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||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

 

Dear and Respected Paarthiji,

 

I'm not willing to hurt any one here!! Neither I want to insult or attack on Gurus or any one!!

I'm just giving my information as it may or may not be useful to others!! I have

forgoten that this list is for SJC discussion forum! But someone says this is

open discussion forum and any one can put his views openly to help the others!!

In this if I adress to Gurus it 'll be better otherwise lastly Gurus may refuse

whatever I'm putting to list so it'll be better to stop at the start!! That's

all!!

Pls find my reply below:--

 

"V.Partha sarathy"

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Om Namo Bhagvate RamachandrayaDear Patwardhan VinayWhat are pitaras?

 

Pitru Devta which is placed it on Thread when you get it abhimantra for getting

a knowledge from Vedas in Upanayana and for life time!! If I'm wrong Gurus may

rectify me!!

I have some millions of lines criss crossing each other in my hand,so i dont

know about what you are suggesting.

 

Sorry I'm unable to explain with more depth!!Though i have been giving remedies.

mantras. etc to people of allhues and races, i personally dont do much about

rahu and saturnshrapa, though i did some mantras for some time. Now my mantras

aremore to do with knowledge and enlightenment, rather than allievatingthe

suffering caused due to Brahamana Shapa, pitru Shapa, Naga Doshaetc, suffering

is the easiest way to get rid of karma, puttingointment only postpones the

suffering but does not eradicate itcompletely. With Rahu-jupiter in leo navamsa

till June 8th this year,i guess we shall be discussing snakes and their

kingdoms. First itwas attack on gurus, and now this snake business.

 

I don't want to attack any one but some people blame me for not sharing the

knowledge This a good answer for them!!Paarthaji, You are Guru over here and

giving mantras and doing mantras for what purpose? To realise the truth is

mantra neccessary?

I have already written in my previous mails " Na mantro Na Tirtham " I think

I've already replied you !! And sorry for such reply but you blame for the

attack!! Is this attack or the truth seeking?A temple priest told me that i

killed king cobra and his wife, andthus i have suffered due to the same. My eye

problems, my mother'sexpiry and host of problems are due to the same. Someone

suggestedthat some maternal grandparents, and paternal grandparents

didsomething, or died because of which i am suffering. Though we do getthe

genetic and environmental defects from the grandparents, i dontcompletely agree

that all the karma is due to them. SOme karma may beattatched as a baggage,

which can be eradicated through penance.

 

I think temple priest are the ones who preserved our traditions!! Or say ancient texts also!!

They will tell you what they got from tradition!! So traditions are not always correct?

I personally dont believe in Naga Dosha as a result of snake killing,i have

undertaken past life regression, and in none of the 200 livesthat i had seen, i

have not killed even a single snake.In all the curses, we see that benefics are

afflicted by either rahu,or saturn and mars. When it is rahu-it is shock to

that person, whenit is saturn-it is sadness, and when it is mars-it is kopa or

anger.So my jupiter is affected by Rahu and saturn, thus as i saw in a

pastlife, i had severed the head of my guru who cursed me for 1000 lives.

 

Many thanks for valuable information!! When we call Shapa whether it is a result

out as drudha karma , Adrudha Karma,

Drudhaarudha Karma? How we can confirm it from chart? Kala Sarpa dosha is a

misnomer, Kala Is time, Sarpa is a Bandha or arope tying the person. So due to

deep unfulfilled desires a person isborn with KSY. A person with Sarpa dosha

which is so common(Rahu ketuin kendras and konas), unless also afflicting good

planets likejupiter, venus and moon is not that bad. This is such a

commonoccurence, after all we are all born to fulfill the past desires

only.Scaring people with Naga dosha, this dosha and that dosha should

beavoided, i always tell the metaphysical and metaphorical meaningsbehind these

doshas, rather than telling puranic stories.

 

Very true!! Desire --Action--Memory is the cycle. Which every one wants break!!

 

In all what I have understood is "As you saw you will Reap!!" Then what is a

use of astrology? Just to fortell the events?

Or why an astrologer prescribed for mantras !! Or rather why they have made by

Sages? And if I'm not wrong sarpa suktam, sarpa mantras are there in vedas!

See here I don't want to insult or anything to you but asking these questions very genuinely!!

"Baaladapi Subhashitam Grahyam"

Still if you feel hard I'll request you to forget me!!

best wishesparthapartvinu.tripod.comOm Tat Sat

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Dear Vinay

 

Please dont take offense, i meant the Rahu-Jupiter transit in a

lighter way. I was not pointing you, but a few days back, some one

had attacked our gurus, and i was explaining the role of rahu in it.

Now we are discussing rahu related things(Snakes) and hence told that

we shall be discussing it for some more time. I never pointed a

finger at you, you are a sincere student, why shall i point a finger

at you, if i have been misunderstood, then i apologise.

 

Yes there are sarpa mantras, suktas etc in our puranas, but what i

would like to point out is that not all rahu related cases in charts

point out snakes, but rather the shock of a particular person.

 

Read Jaimini sutras, where the Great guru has pointed out certain

combinations for making livelihood through snakes, making poisonous

drugs etc, this has to be seen from navamsa.

 

Badhaka, Sarpa Badha is a specific case, you can get information from

past articles on badhaka by esteemed guru Pt.Rath. There are very

specific ways at looking at problems from snakes, and not all rahu

cases are through snakes, i guess i am repeating the same old

statement. Look at Rahu with mars in a fixed rasi, especially the

sarpa drekkana, the evil drekkanas etc. Whenever we see Rahu in

kendra, we say naga dosha, but what i am saying it need not be

related to a snake!?

You should read carefully the various articles on the role of AK, the

planets in 8th house in rashi chart, the agantuka Drishta, the evil

eye of Badhaka etc. badhaka is a dangerous candidate especially with

6th lord or in 6th, and more so if with rahu/saturn/mars.

best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, "patwardhanvinay"

<patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote:

> ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

>

> Dear and Respected Paarthiji,

>

> I'm not willing to hurt any one here!! Neither I want to insult or

attack on Gurus or any one!!

> I'm just giving my information as it may or may not be useful to

others!! I have forgoten that this list is for SJC discussion forum!

But someone says this is open discussion forum and any one can put

his views openly to help the others!! In this if I adress to Gurus

it 'll be better otherwise lastly Gurus may refuse whatever I'm

putting to list so it'll be better to stop at the start!! That's all!!

> Pls find my reply below:--

>

> "V.Partha sarathy"

<vedic astrology/post?

postID=SPUSbhTeOhI64d0IMLLyHi-dIJM2dWetQ50c1l86oRePQK4-

rIUIHKrS7IogxU7GsT38n16Do6GsSJdSD-o>

> Sat May 22, 2004 4:29 am

> when snakes come in dreams-vinay and list

>

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagvate Ramachandraya

>

> Dear Patwardhan Vinay

>

> What are pitaras?

>

> Pitru Devta which is placed it on Thread when you get it

abhimantra for getting a knowledge from Vedas in Upanayana and for

life time!! If I'm wrong Gurus may rectify me!!

>

> I have some millions of lines criss crossing each other in my

hand,

> so i dont know about what you are suggesting.

>

> Sorry I'm unable to explain with more depth!!

>

> Though i have been giving remedies. mantras. etc to people of

all

> hues and races, i personally dont do much about rahu and

saturn

> shrapa, though i did some mantras for some time. Now my

mantras are

> more to do with knowledge and enlightenment, rather than

allievating

> the suffering caused due to Brahamana Shapa, pitru Shapa,

Naga Dosha

> etc, suffering is the easiest way to get rid of karma, putting

> ointment only postpones the suffering but does not eradicate

it

> completely. With Rahu-jupiter in leo navamsa till June 8th

this year,

> i guess we shall be discussing snakes and their kingdoms.

First it

> was attack on gurus, and now this snake business.

>

> I don't want to attack any one but some people blame me for

not sharing the knowledge This a good answer for them!!

> Paarthaji, You are Guru over here and giving mantras and

doing mantras for what purpose? To realise the truth is mantra

neccessary?

> I have already written in my previous mails " Na mantro Na

Tirtham " I think I've already replied you !! And sorry for such

reply but you blame for the attack!! Is this attack or the truth

seeking?

> A temple priest told me that i killed king cobra and his

wife, and

> thus i have suffered due to the same. My eye problems, my

mother's

> expiry and host of problems are due to the same. Someone

suggested

> that some maternal grandparents, and paternal grandparents did

> something, or died because of which i am suffering. Though we

do get

> the genetic and environmental defects from the grandparents,

i dont

> completely agree that all the karma is due to them. SOme

karma may be

> attatched as a baggage, which can be eradicated through

penance.

>

> I think temple priest are the ones who preserved our

traditions!! Or say ancient texts also!!

> They will tell you what they got from tradition!! So

traditions are not always correct?

>

>

> I personally dont believe in Naga Dosha as a result of snake

killing,

> i have undertaken past life regression, and in none of the

200 lives

> that i had seen, i have not killed even a single snake.

>

> In all the curses, we see that benefics are afflicted by

either rahu,

> or saturn and mars. When it is rahu-it is shock to that

person, when

> it is saturn-it is sadness, and when it is mars-it is kopa or

anger.

> So my jupiter is affected by Rahu and saturn, thus as i saw

in a past

> life, i had severed the head of my guru who cursed me for

1000 lives.

>

> Many thanks for valuable information!! When we call Shapa

whether it is a result out as drudha karma , Adrudha Karma,

> Drudhaarudha Karma? How we can confirm it from chart?

>

> Kala Sarpa dosha is a misnomer, Kala Is time, Sarpa is a

Bandha or a

> rope tying the person. So due to deep unfulfilled desires a

person is

> born with KSY. A person with Sarpa dosha which is so common

(Rahu ketu

> in kendras and konas), unless also afflicting good planets

like

> jupiter, venus and moon is not that bad. This is such a common

> occurence, after all we are all born to fulfill the past

desires only.

> Scaring people with Naga dosha, this dosha and that dosha

should be

> avoided, i always tell the metaphysical and metaphorical

meanings

> behind these doshas, rather than telling puranic stories.

>

> Very true!! Desire --Action--Memory is the cycle. Which every

one wants break!!

>

> In all what I have understood is "As you saw you will

Reap!!" Then what is a use of astrology? Just to fortell the events?

> Or why an astrologer prescribed for mantras !! Or rather why

they have made by Sages? And if I'm not wrong sarpa suktam, sarpa

mantras are there in vedas!

> See here I don't want to insult or anything to you but asking

these questions very genuinely!!

> "Baaladapi Subhashitam Grahyam"

> Still if you feel hard I'll request you to forget me!!

> best wishes

> partha

> partvinu.tripod.com

> Om Tat Sat