Brahmacharya............ New perspective

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Dear Hamsa,

Correction to

your mail; when you are 6 Celibacy is not a matter of choice.

Its in this

stage of the Brahmacarya Varnashrama that the Mother desires you to worship her

in, hence a requirement for Devi Sadhana is celibacy – going back to

childhood and being a baby in the mothers lap.

The rest of

the mail is your research, and in respect I will not touch that. However I must

say that I was taught quite differently.

Best wishes,

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Brahmacharya............ New perspective

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10.0pt">Hello Friends,

Being celibate is a matter of choice. It has to do

with MANAS and

PRAGNA.

Mind is represented by Moon, "Chandrama

Manaso Jatah" .

Mind is equated to a MONKEY (Shall I say Hanuman

?).

Hanuman represents control over Mind resulting

into being JITENDRIYA.

Unless Pragna is sthira and Manas is controlled,

Brahmacharya is

impossible.

True Brahamacharya is depicted by SHIVA , It is

Shiva who burnt

Kamadeva and not Hanuman.

Shivatatva in a human being makes one a

Brahmachari.

Ketu (As per Nodes Theory of this being)represents

Shiva who gives

Moksha.

Let me quote from the undersigned's paper on

Astrology and Modern

Science with Periodic Table example..

"KETU AS LORD OF 9TH ZERO GROUP.(Of periodic

Table)

All inert gases like Helium, Neon, Xenon Radon etc

are found in this

group. Ketu lords over this group. All the Vrittis

, when subsided,

lead to peace and Moksha. As all the outermost

shells of these

elements have satisfied orbits , the electrons are

not available to

react. Hence they are inert elements. They light

up infancy colours

only when energy in form of electricity passes

through. It is the

form I call as SHAVA. Meaning Dead Body. Without

Shakti it is Shava.

Once Shakti passes thro' it, It becomes SHIVA.

In celebacy, stress is more on subduing Vrittis by

Manonigraha.

Dhanur Rasi represents true Shiva Tatva .

Please read the following of undersigned's

article.

MESHA-SIMHA-DHANUR RASIS

TRIANGLE OF ETERNAL LIFE

I would like to bring to you, importance of Signs

Mesha, Simha and

Dhanur.

If Mesha is the jathaka, then Dhanur Rasi is the

father.

Nakshatras in Dhanur rasi are, Moola, belonging to

Ketu, Purvashadha

of Shukra and U.Shadha of Surya.If you think the

significance of

this, it means, Father puts Atma Tatwa(Sun) in His

sperms(Shukra) and

thereby reduces his own life (ketu) .Ketu is

smashana, ash, end

moksha there is a beginning in the end.

If you take Triad of Mesha, Simha and Dhanur

rasis, you will find

that each of the above rasis has Nakshatras

belonging to Ketu, Surya

and Shukra. Mesha contains, Ashvini(Ketu), Bharani

(Shukra) and

Krittika(Sun).

Of these, Krittika(Sun) is only a part.If you take

Simha rasi, it

consists of Magha, Purva Phalguni and

U.Phalguni.Of these U. Phalguni

is only a part.

Since only 1st pada of Sun's Nakshatra in all the

cases is present,

it means Father puts only a part of his Atma tatwa

in the Sperm. As

he may have many other children. Bharani ,

P.Phalguni and P.shadha

are complete Nakshatra meaning Mother is always

complete.They are

Matru Tatwa Nakshatras,Owned by Venus.

Ashvini, Magha and Mula are Purusha Tatwa ,

signifying Adi Pita

Shiva.The eternal Yogi.

The triad of signs are ruled by Brahma, (Mesha),

Narayan Vishnu

(Simha) and Dhanush (Shiva) the eternal Purusha,

Parama Pita ,Adi

Guru, Eternal Hunter,and parama Yogi Sada Shiva.

Mesha is Aimkaar

Simha is Hrim kaar

Dhanur is Klim kaar

You remember a saying "A child is the father

of man"?

Look at your 5th house it denotes your son , your

9th is father. Your

grandfather is again 9th from 9th which is 5th.

This is an eternal cycle of life.

why Dhanus is Shiva's sign?

Rishis have awarded ownership of Dhanur Rasi to

Guru,

but Dhanur Rasi depics A HUNTER which is not

exactly

how Guru would behave.

As per my research , Ketus of Sani and Guru are in

Dhanur rasi,

complete Shiva Tatva is denoted by Ketu's domain

as owner and

occupiers of Dhanur Rasi.Dhanur rasi is

represented by A Hunter.

Dhanur Rasi has SAKE,and GUKE the southern nodes

of Sani and Guru. It

also has Mula Nakshatra of Lunar southern node

Ketu.

Having three Ketus power is something very very

powerful thing.

Ketu is termed as Daruna, Tikshna,Hangman,Atirogi,

Sinful planet,

karaka of Pain and suffering,Tamasika, living in

cremation ground,

without any Rasa, a snake, he is very old of Vayu

prakriti,Akash

Tatwa ,Headless spirit.

On the positive side, Ketu is Moksha karaka and

Antargyani.

So when Guru becomes the lord of Dhanur Rasi, he

is responsible for

imbibing the attributes of Ketus of Dhanu Rasi.

Imagine how will it be when there are Two

Permanent Ketus in Dhanur

rasi and aspect of Sani's Rahu SARA and Guru's

Rahu GURA on Dhanur

Rasi ??.

In my opinion, Ownership of Dhanur rasi should be

awarded to Ketu and

not Guru or Brihaspati.

Mesha is chara, , Leo is sthira and Dhanur rasi is

Dwiswabhava sign.

Shiva is Ardha Narishwara.

so Dhanus is shiva meaning shava(Dead

body)+I(Shakti) kaar= shiva.

Of the triad of signs I told as above, only Dhanur

rasi is

Dwiswabhava rasi. It is a sign which is neither

chara or sthira.

Shakti is sthira, shiva is chara but shiva becomes

Ardha narishwara

in Dhanur.

This means, when pita and mata have union, (Dhanur

rasi) Mesha is

born (kartik, Deva senadhipati).

THEREFORE 9TH HOUSE AND

9TH RASI DHANUS IS XTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR

THIS REASON.

Where does Mars come in these circumstances being

lord of Celibacy?

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

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Dear Sjt.Visti

 

As said before, if we want to operate out of concepts, it is one's

choice. Where in the name of God, did this being refer to

Brahmacharya at the age of 6?

 

When we talk of Brahmacharya in this context (ADOPTING CELEBATE MODE

OF LIFE LIKE HANUMAN DID),we are talking of Mano Nigraha where Moon

and Sun Atma come into play.

 

This being admires your devotion to your Guru.(Eventhough you are

running Rahu dasa)

 

Please continue swimming in circles, this being has no objections.

 

But same Guru has written that,

 

"""None of us has a perfect understanding of

Jyotish and our tools are far from perfect. Some may be too proud to

accept this, but this is the truth. We are all trying to improve

constantly. I too have attempted many puzzles before, some

successfully and some with failure and know the limitations very

well. Let us show respect for someone for trying and improve

collectively, rather than criticizing someone.".............. UNQUOTE

 

Having blinkers while reading this being's posting is no concern . It

is just that someone denies existence of evrything other than what he

was told to look at.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Visti @ Denmark"

<visti@s...> wrote:

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Hamsa,

>

> Correction to your mail; when you are 6 Celibacy is not a matter of

choice.

>

> Its in this stage of the Brahmacarya Varnashrama that the Mother

desires you

> to worship her in, hence a requirement for Devi Sadhana is

celibacy – going

> back to childhood and being a baby in the mothers lap.

>

> The rest of the mail is your research, and in respect I will not

touch that.

> However I must say that I was taught quite differently.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

_____

>

> nameisego [nameisego]

> 15 June 2004 10:47

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Brahmacharya............ New perspective

>

>

>

> Hello Friends,

>

> Being celibate is a matter of choice. It has to do with MANAS and

> PRAGNA.

>

> Mind is represented by Moon, "Chandrama Manaso Jatah" .

> Mind is equated to a MONKEY (Shall I say Hanuman ?).

> Hanuman represents control over Mind resulting into being

JITENDRIYA.

>

> Unless Pragna is sthira and Manas is controlled, Brahmacharya is

> impossible.

> True Brahamacharya is depicted by SHIVA , It is Shiva who burnt

> Kamadeva and not Hanuman.

>

> Shivatatva in a human being makes one a Brahmachari.

> Ketu (As per Nodes Theory of this being)represents Shiva who gives

> Moksha.

> Let me quote from the undersigned's paper on Astrology and Modern

> Science with Periodic Table example..

>

> "KETU AS LORD OF 9TH ZERO GROUP.(Of periodic Table)

>

> All inert gases like Helium, Neon, Xenon Radon etc are found in

this

> group. Ketu lords over this group. All the Vrittis , when subsided,

> lead to peace and Moksha. As all the outermost shells of these

> elements have satisfied orbits , the electrons are not available to

> react. Hence they are inert elements. They light up infancy colours

> only when energy in form of electricity passes through. It is the

> form I call as SHAVA. Meaning Dead Body. Without Shakti it is

Shava.

> Once Shakti passes thro' it, It becomes SHIVA.

>

> In celebacy, stress is more on subduing Vrittis by Manonigraha.

> Dhanur Rasi represents true Shiva Tatva .

>

>

> Please read the following of undersigned's article.

>

> MESHA-SIMHA-DHANUR RASIS

>

> TRIANGLE OF ETERNAL LIFE

>

>

> I would like to bring to you, importance of Signs Mesha, Simha and

> Dhanur.

> If Mesha is the jathaka, then Dhanur Rasi is the father.

> Nakshatras in Dhanur rasi are, Moola, belonging to Ketu,

Purvashadha

> of Shukra and U.Shadha of Surya.If you think the significance of

> this, it means, Father puts Atma Tatwa(Sun) in His sperms(Shukra)

and

> thereby reduces his own life (ketu) .Ketu is smashana, ash, end

> moksha there is a beginning in the end.

>

> If you take Triad of Mesha, Simha and Dhanur rasis, you will find

> that each of the above rasis has Nakshatras belonging to Ketu,

Surya

> and Shukra. Mesha contains, Ashvini(Ketu), Bharani (Shukra) and

> Krittika(Sun).

> Of these, Krittika(Sun) is only a part.If you take Simha rasi, it

> consists of Magha, Purva Phalguni and U.Phalguni.Of these U.

Phalguni

> is only a part.

>

> Since only 1st pada of Sun's Nakshatra in all the cases is present,

> it means Father puts only a part of his Atma tatwa in the Sperm. As

> he may have many other children. Bharani , P.Phalguni and P.shadha

> are complete Nakshatra meaning Mother is always complete.They are

> Matru Tatwa Nakshatras,Owned by Venus.

> Ashvini, Magha and Mula are Purusha Tatwa , signifying Adi Pita

> Shiva.The eternal Yogi.

>

> The triad of signs are ruled by Brahma, (Mesha), Narayan Vishnu

> (Simha) and Dhanush (Shiva) the eternal Purusha, Parama Pita ,Adi

> Guru, Eternal Hunter,and parama Yogi Sada Shiva.

>

> Mesha is Aimkaar

> Simha is Hrim kaar

> Dhanur is Klim kaar

>

> You remember a saying "A child is the father of man"?

> Look at your 5th house it denotes your son , your 9th is father.

Your

> grandfather is again 9th from 9th which is 5th.

>

> This is an eternal cycle of life.

> why Dhanus is Shiva's sign?

> Rishis have awarded ownership of Dhanur Rasi to Guru,

> but Dhanur Rasi depics A HUNTER which is not exactly

> how Guru would behave.

>

> As per my research , Ketus of Sani and Guru are in Dhanur rasi,

> complete Shiva Tatva is denoted by Ketu's domain as owner and

> occupiers of Dhanur Rasi.Dhanur rasi is represented by A Hunter.

> Dhanur Rasi has SAKE,and GUKE the southern nodes of Sani and Guru.

It

> also has Mula Nakshatra of Lunar southern node Ketu.

> Having three Ketus power is something very very powerful thing.

>

> Ketu is termed as Daruna, Tikshna,Hangman,Atirogi, Sinful planet,

> karaka of Pain and suffering,Tamasika, living in cremation ground,

> without any Rasa, a snake, he is very old of Vayu prakriti,Akash

> Tatwa ,Headless spirit.

>

> On the positive side, Ketu is Moksha karaka and Antargyani.

> So when Guru becomes the lord of Dhanur Rasi, he is responsible for

> imbibing the attributes of Ketus of Dhanu Rasi.

>

> Imagine how will it be when there are Two Permanent Ketus in Dhanur

> rasi and aspect of Sani's Rahu SARA and Guru's Rahu GURA on Dhanur

> Rasi ??.

>

>

> In my opinion, Ownership of Dhanur rasi should be awarded to Ketu

and

> not Guru or Brihaspati.

>

> Mesha is chara, , Leo is sthira and Dhanur rasi is Dwiswabhava

sign.

> Shiva is Ardha Narishwara.

> so Dhanus is shiva meaning shava(Dead body)+I(Shakti) kaar= shiva.

>

> Of the triad of signs I told as above, only Dhanur rasi is

> Dwiswabhava rasi. It is a sign which is neither chara or sthira.

>

> Shakti is sthira, shiva is chara but shiva becomes Ardha narishwara

> in Dhanur.

>

> This means, when pita and mata have union, (Dhanur rasi) Mesha is

> born (kartik, Deva senadhipati).

>

> THEREFORE 9TH HOUSE AND 9TH RASI DHANUS IS XTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR

> THIS REASON.

>

> Where does Mars come in these circumstances being lord of Celibacy?

>

>

> Tatvam-Asi

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Tatvam-Asi"Visti @ Denmark" <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

That was uncalled for.

nameisego [nameisego ] 15 June 2004 12:53To:

[vedic astrology] Re: Brahmacharya............ New perspective

 

Dear Sjt.VistiAs said before, if we want to operate out of concepts, it is one's

choice. Where in the name of God, did this being refer to Brahmacharya at the

age of 6?When we talk of Brahmacharya in this context (ADOPTING CELEBATE MODE

OF LIFE LIKE HANUMAN DID),we are talking of Mano Nigraha where Moon and Sun

Atma come into play.This being admires your devotion to your Guru.(Eventhough

you are

running Rahu dasa)Please continue swimming in circles, this being has no

objections.But same Guru has written that,"""None of us has a perfect

understanding of Jyotish and our tools are far from perfect. Some may be too

proud to accept this, but this is the truth. We are all trying to improve

constantly. I too have attempted many puzzles before, some successfully and

some with failure and know the limitations very well. Let us show respect for

someone for trying and improve collectively, rather than criticizing

someone.".............. UNQUOTEHaving blinkers while reading this being's

posting is no concern . It is just that someone denies existence of evrything

other than what he was told to look at.Tatvam-Asi--- In

vedic astrology, "Visti @ Denmark" <visti@s...> wrote:> |Hare

Räma Kåñëa|> > Dear Hamsa,> > Correction to your mail; when you are 6 Celibacy

is not a matter of

choice.> > Its in this stage of the Brahmacarya Varnashrama that the Mother

desires you> to worship her in, hence a requirement for Devi Sadhana is

celibacy – going> back to childhood and being a baby in the mothers lap.> > The

rest of the mail is your research, and in respect I will not touch that.>

However I must say that I was taught quite differently.> > Best

wishes,> Visti Larsen> <visti@s...> visti > _____ > >

nameisego [nameisego] > 15 June 2004 10:47> To:

vedic astrology> [vedic astrology]

Brahmacharya............ New perspective> > > > Hello

Friends,> > Being celibate is a matter of choice. It has to do with MANAS and >

PRAGNA.> > Mind is represented by Moon, "Chandrama Manaso Jatah" .> Mind is

equated to a MONKEY (Shall I say Hanuman ?).> Hanuman represents control over

Mind resulting into being JITENDRIYA.> > Unless Pragna is sthira and Manas is

controlled, Brahmacharya is > impossible.> True Brahamacharya is depicted by

SHIVA , It is Shiva who burnt

> Kamadeva and not Hanuman. > > Shivatatva in a human being makes one a

Brahmachari.> Ketu (As per Nodes Theory of this being)represents Shiva who

gives > Moksha.> Let me quote from the undersigned's paper on Astrology and

Modern > Science with Periodic Table example..> > "KETU AS LORD OF 9TH ZERO

GROUP.(Of periodic Table)> > All inert gases like Helium, Neon, Xenon Radon etc

are found in this > group. Ketu lords over this group. All the Vrittis , when

subsided, > lead to peace and Moksha. As all the outermost shells of these >

elements have satisfied orbits , the electrons are not available to > react.

Hence they are inert elements. They light up infancy colours > only when energy

in form of electricity passes through. It is the > form I call as SHAVA. Meaning

Dead Body. Without Shakti it is Shava. > Once Shakti passes thro' it, It becomes

SHIVA.> > In celebacy, stress is more on subduing Vrittis by

Manonigraha.> Dhanur Rasi represents true Shiva Tatva .> > > Please read the

following of undersigned's article.> > MESHA-SIMHA-DHANUR RASIS> > TRIANGLE OF

ETERNAL LIFE> > > I would like to bring to you, importance of Signs Mesha,

Simha and > Dhanur.> If Mesha is the jathaka, then Dhanur Rasi is the father.

> Nakshatras in Dhanur rasi are, Moola, belonging to Ketu, Purvashadha > of

Shukra and U.Shadha of Surya.If you think the significance of > this, it means,

Father puts Atma Tatwa(Sun) in His sperms(Shukra) and > thereby reduces his own

life (ketu) ..Ketu is smashana, ash, end > moksha there is a beginning in the

end.> > If you take Triad of Mesha, Simha and Dhanur rasis, you will find >

that each of the above rasis has Nakshatras belonging to Ketu, Surya

> and Shukra. Mesha contains, Ashvini(Ketu), Bharani (Shukra) and >

Krittika(Sun).> Of these, Krittika(Sun) is only a part.If you take Simha rasi,

it > consists of Magha, Purva Phalguni and U.Phalguni.Of these U. Phalguni > is

only a part.> > Since only 1st pada of Sun's Nakshatra in all the cases is

present, > it means Father puts only a part of his Atma tatwa in the Sperm. As

> he may have many other children. Bharani , P.Phalguni and P.shadha > are

complete

Nakshatra meaning Mother is always complete.They are > Matru Tatwa

Nakshatras,Owned by Venus.> Ashvini, Magha and Mula are Purusha Tatwa ,

signifying Adi Pita > Shiva.The eternal Yogi.> > The triad of signs are ruled

by Brahma, (Mesha), Narayan Vishnu> (Simha) and Dhanush (Shiva) the eternal

Purusha, Parama Pita ,Adi > Guru, Eternal Hunter,and parama Yogi Sada Shiva.> >

Mesha is Aimkaar> Simha is Hrim kaar> Dhanur is Klim kaar

New">> > You remember a saying "A child is the father of man"?> Look at your 5th

house it denotes your son , your 9th is father. Your > grandfather is again 9th

from 9th which is 5th.> > This is an eternal cycle of life.> why Dhanus is

Shiva's sign?> Rishis have awarded ownership of Dhanur Rasi to Guru, > but

Dhanur Rasi depics A HUNTER which is not exactly > how Guru would behave.> > As

per my research , Ketus of

Sani and Guru are in Dhanur rasi, > complete Shiva Tatva is denoted by Ketu's

domain as owner and > occupiers of Dhanur Rasi.Dhanur rasi is represented by A

Hunter.> Dhanur Rasi has SAKE,and GUKE the southern nodes of Sani and Guru. It>

also has Mula Nakshatra of Lunar southern node Ketu.> Having three Ketus power

is something very very powerful thing.> > Ketu is termed as Daruna,

Tikshna,Hangman,Atirogi, Sinful planet,> karaka of Pain and suffering,Tamasika,

living in cremation ground,> without any Rasa, a snake,

he is very old of Vayu prakriti,Akash> Tatwa ,Headless spirit.> > On the

positive side, Ketu is Moksha karaka and Antargyani.> So when Guru becomes the

lord of Dhanur Rasi, he is responsible for> imbibing the attributes of Ketus of

Dhanu Rasi.> > Imagine how will it be when there are Two Permanent Ketus in

Dhanur> rasi and aspect of Sani's Rahu SARA and Guru's Rahu GURA on Dhanur>

Rasi ??.> > > In my opinion,

Ownership of Dhanur rasi should be awarded to Ketu and > not Guru or

Brihaspati.> > Mesha is chara, , Leo is sthira and Dhanur rasi is Dwiswabhava

sign. > Shiva is Ardha Narishwara.> so Dhanus is shiva meaning shava(Dead

body)+I(Shakti) kaar= shiva.> > Of the triad of signs I told as above, only

Dhanur rasi is > Dwiswabhava rasi. It is a sign which is neither chara or

sthira.> > Shakti is sthira, shiva is chara but shiva

becomes Ardha narishwara > in Dhanur.> > This means, when pita and mata have

union, (Dhanur rasi) Mesha is > born (kartik, Deva senadhipati).> > THEREFORE

9TH HOUSE AND 9TH RASI DHANUS IS XTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR > THIS REASON.> > Where

does Mars come in these circumstances being lord of Celibacy?> > > Tatvam-Asi>

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