Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 Dear learned members, Further about parivarthana yoga, I'm posting the birth details of a native who's lords of the 1st house and 7th house exchanged places i.e, lord of first house, Shani is in the 7th in Kataka and the lord of 7th house, Moon is in the Lagna, in Makara. My predictions for this native's marriage was that he'll have an undue delay in marriage due to this parivarthana yoga. Now, his problem is that he's not able to marry the girl he's in love with, due to problems from the girl's house. Can somebody analyse his chart and give predicitons about his time of marriage, will he be able to marry the girl he's in love with and how will his marital life be. As of now, I don't have the birth details of the girl. Date of Birth : 19th May, 1976. Time : 00:15, 12:15 AM Place of birth : Kanyakumari (8 n 10,77 e 26) The native is currently is a software professional and he's on a deputation in US. vedic astrology, "Rajat Bhatia" <bentleyclothing> wrote: > > Hare Rama Kishna > > Dear Sarajit, > > Hi...longtime no talk.I much appreciate your Varahamihira pages. > > Could you elaborate on basic principles in judging Parivartan of > planets.As far as I understand, when two planets sit in each other's > signs, they have a sort of pact between them, that "you look after my > house and I look after your house".They are in a way placed as if in > their own houses. Thus, this leads to good results.Ofcourse, we do > have to keep in mind that the exchange is not between a good house and > an evil house as this creats Dur Yoga. > > Main queries are : > > 1. If the exchange of signs happen between natural enemies, how will > we judge? > > 2.What will happen when one of the participating planet is > debilitated, for example take Taurus Lagna, Saturn goes to 11th house > in Pisces and Jupiter debilitates in 9th house.Will this help Jupiter > in overcoming debilitation and give better results due to exchange? > > Best regards, > > Rajat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear Rajat, Yep... long time we have been out of touch. Thanks for the varahamihira pages... I update it regularly... so keep visting. About the Parivartana... You know there are various yogas or associations... among all such associations, the parivartana is the strongest ones. With each associations, there is exchange of qualities and since the parivartana is the strongest of all associations, the exchange of qualities are substantial. Such planets behave as if they are placed in own houses and give the results of planets they are exhanged with. About the natural qualities of the planet..,. As you know there are natural yogas which form by the virtue of their natural qualities such as Sun- Jupiter, Mars- Jupiter, Moon- Jupiter are all good yogas and Saturn- Mars, Rahu- Sun etc. are inauspicious yogas. These yogas not only happen due to conjunction, but shall happen due to exhange and mutual aspects also... The results of such associations would be felt in exchange too.. and the benefic shall give malefic results and vice- versa. About the results of exchange based on the functional nature... just interpret it as if they are conjoined and there is transfer of functional role among the planets... If there is an exchange between Piscies/ Sagittarius and Capricorn lords... such cases... Jupiter will have neechabhanga because of exchange and the significations of Jupiter shall flourish after initial setback.. Hope this clears your doubt. Best Wishes SarajitRajat Bhatia <bentleyclothing > wrote: Hare Rama KishnaDear Sarajit,Hi...longtime no talk.I much appreciate your Varahamihira pages.Could you elaborate on basic principles in judging Parivartan ofplanets.As far as I understand, when two planets sit in each other'ssigns, they have a sort of pact between them, that "you look after myhouse and I look after your house".They are in a way placed as if intheir own houses. Thus, this leads to good results.Ofcourse, we dohave to keep in mind that the exchange is not between a good house andan evil house as this creats Dur Yoga. Main queries are :1. If the exchange of signs happen between natural enemies, how willwe judge?2.What will happen when one of the participating planet isdebilitated, for example take Taurus Lagna, Saturn goes to 11th housein Pisces and Jupiter debilitates in 9th house.Will this help Jupiterin overcoming debilitation and give better results due to exchange?Best regards,RajatArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sarajitji, This is an interesting dimension. I have a related query. Does the exchange also affect the chara karka characteristics? e.g. what if there is an exchange between AK and AmK? How would they behave during Vimsottari and Narayana Dasas? Vimsottari dasa of AK is usually difficult and Narayana Dasa of Rashi containing AK bring in great achievements! Regards Ramesh Sarajit Poddar [sarajitp ]Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:13 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Judging Effects of Parivartan Yoga || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Rajat, Yep... long time we have been out of touch. Thanks for the varahamihira pages... I update it regularly... so keep visting. About the Parivartana... You know there are various yogas or associations... among all such associations, the parivartana is the strongest ones. With each associations, there is exchange of qualities and since the parivartana is the strongest of all associations, the exchange of qualities are substantial. Such planets behave as if they are placed in own houses and give the results of planets they are exhanged with. About the natural qualities of the planet..,. As you know there are natural yogas which form by the virtue of their natural qualities such as Sun- Jupiter, Mars- Jupiter, Moon- Jupiter are all good yogas and Saturn- Mars, Rahu- Sun etc. are inauspicious yogas. These yogas not only happen due to conjunction, but shall happen due to exhange and mutual aspects also... The results of such associations would be felt in exchange too.. and the benefic shall give malefic results and vice- versa. About the results of exchange based on the functional nature... just interpret it as if they are conjoined and there is transfer of functional role among the planets... If there is an exchange between Piscies/ Sagittarius and Capricorn lords... such cases... Jupiter will have neechabhanga because of exchange and the significations of Jupiter shall flourish after initial setback.. Hope this clears your doubt. Best Wishes SarajitRajat Bhatia <bentleyclothing > wrote: Hare Rama KishnaDear Sarajit,Hi...longtime no talk.I much appreciate your Varahamihira pages.Could you elaborate on basic principles in judging Parivartan ofplanets.As far as I understand, when two planets sit in each other'ssigns, they have a sort of pact between them, that "you look after myhouse and I look after your house".They are in a way placed as if intheir own houses. Thus, this leads to good results.Ofcourse, we dohave to keep in mind that the exchange is not between a good house andan evil house as this creats Dur Yoga. Main queries are :1. If the exchange of signs happen between natural enemies, how willwe judge?2.What will happen when one of the participating planet isdebilitated, for example take Taurus Lagna, Saturn goes to 11th housein Pisces and Jupiter debilitat! es in 9th house.Will this help Jupiterin overcoming debilitation and give better results due to exchange?Best regards,RajatArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear Ramesh, I do not think that the Chara Karakatva of the planets can change as the exchange is more due to the virtue of lordship of signs. However since the yoga exists, any yoga involving the chara-karakatva such as AK-PK, AK-PiK etc. shall also give the results of Rajayoga. So even if there is an exchange of AK with others, it will still show difficulties in Vimshottari Dasa and excellance in Naryana Dasa. Best Wishes SarajitRamesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com> wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sarajitji, This is an interesting dimension. I have a related query. Does the exchange also affect the chara karka characteristics? e.g. what if there is an exchange between AK and AmK? How would they behave during Vimsottari and Narayana Dasas? Vimsottari dasa of AK is usually difficult and Narayana Dasa of Rashi containing AK bring in great achievements! Regards Ramesh Sarajit Poddar [sarajitp ]Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:13 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Judging Effects of Parivartan Yoga || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Rajat, Yep... long time we have been out of touch. Thanks for the varahamihira pages... I update it regularly... so keep visting. About the Parivartana... You know there are various yogas or associations... among all such associations, the parivartana is the strongest ones. With each associations, there is exchange of qualities and since the parivartana is the strongest of all associations, the exchange of qualities are substantial. Such planets behave as if they are placed in own houses and give the results of planets they are exhanged with. About the natural qualities of the planet..,. As you know there are natural yogas which form by the virtue of their natural qualities such as Sun- Jupiter, Mars- Jupiter, Moon- Jupiter are all good yogas and Saturn- Mars, Rahu- Sun etc. are inauspicious yogas. These yogas not only happen due to conjunction, but shall happen due to exhange and mutual aspects also... The results of such associations would be felt in exchange too.. and the benefic shall give malefic results and vice- versa. About the results of exchange based on the functional nature... just interpret it as if they are conjoined and there is transfer of functional role among the planets... If there is an exchange between Piscies/ Sagittarius and Capricorn lords... such cases... Jupiter will have neechabhanga because of exchange and the significations of Jupiter shall flourish after initial setback.. Hope this clears your doubt. Best Wishes SarajitRajat Bhatia <bentleyclothing > wrote: Hare Rama KishnaDear Sarajit,Hi...longtime no talk.I much appreciate your Varahamihira pages.Could you elaborate on basic principles in judging Parivartan ofplanets.As far as I understand, when two planets sit in each other'ssigns, they have a sort of pact between them, that "you look after myhouse and I look after your house".They are in a way placed as if intheir own houses. Thus, this leads to good results.Ofcourse, we dohave to keep in mind that the exchange is not between a good house andan evil house as this creats Dur Yoga. Main queries are :1. If the exchange of signs happen between natural enemies, how willwe judge?2.What will happen when one of the participating planet isdebilitated, for example take Taurus Lagna, Saturn goes to 11th housein Pisces and Jupiter debilitat! es in 9th house.Will this help Jupiterin overcoming debilitation and give better results due to exchange?Best regards,RajatArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Mail is new and improved - Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Rajat, Please follow my comments below:Rajat Bhatia <bentleyclothing > wrote: Hare Rama KrishnaDear Sarajit,Thanks for explaining it so nicely.Please help me understand even better.What I understand now is that Association or Sambandh of planets, by way of conjunction, mutual aspect, exchange etc leads to exchange of qualities between the planets.This exchange is strongest in case of Sthaan Parivartan. [sarajit] CorrectThis exchange occurs in respect of natural qualities as well temporal.Thus, the natural malefic benefits by associating with a natural benefic whereas benefic suffers by getting some malefic qualities. [sarajit] Exactly. The effect on the natural qualities can be seen throughout on the nature of the person, whereas the functional natures can be seen during appropriate dasas.Similarly, a benefic temporal lord if in exchange with a malefic temporal lord will lose its benefic qualities and its dasa may not be good.On the other hand, temporal malefic may do good. [sarajit] CorrectIs my understanding correct?Now, applying the above principles to the Taurus Asc with Jupiter in Capricorn and Saturn in pisces, exchange will be two prong --- of natural qualities and temporal. [sarajit] RightThus, Jupiter will gain by being in exchange with a good temporal lord and achieve neechbhanga. [sarajit] YesSecondly,the exchange of natural qualities will give results similar to effects of Jup-Sat conjunction. [sarajit] Yes. The native shall see suffering to mature to a wise person.But, will Saturn suffer in this exchange because Jupiter is debilitated ?Will this show in saturn periods ? [sarajit] Saturn's period would de good as any malefic associating with a benefic loses its tinge of maleficence. Jupiter dasa would make the person see sorrows as the yoga Jupiter- Saturn indicate that. However the houses ruled byJup, 8th and the 11th does not suffer as it would, had there been no exchange. Best Wishes Sarajit Best regards,Rajatvedic astrology, Sarajit Poddar wrote:> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Ramesh,> > I do not think that the Chara Karakatva of the planets can change as the exchange is more due to the virtue of lordship of signs. However since the yoga exists, any yoga involving the chara-karakatva such as AK-PK, AK-PiK etc. shall also give the results of Rajayoga. So even if there is an exchange of AK with others, it will still show difficulties in Vimshottari Dasa and excellance in Naryana Dasa.> > Best Wishes> Sarajit> > Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > Dear Sarajitji,> > This is an interesting dimension. I have a related query. Does the exchange also affect the chara karka characteristics? e.g. what if there is an exchange between AK and AmK? > How would they behave during Vimsottari and Narayana Dasas? Vimsottari dasa of AK is usually difficult and Narayana Dasa of Rashi containing AK bring in great achievements!> > Regards> Ramesh> > Sarajit Poddar [sarajitp]> Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:13 AM> vedic astrology> Re: [vedic astrology] Judging Effects of Parivartan Yoga> > > || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Rajat,> > Yep... long time we have been out of touch. Thanks for the varahamihira pages... I update it regularly... so keep visting.> > About the Parivartana... You know there are various yogas or associations... among all such associations, the parivartana is the strongest ones. With each associations, there is exchange of qualities and since the parivartana is the strongest of all associations, the exchange of qualities are substantial. Such planets behave as if they are placed in own houses and give the results of planets they are exhanged with.> > About the natural qualities of the planet..,. As you know there are natural yogas which form by the virtue of their natural qualities such as Sun- Jupiter, Mars- Jupiter, Moon- Jupiter are all good yogas and Saturn- Mars, Rahu- Sun etc. are inauspicious yogas. These yogas not only happen due to conjunction, but shall happen due to exhange and mutual aspects also... The results of such associations would be felt in exchange too.. and the benefic shall give malefic results and vice- versa.> > About the results of exchange based on the functional nature... just interpret it as if they are conjoined and there is transfer of functional role among the planets... If there is an exchange between Piscies/ Sagittarius and Capricorn lords... such cases... Jupiter will have neechabhanga because of exchange and the significations of Jupiter shall flourish after initial setback..> > Hope this clears your doubt.> > Best Wishes> Sarajit> > Rajat Bhatia wrote:> > Hare Rama Kishna> > Dear Sarajit,> > Hi...longtime no talk.I much appreciate your Varahamihira pages.> > Could you elaborate on basic principles in judging Parivartan of> planets.As far as I understand, when two planets sit in each other's> signs, they have a sort of pact between them, that "you look after my> house and I look after your house".They are in a way placed as if in> their own houses. Thus, this leads to good results.Ofcourse, we do> have to keep in mind that the exchange is not between a good house and> an evil house as this creats Dur Yoga. > > Main queries are :> > 1. If the exchange of signs happen between natural enemies, how will> we judge?> > 2.What will happen when one of the participating planet is> debilitated, for example take Taurus Lagna, Saturn goes to 11th house> in Pisces and Jupiter debilitat! es in 9th house.Will this help Jupiter> in overcoming debilitation and give better results due to exchange?> > Best regards,> > Rajat> > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > > > > Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > Sponsor> > > > Links> > > vedic astrology/> > To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > Mail is new and improved - Check it out! 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Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Sarajit, Few more queries : I remember reading in may be COVA, Ju was conjunct Me in Virgo in 10th house.Sanjay ji said, Ju being in Me's house will act like Me. 1.What does this mean? Has conjunction resulted in exchange of qualities? 2.So, will Me act like Ju in Me dasa? 3.Would the results have been same ie exchange of qualities, if conjunction had occured not in Me's Virgo but some other sign owned neither by Me or Ju? 4.If conjunction would have been in Ju's Sag or Pisces,what difference would it have made and will Me act in its dasa like Jup? Best regards, Rajat vedic astrology, Sarajit Poddar <sarajitp> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Rajat, > > Please follow my comments below: > > Rajat Bhatia <bentleyclothing> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Sarajit, > > Thanks for explaining it so nicely.Please help me understand even better. > > What I understand now is that Association or Sambandh of planets, by way of conjunction, mutual aspect, exchange etc leads to exchange of qualities between the planets.This exchange is strongest in case of Sthaan Parivartan. > > [sarajit] Correct > > This exchange occurs in respect of natural qualities as well temporal. > Thus, the natural malefic benefits by associating with a natural benefic whereas benefic suffers by getting some malefic qualities. > > [sarajit] Exactly. The effect on the natural qualities can be seen throughout on the nature of the person, whereas the functional natures can be seen during appropriate dasas. > > Similarly, a benefic temporal lord if in exchange with a malefic temporal lord will lose its benefic qualities and its dasa may not be good.On the other hand, temporal malefic may do good. > > [sarajit] Correct > > Is my understanding correct? > > Now, applying the above principles to the Taurus Asc with Jupiter in Capricorn and Saturn in pisces, exchange will be two prong --- of natural qualities and temporal. > > [sarajit] Right > > Thus, Jupiter will gain by being in exchange with a good temporal lord and achieve neechbhanga. > > [sarajit] Yes > > Secondly,the exchange of natural qualities will give results similar to effects of Jup-Sat conjunction. > > [sarajit] Yes. The native shall see suffering to mature to a wise person. > > But, will Saturn suffer in this exchange because Jupiter is debilitated ?Will this show in saturn periods ? > > [sarajit] Saturn's period would de good as any malefic associating with a benefic loses its tinge of maleficence. Jupiter dasa would make the person see sorrows as the yoga Jupiter- Saturn indicate that. However the houses ruled byJup, 8th and the 11th does not suffer as it would, had there been no exchange. > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > Best regards, > > Rajat > vedic astrology, Sarajit Poddar wrote: > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > I do not think that the Chara Karakatva of the planets can change as the exchange is more due to the virtue of lordship of signs. However since the yoga exists, any yoga involving the chara-karakatva such as AK-PK, AK-PiK etc. shall also give the results of Rajayoga. So even if there is an exchange of AK with others, it will still show difficulties in Vimshottari Dasa and excellance in Naryana Dasa. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Sarajitji, > > > > This is an interesting dimension. I have a related query. Does the exchange also affect the chara karka characteristics? e.g. what if there is an exchange between AK and AmK? > > How would they behave during Vimsottari and Narayana Dasas? Vimsottari dasa of AK is usually difficult and Narayana Dasa of Rashi containing AK bring in great achievements! > > > > Regards > > Ramesh > > > > Sarajit Poddar [sarajitp] > > Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:13 AM > > vedic astrology > > Re: [vedic astrology] Judging Effects of Parivartan Yoga > > > > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > > Dear Rajat, > > > > Yep... long time we have been out of touch. Thanks for the varahamihira pages... I update it regularly... so keep visting. > > > > About the Parivartana... You know there are various yogas or associations... among all such associations, the parivartana is the strongest ones. With each associations, there is exchange of qualities and since the parivartana is the strongest of all associations, the exchange of qualities are substantial. Such planets behave as if they are placed in own houses and give the results of planets they are exhanged with. > > > > About the natural qualities of the planet..,. As you know there are natural yogas which form by the virtue of their natural qualities such as Sun- Jupiter, Mars- Jupiter, Moon- Jupiter are all good yogas and Saturn- Mars, Rahu- Sun etc. are inauspicious yogas. These yogas not only happen due to conjunction, but shall happen due to exhange and mutual aspects also... The results of such associations would be felt in exchange too.. and the benefic shall give malefic results and vice- versa. > > > > About the results of exchange based on the functional nature... just interpret it as if they are conjoined and there is transfer of functional role among the planets... If there is an exchange between Piscies/ Sagittarius and Capricorn lords... such cases... Jupiter will have neechabhanga because of exchange and the significations of Jupiter shall flourish after initial setback.. > > > > Hope this clears your doubt. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > Rajat Bhatia wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Kishna > > > > Dear Sarajit, > > > > Hi...longtime no talk.I much appreciate your Varahamihira pages. > > > > Could you elaborate on basic principles in judging Parivartan of > > planets.As far as I understand, when two planets sit in each other's > > signs, they have a sort of pact between them, that "you look after my > > house and I look after your house".They are in a way placed as if in > > their own houses. Thus, this leads to good results.Ofcourse, we do > > have to keep in mind that the exchange is not between a good house and > > an evil house as this creats Dur Yoga. > > > > Main queries are : > > > > 1. If the exchange of signs happen between natural enemies, how will > > we judge? > > > > 2.What will happen when one of the participating planet is > > debilitated, for example take Taurus Lagna, Saturn goes to 11th house > > in Pisces and Jupiter debilitat! es in 9th house.Will this help Jupiter > > in overcoming debilitation and give better results due to exchange? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Rajat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Dear Rajat, You have got the essence. Now apply this in some real life horoscopes and study the effect. Then only you would know the true effect of parivartana. Best Wishes SarajitRajat Bhatia <bentleyclothing > wrote: Hare Rama KrishnaDear Sarajit,Few more queries :I remember reading in may be COVA, Ju was conjunct Me in Virgo in10th house.Sanjay ji said, Ju being in Me's house will act like Me.1.What does this mean? Has conjunction resulted in exchange ofqualities?2.So, will Me act like Ju in Me dasa?3.Would the results havebeen same ie exchange of qualities, if conjunction had occured not inMe's Virgo but some other sign owned neither by Me or Ju?4.If conjunction would have been in Ju's Sag or Pisces,what difference would it have made and will Me act in its dasalike Jup?Best regards,Rajatvedic astrology, Sarajit Poddar<sarajitp> wrote:> || Jaya Jagannath ||> Dear Rajat,> > Please follow my comments below:> > Rajat Bhatia <bentleyclothing> wrote:> > Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear Sarajit,> > Thanks for explaining it so nicely.Please help me understand evenbetter.> > What I understand now is that Association or Sambandh of planets,by way of conjunction, mutual aspect, exchange etc leads to exchangeof qualities between the planets.This exchange is strongest in caseof Sthaan Parivartan.> > [sarajit] Correct> > This exchange occurs in respect of natural qualities as welltemporal.> Thus, the natural malefic benefits by associating with a naturalbenefic whereas benefic suffers by getting some malefic qualities.> > [sarajit] Exactly. The effect on the natural qualities can be seenthroughout on the nature of the person, whereas the functionalnatures can be seen during appropriate dasas.> > Similarly, a benefic temporal lord if in exchange with a malefictemporal lord will lose its benefic qualities and its dasa may not begood.On the other hand, temporal malefic may do good.> > [sarajit] Correct> > Is my understanding correct?> > Now, applying the above principles to the Taurus Asc with Jupiterin Capricorn and Saturn in pisces, exchange will be two prong --- ofnatural qualities and temporal.> > [sarajit] Right> > Thus, Jupiter will gain by being in exchange with a good temporallord and achieve neechbhanga.> > [sarajit] Yes> > Secondly,the exchange of natural qualities will give resultssimilar to effects of Jup-Sat conjunction.> > [sarajit] Yes. The native shall see suffering to mature to a wiseperson.> > But, will Saturn suffer in this exchange because Jupiter isdebilitated ?Will this show in saturn periods ?> > [sarajit] Saturn's period would de good as any malefic associatingwith a benefic loses its tinge of maleficence. Jupiter dasa wouldmake the person see sorrows as the yoga Jupiter- Saturn indicatethat. However the houses ruled byJup, 8th and the 11th does notsuffer as it would, had there been no exchange.> > Best Wishes> > Sarajit > > Best regards,> > Rajat> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sarajit Poddar wrote:> > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Ramesh,> > > > I do not think that the Chara Karakatva of the planets can changeas the exchange is more due to the virtue of lordship of signs.However since the yoga exists, any yoga involving the chara-karakatvasuch as AK-PK, AK-PiK etc. shall also give the results of Rajayoga.So even if there is an exchange of AK with others, it will still showdifficulties in Vimshottari Dasa and excellance in Naryana Dasa.> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > Dear Sarajitji,> > > > This is an interesting dimension. I have a related query. Doesthe exchange also affect the chara karka characteristics? e.g. whatif there is an exchange between AK and AmK? > > How would they behave during Vimsottari and Narayana Dasas?Vimsottari dasa of AK is usually difficult and Narayana Dasa of Rashicontaining AK bring in great achievements!> > > > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > Sarajit Poddar [sarajitp]> > Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:13 AM> > vedic astrology> > Re: [vedic astrology] Judging Effects of Parivartan Yoga> > > > > > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Rajat,> > > > Yep... long time we have been out of touch. Thanks for thevarahamihira pages... I update it regularly... so keep visting.> > > > About the Parivartana... You know there are various yogas orassociations... among all such associations, the parivartana is thestrongest ones. With each associations, there is exchange ofqualities and since the parivartana is the strongest of allassociations, the exchange of qualities are substantial. Such planetsbehave as if they are placed in own houses and give the results ofplanets they are exhanged with.> > > > About the natural qualities of the planet..,. As you know thereare natural yogas which form by the virtue of their natural qualitiessuch as Sun- Jupiter, Mars- Jupiter, Moon- Jupiter are all good yogasand Saturn- Mars, Rahu- Sun etc. are inauspicious yogas. These yogasnot only happen due to conjunction, but shall happen due to exhangeand mutual aspects also... The results of such associations would befelt in exchange too.. and the benefic shall give malefic results andvice- versa.> > > > About the results of exchange based on the functional nature...just interpret it as if they are conjoined and there is transfer offunctional role among the planets... If there is an exchange betweenPiscies/ Sagittarius and Capricorn lords... such cases... Jupiterwill have neechabhanga because of exchange and the significations ofJupiter shall flourish after initial setback..> > > > Hope this clears your doubt.> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > Rajat Bhatia wrote:> > > > Hare Rama Kishna> > > > Dear Sarajit,> > > > Hi...longtime no talk.I much appreciate your Varahamihira pages.> > > > Could you elaborate on basic principles in judging Parivartan of> > planets.As far as I understand, when two planets sit in eachother's> > signs, they have a sort of pact between them, that "you lookafter my> > house and I look after your house".They are in a way placed as ifin> > their own houses. Thus, this leads to good results.Ofcourse, we do> > have to keep in mind that the exchange is not between a goodhouse and> > an evil house as this creats Dur Yoga. > > > > Main queries are :> > > > 1. If the exchange of signs happen between natural enemies, howwill> > we judge?> > > > 2.What will happen when one of the participating planet is> > debilitated, for example take Taurus Lagna, Saturn goes to 11thhouse> > in Pisces and Jupiter debilitat! es in 9th house.Will this helpJupiter> > in overcoming debilitation and give better results due toexchange?> > > > Best regards,> > > > Rajat> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > ....... 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