Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Dear respected members. Here is an example chart for evalauating health related matters. 20-11-1977 time ,21.30 15,11 N 77,25 E 5.30 E ZONE. Did this individual have major events related to health.If yes - of what kind.When was it?The reason. It will be of great help and a learning experience if members can analyse and explain. Thanks Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Pradeep, Here is my attempt to solve the quiz that you sent. I noted down the hora (Me) & kala (Ve) in which I saw your email and it appears at first glance to be a problem related to Me. I then cast the chart according to the data you gave and am getting Ge lagna (27°53’) with retrograde Ju in lagna. Looking at Me, I found that it is the lagna & 4th lord placed in the 6th house along with the 3rd lord, Sun who is the dispositor of the 8th lord Sa, placed in Kendra to it (paraspara karaka). Me is also the AK placed in the 8th house of navamsa suggesting some chronic troubles and is conjoined debilitated retrograde Ju. Looking at all these factors, it is possible that there could be some health problems. What kind of health problems? According to kalapurusha (8th lord in 3rd house), Leo rasi rules stomach and I would guess some digestive problems related to the stomach (probably some chronic ulcers etc). I am not sure about the timing and would wait for your feedback to find out whether I am on the right or wrong track. I hazard a guess that it would happen during Me-Su (around 1996/97). What about Ve? It is placed in 5th house (stomach again?) aspected by three malefics (Ma, Sa & Ra – graha dristi) indicating curse of spouse. Saving grace is aspect of Jupiter alone in lagna. Parasara teaches that Ju alone in lagna is the greatest blessings and just like a single bow to Lord Shiva destroys all the sins, Ju protects the native likewise. He is running a not-so-terrific Rahu Moola dasa till 2009 incidentally. Any on-going problems related to 8th and 9th house matters? Finally 6th lord Ma is placed in 2nd with 2nd lord in 10th afflicted by nodes. Any problems with his eyesight (karaka for eyes in 6th) or face in general? Regards Harivijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: Dear respected members.Here is an example chart for evalauating health related matters.20-11-1977time ,21.3015,11 N77,25 E5.30 E ZONE.Did this individual have major events related to health.If yes - of what kind.When was it?The reason.It will be of great help and a learning experience if members can analyse and explain.ThanksPradeepArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Dear Hari ji Thanks a lot for your reply. As i know the problem, my analysis might always try to find some problem in the chart. As you have rightly pointed out there were some chronic health problems.Yes he had some eye problems as well.But got it cured through surgery.But the main area of my quiz was not stomach,somewhere else.There were problems(?) in 96/97.But major had happened at another time. I have found Lagna has 7th and 10th lord jupiter.7th is a maraka.Blemish of kendradipathya ? as it lords the maraka and the strongest kendra.As jupiter is not in its own house kendradhipatya may have an influence? But I agree with you that jupiter in lagna is a strong blessing as is the case with this individual.Only problem is regarding the strength. 1)debilitated in navamsha 2)dispositor in 6th 3)in ardra nakshathra ruled by rahu and rahu in turn is in 4th house and 4th lord is in 6th and hence subjected to some problems. Regarding ongoing problems 8th and 9th lord - his marriage fixed, did not take place.He was able to come abroad(computers) for a short period. I have observed that saturn behaved as 8th lord during its first half while transiting gemini.As he is 4th from natal moon(kantaka) and igniting natal jupiter (7th lord).Thus as 8th lord he brought loss/refusal regarding marriage.As 9th lord he brought the individual abroad giving a boost to his career.Kindly write if this was the logic you had in mind while asking the question(8th 9th ongoing problems). May be the above info will help you in looking at the chart again. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, Hari M <onlyhari> wrote: > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > Here is my attempt to solve the quiz that you sent. I noted down the hora (Me) & kala (Ve) in which I saw your email and it appears at first glance to be a problem related to Me. > > > > I then cast the chart according to the data you gave and am getting Ge lagna (27°53') with retrograde Ju in lagna. Looking at Me, I found that it is the lagna & 4th lord placed in the 6th house along with the 3rd lord, Sun who is the dispositor of the 8th lord Sa, placed in Kendra to it (paraspara karaka). Me is also the AK placed in the 8th house of navamsa suggesting some chronic troubles and is conjoined debilitated retrograde Ju. Looking at all these factors, it is possible that there could be some health problems. > > > > What kind of health problems? According to kalapurusha (8th lord in 3rd house), Leo rasi rules stomach and I would guess some digestive problems related to the stomach (probably some chronic ulcers etc). I am not sure about the timing and would wait for your feedback to find out whether I am on the right or wrong track. I hazard a guess that it would happen during Me-Su (around 1996/97). > > > > What about Ve? It is placed in 5th house (stomach again?) aspected by three malefics (Ma, Sa & Ra – graha dristi) indicating curse of spouse. Saving grace is aspect of Jupiter alone in lagna. Parasara teaches that Ju alone in lagna is the greatest blessings and just like a single bow to Lord Shiva destroys all the sins, Ju protects the native likewise. He is running a not-so-terrific Rahu Moola dasa till 2009 incidentally. Any on-going problems related to 8th and 9th house matters? > > > > Finally 6th lord Ma is placed in 2nd with 2nd lord in 10th afflicted by nodes. Any problems with his eyesight (karaka for eyes in 6th) or face in general? > > > > Regards > > Hari > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:Dear respected members. > > Here is an example chart for evalauating health related matters. > > 20-11-1977 > time ,21.30 > 15,11 N > 77,25 E > 5.30 E ZONE. > > Did this individual have major events related to health.If yes - of > what kind.When was it?The reason. > > It will be of great help and a learning experience if members can > analyse and explain. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Dear Pradeep, First of all, I request you to drop the ji part and call me simply Hari. Thank you for your feedback and I have seen Vinay's attempt also. After I sent my mail to you, I was musing on what happens if Ju is a functional malefic for that lagna or badhakesh...will Parasara's statement still hold true? I think he had made this statement when discussing the evils at birth so I think this results in nullifying any balaarishtas that may be there at birth or in protecting the native from grievous injuries due to accidents etc. Now coming back to the case, you have confirmed that there are chronic health troubles faced by the native. Also that he faced some eyeproblems as well. My calculation of the kala was wrong but I hope my statement that Me indicates the problem turns out to be right... My logic that if there was chronic health problems, then it should have manifested from birth and after ascertaining the connection between lagna & 8th lord, I used the kalapurusha to find out the area of the human body where the problem lay. Note that he ran Sa MD from birth as well. Now that you say I am not correct, I am a little bemused to find out the mistake in my logic. Ruling out the kalapurusha, then we have to examine the 6th house and 6th lord (Vinay: Sc comes into the picture only if it is clear involvement of 8th lord?). I have already dealt with the 6th lord to pinpoint the eyetroubles. 6th house indicates hip region and conjunction of lagna lord with 3rd lord (short duration travels) Sun (karaka for bones?) could indicate fracture of hips or some such problems in the hips. I agree with Vinay that this could have happened during Me-Ma (1998-99). Vinays point about the 6th co-lord Ketu being stronger is very right but the other co-lord is debilitated in Cancer and has more potential to cause trouble than Ketu who is in his moolatrikona. It appears from your feedback that my reading of the curse was wrong; I should have checked for involvement of 7th house/7th lord also. But then I dont know how to explain why the marriage got cancelled. By problems with 8th and 9th house matters (lorded by Sa), I was asking if any problems are there such as father, fortune, debts etc. I hope other gurus will comment on the logic used by me in the first mail. One more question: was the father of the native very unhappy at the time of birth of the native? Looking forward to your feedback on Vinay & my attempts. regards Hari vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: Dear Hari jiThanks a lot for your reply.As i know the problem, my analysis might always try to find some problem in the chart.As you have rightly pointed out there were some chronic health problems.Yes he had some eye problems as well.But got it cured through surgery.But the main area of my quiz was not stomach,somewhere else.There were problems(?) in 96/97.But major had happened at another time.I have found Lagna has 7th and 10th lord jupiter.7th is a maraka.Blemish of kendradipathya ? as it lords the maraka and the strongest kendra.As jupiter is not in its own house kendradhipatya may have an influence?But I agree with you that jupiter in lagna is a strong blessing as is the case with this individual.Only problem is regarding the strength.1)debilitated in navamsha 2)dispositor in 6th 3)in ardra nakshathra ruled by rahu and rahu in turn is in 4th house and 4th lord is in 6th andhence subjected to some problems.Regarding ongoing problems 8th and 9th lord - his marriage fixed, did not take place.He was able to come abroad(computers) for a short period.I have observed that saturn behaved as 8th lord during its first half while transiting gemini.As he is 4th from natal moon(kantaka) and igniting natal jupiter (7th lord).Thus as 8th lord he brought loss/refusal regarding marriage.As 9th lord he brought the individual abroad giving a boost to his career.Kindly write if this was the logic you had in mind while asking the question(8th 9th ongoing problems).May be the above info will help you in looking at the chart again.ThanksPradeepvedic astrology, Hari M <onlyhari> wrote:> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > > > Dear Pradeep,> > > > Here is my attempt to solve the quiz that you sent. I noted down the hora (Me) & kala (Ve) in which I saw your email and it appears at first glance to be a problem related to Me. > > > > I then cast the chart according to the data you gave and am getting Ge lagna (27°53') with retrograde Ju in lagna. Looking at Me, I found that it is the lagna & 4th lord placed in the 6th house along with the 3rd lord, Sun who is the dispositor of the 8th lord Sa, placed in Kendra to it (paraspara karaka). Me is also the AK placed in the 8th house of navamsa suggesting some chronic troubles and is conjoined debilitated retrograde Ju. Looking at all these factors, it is possible that there could be some health problems. > > > > What kind of health problems? According to kalapurusha (8th lord in 3rd house), Leo rasi rules stomach and I would guess some digestive problems related to the stomach (probably some chronic ulcers etc). I am not sure about the timing and would wait for your feedback to find out whether I am on the right or wrong track. I hazard a guess that it would happen during Me-Su (around 1996/97).> > > > What about Ve? It is placed in 5th house (stomach again?) aspected by three malefics (Ma, Sa & Ra – graha dristi) indicating curse of spouse. Saving grace is aspect of Jupiter alone in lagna. Parasara teaches that Ju alone in lagna is the greatest blessings and just like a single bow to Lord Shiva destroys all the sins, Ju protects the native likewise. He is running a not-so-terrific Rahu Moola dasa till 2009 incidentally. Any on-going problems related to 8th and 9th house matters?> > > > Finally 6th lord Ma is placed in 2nd with 2nd lord in 10th afflicted by nodes. Any problems with his eyesight (karaka for eyes in 6th) or face in general?> > > > Regards> > Hari> > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:Dear respected members.> > Here is an example chart for evalauating health related matters.> > 20-11-1977> time ,21.30> 15,11 N> 77,25 E> 5.30 E ZONE.> > Did this individual have major events related to health.If yes - of > what kind.When was it?The reason.> > It will be of great help and a learning experience if members can > analyse and explain.> > Thanks> Pradeep> > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Dear Hari and Pradeep, Sorry for butiing in. One point I want to make is about the marriage. With seventh lord jUpiter in both birth chart as well as Nmas, and Jup in best place in the first house, there is nothing to disturb his marriage except the retrograde Jupiter in both charts. This gives us some clue about the behavior of retro planets which is often mysterious. Pran Razdan --- Hari M <onlyhari wrote: > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Pradeep, > > First of all, I request you to drop the ji part and call me simply > Hari. Thank you for your feedback and I have seen Vinay's attempt > also. > > After I sent my mail to you, I was musing on what happens if Ju is a > functional malefic for that lagna or badhakesh...will Parasara's > statement still hold true? I think he had made this statement when > discussing the evils at birth so I think this results in nullifying > any balaarishtas that may be there at birth or in protecting the > native from grievous injuries due to accidents etc. > > Now coming back to the case, you have confirmed that there are > chronic health troubles faced by the native. Also that he faced some > eyeproblems as well. My calculation of the kala was wrong but I hope > my statement that Me indicates the problem turns out to be right... > > My logic that if there was chronic health problems, then it should > have manifested from birth and after ascertaining the connection > between lagna & 8th lord, I used the kalapurusha to find out the area > of the human body where the problem lay. Note that he ran Sa MD from > birth as well. Now that you say I am not correct, I am a little > bemused to find out the mistake in my logic. Ruling out the > kalapurusha, then we have to examine the 6th house and 6th lord > (Vinay: Sc comes into the picture only if it is clear involvement of > 8th lord?). I have already dealt with the 6th lord to pinpoint the > eyetroubles. 6th house indicates hip region and conjunction of lagna > lord with 3rd lord (short duration travels) Sun (karaka for bones?) > could indicate fracture of hips or some such problems in the hips. I > agree with Vinay that this could have happened during Me-Ma > (1998-99). Vinays point about the 6th co-lord Ketu being stronger is > very right but the other co-lord is debilitated in Cancer and has > more potential to cause trouble than Ketu who is in his > moolatrikona. > > It appears from your feedback that my reading of the curse was wrong; > I should have checked for involvement of 7th house/7th lord also. But > then I dont know how to explain why the marriage got cancelled. By > problems with 8th and 9th house matters (lorded by Sa), I was asking > if any problems are there such as father, fortune, debts etc. I hope > other gurus will comment on the logic used by me in the first mail. > > One more question: was the father of the native very unhappy at the > time of birth of the native? > > Looking forward to your feedback on Vinay & my attempts. > > regards > Hari > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > Dear Hari ji > > Thanks a lot for your reply. > As i know the problem, my analysis might always try to find some > problem in the chart. > > As you have rightly pointed out there were some chronic health > problems.Yes he had some eye problems as well.But got it cured > through surgery.But the main area of my quiz was not > stomach,somewhere else.There were problems(?) in 96/97.But major had > happened at another time. > > I have found Lagna has 7th and 10th lord jupiter.7th is a > maraka.Blemish of kendradipathya ? as it lords the maraka and the > strongest kendra.As jupiter is not in its own house kendradhipatya > may have an influence? > > But I agree with you that jupiter in lagna is a strong blessing as is > > the case with this individual.Only problem is regarding the strength. > 1)debilitated in navamsha 2)dispositor in 6th 3)in ardra nakshathra > ruled by rahu and rahu in turn is in 4th house and 4th lord is in 6th > > and > hence subjected to some problems. > Regarding ongoing problems 8th and 9th lord - his marriage fixed, did > > not take place.He was able to come abroad(computers) for a short > period. > I have observed that saturn behaved as 8th lord during its first half > > while transiting gemini.As he is 4th from natal moon(kantaka) and > igniting natal jupiter (7th lord).Thus as 8th lord he brought > loss/refusal regarding marriage.As 9th lord he brought the individual > > abroad giving a boost to his career.Kindly write if this was the > logic you had in mind while asking the question(8th 9th ongoing > problems). > > May be the above info will help you in looking at the chart again. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > vedic astrology, Hari M <onlyhari> wrote: > > > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > Here is my attempt to solve the quiz that you sent. I noted down > the hora (Me) & kala (Ve) in which I saw your email and it appears at > > first glance to be a problem related to Me. > > > > > > > > I then cast the chart according to the data you gave and am getting > > Ge lagna (27°53') with retrograde Ju in lagna. Looking at Me, I > found that it is the lagna & 4th lord placed in the 6th house along > with the 3rd lord, Sun who is the dispositor of the 8th lord Sa, > placed in Kendra to it (paraspara karaka). Me is also the AK placed > in the 8th house of navamsa suggesting some chronic troubles and is > conjoined debilitated retrograde Ju. Looking at all these factors, it > > is possible that there could be some health problems. > > > > > > > > What kind of health problems? According to kalapurusha (8th lord in > > 3rd house), Leo rasi rules stomach and I would guess some digestive > problems related to the stomach (probably some chronic ulcers etc). I > > am not sure about the timing and would wait for your feedback to find > > out whether I am on the right or wrong track. I hazard a guess that > it would happen during Me-Su (around 1996/97). > > > > > > > > What about Ve? It is placed in 5th house (stomach again?) aspected > by three malefics (Ma, Sa & Ra – graha dristi) indicating curse of > spouse. Saving grace is aspect of Jupiter alone in lagna. Parasara > teaches that Ju alone in lagna is the greatest blessings and just > like a single bow to Lord Shiva destroys all the sins, Ju protects > the native likewise. He is running a not-so-terrific Rahu Moola dasa > till 2009 incidentally. Any on-going problems related to 8th and 9th > house matters? > > > > > > > > Finally 6th lord Ma is placed in 2nd with 2nd lord in 10th > afflicted by nodes. Any problems with his eyesight (karaka for eyes > in 6th) or face in general? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Hari > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:Dear respected > members. > > > > Here is an example chart for evalauating health related matters. > > > > 20-11-1977 > > time ,21.30 > > 15,11 N > > 77,25 E > > 5.30 E ZONE. > > > > Did this individual have major events related to health.If yes - of > > > what kind.When was it?The reason. > > > > It will be of great help and a learning experience if members can > > analyse and explain. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > === message truncated === Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile./maildemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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