Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| Dear Pradeep, I forget to add these points in my analysis before. Pls note his sickness is started and Rahu dasa also starts!! Rahu is in Ven Star placed in 4th and lord of 6th and 11th (here if u interprete 11th as 6th to 6th hence also called as Rudra Sthana) and also as Rahu is with Sat lord of maraka sthana 2,3 and if consider in previous H due to Vakri in 8th, Rahu Dasa and Rahu antar is self explaintary for his Sickness and in transit maraka Shani aspecting Lagna along with aspect of Rahu on Asc! Now regarding his 5th lord in 4th ,don't forget to note that mars is placed in Badhakesh star and along with badhaka and 6th and 11 th lord!! (I think this will explain your basic question of whole scenario in more satisfactory way) Also he's 12th lord so waste of money and initial education may not come to help him! So in future also I think he may not complete his Graduation!! (He'll clear Diploma but may not take admission to Deree ) Also note Mars is AK showing suffering and cleaning of Atma associates with 4th H!! Still if any thing is remaining pls let me know! Regards, Vinay Patwardhan - patwardhanvinay vedic astrology Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:01 AM RE:--Re: Ans to Puzzel no 1 ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| Dear Pradeep, I'm once again congratulating you for such a indepth attitude towards the studies Pls continue your efforts and enlight many of us by such wonderful post! I'm also not confident on this case but have think alot to get the ans and I've to use many things which are out of scope to discuss on list in details, but I find one interesting observation that even though I'm not having single book on Nadi but have heard taht they have used Transits of main planets very effectively and I find some corelation in this case also!! (I may be wrong also so pls rectify wherever i'm wrong) Pls look at the transit Sat is in Pi when he had first drop and Jup in Cp and Rahu is in Leo!! See Sat is in 4th H, 4 th Lord Jup is debilitated in transits and mainly Rahu has complete his first round of 18 yrs!! I think we have ignored the effect of KSY (In this case a complete KSY) Hence see the transit position of Sat in 4th(Also 8th from 9th and original Sat in chart significator for 2,3 Houses and placed in 9th and star lord of 4thLord), Jup in 2nd (in 2nd maraka H and 6th to 9th) debilitated a 4th lord and Karka of 9th H, and once again Rahu is in 9th and transiting over natal Sat+Rah combination!! (Check here about Rah-Guru is started and if u use RTN method also then things will get more interesting but as an amature I won't comment on that but think and let me know ur opinion if u had done this study ) If we see the same transit in D24 then Sat transiting D24 lagna, Jup over Mars+nodes (Interestingly rahu doshas are present inD24 also) and Rahu is transiting over 6th H and afflicting Guru in D24 . So if you add these points to your dasa analysis you may have very close vision also! (I'm not sure and confidenent that if i 'd given a try I may note take so many points as we r discussing in my regular ans! But in this case I've to do a lot of work to point out this brake in education and hence I just want all to get benefited and to reveal the truth that even though we'd learned too many things we r not applying them! That's our shortcomings and we should change our attitude, atleast this is a message for me) Then Sat will move over Sun , 9 th lord in 5th H and lastly over moon dispositer of 4th lord so he's detrimental for 4th house! Also consider his aspects! (Saade Sati is also ther to make him pesemistic) Rahu will also move from Leo to Cn and does aspect the 4th and passing over Jup the 4th lord then It'll come in Samsaptaka from Mid of 2000 and make him ambitious to do the business and same time Sat + Jup are in 6th H over dispositer of 4th lord and Jup aspecting 10th! He got involved in Business!! Also note Sat is in 10th in D10 and dasas of Rah-Sat!! Then from previous year Guru transiting over Natal Guru a good transit and Jup aspects his own house again (4th)and Sat is in Ge at that time and Sat gives beneficial changes in his education by aspecting 4th H again, He got tempted and finally get admission on 10th basis to Diploma! Here Ge is 4th H to D24 and with natal Sat in D24 so after some fights at home he took admission and this is not a cake walk to him :-) Also Jup is in 5th H and aspecting his own Lagna in D24 ! As I'm not aware of using D-charts much in analysis if u see the transit in D24, this will help me to learn more! But I think using transits effectively we can reach to perfections (off course along with Dasas) !! Pls note I'm also an amature like u and we all can share our charts on list in form of puzzels(OR we can call it as Discussion Charts for all) and making comments on our analysis and lastly ask Guru's to correct us! I think this will improve our effeciency to learn! Healthy approach with Holy Guidence of Gurus may do miracles for all students ! If You point out any thing which I've not written or not correct pls rectify me, open heartly. Regards, Vinay Patwardhan "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:25 pm Re: Ans to Puzzel no 1 Click HereDear VinayI was bit busy personally and hence the delay in reply.You areperfectly right in making the statement regarding assumptions andguesses.These kinds of quizzes will definitely help us to learn andthink.Timing of events and confirmations in a predictive fashion isreally tough and challenging.Thanks a lot for sharing the chart and your valuable tips andhints.The case is really interesting.Could you kindly analyse thereasons for this BIG break or gap?I had 'guessed' the stream as technical in my first mail (by seeingthe influence of 5th lord mars plus karaka mercury on the 4thhouse).But how do we confirm on such cases!!In my first mail regarding this topic , i had mentioned about theposition of lagna lord and ist dispositor in dusthanas thoughexalted.Also position of gulika in lagna.But because of exaltation itermed the health as OK/Average.But from your mail it was evidentthat this position was enough to make the native struggle with healthat a young age.This was interesting to note.Kindly elaborate.His aptitude is being shown by the exalted planets and yogas.Butpassing exams and certificates were lacking!!From your previous mail i have understood the importance of kartariyogas and kemadruma while analysing the strengths of yogas.Alsoneechabhangas do not deliver easily(after dificulties ,struggles ordelayed).Hence 4th house ,house of honour was bit stressed.Due to thereasons mentioned by you and presence of debilitated mercury.Mercuryposition from other references were also playing.But dispositors madehim knowledgeable but not kind enough to give honour.But can we thinklater on this situation may change!!Especially as 5th lord Mars is in4th?I think as you have pointed out Rahu the current dasha and istposition in 9th and transits were important hints regarding luck andloss of the individual.Will try to analyse giving importance tonakshthras as well in the future with the guidance of learned members.Thanks to Sarvashree Sabri & Raman & Ramesh for sharing theirknowledge.Thanks for the explanations and post more study charts.I am forwarding another mail from shri Kapilasthalam ji with timingof events,which came to my inbox by mistake.Best regdsPradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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