Confusion regarding Malefics placed in Malefic houses???

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Dear Mukund,

Weak malefic is more malefic, where strong malefic is capable of giving

far less malefic effects. This of course has to be applied based on the

placement and functional nature of planets. For example in pravrajya

yoga weak combust planets, with strong Sun give pravrajya denoted by

Sun, whereas strong Malefics similarly placed make a person devoted to

such holy men. So the effects, whether malefic or benefic would depend

on one's point of view of looking at an event.

In the example you have quoted rahu occupying Mars's house will give

results of Mars too. Therefore in 6th he would probably give you victory

over enemies. This is because the nodes give results of house lord,

planets associating them and planets in 7th from where they are placed.

In addition they give results of Saturn in case of rahu and Mars in

Ketu's case if placed as a single planet in a rasi.

Chandrashekhar.

 

monmuk111 wrote:

 

> Dear Gentlepeople:

>

> I've always wondered whether a weak (in shadbala/vishmopak bala)

> malefic planet looses it malefic qualities or becomes MORE malefic?

>

> Also, does a strong malefic, i.e. a really strong Rahu, Ketu, Saturn

> or Mars give good/benefic results by the virtue of being strong or

> will it be MORE malefic because of being strong.

>

> Also, most leading authorities and thinkers of vedic astrology have

> established that if a malefic planet is placed in a malefic house,

> i.e. 3,6,11, then it looses its ability to give malefic results and

> instead gives benefic results.

>

> Now, my question is as to the aspect of a malefic planet on another

> malefic planet--will the aspect of Mars on Rahu make the effects of

> Rahu really really bad or will it destroy Rahu and good effects will

> be felt in Rahu mahadasa.

>

> I was disucssing this with Sanjay (Rath) and Sanjay says that Mars is

> the bitter enemy of Rahu. Mars represents Chamunda, i.e. Shakti and

> if Mars has its 8th house aspect on Rahu, it will destroy Rahu (evil)

> with the ferocity of Chamunda Mata (mother).

>

> Now, what Sanjay say makes real good sense to me. However, in my

> chart Rahu is placed in Aries in the 6th house from Lagna (9th from

> Moon)and Mars (lagna lord) is aspecting Rahu from the 11th house from

> Lagna. (June 14, 1967, Bombay, 5.29 pm).

>

> Now, per Rath's dictum this Mars will destroy Rahu with its 8th house

> (astakshari) aspect. However, there is one more dictum in classics

> which says that a planet aspecting its own rashi makes the rashi

> stronger.

>

> In my chart, Mars is aspecting Aries his own rashi so per the dictum

> it will make Aries stronger; however, I'm confused as to wheter it

> will make Rahu stronger as well or will Rath's dictum still be true

> and Mars will destroy Rahu despite being placed in Mar's rashi Aries.

>

> I'd apprecite if the Gurus and learned members throw some light on

> this situation. Thanks.

>

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Dear Chandrasekhar:

 

Thanks for your notes. I'm specifically interested in knowing how

would Rahu in 6th house behave/react to the aspect of Mars from the

11th house. AND, how would the 6th house (Aries) behave/react to the

aspect of Mars, i.e. will it be strengthed or weakened and what

would "strengthened" or "weakened" mean?

 

I've been reading for months and months trying to decipher/understand

the above noted situation, but am getting contradictory information

which is confusing me even more.

 

For example, Some books/authors say that Mars weakens the house it

aspects so if 6th house is aspected, enemies will be weakend and

therefore will be destroyed--which is a good thing for me. At the

same time some books/authors say that if a planet aspects its OWN

sign, it strengthens the sign--does this mean that I'll have strong

enemies who'll hurt me?

 

SO my big cofusion is this--what would happen to 6th house (Aries)

aspected by Mars from the 11th house AND what would happen to Rahu

placed in this 6th house (Aries) due to Mars's aspect.

 

I'm been trying to decipher this as my Rahu mahadasa is beginning

from April 2005 and am trying to understand how would it turn out.

(June 14, 1967; Bombay; 5.29 pm).

 

I'm hoping you or Ramdas Guru or other learned Gurus would clear my

confusion. Thanks.

 

Mukund

 

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Mukund,

> Weak malefic is more malefic, where strong malefic is capable of

giving

> far less malefic effects. This of course has to be applied based on

the

> placement and functional nature of planets. For example in

pravrajya

> yoga weak combust planets, with strong Sun give pravrajya denoted

by

> Sun, whereas strong Malefics similarly placed make a person devoted

to

> such holy men. So the effects, whether malefic or benefic would

depend

> on one's point of view of looking at an event.

> In the example you have quoted rahu occupying Mars's house will

give

> results of Mars too. Therefore in 6th he would probably give you

victory

> over enemies. This is because the nodes give results of house lord,

> planets associating them and planets in 7th from where they are

placed.

> In addition they give results of Saturn in case of rahu and Mars in

> Ketu's case if placed as a single planet in a rasi.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> monmuk111 wrote:

>

> > Dear Gentlepeople:

> >

> > I've always wondered whether a weak (in shadbala/vishmopak bala)

> > malefic planet looses it malefic qualities or becomes MORE

malefic?

> >

> > Also, does a strong malefic, i.e. a really strong Rahu, Ketu,

Saturn

> > or Mars give good/benefic results by the virtue of being strong or

> > will it be MORE malefic because of being strong.

> >

> > Also, most leading authorities and thinkers of vedic astrology

have

> > established that if a malefic planet is placed in a malefic house,

> > i.e. 3,6,11, then it looses its ability to give malefic results

and

> > instead gives benefic results.

> >

> > Now, my question is as to the aspect of a malefic planet on

another

> > malefic planet--will the aspect of Mars on Rahu make the effects

of

> > Rahu really really bad or will it destroy Rahu and good effects

will

> > be felt in Rahu mahadasa.

> >

> > I was disucssing this with Sanjay (Rath) and Sanjay says that

Mars is

> > the bitter enemy of Rahu. Mars represents Chamunda, i.e. Shakti

and

> > if Mars has its 8th house aspect on Rahu, it will destroy Rahu

(evil)

> > with the ferocity of Chamunda Mata (mother).

> >

> > Now, what Sanjay say makes real good sense to me. However, in my

> > chart Rahu is placed in Aries in the 6th house from Lagna (9th

from

> > Moon)and Mars (lagna lord) is aspecting Rahu from the 11th house

from

> > Lagna. (June 14, 1967, Bombay, 5.29 pm).

> >

> > Now, per Rath's dictum this Mars will destroy Rahu with its 8th

house

> > (astakshari) aspect. However, there is one more dictum in classics

> > which says that a planet aspecting its own rashi makes the rashi

> > stronger.

> >

> > In my chart, Mars is aspecting Aries his own rashi so per the

dictum

> > it will make Aries stronger; however, I'm confused as to wheter it

> > will make Rahu stronger as well or will Rath's dictum still be

true

> > and Mars will destroy Rahu despite being placed in Mar's rashi

Aries.

> >

> > I'd apprecite if the Gurus and learned members throw some light on

> > this situation. Thanks.

> >

> > Mukund

> >

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dear monumuk111,

a planet aspecting its own house will strengthen the

concerned house so as to do good to the native. how can it strenghten

the enemies?

ajoy

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:

> Dear Chandrasekhar:

>

> Thanks for your notes. I'm specifically interested in knowing how

> would Rahu in 6th house behave/react to the aspect of Mars from the

> 11th house. AND, how would the 6th house (Aries) behave/react to

the

> aspect of Mars, i.e. will it be strengthed or weakened and what

> would "strengthened" or "weakened" mean?

>

> I've been reading for months and months trying to

decipher/understand

> the above noted situation, but am getting contradictory information

> which is confusing me even more.

>

> For example, Some books/authors say that Mars weakens the house it

> aspects so if 6th house is aspected, enemies will be weakend and

> therefore will be destroyed--which is a good thing for me. At the

> same time some books/authors say that if a planet aspects its OWN

> sign, it strengthens the sign--does this mean that I'll have strong

> enemies who'll hurt me?

>

> SO my big cofusion is this--what would happen to 6th house (Aries)

> aspected by Mars from the 11th house AND what would happen to Rahu

> placed in this 6th house (Aries) due to Mars's aspect.

>

> I'm been trying to decipher this as my Rahu mahadasa is beginning

> from April 2005 and am trying to understand how would it turn out.

> (June 14, 1967; Bombay; 5.29 pm).

>

> I'm hoping you or Ramdas Guru or other learned Gurus would clear my

> confusion. Thanks.

>

> Mukund

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

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> wrote:

> > Dear Mukund,

> > Weak malefic is more malefic, where strong malefic is capable of

> giving

> > far less malefic effects. This of course has to be applied based

on

> the

> > placement and functional nature of planets. For example in

> pravrajya

> > yoga weak combust planets, with strong Sun give pravrajya denoted

> by

> > Sun, whereas strong Malefics similarly placed make a person

devoted

> to

> > such holy men. So the effects, whether malefic or benefic would

> depend

> > on one's point of view of looking at an event.

> > In the example you have quoted rahu occupying Mars's house will

> give

> > results of Mars too. Therefore in 6th he would probably give you

> victory

> > over enemies. This is because the nodes give results of house

lord,

> > planets associating them and planets in 7th from where they are

> placed.

> > In addition they give results of Saturn in case of rahu and Mars

in

> > Ketu's case if placed as a single planet in a rasi.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > monmuk111 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Gentlepeople:

> > >

> > > I've always wondered whether a weak (in shadbala/vishmopak bala)

> > > malefic planet looses it malefic qualities or becomes MORE

> malefic?

> > >

> > > Also, does a strong malefic, i.e. a really strong Rahu, Ketu,

> Saturn

> > > or Mars give good/benefic results by the virtue of being strong

or

> > > will it be MORE malefic because of being strong.

> > >

> > > Also, most leading authorities and thinkers of vedic astrology

> have

> > > established that if a malefic planet is placed in a malefic

house,

> > > i.e. 3,6,11, then it looses its ability to give malefic results

> and

> > > instead gives benefic results.

> > >

> > > Now, my question is as to the aspect of a malefic planet on

> another

> > > malefic planet--will the aspect of Mars on Rahu make the

effects

> of

> > > Rahu really really bad or will it destroy Rahu and good effects

> will

> > > be felt in Rahu mahadasa.

> > >

> > > I was disucssing this with Sanjay (Rath) and Sanjay says that

> Mars is

> > > the bitter enemy of Rahu. Mars represents Chamunda, i.e. Shakti

> and

> > > if Mars has its 8th house aspect on Rahu, it will destroy Rahu

> (evil)

> > > with the ferocity of Chamunda Mata (mother).

> > >

> > > Now, what Sanjay say makes real good sense to me. However, in my

> > > chart Rahu is placed in Aries in the 6th house from Lagna (9th

> from

> > > Moon)and Mars (lagna lord) is aspecting Rahu from the 11th

house

> from

> > > Lagna. (June 14, 1967, Bombay, 5.29 pm).

> > >

> > > Now, per Rath's dictum this Mars will destroy Rahu with its 8th

> house

> > > (astakshari) aspect. However, there is one more dictum in

classics

> > > which says that a planet aspecting its own rashi makes the rashi

> > > stronger.

> > >

> > > In my chart, Mars is aspecting Aries his own rashi so per the

> dictum

> > > it will make Aries stronger; however, I'm confused as to wheter

it

> > > will make Rahu stronger as well or will Rath's dictum still be

> true

> > > and Mars will destroy Rahu despite being placed in Mar's rashi

> Aries.

> > >

> > > I'd apprecite if the Gurus and learned members throw some light

on

> > > this situation. Thanks.

> > >

> > > Mukund

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Dear Mukund,

Mars being Lagna lord and 8th lord would no doubt give troubles from

enemies or in service, generally speaking. These could even be

brothers/cousins/coworkers in work environment. But 6th bhava being

strong and positing Rahu, you will vanquish them. Rahu alone acts like

Saturn, its Antardasha in its own Mahadasha should be good, especially

for service if you are in one. You might also have to travel to distant

lands, during this period. Generally first half of the Mahadasha per se

would be a bit problematic, depending on Antardashas involved and second

half remarkably good. The reason is Saturn is lord of the 3rd and 4th.

Hope this helps.

Chandrashekhar.

 

monmuk111 wrote:

 

> Dear Chandrasekhar:

>

> Thanks for your notes. I'm specifically interested in knowing how

> would Rahu in 6th house behave/react to the aspect of Mars from the

> 11th house. AND, how would the 6th house (Aries) behave/react to the

> aspect of Mars, i.e. will it be strengthed or weakened and what

> would "strengthened" or "weakened" mean?

>

> I've been reading for months and months trying to decipher/understand

> the above noted situation, but am getting contradictory information

> which is confusing me even more.

>

> For example, Some books/authors say that Mars weakens the house it

> aspects so if 6th house is aspected, enemies will be weakend and

> therefore will be destroyed--which is a good thing for me. At the

> same time some books/authors say that if a planet aspects its OWN

> sign, it strengthens the sign--does this mean that I'll have strong

> enemies who'll hurt me?

>

> SO my big cofusion is this--what would happen to 6th house (Aries)

> aspected by Mars from the 11th house AND what would happen to Rahu

> placed in this 6th house (Aries) due to Mars's aspect.

>

> I'm been trying to decipher this as my Rahu mahadasa is beginning

> from April 2005 and am trying to understand how would it turn out.

> (June 14, 1967; Bombay; 5.29 pm).

>

> I'm hoping you or Ramdas Guru or other learned Gurus would clear my

> confusion. Thanks.

>

> Mukund

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

> wrote:

> > Dear Mukund,

> > Weak malefic is more malefic, where strong malefic is capable of

> giving

> > far less malefic effects. This of course has to be applied based on

> the

> > placement and functional nature of planets. For example in

> pravrajya

> > yoga weak combust planets, with strong Sun give pravrajya denoted

> by

> > Sun, whereas strong Malefics similarly placed make a person devoted

> to

> > such holy men. So the effects, whether malefic or benefic would

> depend

> > on one's point of view of looking at an event.

> > In the example you have quoted rahu occupying Mars's house will

> give

> > results of Mars too. Therefore in 6th he would probably give you

> victory

> > over enemies. This is because the nodes give results of house lord,

> > planets associating them and planets in 7th from where they are

> placed.

> > In addition they give results of Saturn in case of rahu and Mars in

> > Ketu's case if placed as a single planet in a rasi.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > monmuk111 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Gentlepeople:

> > >

> > > I've always wondered whether a weak (in shadbala/vishmopak bala)

> > > malefic planet looses it malefic qualities or becomes MORE

> malefic?

> > >

> > > Also, does a strong malefic, i.e. a really strong Rahu, Ketu,

> Saturn

> > > or Mars give good/benefic results by the virtue of being strong or

> > > will it be MORE malefic because of being strong.

> > >

> > > Also, most leading authorities and thinkers of vedic astrology

> have

> > > established that if a malefic planet is placed in a malefic house,

> > > i.e. 3,6,11, then it looses its ability to give malefic results

> and

> > > instead gives benefic results.

> > >

> > > Now, my question is as to the aspect of a malefic planet on

> another

> > > malefic planet--will the aspect of Mars on Rahu make the effects

> of

> > > Rahu really really bad or will it destroy Rahu and good effects

> will

> > > be felt in Rahu mahadasa.

> > >

> > > I was disucssing this with Sanjay (Rath) and Sanjay says that

> Mars is

> > > the bitter enemy of Rahu. Mars represents Chamunda, i.e. Shakti

> and

> > > if Mars has its 8th house aspect on Rahu, it will destroy Rahu

> (evil)

> > > with the ferocity of Chamunda Mata (mother).

> > >

> > > Now, what Sanjay say makes real good sense to me. However, in my

> > > chart Rahu is placed in Aries in the 6th house from Lagna (9th

> from

> > > Moon)and Mars (lagna lord) is aspecting Rahu from the 11th house

> from

> > > Lagna. (June 14, 1967, Bombay, 5.29 pm).

> > >

> > > Now, per Rath's dictum this Mars will destroy Rahu with its 8th

> house

> > > (astakshari) aspect. However, there is one more dictum in classics

> > > which says that a planet aspecting its own rashi makes the rashi

> > > stronger.

> > >

> > > In my chart, Mars is aspecting Aries his own rashi so per the

> dictum

> > > it will make Aries stronger; however, I'm confused as to wheter it

> > > will make Rahu stronger as well or will Rath's dictum still be

> true

> > > and Mars will destroy Rahu despite being placed in Mar's rashi

> Aries.

> > >

> > > I'd apprecite if the Gurus and learned members throw some light on

> > > this situation. Thanks.

> > >

> > > Mukund

> > >

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