore, Indira Gandhi, Sonya Gandhi, all have Cancer Lagna with Saturn in it and their marriage was not delayed. Where did you get this dictum from? Instead Saturn in Lagna for Cancer can give a major Räjya Yoga and success in politics. It is actually Mars which causes delay in marriage, through Kuja Dosha, and will not give successful relations until after the 28th year. In my opinion she will marry at 31. However it will not be a conventional/traditional marriage (Sädhu Yoga in the Upapada). Lastly and more importantly - who wants to know? Asking about another persons chart with regards to relationships and marriage can be used for the wrong purposes. Yours, Visti Larsenvisti (AT) (DOT) org amolmandar [amolmandar ] 16 August 2004 06:58To: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Delay or denial of marriage Dear Ramesh NamasteSaturn in lagna usually delays the marriage and she is already 28+. Moreover, Sa is transiting in lagna in near future and that way will aspect its own 7th house. At the same time Ju will be in trine to 7th house So there is chance of her marriage. Another point is that the 5th lord is debiliated and vargittam,weak in deg., and lord of UL as well. The sthira putrakarak is 6th to 5th house. So trouble causing grahas are Mars and Jupiter. Askl her to wear Moonga in gold in Anamika on any Tuesday. Ask her to perform Shivalinga pooja daily with water and Dahi. Fast on Tuesday will give best results. This should help her.Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh Vekhande--- In vedic astrology, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> wrote:> Jai Jagannath Jee Ki,> Pranam to all my fellow members, I am knew to this group Can you please clarify my querry. I shall be thankfull to all of you.The querry is:> A girl born on 06/05/76 at 10:34 AM at tejpur(Assam) is still unmarried and there is no chance in 2004.> I checked up her chart and found that kalatrakarak venus is afflicted in 10 th House.Jupiter the karaka for husband in female chart is combust and posited in Aries whose lord Mars is debilitated in lagna and conjoined with 7th lord Saturn a malefic.> The only positive sign of marriage is that the LL Moon and 7L saturn is together in lagna afflicted by debilitated Mars.> When we checked up the D9 lagna is scorpio whose lord Mars condition is weak Venus here also afflicted by Mars .Moon is afflicted by Rahu and Ketu Jup. is alongwith a malefic saturn.> The positive sign is here also that LL and 7L are together in 9th house.> Now the query is that will her be marriage settled ,if so when, or is there denial of marriage due to afflicted and combust Jup and afflicted Venus.> Her present MD/AD is KETU/VENUS up to 29-10-2004 and then AD of New">SUN starts.> Kindly help me.> Jai sri Krishna > From Ramesh Mishraaarceemastro2002> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Dear Shri Ramanarayanan, Well, I had posed the query in the context of seeking to understand the principles behind the timing of delayed marriage. But nevertheless, thank you for your analysis and as always it is a pleasure to read your emails. The popular perception about Sani is that it generally delays the fruits of the houses influenced by it and as Visti showed with a few examples, that Sa in lagna need not always delay the event of marriage by virtue of its aspect on the 7th house. Of course, all the examples that he quoted were Sa in Cancer lagna and since Sa happens to be the 7th lord for these examples, we may take it as confirmation of the principle that if a lord happens to aspect its own house, then it is good for that house. Now for the case analysed by Prabodh, Visti said that it is the Kuja dosha that would cause delay in marriage for the said case. As far as my understanding goes, Kuja dosha is used more in assessing the compatibility of the couple and by itself, would not be enough to delay the event of marriage. But Visti implied that this was the case and hence I posed the query to find out whether the same logic used by him applied in my case also. I await Visti's reply in this regard. Coming to your analysis, it is interesting to see that you have not taken the recorded birth time and rectified it by about 5 mins. Have you used pranapada technique to rectify the birth time? Or is this after consideration of shastyamsa? Because the AK is conjoined Ra, the governer of Shodasottari dasa, would you give more preference to this dasa scheme than the normal Vimsottari Dasa? I seek your advise on this. You have made some interesting points in the analysis. You wrote "Buda the 9th lord with reference to UL is placed in marana karaka sthana..." I assume you are referring to UL in shastyamsa chart, is it not? In D-60, Me is placed in 5th from UL (Libra) which is not maranakarakasthana (Me in 7th). Maybe this is a typo. As for death being due to the pitri shaapa (because it occurs in the 3rd from AL), it is my understanding that curses do not cause death but suffering in the past life. This curse occurring in the 9th from UL, it is possible that I may not have had any children in the immediate past life but the death itself may have occurred due to some terrible fire accidents (Sun (heat), Mars (Rudra) & Sa (vayu tatva) in a vayu tatva rasi). I seek your opinion on this. Of course it is all speculation but since you have made these points, I would like to enhance my understanding. As a side note, I was involved in a chemical plant blast during my research stint in France but escaped with few injuries including a slight altering of the coccyx bone which sits in the mooladhara chakra area. The conjunction of the graha arudhas of the D-60 lagna & 7th lord in UL may show that I was married in the immediate past life. Is this thinking correct? If so, would this show a means to differentiate whether one was married or not in the past life? Quite interesting. Regarding the navamsa analysis, Sanjayji is not convinced about the validity of my navamsa lagna. He believes that it should be Sg navamsa lagna and I am doubtful because the margin of birthtime correction for this navamsa lagna is more than 10 minutes while my mother insists that the recorded birthtime is correct. This is for your information. However the points that you make about Me being under affliction from Ma and Sa are correct. Worth noting that both Ma and Sa are debilitated in navamsa. Regarding the remedial measures suggested by you, Shri Ramadas Rao has already analysed my case about a year back and gave some remedies which are roughly in line with what you suggested. He gave me a Durga mantra for spouse which I duly completed early this year. I am aware that Moon is badhakesh (rasi chart) and that most of the planets in my chart are in the nakshatras owned by Moon. So I do the 32 names of Durga chanting every Monday. I also do two Jyotirlinga mantra prayer plus istadevata (Lakshmi & Srinivasa) prayer and rudram chamakkam daily. I have been toying with the idea of fasting on Sunday (UL) but as usual the flesh is weak. Besides I have problems with my career which I must resolve first and it does not help me that UL is also the 10th house in rasi! You said that the spouse is "at a place within my reach"...is this because of 7th from Ve being a dual sign? Do you not consider also where the lord of 7th from Ve is placed (Ma in a movable sign)? I have some more questions but will stop here and wait for your reply. regards Harirama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: SARVAM GYANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Hari, i understand that the question has been addressed to Visti. i also understand that the question has been posed in this forum. i therefore hope you will not mind me writing this. i had taken the birth time as 11hours 6minutes and 5 secs. Vrischika lagna is rising with Guru in it. You were born on Suklapaksha Navami in Surya Hora. This gives the clue to the applicable dasa. Shodasottari dasa is applicable(Rahu the governor is associated with AK Mars). Sun is the lord of Upapada and is placed in 2nd from it. Buda is the other dasa governor whose dasa is also applicable but has been sidelined by Rahu on account of his close proximity with AK Mars. As per the shodasottari dasa you are currently running the dasa of Buda and antardasa of Sun. The argala caused by Vakra Sani is obstructed by Guru in lagna. With reference to UL this Sani is placed in 10th and has been obstructing the intervention of Guru. Let us see what this vakra sani has been contemplating over these years. Let us look at your D-60. This sani has joined hands with AK mars and has caused sorrow to the lagna lord and natural pitrikaraka Sun. We see a pitri saapa in the past birth. The lagna in the past birth is incidentally your UL in the current birth. Buda the 9th lord with reference to UL is placed in marana karaka sthana. Death came on account of the pitri saapa in the previous birth. Marriage is the most likely cause of this saapa as we find the UL and A7 together in Libra, where the graha arudas of the 7th lord and lagna lord conjoin. Let us see your Navamsa where Makara lagna rises with buda the dara karaka in it. This Buda is subject to the machinations of Mars from 7th and Sani from 4th houses respectively. We also find the kalatra karaka venus being put to hardships by Rahu and Sani. The period when Guru transits the 2nd from UL can be of great help in bringing the spouse who is residing in a place within your reach. Perform the remedial measures for clearance from pitri saapa. Observe fast on Sundays and donate food packets/food grains to the nearby temple. Help funding the marriage of a poor girl. Chant "NAMASIVAAYAI CHA NAMASIVAAYA" 324 times a day. Worship MATA BHAGAVATI fervently. Best wishes. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan.Hari M <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Visti, Namaste. What about Saturn in 7th? I remember that Guruji also told that Sa in 7th doesnt usually delay the marriage. Could you please examine my chart (attached) and give your opinion as to what is the delaying factor for marriage? regards HariVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Prabodh, Namaskar In the charts of Shailesh Chada and his wife, both have Saturn in Lagna and there was no marriage delay. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush Jr, Al Gore, Indira Gandhi, Sonya Gandhi, all have Cancer Lagna with Saturn in it and their marriage was not delayed. Where did you get this dictum from? Instead Saturn in Lagna for Cancer can give a major Räjya Yoga and success in politics. It is actually Mars which causes delay in marriage, through Kuja Dosha, and will not give successful relations until after the 28th year. In my opinion she will marry at 31. However it will not be a conventional/traditional marriage (Sädhu Yoga in the Upapada). Lastly and more importantly - who wants to know? Asking about another persons chart with regards to relationships and marriage can be used for the wrong purposes. Yours, Visti Larsenvisti (AT) (DOT) org amolmandar [amolmandar ] 16 August 2004 06:58To: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Delay or denial of marriage Dear Ramesh NamasteSaturn in lagna usually delays the marriage and she is already 28+. Moreover, Sa is transiting in lagna in near future and that way will aspect its own 7th house. At the same time Ju will be in trine to 7th house So there is chance of her marriage. Another point is that the 5th lord is debiliated and vargittam,weak in deg., and lord of UL as well. The sthira putrakarak is 6th to 5th house. So trouble causing grahas are Mars and Jupiter. Askl her to wear Moonga in gold in Anamika on any Tuesday. Ask her to perform Shivalinga pooja daily with water and Dahi. Fast on Tuesday will give best results. This should help her.Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh Vekhande--- In vedic astrology, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> wrote:> Jai Jagannath Jee Ki,> Pranam to all my fellow members, I am knew to this group Can you please clarify my querry. I shall be thankfull to all of you.The querry is:> A girl born on 06/05/76 at 10:34 AM at tejpur(Assam) is still unmarried and there is no chance in 2004.> I checked up her chart and found that kalatrakarak venus is afflicted in 10 th House.Jupiter the karaka for husband in female chart is combust and posited in Aries whose lord Mars is debilitated in lagna and conjoined with 7th lord Saturn a malefic.> The only positive sign of marriage is that the LL Moon and 7L saturn is together in lagna afflicted by debilitated Mars.> When we checked up the D9 lagna is scorpio whose lord Mars condition is weak Venus here also afflicted by Mars .Moon is afflicted by Rahu and Ketu Jup. is alongwith a malefic saturn.> The positive sign is here also that LL and 7L are together in 9th house.> Now the query is that will her be marriage settled ,if so when, or is there denial of marriage due to afflicted and combust Jup and afflicted Venus.> Her present MD/AD is KETU/VENUS up to 29-10-2004 and then AD of New">SUN starts.> Kindly help me.> Jai sri Krishna > From Ramesh Mishraaarceemastro2002> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Hari, Namaskar Kuja Dosha can go to the extent of killing the spouse! Its not used for compatibility alone. You do not have Kuja Dosha, but you do have Mars as Ätmakäraka who is the (forced) brahmachari. As Mars lords the 6th house it is confirmed that the Atma will put up a strong fight against marriage, and may delay it quite a bit – usually until 44. Now I could not with any conviction say that this is for all Mars AK’s who have Gemini or Scorpio Lagna, unless Mars was also placed in the 7th from UL, or being Badhakesh from UL. In your case UL is in Leo and for Leo, Mars becomes Badhakesh. It is very important to check the Ätmakäraka in queries regarding marriage – when the Atma decides something, no-one can say otherwise. Hence the reason why Päräçara and Kalidasa equate the Ätmakäraka to the king of the chart! Usually when these things happen, the native is very concerned with being properly settled in life before getting married – as a result they tend to postpone their marriage indefinitely for, at times – odd reasons. Truth is that they will be more settled after marriage, as that is when Laxmi enters the home – before that their lives are perpetually in postponement of marriage, and fully concentrated on their career and all other matters. So the remedy I would advise is Ishta Mantra. Sagittarius Navämça is 7 minutes earlier than the time you have given. Yours, bold">Visti Larsen color:#4E81C4"> visti (AT) (DOT) org Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Hari M [onlyhari ] 17 August 2004 10:38 rama narayanan; Visti Larsen; vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Delay or denial of marriage 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Shri Ramanarayanan, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Well, I had posed the query in the context of seeking to understand the principles behind the timing of delayed marriage. But nevertheless, thank you for your analysis and as always it is a pleasure to read your emails. The popular perception about Sani is that it generally delays the fruits of the houses influenced by it and as Visti showed with a few examples, that Sa in lagna need not always delay the event of marriage by virtue of its aspect on the 7th house. Of course, all the examples that he quoted were Sa in Cancer lagna and since Sa happens to be the 7th lord for these examples, we may take it as confirmation of the principle that if a lord happens to aspect its own house, then it is good for that house. Now for the case analysed by Prabodh, Visti said that it is the Kuja dosha that would cause delay in marriage for the said case. As far as my understanding goes, Kuja dosha is used more in assessing the compatibility of the couple and by itself, would not be enough to delay the event of marriage. But Visti implied that this was the case and hence I posed the query to find out whether the same logic used by him applied in my case also. I await Visti's reply in this regard. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Coming to your analysis, it is interesting to see that you have not taken the recorded birth time and rectified it by about 5 mins. Have you used pranapada technique to rectify the birth time? Or is this after consideration of shastyamsa? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Because the AK is conjoined Ra, the governer of Shodasottari dasa, would you give more preference to this dasa scheme than the normal Vimsottari Dasa? I seek your advise on this. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">You have made some interesting points in the analysis. You wrote "Buda the 9th lord with reference to UL is placed in marana karaka sthana..." I assume you are referring to UL in shastyamsa chart, is it not? In D-60, Me is placed in 5th from UL (Libra) which is not maranakarakasthana (Me in 7th). Maybe this is a typo. As for death being due to the pitri shaapa (because it occurs in the 3rd from AL), it is my understanding that curses do not cause death but suffering in the past life. This curse occurring in the 9th from UL, it is possible that I may not have had any children in the immediate past life but the death itself may have occurred due to some terrible fire accidents (Sun (heat), Mars (Rudra) & Sa (vayu tatva) in a vayu tatva rasi). I seek your opinion on this. Of course it is all speculation but since you have made these points, I would like to enhance my understanding. As a side note, I was involved in a chemical plant blast during my research stint in France but escaped with few injuries including a slight altering of the coccyx bone which sits in the mooladhara chakra area. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">The conjunction of the graha arudhas of the D-60 lagna & 7th lord in UL may show that I was married in the immediate past life. Is this thinking correct? If so, would this show a means to differentiate whether one was married or not in the past life? Quite interesting. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Regarding the navamsa analysis, Sanjayji is not convinced about the validity of my navamsa lagna. He believes that it should be Sg navamsa lagna and I am doubtful because the margin of birthtime correction for this navamsa lagna is more than 10 minutes while my mother insists that the recorded birthtime is correct. This is for your information. However the points that you make about Me being under affliction from Ma and Sa are correct. Worth noting that both Ma and Sa are debilitated in navamsa. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Regarding the remedial measures suggested by you, Shri Ramadas Rao has already analysed my case about a year back and gave some remedies which are roughly in line with what you suggested. He gave me a Durga mantra for spouse which I duly completed early this year. I am aware that Moon is badhakesh (rasi chart) and that most of the planets in my chart are in the nakshatras owned by Moon. So I do the 32 names of Durga chanting every Monday. I also do two Jyotirlinga mantra prayer plus istadevata (Lakshmi & Srinivasa) prayer and rudram chamakkam daily. I have been toying with the idea of fasting on Sunday (UL) but as usual the flesh is weak. Besides I have problems with my career which I must resolve first and it does not help me that UL is also the 10th house in rasi! You said that the spouse is "at a place within my reach"...is this because of 7th from Ve being a dual sign? Do you not consider also where the lord of 7th from Ve is placed (Ma in a movable sign)? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">I have some more questions but will stop here and wait for your reply. 12.0pt">regards 12.0pt">Hari rama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> SARVAM GYANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Hari, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">i understand that the question has been addressed to Visti. i also understand that the question has been posed in this forum. i therefore hope you will not mind me writing this. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">i had taken the birth time as 11hours 6minutes and 5 secs. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Vrischika lagna is rising with Guru in it. You were born on Suklapaksha Navami in Surya Hora. This gives the clue to the applicable dasa. Shodasottari dasa is applicable(Rahu the governor is associated with AK Mars). Sun is the lord of Upapada and is placed in 2nd from it. Buda is the other dasa governor whose dasa is also applicable but has been sidelined by Rahu on account of his close proximity with AK Mars. As per the shodasottari dasa you are currently running the dasa of Buda and antardasa of Sun. The argala caused by Vakra Sani is obstructed by Guru in lagna. With reference to UL this Sani is placed in 10th and has been obstructing the intervention of Guru. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Let us see what this vakra sani has been contemplating over these years. Let us look at your D-60. This sani has joined hands with AK mars and has caused sorrow to the lagna lord and natural pitrikaraka Sun. We see a pitri saapa in the past birth. The lagna in the past birth is incidentally your UL in the current birth. Buda the 9th lord with reference to UL is placed in marana karaka sthana. Death came on account of the pitri saapa in the previous birth. Marriage is the most likely cause of this saapa as we find the UL and A7 together in Libra, where the graha arudas of the 7th lord and lagna lord conjoin. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Let us see your Navamsa where Makara lagna rises with buda the dara karaka in it. This Buda is subject to the machinations of Mars from 7th and Sani from 4th houses respectively. We also find the kalatra karaka venus being put to hardships by Rahu and Sani. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">The period when Guru transits the 2nd from UL can be of great help in bringing the spouse who is residing in a place within your reach. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Perform the remedial measures for clearance from pitri saapa. Observe fast on Sundays and donate food packets/food grains to the nearby temple. Help funding the marriage of a poor girl. Chant "NAMASIVAAYAI CHA NAMASIVAAYA" 324 times a day. Worship MATA BHAGAVATI fervently. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Best wishes. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Astrologically yours, 12.0pt">p.s.ramanarayanan. Hari M <onlyhari > wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> 12.0pt">||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Namaste. What about Saturn in 7th? I remember that Guruji also told that Sa in 7th doesnt usually delay the marriage. Could you please examine my chart (attached) and give your opinion as to what is the delaying factor for marriage? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">regards 12.0pt">Hari Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Prabodh, Namaskar In the charts of Shailesh Chada and his wife, both have Saturn in Lagna and there was no marriage delay. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush Jr, Al Gore, Indira Gandhi, Sonya Gandhi, all have Cancer Lagna with Saturn in it and their marriage was not delayed. Where did you get this dictum from? Instead Saturn in Lagna for Cancer can give a major Rdjya Yoga and success in politics. It is actually Mars which causes delay in marriage, through Kuja Dosha, and will not give successful relations until after the 28th year. In my opinion she will marry at 31. However it will not be a conventional/traditional marriage (Sddhu Yoga in the Upapada). Lastly and more importantly - who wants to know? Asking about another persons chart with regards to relationships and marriage can be used for the wrong purposes. Yours, bold">Visti Larsen color:#4E81C4"> visti (AT) (DOT) org font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">amolmandar [amolmandar ] 16 August 2004 06:58 To: vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Delay or denial of marriage 12.0pt"> Dear Ramesh Namaste Saturn in lagna usually delays the marriage and she is already 28+. Moreover, Sa is transiting in lagna in near future and that way will aspect its own 7th house. At the same time Ju will be in trine to 7th house So there is chance of her marriage. Another point is that the 5th lord is debiliated and vargittam,weak in deg., and lord of UL as well. The sthira putrakarak is 6th to 5th house. So trouble causing grahas are Mars and Jupiter. Askl her to wear Moonga in gold in Anamika on any Tuesday. Ask her to perform Shivalinga pooja daily with water and Dahi. Fast on Tuesday will give best results. This should help her. Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande vedic astrology, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> wrote: > Jai Jagannath Jee Ki, > Pranam to all my fellow members, I am knew to this group Can you please clarify my querry. I shall be thankfull to all of you.The querry is: > A girl born on 06/05/76 at 10:34 AM at tejpur(Assam) is still unmarried and there is no chance in 2004. > I checked up her chart and found that kalatrakarak venus is afflicted in 10 th House.Jupiter the karaka for husband in female chart is combust and posited in Aries whose lord Mars is debilitated in lagna and conjoined with 7th lord Saturn a malefic. > The only positive sign of marriage is that the LL Moon and 7L saturn is together in lagna afflicted by debilitated Mars. > When we checked up the D9 lagna is scorpio whose lord Mars condition is weak Venus here also afflicted by Mars .Moon is afflicted by Rahu and Ketu Jup. is alongwith a malefic saturn. > The positive sign is here also that LL and 7L are together in 9th house. > Now the query is that will her be marriage settled ,if so when, or is there denial of marriage due to afflicted and combust Jup and afflicted Venus. > Her present MD/AD is KETU/VENUS up to 29-10-2004 and then AD of SUN starts. > Kindly help me. > Jai sri Krishna > From Ramesh Mishraaarceemastro2002 > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. 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Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Dear Hari I have seen another similar chart(Ramesh ji's initial post),with saturn and mars in cancer,except for moon in lagna.Early marriage had happened which lasted just for 1 day.A second marriage was possible after a delay of 6 years,but that happened because of divine blessings from a spiritual guru(Gods grace). Otherwise the marriage/happiness from marriage ,may not manifest before the age of 32.Eventhough married,the individual is not fully happy.Thus i believe saturn may not be a trouble giver for early marriage,when alone in cancer.But when he joins debiltated mars there can be a combined effect. Many astrologers are of the opinion that as per the horoscope, time is yet to come(32 yeras) for the marriage.Thus i beleive as Vistiji has pointed out, Mars causes delay in marriage/happiness(if married).As you have said, Saturn will protect the 7th house by aspect, more so as capricorn is its own sign.Shri K.Karunakaran, 4 times chief minister of kerala,had saturn in cancer in 3rd house.Apart from giving Raja yoga, saturns 7th house aspect on 9th makara),gave him tremendous luck.He rose from nothing - a union leader in a spinning mill to cheif minister,Cabinet minister and working committe member of congress party.I remember once chandrashekhar ji mentioning about debilitated jupiter in lagna better than exalted in the 7th for makara lagna.Reason being the aspect of jupiter on its exaltation sign. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, Hari M <onlyhari> wrote: > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Shri Ramanarayanan, > > Well, I had posed the query in the context of seeking to understand the principles behind the timing of delayed marriage. But nevertheless, thank you for your analysis and as always it is a pleasure to read your emails. The popular perception about Sani is that it generally delays the fruits of the houses influenced by it and as Visti showed with a few examples, that Sa in lagna need not always delay the event of marriage by virtue of its aspect on the 7th house. Of course, all the examples that he quoted were Sa in Cancer lagna and since Sa happens to be the 7th lord for these examples, we may take it as confirmation of the principle that if a lord happens to aspect its own house, then it is good for that house. Now for the case analysed by Prabodh, Visti said that it is the Kuja dosha that would cause delay in marriage for the said case. As far as my understanding goes, Kuja dosha is used more in assessing the compatibility of the couple and by itself, would not be enough to delay > the event of marriage. But Visti implied that this was the case and hence I posed the query to find out whether the same logic used by him applied in my case also. I await Visti's reply in this regard. > > Coming to your analysis, it is interesting to see that you have not taken the recorded birth time and rectified it by about 5 mins. Have you used pranapada technique to rectify the birth time? Or is this after consideration of shastyamsa? > > Because the AK is conjoined Ra, the governer of Shodasottari dasa, would you give more preference to this dasa scheme than the normal Vimsottari Dasa? I seek your advise on this. > > You have made some interesting points in the analysis. You wrote "Buda the 9th lord with reference to UL is placed in marana karaka sthana..." I assume you are referring to UL in shastyamsa chart, is it not? In D-60, Me is placed in 5th from UL (Libra) which is not maranakarakasthana (Me in 7th). Maybe this is a typo. As for death being due to the pitri shaapa (because it occurs in the 3rd from AL), it is my understanding that curses do not cause death but suffering in the past life. This curse occurring in the 9th from UL, it is possible that I may not have had any children in the immediate past life but the death itself may have occurred due to some terrible fire accidents (Sun (heat), Mars (Rudra) & Sa (vayu tatva) in a vayu tatva rasi). I seek your opinion on this. Of course it is all speculation but since you have made these points, I would like to enhance my understanding. As a side note, I was involved in a chemical plant blast during my research stint in France but escaped > with few injuries including a slight altering of the coccyx bone which sits in the mooladhara chakra area. > > The conjunction of the graha arudhas of the D-60 lagna & 7th lord in UL may show that I was married in the immediate past life. Is this thinking correct? If so, would this show a means to differentiate whether one was married or not in the past life? Quite interesting. > > Regarding the navamsa analysis, Sanjayji is not convinced about the validity of my navamsa lagna. He believes that it should be Sg navamsa lagna and I am doubtful because the margin of birthtime correction for this navamsa lagna is more than 10 minutes while my mother insists that the recorded birthtime is correct. This is for your information. However the points that you make about Me being under affliction from Ma and Sa are correct. Worth noting that both Ma and Sa are debilitated in navamsa. > > Regarding the remedial measures suggested by you, Shri Ramadas Rao has already analysed my case about a year back and gave some remedies which are roughly in line with what you suggested. He gave me a Durga mantra for spouse which I duly completed early this year. I am aware that Moon is badhakesh (rasi chart) and that most of the planets in my chart are in the nakshatras owned by Moon. So I do the 32 names of Durga chanting every Monday. I also do two Jyotirlinga mantra prayer plus istadevata (Lakshmi & Srinivasa) prayer and rudram chamakkam daily. I have been toying with the idea of fasting on Sunday (UL) but as usual the flesh is weak. Besides I have problems with my career which I must resolve first and it does not help me that UL is also the 10th house in rasi! You said that the spouse is "at a place within my reach"...is this because of 7th from Ve being a dual sign? Do you not consider also where the lord of 7th from Ve is placed (Ma in a movable sign)? > > I have some more questions but will stop here and wait for your reply. > regards > Hari > > rama narayanan <sree88ganesha> wrote: > SARVAM GYANANDAMAYAM > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > Dear Hari, > > i understand that the question has been addressed to Visti. i also understand that the question has been posed in this forum. i therefore hope you will not mind me writing this. > > i had taken the birth time as 11hours 6minutes and 5 secs. > > Vrischika lagna is rising with Guru in it. You were born on Suklapaksha Navami in Surya Hora. This gives the clue to the applicable dasa. Shodasottari dasa is applicable(Rahu the governor is associated with AK Mars). Sun is the lord of Upapada and is placed in 2nd from it. Buda is the other dasa governor whose dasa is also applicable but has been sidelined by Rahu on account of his close proximity with AK Mars. As per the shodasottari dasa you are currently running the dasa of Buda and antardasa of Sun. The argala caused by Vakra Sani is obstructed by Guru in lagna. With reference to UL this Sani is placed in 10th and has been obstructing the intervention of Guru. > > Let us see what this vakra sani has been contemplating over these years. Let us look at your D-60. This sani has joined hands with AK mars and has caused sorrow to the lagna lord and natural pitrikaraka Sun. We see a pitri saapa in the past birth. The lagna in the past birth is incidentally your UL in the current birth. Buda the 9th lord with reference to UL is placed in marana karaka sthana. Death came on account of the pitri saapa in the previous birth. Marriage is the most likely cause of this saapa as we find the UL and A7 together in Libra, where the graha arudas of the 7th lord and lagna lord conjoin. > > Let us see your Navamsa where Makara lagna rises with buda the dara karaka in it. This Buda is subject to the machinations of Mars from 7th and Sani from 4th houses respectively. We also find the kalatra karaka venus being put to hardships by Rahu and Sani. > > The period when Guru transits the 2nd from UL can be of great help in bringing the spouse who is residing in a place within your reach. > > Perform the remedial measures for clearance from pitri saapa. Observe fast on Sundays and donate food packets/food grains to the nearby temple. Help funding the marriage of a poor girl. Chant "NAMASIVAAYAI CHA NAMASIVAAYA" 324 times a day. Worship MATA BHAGAVATI fervently. > > Best wishes. > > Astrologically yours, > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > Hari M <onlyhari> wrote: > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Visti, > > Namaste. What about Saturn in 7th? I remember that Guruji also told that Sa in 7th doesnt usually delay the marriage. Could you please examine my chart (attached) and give your opinion as to what is the delaying factor for marriage? > > regards > Hari > > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote: > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear Prabodh, Namaskar > > In the charts of Shailesh Chada and his wife, both have Saturn in Lagna and there was no marriage delay. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush Jr, Al Gore, Indira Gandhi, Sonya Gandhi, all have Cancer Lagna with Saturn in it and their marriage was not delayed. Where did you get this dictum from? Instead Saturn in Lagna for Cancer can give a major Räjya Yoga and success in politics. > > > > It is actually Mars which causes delay in marriage, through Kuja Dosha, and will not give successful relations until after the 28th year. In my opinion she will marry at 31. However it will not be a conventional/traditional marriage (Sädhu Yoga in the Upapada). > > > > Lastly and more importantly - who wants to know? Asking about another persons chart with regards to relationships and marriage can be used for the wrong purposes. > > > > Yours, > > > > Visti Larsen > visti@s... > > > > > amolmandar [amolmandar] > 16 August 2004 06:58 > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Delay or denial of marriage > > > > > Dear Ramesh Namaste > > Saturn in lagna usually delays the marriage and she is already 28+. > Moreover, Sa is transiting in lagna in near future and that way will > aspect its own 7th house. At the same time Ju will be in trine to > 7th house So there is chance of her marriage. Another point is that > the 5th lord is debiliated and vargittam,weak in deg., and lord of > UL as well. The sthira putrakarak is 6th to 5th house. So trouble > causing grahas are Mars and Jupiter. Askl her to wear Moonga in gold > in Anamika on any Tuesday. Ask her to perform Shivalinga pooja daily > with water and Dahi. Fast on Tuesday will give best results. This > should help her. > > Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce. > > > Prabodh Vekhande > vedic astrology, ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002> wrote: > > Jai Jagannath Jee Ki, > > Pranam to all my fellow members, I am knew to this group Can you > please clarify my querry. I shall be thankfull to all of you.The > querry is: > > A girl born on 06/05/76 at 10:34 AM at tejpur(Assam) is still > unmarried and there is no chance in 2004. > > I checked up her chart and found that kalatrakarak venus is > afflicted in 10 th House.Jupiter the karaka for husband in female > chart is combust and posited in Aries whose lord Mars is debilitated > in lagna and conjoined with 7th lord Saturn a malefic. > > The only positive sign of marriage is that the LL Moon and 7L > saturn is together in lagna afflicted by debilitated Mars. > > When we checked up the D9 lagna is scorpio whose lord Mars > condition is weak Venus here also afflicted by Mars .Moon is > afflicted by Rahu and Ketu Jup. is alongwith a malefic saturn. > > The positive sign is here also that LL and 7L are together in 9th > house. > > Now the query is that will her be marriage settled ,if so when, or > is there denial of marriage due to afflicted and combust Jup and > afflicted Venus. > > Her present MD/AD is KETU/VENUS up to 29-10-2004 and then AD of > SUN starts. > > Kindly help me. > > Jai sri Krishna > > From Ramesh Mishraaarceemastro2002 > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Dear Visti, Namaste. My points below. regards HariVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Hari, Namaskar Kuja Dosha can go to the extent of killing the spouse! Its not used for compatibility alone. You do not have Kuja Dosha, but you do have Mars as Ätmakäraka who is the [Hari] It looks as if you judge Kuja dosha only with respect to lagna and not additionally with respect to Moon/Venus as is done commonly in South India. (forced) brahmachari. As Mars lords the 6th house it is confirmed that the Atma will put up a strong fight against marriage, and may delay it quite a bit – usually until 44. [Hari] Quite the opposite actually. When I was doing my undergraduate course, I rather fancied a girl in my class...no fireworks happened however. In the final year of my PhD program at around 28/29 (natural age of Mars?), I told my mom to start looking for marriage proposals for me, a request which was turned down on the grounds that I did not have any financial support then. I have had quarrels with my mom and brother about the direction in which searches for marriage proposals were going and they felt I was being too pushy or immature. Now I could not with any conviction say that this is for all Mars AK’s who have Gemini or Scorpio Lagna, unless Mars was also placed in the 7th from UL, or being Badhakesh from UL. In your case UL is in Leo and for Leo, Mars becomes Badhakesh. [Hari] As I told above, I've hardly put up any fight against the notion of getting married and for that matter, my family have hardly pressurised me to get married! Two different things however. Dont you consider that Aries besides being badhakesh for Leo is also the 9th from UL and its lord is exalted in a trine to UL lord? Basis for this question is that the grahas show the desire and not the sign itself. It is however conjoined the 7th lord from UL... It is very important to check the Ätmakäraka in queries regarding marriage – when the Atma decides something, no-one can say otherwise. Hence the reason why Päräçara and Kalidasa equate the Ätmakäraka to the king of the chart! Usually when these things happen, the native is very concerned with being properly settled in life before getting married – as a result they tend to postpone their marriage indefinitely for, at times – odd reasons. Truth is that they will be more settled after marriage, as that is when Laxmi enters the home – before that their lives are perpetually in postponement of marriage, and fully concentrated on their career and all other matters. [Hari] Very true, I agree. I always felt that if I got married, I would become more happy & calm and stay focused. But my family doesnt agree with this view preferring perhaps that I put the horse in front of the cart. So the remedy I would advise is Ishta Mantra. Sagittarius Navämça is 7 minutes earlier than the time you have given. [Hari] Thanks. Chanting the istadevata mantra daily. My mistake about the Sg navamsa...actually when I rectified the siddhamsa, then the margin is more than 10 mins. New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Hari, Namaskar I must clarify – what your atma wants is not necessarily what you want. It’s only the luckiest who want what their Atma wants, and have their Karakamsa joined with the Navämça Lagna. So when I say that your atma is obstructing marriage, I didn’t mean you were. Keep that very firmly in mind. The Atma is only riding the chariot. The charioteer is the mind! Yours, bold">Visti Larsen color:#4E81C4"> visti (AT) (DOT) org Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Hari M [onlyhari ] 17 August 2004 13:17 Visti Larsen; vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Delay or denial of marriage 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Namaste. My points below. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">regards 12.0pt">Hari Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Hari, Namaskar Kuja Dosha can go to the extent of killing the spouse! Its not used for compatibility alone. You do not have Kuja Dosha, but you do have Mars as Dtmakdraka who is the [Hari] It looks as if you judge Kuja dosha only with respect to lagna and not additionally with respect to Moon/Venus as is done commonly in South India. 12.0pt"> (forced) brahmachari. As Mars lords the 6th house it is confirmed that the Atma will put up a strong fight against marriage, and may delay it quite a bit usually until 44. [Hari] Quite the opposite actually. When I was doing my undergraduate course, I rather fancied a girl in my class...no fireworks happened however. In the final year of my PhD program at around 28/29 (natural age of Mars?), I told my mom to start looking for marriage proposals for me, a request which was turned down on the grounds that I did not have any financial support then. I have had quarrels with my mom and brother about the direction in which searches for marriage proposals were going and they felt I was being too pushy or immature. 12.0pt"> Now I could not with any conviction say that this is for all Mars AKs who have Gemini or Scorpio Lagna, unless Mars was also placed in the 7th from UL, or being Badhakesh from UL. In your case UL is in Leo and for Leo, Mars becomes Badhakesh. [Hari] As I told above, I've hardly put up any fight against the notion of getting married and for that matter, my family have hardly pressurised me to get married! Two different things however. Dont you consider that Aries besides being badhakesh for Leo is also the 9th from UL and its lord is exalted in a trine to UL lord? Basis for this question is that the grahas show the desire and not the sign itself. It is however conjoined the 7th lord from UL... 12.0pt"> It is very important to check the Dtmakdraka in queries regarding marriage when the Atma decides something, no-one can say otherwise. Hence the reason why Pdrdgara and Kalidasa equate the Dtmakdraka to the king of the chart! Usually when these things happen, the native is very concerned with being properly settled in life before getting married as a result they tend to postpone their marriage indefinitely for, at times odd reasons. Truth is that they will be more settled after marriage, as that is when Laxmi enters the home before that their lives are perpetually in postponement of marriage, and fully concentrated on their career and all other matters. [Hari] Very true, I agree. I always felt that if I got married, I would become more happy & calm and stay focused. But my family doesnt agree with this view preferring perhaps that I put the horse in front of the cart. 12.0pt"> So the remedy I would advise is Ishta Mantra. Sagittarius Navdmga is 7 minutes earlier than the time you have given. [Hari] Thanks. Chanting the istadevata mantra daily. My mistake about the Sg navamsa...actually when I rectified the siddhamsa, then the margin is more than 10 mins. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Attachment: (image/jpeg) image001.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Dear Pradeep, For the length of the marriage, we should see afflictions to the 2nd from UL. Your example shows that by itself, Sa will not delay the event of marriage. What is the basis of this 32 years....age of Jupiter is 32 years coincidentally. Your point about Ju being better in 1st house of Cp lagna than 7th house is interesting and it needs to be confirmed by studies. regards Harivijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: Dear Hari I have seen another similar chart(Ramesh ji's initial post),with saturn and mars in cancer,except for moon in lagna.Early marriage had happened which lasted just for 1 day.A second marriage was possible after a delay of 6 years,but that happened because of divine blessings from a spiritual guru(Gods grace). Otherwise the marriage/happiness from marriage ,may not manifest before the age of 32.Eventhough married,the individual is not fully happy.Thus i believe saturn may not be a trouble giver for early marriage,when alone in cancer.But when he joins debiltated mars there can be a combined effect.Many astrologers are of the opinion that as per the horoscope, time is yet to come(32 yeras) for the marriage.Thus i beleive as Vistiji has pointed out, Mars causes delay in marriage/happiness(if married).As you have said, Saturn will protect the 7th house by aspect, more so as capricorn is its own sign.Shri K.Karunakaran, 4 times chief minister of kerala,had saturn in cancer in 3rd house.Apart from giving Raja yoga, saturns 7th house aspect on 9th makara),gave him tremendous luck.He rose from nothing - a union leader in a spinning mill to cheif minister,Cabinet minister and working committe member of congress party.I remember once chandrashekhar ji mentioning about debilitated jupiter in lagna better than exalted in the 7th for makara lagna.Reason being the aspect of jupiter on its exaltation sign. ThanksPradeep New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Dear Visti, Namaste. Point well taken. I must think more about the implications of what you told. Let us say that the atman does not desire marriage but the mind does. As the atmakaraka is the king of the chart, how will it go about achieving its objectives? Can the desires of the atman change over time (with respect to your statement about Mars being the forced brahmachari till age 44)? regardsHariVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Hari, Namaskar I must clarify – what your atma wants is not necessarily what you want. It’s only the luckiest who want what their Atma wants, and have their Karakamsa joined with the Navämça Lagna. So when I say that your atma is obstructing marriage, I didn’t mean you were. Keep that very firmly in mind. The Atma is only riding the chariot. The charioteer is the mind! Yours, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Hari, Namaskar The goal of Mars is to become the perfect warrior, and retire at 44 after which Mars is eligable to teach the Vedas. It is at this time that marriage is performed. Now when ones AK becomes mars, then it becomes pertinent to learn when to fight and when not to – hence for such people with Mars AK, they must learn ahimsa. Since Rähu is joined your Mars, you should especially be careful of what you eat. Yours, bold">Visti Larsen color:#4E81C4"> visti (AT) (DOT) org Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Hari M [onlyhari ] 17 August 2004 13:30 Visti Larsen; vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Delay or denial of marriage 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Namaste. Point well taken. I must think more about the implications of what you told. Let us say that the atman does not desire marriage but the mind does. As the atmakaraka is the king of the chart, how will it go about achieving its objectives? Can the desires of the atman change over time (with respect to your statement about Mars being the forced brahmachari till age 44)? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">regards Hari Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Hari, Namaskar I must clarify what your atma wants is not necessarily what you want. Its only the luckiest who want what their Atma wants, and have their Karakamsa joined with the Navdmga Lagna. So when I say that your atma is obstructing marriage, I didnt mean you were. Keep that very firmly in mind. The Atma is only riding the chariot. The charioteer is the mind! Yours, 12.0pt"> Attachment: (image/jpeg) image001.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Dear Hari I dont know the basis of this 32 year.But i have heard many references.May be learned members could help.As you had sent attachment, i couldnt get the chart details.Kindly sent your details.In your case jupiter is 2nd and 5th lord aspecting own house 5th and exaltation place 9th, which is very good.(Explaining your Phd).But mixed results may be felt at times due to maraka ownership.In the other case which i have mentioned(Karunakaran) saturn is a strong yogakaraka (owning 9th and 10th) specting its own house ,the 9th. regards Hari vedic astrology, Hari M <onlyhari> wrote: > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Pradeep, > > For the length of the marriage, we should see afflictions to the 2nd from UL. Your example shows that by itself, Sa will not delay the event of marriage. What is the basis of this 32 years....age of Jupiter is 32 years coincidentally. Your point about Ju being better in 1st house of Cp lagna than 7th house is interesting and it needs to be confirmed by studies. > > regards > Hari > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear Hari > > I have seen another similar chart(Ramesh ji's initial post),with > saturn and mars in cancer,except for moon in lagna.Early marriage had > happened which lasted just for 1 day.A second marriage was possible > after a delay of 6 years,but that happened because of divine > blessings from a spiritual guru(Gods grace). Otherwise the > marriage/happiness from marriage ,may not manifest before the age of > 32.Eventhough married,the individual is not fully happy.Thus i > believe saturn may not be a trouble giver for early marriage,when > alone in cancer.But when he joins debiltated mars there can be a > combined effect. > Many astrologers are of the opinion that as per the horoscope, time > is yet to come(32 yeras) for the marriage.Thus i beleive as Vistiji > has pointed out, Mars causes delay in marriage/happiness(if > married).As you have said, Saturn will protect the 7th house by > aspect, more so as capricorn is its own sign.Shri K.Karunakaran, 4 > times chief minister of kerala,had saturn in cancer in 3rd > house.Apart from giving Raja yoga, saturns 7th house aspect on 9th > makara),gave him tremendous luck.He rose from nothing - a union > leader in a spinning mill to cheif minister,Cabinet minister and > working committe member of congress party.I remember once > chandrashekhar ji mentioning about debilitated jupiter in lagna > better than exalted in the 7th for makara lagna.Reason being the > aspect of jupiter on its exaltation sign. > Thanks > Pradeep > > > > New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Hari, i use the following 4 methods for arriving at the birth time. 1.Ashtottaramsa 2.Kunda 3.Pranapada 4.Vighati There are many karma clocks/dasa schemes available. As a first step find out whether any conditional dasa is applicable in a chart. If two or more dasas are applicable then choose the one which has very close association with AK(AK is the king). The order of preference is kendras/panapharas/apoklimas. Do you find Buda placed in 7th in association with Rajyapada from Lagna in shastyamsa. Buda is the darakaraka. Annoyed by his placements Buda does damages to all acts signified by him. One of the house owned by Buda is Mithuna which falls in 9th from UL. The kama trikonas had a definite role to play in the past birth. As per 3.3.76 of Jaimini Upadesa Sutras if Sun conjoins/aspects the death inflicting sign, a close confidant or family member is the cause of death. We find Sun tormented by Sani the Maraka and Mars the badhaka. This paves way for curse. As per 3.3.87 of Jaimini Upadesa Sutras 11th is the house of emancipation. Here we find the 3rd place from AL is the 11th from lagna. Curses can be dangerous. Here we find the father deeply wounded on account of AK Mars and the act had caused ineffacable sorrow. We have great lessons to learn here. Kama trikonas have caused the downfall. How to repair the damage done? Repair work can be done by way of remedial measures and sincerely seeking the blessings of the Lord who is the father/progenitor. Mars and Sun indicate agni tatwa. Mars also rules accidents. Sani is the lord of rajyapada which indicates factories/office premises. Now that your question is how to co-relate curse of father and death in factory premises. Curses affect the psyche deeply. It leads to loss of memory as the person repeatedly thinks of the past act and the violent outburst of emotions. This results in careless handling of the work on hand which can cause accidents. In other words the lack of knowledge(this can happen when the mind is not calm and is lost in past deeds) of how to act during emergency situation can cause calamity. Mooladhara chakra speaks of the pritvi tatwa which is ruled Buda which is found placed in marana karaka sthana in shastyamsa. Sun has caused the curse and it is he who is making you feel weak. Mother Bhagawati/Parasakthi the all powerful is your Guru. Take refuge in her. She will definitely help you out. May Mother Bless. Best wishes. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. Hari M <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Shri Ramanarayanan, Well, I had posed the query in the context of seeking to understand the principles behind the timing of delayed marriage. But nevertheless, thank you for your analysis and as always it is a pleasure to read your emails. The popular perception about Sani is that it generally delays the fruits of the houses influenced by it and as Visti showed with a few examples, that Sa in lagna need not always delay the event of marriage by virtue of its aspect on the 7th house. Of course, all the examples that he quoted were Sa in Cancer lagna and since Sa happens to be the 7th lord for these examples, we may take it as confirmation of the principle that if a lord happens to aspect its own house, then it is good for that house. Now for the case analysed by Prabodh, Visti said that it is the Kuja dosha that would cause delay in marriage for the said case. As far as my understanding goes, Kuja dosha is used more in assessing the compatibility of the couple and by itself, would not be enough to delay the event of marriage. But Visti implied that this was the case and hence I posed the query to find out whether the same logic used by him applied in my case also. I await Visti's reply in this regard. Coming to your analysis, it is interesting to see that you have not taken the recorded birth time and rectified it by about 5 mins. Have you used pranapada technique to rectify the birth time? Or is this after consideration of shastyamsa? Because the AK is conjoined Ra, the governer of Shodasottari dasa, would you give more preference to this dasa scheme than the normal Vimsottari Dasa? I seek your advise on this. You have made some interesting points in the analysis. You wrote "Buda the 9th lord with reference to UL is placed in marana karaka sthana..." I assume you are referring to UL in shastyamsa chart, is it not? In D-60, Me is placed in 5th from UL (Libra) which is not maranakarakasthana (Me in 7th). Maybe this is a typo. As for death being due to the pitri shaapa (because it occurs in the 3rd from AL), it is my understanding that curses do not cause death but suffering in the past life. This curse occurring in the 9th from UL, it is possible that I may not have had any children in the immediate past life but the death itself may have occurred due to some terrible fire accidents (Sun (heat), Mars (Rudra) & Sa (vayu tatva) in a vayu tatva rasi). I seek your opinion on this. Of course it is all speculation but since you have made these points, I would like to enhance my understanding. As a side note, I was involved in a chemical plant blast during my research stint in France but escaped with few injuries including a slight altering of the coccyx bone which sits in the mooladhara chakra area. The conjunction of the graha arudhas of the D-60 lagna & 7th lord in UL may show that I was married in the immediate past life. Is this thinking correct? If so, would this show a means to differentiate whether one was married or not in the past life? Quite interesting. Regarding the navamsa analysis, Sanjayji is not convinced about the validity of my navamsa lagna. He believes that it should be Sg navamsa lagna and I am doubtful because the margin of birthtime correction for this navamsa lagna is more than 10 minutes while my mother insists that the recorded birthtime is correct. This is for your information. However the points that you make about Me being under affliction from Ma and Sa are correct. Worth noting that both Ma and Sa are debilitated in navamsa. Regarding the remedial measures suggested by you, Shri Ramadas Rao has already analysed my case about a year back and gave some remedies which are roughly in line with what you suggested. He gave me a Durga mantra for spouse which I duly completed early this year. I am aware that Moon is badhakesh (rasi chart) and that most of the planets in my chart are in the nakshatras owned by Moon. So I do the 32 names of Durga chanting every Monday. I also do two Jyotirlinga mantra prayer plus istadevata (Lakshmi & Srinivasa) prayer and rudram chamakkam daily. I have been toying with the idea of fasting on Sunday (UL) but as usual the flesh is weak. Besides I have problems with my career which I must resolve first and it does not help me that UL is also the 10th house in rasi! You said that the spouse is "at a place within my reach"...is this because of 7th from Ve being a dual sign? Do you not consider also where the lord of 7th from Ve is placed (Ma in a movable sign)? I have some more questions but will stop here and wait for your reply. regards Harirama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: SARVAM GYANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Hari, i understand that the question has been addressed to Visti. i also understand that the question has been posed in this forum. i therefore hope you will not mind me writing this. i had taken the birth time as 11hours 6minutes and 5 secs. Vrischika lagna is rising with Guru in it. You were born on Suklapaksha Navami in Surya Hora. This gives the clue to the applicable dasa. Shodasottari dasa is applicable(Rahu the governor is associated with AK Mars). Sun is the lord of Upapada and is placed in 2nd from it. Buda is the other dasa governor whose dasa is also applicable but has been sidelined by Rahu on account of his close proximity with AK Mars. As per the shodasottari dasa you are currently running the dasa of Buda and antardasa of Sun. The argala caused by Vakra Sani is obstructed by Guru in lagna. With reference to UL this Sani is placed in 10th and has been obstructing the intervention of Guru. Let us see what this vakra sani has been contemplating over these years. Let us look at your D-60. This sani has joined hands with AK mars and has caused sorrow to the lagna lord and natural pitrikaraka Sun. We see a pitri saapa in the past birth. The lagna in the past birth is incidentally your UL in the current birth. Buda the 9th lord with reference to UL is placed in marana karaka sthana. Death came on account of the pitri saapa in the previous birth. Marriage is the most likely cause of this saapa as we find the UL and A7 together in Libra, where the graha arudas of the 7th lord and lagna lord conjoin. Let us see your Navamsa where Makara lagna rises with buda the dara karaka in it. This Buda is subject to the machinations of Mars from 7th and Sani from 4th houses respectively. We also find the kalatra karaka venus being put to hardships by Rahu and Sani. The period when Guru transits the 2nd from UL can be of great help in bringing the spouse who is residing in a place within your reach. Perform the remedial measures for clearance from pitri saapa. Observe fast on Sundays and donate food packets/food grains to the nearby temple. Help funding the marriage of a poor girl. Chant "NAMASIVAAYAI CHA NAMASIVAAYA" 324 times a day. Worship MATA BHAGAVATI fervently. Best wishes. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan.Hari M <onlyhari > wrote: ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Visti, Namaste. What about Saturn in 7th? I remember that Guruji also told that Sa in 7th doesnt usually delay the marriage. Could you please examine my chart (attached) and give your opinion as to what is the delaying factor for marriage? regards HariVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Prabodh, Namaskar In the charts of Shailesh Chada and his wife, both have Saturn in Lagna and there was no marriage delay. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush Jr, Al Gore, Indira Gandhi, Sonya Gandhi, all have Cancer Lagna with Saturn in it and their marriage was not delayed. Where did you get this dictum from? Instead Saturn in Lagna for Cancer can give a major Räjya Yoga and success in politics. It is actually Mars which causes delay in marriage, through Kuja Dosha, and will not give successful relations until after the 28th year. In my opinion she will marry at 31. However it will not be a conventional/traditional marriage (Sädhu Yoga in the Upapada). Lastly and more importantly - who wants to know? Asking about another persons chart with regards to relationships and marriage can be used for the wrong purposes. Yours, Visti Larsenvisti (AT) (DOT) org amolmandar [amolmandar ] 16 August 2004 06:58To: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Delay or denial of marriage Dear Ramesh NamasteSaturn in lagna usually delays the marriage and she is already 28+. Moreover, Sa is transiting in lagna in near future and that way will aspect its own 7th house. At the same time Ju will be in trine to 7th house So there is chance of her marriage. Another point is that the 5th lord is debiliated and vargittam,weak in deg., and lord of UL as well. The sthira putrakarak is 6th to 5th house. So trouble causing grahas are Mars and Jupiter. Askl her to wear Moonga in gold in Anamika on any Tuesday. Ask her to perform Shivalinga pooja daily with water and Dahi. Fast on Tuesday will give best results. This should help her.Thanks alot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh Vekhande--- In vedic astrology, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002> wrote:> Jai Jagannath Jee Ki,> Pranam to all my fellow members, I am knew to this group Can you please clarify my querry. I shall be thankfull to all of you.The querry is:> A girl born on 06/05/76 at 10:34 AM at tejpur(Assam) is still unmarried and there is no chance in 2004.> I checked up her chart and found that kalatrakarak venus is afflicted in 10 th House.Jupiter the karaka for husband in female chart is combust and posited in Aries whose lord Mars is debilitated in lagna and conjoined with 7th lord Saturn a malefic.> The only positive sign of marriage is that the LL Moon and 7L saturn is together in lagna afflicted by debilitated Mars.> When we checked up the D9 lagna is scorpio whose lord Mars condition is weak Venus here also afflicted by Mars .Moon is afflicted by Rahu and Ketu Jup. is alongwith a malefic saturn.> The positive sign is here also that LL and 7L are together in 9th house.> Now the query is that will her be marriage settled ,if so when, or is there denial of marriage due to afflicted and combust Jup and afflicted Venus.> Her present MD/AD is KETU/VENUS up to 29-10-2004 and then AD of SUN starts.> Kindly help me.> Jai sri Krishna > From Ramesh Mishraaarceemastro2002> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Dear Visti Namaste Many a times I heard from my guruji that whenever Sa aspects lagna or 7th then there is always a chance of delay im marriage. Moreover I find logical to consider it in that way, as Saturn teaches self- control prudence,patience,chastity,thrift and the meditative mind along with to distinguish between real worth and superficial pertentiousness. It has a power to limit and restrict. It is the bridge between then emotions and the mind and governs them until selfcontrol is secured. So when such Saturn is in the lagna it will introduce all these qualities in the person. Moreover, if we read the basic texts we see that almost every one including Parashara has said that Sa is pale in color and slow in motion. It gives best results in later part of ones life. It is a Vridha graha. Prarashara has even said(according to Katwe Guruji's book) that, the tree that does not yield and is of no use, comes under the influence of Sahni. So keeping all this in mind I thought that it is logical to consider that Shani may cause delay in marriage if placed in Lagna. But it is difficult to consider that Mars will delay. (That to debiliated vargottam) Mars I suppose creates waste because of haste. Again it is my logical understanding and correct me if I am wrong. As far as the examples charts provided as I have not seen most the charts I can not say and there might be some rider to this as well. I am not sure. Another point is that there are shlokas in Parashara that say that the person may marry as early as 5 or 9 years of age. Now by any chance is it possible now in India? So one has to apply the viveka. The charts you mentioned must be analyzed vis-a-vis Sthala-Kala- Sthithi(SKS) as well. As far as Indira Gandhi is concerned i suppose according to SKS of India at that time her marriage can be considered as late. In some communities in India getting married at the age of 35-40 is not considered as late where as in some other it is too late. So I suppose we must see the SKS as well. Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Om Gurave Namah Namaste Prabodhji, I too have Saturn in lagna (Dhanus) and my husband has Saturn in 7th (Dhanus)and we got married when we were both 25-26. That might be late for a woman according to Indian Standards, but is it late for a guy? Regards, Lakshmi amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote: Dear Visti NamasteMany a times I heard from my guruji that whenever Sa aspects lagna or 7th then there is always a chance of delay im marriage. Moreover I find logical to consider it in that way, as Saturn teaches self-controlprudence,patience,chastity,thrift and the meditative mind along with to distinguish between real worth and superficial pertentiousness. It has a power to limit and restrict. It is the bridge between then emotions and the mind and governs them until selfcontrol is secured. So when such Saturn is in the lagna it will introduce all these qualities in the person. Moreover, if we read the basic texts we see that almost every one including Parashara has said that Sa is pale in color and slow in motion. It gives best results in later part of ones life. It is a Vridha graha. Prarashara has even said(according to Katwe Guruji's book) that, the tree that does not yield and is of no use, comes under the influence of Sahni. So keeping all this in mind I thought that it is logical to consider that Shani may cause delay in marriage if placed in Lagna. But it is difficult to consider that Mars will delay. (That to debiliated vargottam) Mars I suppose creates waste because of haste. Again it is my logical understanding and correct me if I am wrong. As far as the examples charts provided as I have not seen most the charts I can not say and there might be some rider to this as well. I am not sure. Another point is that there are shlokas in Parashara that say that the person may marry as early as 5 or 9 years of age. Now by any chance is it possible now in India? So one has to apply the viveka. The charts you mentioned must be analyzed vis-a-vis Sthala-Kala-Sthithi(SKS) as well. As far as Indira Gandhi is concerned i suppose according to SKS of India at that time her marriage can be considered as late. In some communities in India getting married at the age of 35-40 is not considered as late where as in some other it is too late. So I suppose we must see the SKS as well.Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh VekhandeArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Dear Shri Ramanarayanan, Thank you for explaining your stand. Yes, I forgot that we must always judge maranakarakasthana with reference to lagna. I am aware of the conditional dasas and Guruji told me that one must not forget the normal Vimsottari dasa and use it in conjunction with the other conditional dasas that may be applicable in a chart. Guruji also told me that these conditional dasas have been arranged in a particular order and should two or more be applicable in the chart, then choose according to the hierarchy. Your opinion provides an interesting perspective, however. I am not sure if by one accident in the present life, one can relate it to the shastyamsa. My understanding is that it is the sign which indicates the place of death and not the planet which can show the means of death. However it is all speculation and since you brought in JMUS here, I will leave it at this point. Plus I dont have any phobias or recurring dreams (except maybe an occasional dream that I get trapped in underground spaces or claustrophobia) to verify the points you have made. But I do want to say that I dont get angry so often or have past memories remembrance or whatever resulting in mistakes. On the contrary, during the industrial explosion, my mind was very calm and I did not feel any fear or emotional vicissitudes (lagna lord in 3rd house of rasi exalted). What is your definition of Mother Bhagavathi? Does it relate to Durga or Kamakshi etc? Thanks for your kind advice and as I told, I am already doing something in this regard. regards Harirama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Hari, i use the following 4 methods for arriving at the birth time. 1.Ashtottaramsa 2.Kunda 3.Pranapada 4.Vighati There are many karma clocks/dasa schemes available. As a first step find out whether any conditional dasa is applicable in a chart. If two or more dasas are applicable then choose the one which has very close association with AK(AK is the king). The order of preference is kendras/panapharas/apoklimas. Do you find Buda placed in 7th in association with Rajyapada from Lagna in shastyamsa. Buda is the darakaraka. Annoyed by his placements Buda does damages to all acts signified by him. One of the house owned by Buda is Mithuna which falls in 9th from UL. The kama trikonas had a definite role to play in the past birth. As per 3.3.76 of Jaimini Upadesa Sutras if Sun conjoins/aspects the death inflicting sign, a close confidant or family member is the cause of death. We find Sun tormented by Sani the Maraka and Mars the badhaka. This paves way for curse. As per 3.3.87 of Jaimini Upadesa Sutras 11th is the house of emancipation. Here we find the 3rd place from AL is the 11th from lagna. Curses can be dangerous. Here we find the father deeply wounded on account of AK Mars and the act had caused ineffacable sorrow. We have great lessons to learn here. Kama trikonas have caused the downfall. How to repair the damage done? Repair work can be done by way of remedial measures and sincerely seeking the blessings of the Lord who is the father/progenitor. Mars and Sun indicate agni tatwa. Mars also rules accidents. Sani is the lord of rajyapada which indicates factories/office premises. Now that your question is how to co-relate curse of father and death in factory premises. Curses affect the psyche deeply. It leads to loss of memory as the person repeatedly thinks of the past act and the violent outburst of emotions. This results in careless handling of the work on hand which can cause accidents. In other words the lack of knowledge(this can happen when the mind is not calm and is lost in past deeds) of how to act during emergency situation can cause calamity. Mooladhara chakra speaks of the pritvi tatwa which is ruled Buda which is found placed in marana karaka sthana in shastyamsa. Sun has caused the curse and it is he who is making you feel weak. Mother Bhagawati/Parasakthi the all powerful is your Guru. Take refuge in her. She will definitely help you out. May Mother Bless. Best wishes. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan.Do You ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Laxmi ji Namaste See it is not that Saturn aspecting lagna/7th will always cause delay in the marriage. As i said earlier every case must be seen differently. But if we know that the marriage is delayed and we see the Saturn in lagna then we can not simply overlook it! In the chart under consideration we see the Sa/Ma/Mo in Lagna which is a bad combination for marriage for a girl. But main problem causing graha must be taken as Saturn because it has the natural inclination of causing delays. As far as your husband chart we may require to go through it and find out the reason for marriage at 26 if in his family marriage at 26 is not cosidered as late. Thanks alot for your Time and Space. Prabodh Vekhande vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Prabodhji, > > I too have Saturn in lagna (Dhanus) and my husband has Saturn in 7th (Dhanus)and we got married when we were both 25-26. That might be late for a woman according to Indian Standards, but is it late for a guy? > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > > amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote: Dear Visti Namaste > > Many a times I heard from my guruji that whenever Sa aspects lagna > or 7th then there is always a chance of delay im marriage. Moreover > I find logical to consider it in that way, as Saturn teaches self- > control > prudence,patience,chastity,thrift and the meditative mind along with > to distinguish between real worth and superficial pertentiousness. > It has a power to limit and restrict. It is the bridge between then > emotions and the mind and governs them until selfcontrol is secured. > So when such Saturn is in the lagna it will introduce all these > qualities in the person. > > Moreover, if we read the basic texts we see that almost every one > including Parashara has said that Sa is pale in color and slow in > motion. It gives best results in later part of ones life. It is a > Vridha graha. Prarashara has even said(according to Katwe Guruji's > book) that, the tree that does not yield and is of no use, comes > under the influence of Sahni. > > So keeping all this in mind I thought that it is logical to consider > that Shani may cause delay in marriage if placed in Lagna. > > > But it is difficult to consider that Mars will delay. (That to > debiliated vargottam) Mars I suppose creates waste because of haste. > Again it is my logical understanding and correct me if I am wrong. > > As far as the examples charts provided as I have not seen most the > charts I can not say and there might be some rider to this as well. > I am not sure. > > Another point is that there are shlokas in Parashara that say that > the person may marry as early as 5 or 9 years of age. Now by any > chance is it possible now in India? So one has to apply the viveka. > The charts you mentioned must be analyzed vis-a-vis Sthala-Kala- > Sthithi(SKS) as well. As far as Indira Gandhi is concerned i suppose > according to SKS of India at that time her marriage can be > considered as late. In some communities in India getting married at > the age of 35-40 is not considered as late where as in some other it > is too late. So I suppose we must see the SKS as well. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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