RE: JHora and Varnada Lagna Clarification) Clearification Sri Narasimha

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Dear

Narasimha,

He is right,

the colors of the sign in which the Varëada lagna is placed is very important,

and indicates the quality you must learn or take on to do your work. I.e. Libra

is black in color and represents working in ignorance, i.e. without light. Hence

such people need to learn how to research, dig out information, etc. Similarly

the color of each sign becomes important.

The sign

occupied lord of Varëada lagna (notice I’m talking only of Varnada lagna

and not the 11th from it) is the quality one must aspire to take on.

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font-family:Arial">Namaste Sir,

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font-family:Arial">> Dear Sri Narasimha,

>

> On a second thought, would Varnada chart indicate predominance of

> VARNA

(Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby indicating

> bend of mind of a person /source of income from such fields indicated

> by predominance of Varna

regarding his Ajeevika ?

>

> Tatvam-Asi

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font-family:Arial">When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies planetary

influences as Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in all likelihood, he

was talking about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only and not colors or any

such things.

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font-family:Arial">You don't need to address me as "Sri".

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font-family:Arial">May Jupiter's light shine on us,

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|Hare Räma Kåñëa|

Dear

Narasimha, Namaskar

But Varëa

means color?

Whether you

use the colors of the planets (for complexion) or the colors of the signs, is a

different issue.

As for this

method of using the Varëada lagna, I have no specific reference.

Guruji spent

some hours teaching us about the colors, and did so based on only the word; varëa.

This is what

MW says about Varëa

 

a covering ,

cloak , mantle L. a cover , lid Ya1jn5. iii , 99 outward appearance , exterior

, form , figure , shape , colour RV. &c. &c. colour of the face ,

(esp.) good colour or complexion , lustre , beauty Mn. MBh. &c. colour ,

tint , dye , pigment (for painting or writing) MBh. Ka1v. &c. colour = race

, species , kind , sort , character , nature , quality , property (applied to

persons and things) RV. &c. &c. class of men , tribe , order , caste

(prob. from contrast of colour between the dark aboriginal tribes and their

fair conquerors ; in RV. esp. applied to the A1ryas and the Da1sas ; but more

properly applicable to the four principal classes described in Manu's code ,

viz. Bra1hmans , Kshatriyas , Vais3yas , and Su1dras ; the more modern word for

`" caste "' being ja1ti ; cf. IW. 210 n. 1) ib. a letter , sound ,

vowel , syllable , word Br. Pra1t. &c. a musical sound or note (also

applied to the voice of animals) MBh. R. Pan5cat. the order or arrangement of a

song or poem W. praise , commendation , renown , glory Mr2icch. Kum. Ra1jat.

(in alg.) an unknown magnitude or quantity (in arithm.) the figure , `"

one "' (accord. to some) a co-efficient a kind of measure L. (cf. %{-tAla})

gold L. a religious observance L. one who wards off , expeller Sa1y. on RV. i ,

104 , 2 (%{A}) f. Cajanus Indicus L. n. saffron L. [Cf. accord. to some , Slav.

{vranu8} , `" black "' , `" a crow "' Lith. {vA7rnas} ,

`" a crow. "']

 

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10.0pt">Dear Visti,

Can you show me classical basis for using colors

this way with

varnada lagna?

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> He is right, the colors of the sign in which

the Varëada lagna is

placed is

> very important, and indicates the quality you

must learn or take

on to do

> your work. I.e. Libra is black in color and

represents working in

ignorance,

> i.e. without light. Hence such people need to

learn how to

research, dig out

> information, etc. Similarly the color of each

sign becomes

important.

>

> The sign occupied lord of Varëada lagna

(notice I'm talking only

of Varnada

> lagna and not the 11th from it) is the

quality one must aspire to

take on.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

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> 01 July 2004 06:19

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> [vedic astrology] Re: JHora and

Varnada Lagna

Clarification)

> Clearification Sri Narasimha

>

>

>

> Namaste Sir,

>

>

>

> > Dear Sri Narasimha,

> >

> > On a second thought, would Varnada chart

indicate predominance

of

> > VARNA

(Colour) of either Satva, Rajas and Tamas ? Thereby

indicating

> > bend of mind of a person /source of

income from such fields

indicated

> > by predominance of Varna regarding his Ajeevika ?

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> When referring to Varnada, Jaimini classifies

planetary influences

as

> Brahmana, Kshatriya, Vaisya and Sudra. So, in

all likelihood, he

was talking

> about varnas of the varnasrama dharma only

and not colors or any

such

> things.

>

>

>

> You don't need to address me as

"Sri".

>

>

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

>

> Narasimha

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|Hare Räma Kåñëa|

Dear Narasimha, Namaskar

I’ll leave the

color issue for now. One point;

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10.0pt">Your wrote:

10.0pt">In any case, all should be applied in the context of varna. If you do

not agree that one's varna

is decided by one's abilities and what

varna dharma one follows and instead insist on linking it to the

sources of income and how much money one makes in

various activities,

I am afraid we do not have a common ground.

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Visti: Abilities would

be wrong to say – it’s the opportunity. And specifically in the 11th

from VL it shows those opportunities you can earn through. That’s why the

lord of 11th from VL is connected with ones earnings.

 

When I talked about

Guruji’s chart, I was not referring to 11th from VL to see how

much money he made, but whether he could earn at all. The opportunity to earn

must be there.

 

The Varëada Lagna itself

has nothing to do with ones earnings, and shows those opportunities one has to

manifest oneself. I have written this in another mail as well. Similarly other

houses from VL specifically talk of various opportunities and support, but only

11th from VL shows opportunities to earn through.

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10.0pt">Dear Visti,

Apart from the meaning of varna as in "varnaasrama dharma"

(e.g.

Brahmana, Kshatriya etc), varna also means color. I never disputed

that. I did not ask for a classical reference to

show that that

meaning is valid.

What I asked was a classical reference to show

that the color of a

sign or planet should be used when judging varnada

lagna.

When talking about varnada, Jaimini said that the

sign involved

should be examined. He did not say how. Then he

said the planet

involved should be examined and there he explained

how. He outlined

which planets are which varna (i.e. which show Brahmana, which show

Kshatriya etc).

So, when judging the sign involved, there is no

clear guidance. One

may suggest using all kinds of parameters like the

duality of the

sign, triplicity of the sign, quadruplicity of the

sign, various

significations of the sign etc. But they must all

be understood in

the context of varna. Color of a sign is just another

parameter. If

you give more importance to that parameter than

others just because

varna also means color, I do not agree. I need classical

sanction.

In any case, all should be applied in the context

of varna. If

you do

not agree that one's varna

is decided by one's abilities and what

varna dharma one follows and instead insist on linking it to the

sources of income and how much money one makes in

various activities,

I am afraid we do not have a common ground.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Narasimha, Namaskar

>

> But Varëa means color?

>

> Whether you use the colors of the planets

(for complexion) or the

colors of

> the signs, is a different issue.

>

> As for this method of using the Varëada

lagna, I have no specific

reference.

>

> Guruji spent some hours teaching us about the

colors, and did so

based on

> only the word; varëa.

>

> This is what MW says about Varëa

>

>

>

> a covering , cloak , mantle L. a cover , lid

Ya1jn5. iii , 99

outward

> appearance , exterior , form , figure , shape

, colour RV. &c. &c.

colour of

> the face , (esp.) good colour or complexion ,

lustre , beauty Mn.

MBh. &c.

> colour , tint , dye , pigment (for painting

or writing) MBh. Ka1v.

&c.

> colour = race , species , kind , sort ,

character , nature ,

quality ,

> property (applied to persons and things) RV.

&c. &c. class of men ,

tribe ,

> order , caste (prob. from contrast of colour

between the dark

aboriginal

> tribes and their fair conquerors ; in RV.

esp. applied to the

A1ryas and the

> Da1sas ; but more properly applicable to the

four principal classes

> described in Manu's code , viz. Bra1hmans ,

Kshatriyas , Vais3yas ,

and

> Su1dras ; the more modern word for `"

caste "' being ja1ti ; cf.

IW. 210 n.

> 1) ib. a letter , sound , vowel , syllable ,

word Br. Pra1t. &c. a

musical

> sound or note (also applied to the voice of

animals) MBh. R.

Pan5cat. the

> order or arrangement of a song or poem W.

praise , commendation ,

renown ,

> glory Mr2icch. Kum. Ra1jat. (in alg.) an

unknown magnitude or

quantity (in

> arithm.) the figure , `" one "'

(accord. to some) a co-efficient a

kind of

> measure L. (cf. %{-tAla}) gold L. a religious

observance L. one who

wards

> off , expeller Sa1y. on RV. i , 104 , 2

(%{A}) f. Cajanus Indicus

L. n.

> saffron L. [Cf. accord. to some , Slav.

{vranu8} , `" black "' , `"

a crow

> "' Lith. {vA7rnas} , `" a crow.

"']

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

 

 

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