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PVR seems to be a liar and a jealous man.

 

vedic astrology, vidyut bhatt

<vidyut_bhatt> wrote:

> Dear Members , and Sri Narasimha ji,

> I would like to call it a day in this group.

> I may not be missed by anyone but I would surely miss being here.

> I had to take this decision in the interest of all.

>

> If my postings have hurt anyone, I am sorry .

> Rgds

> Hemant Trivedi/VB

>

> vidyut_bhatt <vidyut_bhatt> wrote:

>

>

> Namaste,

>

> Dear Narasimha ji,

> How do you explain many postings that I made which did not come up

on

> board?

> For example, today morning, after you put an appeal if anyone has

> birth details of Sonia Gandhi, I put in my reply which never came

up

> on board.

> I take opportunity to post it here as under,

> "

> "hkrtrivedi" <hkrtrivedi>

> Sat May 15, 2004 11:24 am

> Nehru-Gandhi Family 4th innings Starts Now

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello Friends,

>

> Smt.Sonia Gandhi's birth details were requested on VA by Sri

> PVN Rao .I posted the following details immediately but I think it

was

> moderation checked and could not pass through.

> Hence I am posting the same in Tat-Sat group to start a discussion.

> Hope all members who are all students like me will participate.

>

> Her Birth details are as follows.

>

> SONIA GANDHI

> Born: December 9th 1946

> Place : Turin Italy

> Time : 21.30 Hrs

>

> She is born with Cancer ascendent with retro Sani .

> My first immediate reaction is, she is going to be in the Driver's

> seat when Sani is in Kataka and especially when it is Vakra.

> Whether she will drive herself or if she will choose to be a back

> seat driver having the puppet strings in her control , remains to be

> seen.

> Her Budha dasa, Kuja Bhukti and Guru antara willsee the beginning of

> Nehru-Gandhi legacy to prevail for next 22 years

> Time will tell the whole story .

> Rgds

>

> HT

>

> If you would care to note the time at which it was posted , you

would

> know that I am telling a fact.In fact I discussed this with a

couple

> of friends in US and Japan.

>

> Even Sanjay Rathji had made a similar complaint two days back.

> Please do not feel bad but there is something wrong some where .May

> be might be having some problems.

> How can I have Malice for you? Or the group?

>

> Sorry Mr.Narasimha ji, you are on wrong track about this.

> God has better jobs than knowing why Hemant Trivedi's posts are not

> sometimes reaching the board.

>

> In spite of all these, my regards for you has not diminished a bit

as

> what you are doing is absolutely unselfish.

> May Jupiter's light continue shining for us.

> Rgds

> HT/VB

>

> RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH:

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > Namaste,

> >

> > > Personally speaking , I am not much encouraged on VA group and

> > many

> > > of my postings are being censored but that might be due to

> various

> > > reasons which I would not go into.

> >

> > This malicious allegation is total nonsense. There is no

censoring

> > of Vidyut Bhat alias Hemat Trivedi on this list. In fact, the

only

> > people whose posts are moderated are new members.

> >

> > New members are automatically put on the moderation list. So,

when

> > somebody sends their first email, it does not make it to the list

> > automatically. I read the mail, ensure that it is related to

> > astrology (and not some kind of non-astrological spam mail),

> approve

> > the message and also remove the member from the moderation list.

> All

> > subsequent mails from the same member come to the list directly.

> > Except this, there is no censoring.

> >

> > A couple of members were banned from the list altogether, as they

> > were engaging in blatant marketing and blasting Vedic astrology

to

> > promote their pet theories and many members complained. After

being

> > warned, they persisted with their approach and they were

completely

> > banned.

> >

> > Except these, there is no censoring of any kind here.

> >

> > In any case, Vidyut Bhat is not being censored in any way and he

> was

> > never censored (except when he joined for the first time).

> >

> > God knows why he wants to give the impression that I am censoring

> > him.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> > List founder & admin

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Friends,

 

Let us not be hasty in judging people. There seems to be some problem somewhere

with respect to mails not reaching the list.

 

I CAN TELL YOU ALL ONE THING, PVR CAN NEVER BE A LIAR OR A JELOUS MAN. I know

him very well. He has and is doing a yomen service to Vedic Astrology. All the

students of Astrology should be indebted to him and I am sure genarations in

the future will benifit from his study and writtings on astrology. He is a

brilliant man and a very spiritual person, and has dedicated his spare time for

the study of astrology with the intention of doing his bit (which I am sure is

going to be a wopping lot) in bringing Vedic Astrology to its past glory and

showing a path for the future generations for a better understanding of the

same.

 

At worst he can be, that too very rarely, be a little quick and terse in his

responses but is a gentle soul selflessly serving the cause of Vedic Astrology.

I have no doubt in my mind that he will continue to do his service for the cause

mentioned above irrespective of any adverse remarks from any quarter. Please,

let us show some respect for the man who has and is doing so much of service to

the cause of spreading Vedic Astrology for all our benefit. Taking advantage of

his selfless efforts, be it using his software or learning from his generous

teachings on this and other lists, we should not hurt him with such hasty and

untrue remarks.

 

Hope you will see the truth in what I have written and give due respect to the

gentleman who has only service to offer with out any expectations or gain from

astrology.

 

Thanks for your patience in reading this.

 

Regards,

Ravi

PVR seems to be a liar and a jealous man. --- In

vedic astrology, vidyut bhatt <vidyut_bhatt> wrote:> Dear

Members , and Sri Narasimha ji,> I would like to call it a day in this group.>

I may not be missed by anyone but I would surely miss being here.> I had to

take this decision in the interest of all.> > If my postings have hurt anyone,

I am sorry .> Rgds> Hemant Trivedi/VB> > vidyut_bhatt <vidyut_bhatt>

wrote:> > > Namaste,> > Dear Narasimha ji,> How do you explain many postings

that I made which did not come up on > board?> For example, today morning,

after you put an appeal if anyone has > birth details of Sonia Gandhi, I put in

my reply which never came up > on board.> I take opportunity to post it here as

under,

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Now I must protest to this! This is completely uncalled for! Sanjayji had

told me some days back that watch out when Guru turns direct, for he will

then be totally under Rahu's pressure. As long as he is retrograde, he is

outside Rahu's clutches. I think PVR had explained very clearly, that all

first messages to the VA was moderated to ensure that it was not a spam or a

porno promotional, as we had quite a bit of problems from them. Obviously

none of you read his mails properly. Both you and Hemant Trivedi are

over-reacting and assuming things that are not there.

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

illijenny [illijenny]

Sunday, May 16, 2004 12:26 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: Bidding Farewell

 

PVR seems to be a liar and a jealous man.

 

vedic astrology, vidyut bhatt <vidyut_bhatt>

wrote:

> Dear Members , and Sri Narasimha ji,

> I would like to call it a day in this group.

> I may not be missed by anyone but I would surely miss being here.

> I had to take this decision in the interest of all.

>

> If my postings have hurt anyone, I am sorry .

> Rgds

> Hemant Trivedi/VB

>

> vidyut_bhatt <vidyut_bhatt> wrote:

>

>

> Namaste,

>

> Dear Narasimha ji,

> How do you explain many postings that I made which did not come up

on

> board?

> For example, today morning, after you put an appeal if anyone has

> birth details of Sonia Gandhi, I put in my reply which never came

up

> on board.

> I take opportunity to post it here as under, "

> "hkrtrivedi" <hkrtrivedi>

> Sat May 15, 2004 11:24 am

> Nehru-Gandhi Family 4th innings Starts Now

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello Friends,

>

> Smt.Sonia Gandhi's birth details were requested on VA by Sri

> PVN Rao .I posted the following details immediately but I think it

was

> moderation checked and could not pass through.

> Hence I am posting the same in Tat-Sat group to start a discussion.

> Hope all members who are all students like me will participate.

>

> Her Birth details are as follows.

>

> SONIA GANDHI

> Born: December 9th 1946

> Place : Turin Italy

> Time : 21.30 Hrs

>

> She is born with Cancer ascendent with retro Sani .

> My first immediate reaction is, she is going to be in the Driver's

> seat when Sani is in Kataka and especially when it is Vakra.

> Whether she will drive herself or if she will choose to be a back

> seat driver having the puppet strings in her control , remains to be

> seen.

> Her Budha dasa, Kuja Bhukti and Guru antara willsee the beginning of

> Nehru-Gandhi legacy to prevail for next 22 years

> Time will tell the whole story .

> Rgds

>

> HT

>

> If you would care to note the time at which it was posted , you

would

> know that I am telling a fact.In fact I discussed this with a

couple

> of friends in US and Japan.

>

> Even Sanjay Rathji had made a similar complaint two days back.

> Please do not feel bad but there is something wrong some where .May

> be might be having some problems.

> How can I have Malice for you? Or the group?

>

> Sorry Mr.Narasimha ji, you are on wrong track about this.

> God has better jobs than knowing why Hemant Trivedi's posts are not

> sometimes reaching the board.

>

> In spite of all these, my regards for you has not diminished a bit

as

> what you are doing is absolutely unselfish.

> May Jupiter's light continue shining for us.

> Rgds

> HT/VB

>

> RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH:

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > Namaste,

> >

> > > Personally speaking , I am not much encouraged on VA group and

> > many

> > > of my postings are being censored but that might be due to

> various

> > > reasons which I would not go into.

> >

> > This malicious allegation is total nonsense. There is no

censoring

> > of Vidyut Bhat alias Hemat Trivedi on this list. In fact, the

only

> > people whose posts are moderated are new members.

> >

> > New members are automatically put on the moderation list. So,

when

> > somebody sends their first email, it does not make it to the list

> > automatically. I read the mail, ensure that it is related to

> > astrology (and not some kind of non-astrological spam mail),

> approve

> > the message and also remove the member from the moderation list.

> All

> > subsequent mails from the same member come to the list directly.

> > Except this, there is no censoring.

> >

> > A couple of members were banned from the list altogether, as they

> > were engaging in blatant marketing and blasting Vedic astrology

to

> > promote their pet theories and many members complained. After

being

> > warned, they persisted with their approach and they were

completely

> > banned.

> >

> > Except these, there is no censoring of any kind here.

> >

> > In any case, Vidyut Bhat is not being censored in any way and he

> was

> > never censored (except when he joined for the first time).

> >

> > God knows why he wants to give the impression that I am censoring

> > him.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> > List founder & admin

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

 

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

>

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Read my text properly. It says "PVR seems to be a liar and a jealous

man."

 

I don't know this man but I stated what is apparent.

 

Since I joined the group, I read every message from the beginning,

even the one where PVR welcomes V K Chowdhury. And then we have this

recent message where PVR criticizes V K Chowdhury. I have also seen

his post criticizing K N Rao. I wonder why he does not criticize

Sanjay Rath who failed miserably in predicting the recent elections.

 

Well Astrologers should be humble. PVR lacks this quality. He can

learn all the shastras but he will never become a true Astrologer. It

will be better that he gives up the job of moderator and hand it over

to a person like Chandrashekar and the ever enthusiastic Sunil John

or Ramdas Rao. I find him blunt every times he writes. May be

somebody should moderate him and tone down his emails.

 

I also did not like the article which was circulated after the Puri

Conference wherein Sanjay Rath declared that the BJP government will

last for 14 years. It looks like all of this is baloney and intent to

make money.

 

And then we have Sarbani defending these guys. Does she have any

justification? Just because someone started a group, does it mean he

has the right to chastise everyone who complains or justifies an

action?

 

Wake up guys and gals. Learn to be humble. Make some positive changes

to the group. Let a mature person take over.

 

Jen

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sarbani Sarkar"

<sarbani@s...> wrote:

> Now I must protest to this! This is completely uncalled for!

Sanjayji had

> told me some days back that watch out when Guru turns direct, for

he will

> then be totally under Rahu's pressure. As long as he is retrograde,

he is

> outside Rahu's clutches. I think PVR had explained very clearly,

that all

> first messages to the VA was moderated to ensure that it was not a

spam or a

> porno promotional, as we had quite a bit of problems from them.

Obviously

> none of you read his mails properly. Both you and Hemant Trivedi are

> over-reacting and assuming things that are not there.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Sarbani

>

>

> illijenny [illijenny]

> Sunday, May 16, 2004 12:26 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Bidding Farewell

>

> PVR seems to be a liar and a jealous man.

>

> vedic astrology, vidyut bhatt

<vidyut_bhatt>

> wrote:

> > Dear Members , and Sri Narasimha ji,

> > I would like to call it a day in this group.

> > I may not be missed by anyone but I would surely miss being here.

> > I had to take this decision in the interest of all.

> >

> > If my postings have hurt anyone, I am sorry .

> > Rgds

> > Hemant Trivedi/VB

> >

> > vidyut_bhatt <vidyut_bhatt> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Dear Narasimha ji,

> > How do you explain many postings that I made which did not come up

> on

> > board?

> > For example, today morning, after you put an appeal if anyone has

> > birth details of Sonia Gandhi, I put in my reply which never came

> up

> > on board.

> > I take opportunity to post it here as under, "

> > "hkrtrivedi" <hkrtrivedi>

> > Sat May 15, 2004 11:24 am

> > Nehru-Gandhi Family 4th innings Starts Now

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello Friends,

> >

> > Smt.Sonia Gandhi's birth details were requested on VA by Sri

> > PVN Rao .I posted the following details immediately but I think

it

> was

> > moderation checked and could not pass through.

> > Hence I am posting the same in Tat-Sat group to start a

discussion.

> > Hope all members who are all students like me will participate.

> >

> > Her Birth details are as follows.

> >

> > SONIA GANDHI

> > Born: December 9th 1946

> > Place : Turin Italy

> > Time : 21.30 Hrs

> >

> > She is born with Cancer ascendent with retro Sani .

> > My first immediate reaction is, she is going to be in the Driver's

> > seat when Sani is in Kataka and especially when it is Vakra.

> > Whether she will drive herself or if she will choose to be a back

> > seat driver having the puppet strings in her control , remains to

be

> > seen.

> > Her Budha dasa, Kuja Bhukti and Guru antara willsee the beginning

of

> > Nehru-Gandhi legacy to prevail for next 22 years

> > Time will tell the whole story .

> > Rgds

> >

> > HT

> >

> > If you would care to note the time at which it was posted , you

> would

> > know that I am telling a fact.In fact I discussed this with a

> couple

> > of friends in US and Japan.

> >

> > Even Sanjay Rathji had made a similar complaint two days back.

> > Please do not feel bad but there is something wrong some

where .May

> > be might be having some problems.

> > How can I have Malice for you? Or the group?

> >

> > Sorry Mr.Narasimha ji, you are on wrong track about this.

> > God has better jobs than knowing why Hemant Trivedi's posts are

not

> > sometimes reaching the board.

> >

> > In spite of all these, my regards for you has not diminished a

bit

> as

> > what you are doing is absolutely unselfish.

> > May Jupiter's light continue shining for us.

> > Rgds

> > HT/VB

> >

> > RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > > Personally speaking , I am not much encouraged on VA group

and

> > > many

> > > > of my postings are being censored but that might be due to

> > various

> > > > reasons which I would not go into.

> > >

> > > This malicious allegation is total nonsense. There is no

> censoring

> > > of Vidyut Bhat alias Hemat Trivedi on this list. In fact, the

> only

> > > people whose posts are moderated are new members.

> > >

> > > New members are automatically put on the moderation list. So,

> when

> > > somebody sends their first email, it does not make it to the

list

> > > automatically. I read the mail, ensure that it is related to

> > > astrology (and not some kind of non-astrological spam mail),

> > approve

> > > the message and also remove the member from the moderation

list.

> > All

> > > subsequent mails from the same member come to the list

directly.

> > > Except this, there is no censoring.

> > >

> > > A couple of members were banned from the list altogether, as

they

> > > were engaging in blatant marketing and blasting Vedic astrology

> to

> > > promote their pet theories and many members complained. After

> being

> > > warned, they persisted with their approach and they were

> completely

> > > banned.

> > >

> > > Except these, there is no censoring of any kind here.

> > >

> > > In any case, Vidyut Bhat is not being censored in any way and

he

> > was

> > > never censored (except when he joined for the first time).

> > >

> > > God knows why he wants to give the impression that I am

censoring

> > > him.

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > Narasimha

> > > List founder & admin

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Illijenny,

 

As an administrator of an organisation, one of whose senior members and

teachers happen to be PVR Narasimha Rao it is my duty and responsibility to

defend him against what appears to be trivial and silly accusations. As

explained by Narasimha, all first messages are moderated to ensure they are

not spams. Once VA was flooded with some vulgar porno promotional and all

members were duly agitated. Hence he started moderating first messages. As

pointed out by Chandrashekharji, recent mails of Sanjayji too did not get

through to VA, although he reposted several times. Hence it could have been

a problem. But it seems that Vidyut Bhatt and you are not interested

in the truth.

 

Secondly, as written in a recent mail by one of the members, that even Raman

had said that only 70% of his predictions were true. Most astrologers

including K. N. Rao admitted that they had all predicted that BJP will win.

So what if all failed? Is it not very natural? Do all astrologers predict

100 percent correctly? It is not humanly possible, specially in the case of

Raj Jyotish as Rao repeatedly points out that there are numerous charts

floating around per politician; perhaps none of them are correct. Narasimha

is open in his criticism towards everyone equally to the extent that some

people find him abrupt on the internet. Although it is none of your

business, all SJC members know how critical and open the relationship

between Sanjay Rath and Narasimha Rao is.

 

What is the 'intent of making money'? As administrative head of SJC-Asia I

strongly protest to such uninformed and loose allegations. Can you give us

some proof instead of making loose accusations? Sanjay Rath circulated his

media interviews regarding India's political future in the aftermath of the

2nd Annual Conference at Puri. He circulated all those media clippings in

his web sites. Subsequently he admitted that his predictions regarding the

BJP govt. was wrong although the ones regarding Orissa and Naveen Patnaik

was correct. What is so unusual about that? And where is the money making

involved in this?

 

I think some amount of maturity is called for here...or perhaps the

intentions are otherwise...

 

I happen to know Narasimha Rao personally. And I second Ravi Janak in saying

that he is one of the humblest persons I have ever met.

 

Please consider this conversation closed from my/SJC's side.

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar

President, Sri Jagannath Center-Asia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

illijenny [illijenny]

Sunday, May 16, 2004 4:50 PM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: Bidding Farewell

 

Read my text properly. It says "PVR seems to be a liar and a jealous man."

 

I don't know this man but I stated what is apparent.

 

Since I joined the group, I read every message from the beginning, even the

one where PVR welcomes V K Chowdhury. And then we have this recent message

where PVR criticizes V K Chowdhury. I have also seen his post criticizing K

N Rao. I wonder why he does not criticize Sanjay Rath who failed miserably

in predicting the recent elections.

 

Well Astrologers should be humble. PVR lacks this quality. He can learn all

the shastras but he will never become a true Astrologer. It will be better

that he gives up the job of moderator and hand it over to a person like

Chandrashekar and the ever enthusiastic Sunil John or Ramdas Rao. I find him

blunt every times he writes. May be somebody should moderate him and tone

down his emails.

 

I also did not like the article which was circulated after the Puri

Conference wherein Sanjay Rath declared that the BJP government will last

for 14 years. It looks like all of this is baloney and intent to make money.

 

 

And then we have Sarbani defending these guys. Does she have any

justification? Just because someone started a group, does it mean he has the

right to chastise everyone who complains or justifies an action?

 

Wake up guys and gals. Learn to be humble. Make some positive changes to the

group. Let a mature person take over.

 

Jen

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sarbani Sarkar"

<sarbani@s...> wrote:

> Now I must protest to this! This is completely uncalled for!

Sanjayji had

> told me some days back that watch out when Guru turns direct, for

he will

> then be totally under Rahu's pressure. As long as he is retrograde,

he is

> outside Rahu's clutches. I think PVR had explained very clearly,

that all

> first messages to the VA was moderated to ensure that it was not a

spam or a

> porno promotional, as we had quite a bit of problems from them.

Obviously

> none of you read his mails properly. Both you and Hemant Trivedi are

> over-reacting and assuming things that are not there.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Sarbani

>

>

> illijenny [illijenny]

> Sunday, May 16, 2004 12:26 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Bidding Farewell

>

> PVR seems to be a liar and a jealous man.

>

> vedic astrology, vidyut bhatt

<vidyut_bhatt>

> wrote:

> > Dear Members , and Sri Narasimha ji, I would like to call it a day

> > in this group.

> > I may not be missed by anyone but I would surely miss being here.

> > I had to take this decision in the interest of all.

> >

> > If my postings have hurt anyone, I am sorry .

> > Rgds

> > Hemant Trivedi/VB

> >

> > vidyut_bhatt <vidyut_bhatt> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Dear Narasimha ji,

> > How do you explain many postings that I made which did not come up

> on

> > board?

> > For example, today morning, after you put an appeal if anyone has

> > birth details of Sonia Gandhi, I put in my reply which never came

> up

> > on board.

> > I take opportunity to post it here as under, "

> > "hkrtrivedi" <hkrtrivedi>

> > Sat May 15, 2004 11:24 am

> > Nehru-Gandhi Family 4th innings Starts Now

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello Friends,

> >

> > Smt.Sonia Gandhi's birth details were requested on VA by Sri PVN Rao

> > .I posted the following details immediately but I think

it

> was

> > moderation checked and could not pass through.

> > Hence I am posting the same in Tat-Sat group to start a

discussion.

> > Hope all members who are all students like me will participate.

> >

> > Her Birth details are as follows.

> >

> > SONIA GANDHI

> > Born: December 9th 1946

> > Place : Turin Italy

> > Time : 21.30 Hrs

> >

> > She is born with Cancer ascendent with retro Sani .

> > My first immediate reaction is, she is going to be in the Driver's

> > seat when Sani is in Kataka and especially when it is Vakra.

> > Whether she will drive herself or if she will choose to be a back

> > seat driver having the puppet strings in her control , remains to

be

> > seen.

> > Her Budha dasa, Kuja Bhukti and Guru antara willsee the beginning

of

> > Nehru-Gandhi legacy to prevail for next 22 years Time will tell the

> > whole story .

> > Rgds

> >

> > HT

> >

> > If you would care to note the time at which it was posted , you

> would

> > know that I am telling a fact.In fact I discussed this with a

> couple

> > of friends in US and Japan.

> >

> > Even Sanjay Rathji had made a similar complaint two days back.

> > Please do not feel bad but there is something wrong some

where .May

> > be might be having some problems.

> > How can I have Malice for you? Or the group?

> >

> > Sorry Mr.Narasimha ji, you are on wrong track about this.

> > God has better jobs than knowing why Hemant Trivedi's posts are

not

> > sometimes reaching the board.

> >

> > In spite of all these, my regards for you has not diminished a

bit

> as

> > what you are doing is absolutely unselfish.

> > May Jupiter's light continue shining for us.

> > Rgds

> > HT/VB

> >

> > RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > > Personally speaking , I am not much encouraged on VA group

and

> > > many

> > > > of my postings are being censored but that might be due to

> > various

> > > > reasons which I would not go into.

> > >

> > > This malicious allegation is total nonsense. There is no

> censoring

> > > of Vidyut Bhat alias Hemat Trivedi on this list. In fact, the

> only

> > > people whose posts are moderated are new members.

> > >

> > > New members are automatically put on the moderation list. So,

> when

> > > somebody sends their first email, it does not make it to the

list

> > > automatically. I read the mail, ensure that it is related to

> > > astrology (and not some kind of non-astrological spam mail),

> > approve

> > > the message and also remove the member from the moderation

list.

> > All

> > > subsequent mails from the same member come to the list

directly.

> > > Except this, there is no censoring.

> > >

> > > A couple of members were banned from the list altogether, as

they

> > > were engaging in blatant marketing and blasting Vedic astrology

> to

> > > promote their pet theories and many members complained. After

> being

> > > warned, they persisted with their approach and they were

> completely

> > > banned.

> > >

> > > Except these, there is no censoring of any kind here.

> > >

> > > In any case, Vidyut Bhat is not being censored in any way and

he

> > was

> > > never censored (except when he joined for the first time).

> > >

> > > God knows why he wants to give the impression that I am

censoring

> > > him.

> > >

> > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > > Narasimha

> > > List founder & admin

> >

> >

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> >

> >

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Namaste Jen,

I think you must have not given a second thought and re-read your note before

posting here. Honestly, I did not like your thought as you have insulted

my/our Guru's hence this note to you.

As you have mentioned "Since I joined the group, I read every message from the

beginning...", which means you are in the group for at least few years (as I

have not been able to read all the messages for the past 1-1/2 years). So here

is my question, where did you got the knowledge, is it not from these Guru's and

now you are insulting them!

Do you think, the knowledge whatever you have acquired from these good souls

will be useful to you, I guess not. See that is the fundamental difference

between traditional learning and the current internet based learning: which is

like buying a book or reading the messages without a Guru's blessings or

critising and insulting the same Guru from where you have learned this devine

science.

The moment one does this, the knowledge is gone for good, because what I believe

is that the Shishya gets the knowlege with one's Guru's blessings only. When one

has lost the blessings of the Guru, where is the question of knowledge ?

That is why my grandfather use to say: "Teach the devine sciences to qualified /

good and selected people only" otherwise you know...

Lastly, I have not seen a single posting for the past 1-1/2 yeras in the list

not even an analysis or helping some one to understand the Jyotish, so what are

you talking about now ...

I would gently suggest you to give some predictions and analysis in the list and

see how you feel if some one critisizes to your wrong predictions and get

praise for the correct prediction. That is called real learning, unless you do

that, you do not understand this, so try soon...

So, think for a few minutes and say to yourself: what contribution you have made

to this Jyotish community before making such allegations to these people who are

spending their valuable time in teaching us. Remember every Astrologer has:

Accurate predictions and Failed predictions too, that is quite normal and the

learning grows from there.

Om Tat Sat

RegardsRaghunadha Rao

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Message 40762 "illijenny" <illijenny> Sun May 16, 2004 6:20

am Re: Bidding Farewell

Read my text properly. It says "PVR seems to be a liar and a jealousman."

I don't know this man but I stated what is apparent.

Since I joined the group, I read every message from the beginning,even the one

where PVR welcomes V K Chowdhury. And then we have thisrecent message where PVR

criticizes V K Chowdhury. I have also seenhis post criticizing K N Rao. I wonder

why he does not criticizeSanjay Rath who failed miserably in predicting the

recent elections.

Well Astrologers should be humble. PVR lacks this quality. He canlearn all the

shastras but he will never become a true Astrologer. Itwill be better that he

gives up the job of moderator and hand it overto a person like Chandrashekar

and the ever enthusiastic Sunil Johnor Ramdas Rao. I find him blunt every times

he writes. May besomebody should moderate him and tone down his emails.

I also did not like the article which was circulated after the PuriConference

wherein Sanjay Rath declared that the BJP government willlast for 14 years. It

looks like all of this is baloney and intent tomake money.

And then we have Sarbani defending these guys. Does she have anyjustification?

Just because someone started a group, does it mean hehas the right to chastise

everyone who complains or justifies anaction?

Wake up guys and gals. Learn to be humble. Make some positive changesto the

group. Let a mature person take over.

Jen

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Raghu,

U have said my thoughts I wanted to say the same but have been

holding my reins as I can be quite outspoken at times.

Thanks Raghu

 

Best

 

SJ

 

vedic astrology, Rao Nemani <raon1008>

wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Namaste Jen,

>

> I think you must have not given a second thought and re-read your

note before posting here. Honestly, I did not like your thought as

you have insulted my/our Guru's hence this note to you.

>

> As you have mentioned "Since I joined the group, I read every

message from the beginning...", which means you are in the group for

at least few years (as I have not been able to read all the messages

for the past 1-1/2 years). So here is my question, where did you got

the knowledge, is it not from these Guru's and now you are insulting

them!

>

> Do you think, the knowledge whatever you have acquired from these

good souls will be useful to you, I guess not. See that is the

fundamental difference between traditional learning and the current

internet based learning: which is like buying a book or reading the

messages without a Guru's blessings or critising and insulting the

same Guru from where you have learned this devine science.

>

> The moment one does this, the knowledge is gone for good, because

what I believe is that the Shishya gets the knowlege with one's

Guru's blessings only. When one has lost the blessings of the Guru,

where is the question of knowledge ?

>

> That is why my grandfather use to say: "Teach the devine sciences

to qualified / good and selected people only" otherwise you know...

>

> Lastly, I have not seen a single posting for the past 1-1/2 yeras

in the list not even an analysis or helping some one to understand

the Jyotish, so what are you talking about now ...

>

> I would gently suggest you to give some predictions and analysis in

the list and see how you feel if some one critisizes to your wrong

predictions and get praise for the correct prediction. That is

called real learning, unless you do that, you do not understand this,

so try soon...

>

> So, think for a few minutes and say to yourself: what contribution

you have made to this Jyotish community before making such

allegations to these people who are spending their valuable time in

teaching us. Remember every Astrologer has: Accurate predictions and

Failed predictions too, that is quite normal and the learning grows

from there.

>

> Om Tat Sat

>

> Regards

> Raghunadha Rao

>

> -------

>

> Message 40762

>

> "illijenny" <illijenny>

> Sun May 16, 2004 6:20 am

> Re: Bidding Farewell

>

>

> Read my text properly. It says "PVR seems to be a liar and a jealous

> man."

>

> I don't know this man but I stated what is apparent.

>

> Since I joined the group, I read every message from the beginning,

> even the one where PVR welcomes V K Chowdhury. And then we have this

> recent message where PVR criticizes V K Chowdhury. I have also seen

> his post criticizing K N Rao. I wonder why he does not criticize

> Sanjay Rath who failed miserably in predicting the recent elections.

>

> Well Astrologers should be humble. PVR lacks this quality. He can

> learn all the shastras but he will never become a true Astrologer.

It

> will be better that he gives up the job of moderator and hand it

over

> to a person like Chandrashekar and the ever enthusiastic Sunil John

> or Ramdas Rao. I find him blunt every times he writes. May be

> somebody should moderate him and tone down his emails.

>

> I also did not like the article which was circulated after the Puri

> Conference wherein Sanjay Rath declared that the BJP government will

> last for 14 years. It looks like all of this is baloney and intent

to

> make money.

>

> And then we have Sarbani defending these guys. Does she have any

> justification? Just because someone started a group, does it mean he

> has the right to chastise everyone who complains or justifies an

> action?

>

> Wake up guys and gals. Learn to be humble. Make some positive

changes

> to the group. Let a mature person take over.

>

> Jen

>

>

>

>

>

>

> SBC - Internet access at a great low price.

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