Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Dear Sunil, Unless one knows who leads the Government, it is indeed difficult to predict whether his Government will be stable or not. That too when one has correct birth data of the individual. At least this is my personal opinion. Of course if we want to hazard a guess and look at India's chart, there is a possibility of a short lived Government coming to power, which may last up to 5th of Sept. or so, perhaps not beyond July. However this is only a very rough assessment. The reason is Saturn's moving out of 2nd house from where it aspects the 8th house. Saturn gains strength as it approaches the last degrees of a rasi and that is the only basis of what has been said above. Chandrashekhar. Sunil John wrote: > *Dear PVRji, Ramadasji, Chandrashekharji and everyone,* > > * * > > *Assuming that BJP doesn’t come to power due to some further dramatic > events, whoever forms the new Govt * > > *1. *Will it be stable, > > *2. *Will it complete its term > > *3. *Will India make progress and what kind of, can diff fields of > progress be indicated by the Indian chart > > * * > > *With Jup and Sat changing signs in this year and that too almost > together, I was a bit jittery, some of the partners Cong has now, they > have changed their stance in the last 2 days re Sonia’s leadership as > the wind swept. * > > * * > > *LL* > > * * > > *Sunil John* > > * * > > * * > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > ------ > * Links* > > * > vedic astrology/ > * > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology?subject=Un> > * Terms of > Service <>. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sunil, I also agree with Chandrashekhar Sharma Ji and further I add that we have to wait for the new prime minister's Swearing-in Muhurta which gives all the good and bad etc.from the new Government. Another important thing I observed is the declaration of the election results on the last day of Solar Month ie when Surya was in Last quarter of Krittika ( this is considered as Nakshatra Sandhi ie.,Bharani -4th Pada and Krittika 1st pada )indicates that the new government also suffer a lot of hardhips, failure,fighting for power,struggles and hurdles in the formation of new Government etc. I hope this helps. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sunil,Unless one knows who leads the Government, it is indeed difficult to predict whether his Government will be stable or not. That too when one has correct birth data of the individual. At least this is my personal opinion.Of course if we want to hazard a guess and look at India's chart, there is a possibility of a short lived Government coming to power, which may last up to 5th of Sept. or so, perhaps not beyond July. However this is only a very rough assessment. The reason is Saturn's moving out of 2nd house from where it aspects the 8th house. Saturn gains strength as it approaches the last degrees of a rasi and that is the only basis of what has been said above.Chandrashekhar.Sunil John wrote:> *Dear PVRji, Ramadasji, Chandrashekharji and everyone,*>> * *>> *Assuming that BJP doesn’t come to power due to some further dramatic > events, whoever forms the new Govt *>> *1. *Will it be stable,>> *2. *Will it complete its term>> *3. *Will India make progress and what kind of, can diff fields of > progress be indicated by the Indian chart>> * *>> *With Jup and Sat changing signs in this year and that too almost > together, I was a bit jittery, some of the partners Cong has now, they > have changed their stance in the last 2 days re Sonia’s leadership as > the wind swept. *>> * *>> *LL*>> * *>> *Sunil John*>> * *>> * *>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......>> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>>> ------> * Links*>> * > vedic astrology/> * To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> > * Your use of is subject to the Terms of> Service .>> India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Dear Ramadasji & Chandrashekharji, To be honest I agree half heartedly to both ur points as of now, maybe due to my inexperience in astrology. I still feel that atleast from India's chart astrology must be able to see whether we would have a stable govt and if a new govt would complete its tenure. Ofcourse factors like swearing-in ceremony and charts of alliances is very imp. In todays practical political environment no coalition govt can ever be stable and it is always going to be a coalition govt. Chandrashekharji the fears that I had when i stated the movement of Jup and Sat - around Sept - those fears you have stated in ur letter, India needs a stable and mature govt. Also the prob is that Sat goes retro immediately as soon as it enters Cancer and then becomes direct in March if i am not wrong and this again u have somehow indicated in ur letter Some thing very interesting that u pointed out is re the Suns last quarter - personally me and another friend was going thro bad phase during that day I presume due to Suns last portion in Aries. Also, now Amar Singh has gone back on his words and not supporting the Congress due to some Congress leaders saying that his support is not required. So what u wrote at the end of ur letter is coming true in a way, time will tell and i hope this govt gets good support since the largest democracy needs to progress whichever govt comes in power. Hence i asked if u all can see some progress of India in the coming years from India's chart. I am wondering why Shri PVR is away from this discussion, mundane astrology is his fav and at these times his input is most wanted when the whole astrological fraternity is facing an attack. Although I agree that RR was right in his predictions, so was Anshumalee Sood and if i am not wrong the editor of Babaji, Mr Lachman Das Madan , I could be wrong in the last whether it was Mr Madan or Sumeet Chugh, but i remember it was either of them and the mag Babaji was involved - all this prior to the results. Mr Madan gives prime importance to Chalit Chakra and in bombay most of the astrologers do it great importance - that is as far as my limited understanding. I hope someone makes a note of the swearing in ceremony of whichever Govt comes to power and then senior members make some predictions. Incidentally someone posted the details of the swearing in ceremony of YSR and his birth details, sounds interesting. best wishes Sunil John Mumbai P.S: Prakash Kandpal, thanks for ur interesting post, worth studying vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Sunil, > I also agree with Chandrashekhar Sharma Ji and further I add that we have to wait for the new prime minister's Swearing-in Muhurta which gives all the good and bad etc.from the new Government. > Another important thing I observed is the declaration of the election results on the last day of Solar Month ie when Surya was in Last quarter of Krittika ( this is considered as Nakshatra Sandhi ie.,Bharani -4th Pada and Krittika 1st pada )indicates that the new government also suffer a lot of hardhips, failure,fighting for power,struggles and hurdles in the formation of new Government etc. > I hope this helps. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > > Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Sunil, > Unless one knows who leads the Government, it is indeed difficult to > predict whether his Government will be stable or not. That too when one > has correct birth data of the individual. At least this is my personal > opinion. > > Of course if we want to hazard a guess and look at India's chart, there > is a possibility of a short lived Government coming to power, which may > last up to 5th of Sept. or so, perhaps not beyond July. However this is > only a very rough assessment. The reason is Saturn's moving out of 2nd > house from where it aspects the 8th house. Saturn gains strength as it > approaches the last degrees of a rasi and that is the only basis of what > has been said above. > Chandrashekhar. > > Sunil John wrote: > > > *Dear PVRji, Ramadasji, Chandrashekharji and everyone,* > > > > * * > > > > *Assuming that BJP doesn't come to power due to some further dramatic > > events, whoever forms the new Govt * > > > > *1. *Will it be stable, > > > > *2. *Will it complete its term > > > > *3. *Will India make progress and what kind of, can diff fields of > > progress be indicated by the Indian chart > > > > * * > > > > *With Jup and Sat changing signs in this year and that too almost > > together, I was a bit jittery, some of the partners Cong has now, they > > have changed their stance in the last 2 days re Sonia's leadership as > > the wind swept. * > > > > * * > > > > *LL* > > > > * * > > > > *Sunil John* > > > > * * > > > > * * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Namaste Ramdasji & Chandrashekar Ji, I am still to learn mundane astrology, but I thought I can ask few questions: Ramdasji, you had mentioned that the results were declared in the Last day of the solar month and hence there will be difficulty in forming the Government. Also I guess you may be correct, but since I am having a doubt, I am asking the following question: Should it not be the muhurta when the members are sworn in which should determine the stability of the Govt. As it is aknown fact that there is no clear majority for any of the alliances, there definitely one can expect some obstacles in Govt. Formation. Chandrashekar Ji: You mentioned that Sa will be moving from 2nd (from where it aspects 8th house)to 3rd house. Also note that 3rd house is secondary house for Longitivity and Sa is moving into it. Should this not help considering your theory. I have a feeling this > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Sunil, > > I also agree with Chandrashekhar Sharma Ji and > further I add that > we have to wait for the new prime minister's > Swearing-in Muhurta > which gives all the good and bad etc.from the new > Government. > > Another important thing I observed is the > declaration of the > election results on the last day of Solar Month ie > when Surya was in > Last quarter of Krittika ( this is considered as > Nakshatra Sandhi > ie.,Bharani -4th Pada and Krittika 1st pada > )indicates that the new > government also suffer a lot of hardhips, > failure,fighting for > power,struggles and hurdles in the formation of new > Government etc. > > I hope this helps. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > > Unless one knows who leads the Government, it is > indeed difficult > to > > predict whether his Government will be stable or > not. That too when > one > > has correct birth data of the individual. At least > this is my > personal > > opinion. > > > > Of course if we want to hazard a guess and look at > India's chart, > there > > is a possibility of a short lived Government > coming to power, which > may > > last up to 5th of Sept. or so, perhaps not beyond > July. However > this is > > only a very rough assessment. The reason is > Saturn's moving out of > 2nd > > house from where it aspects the 8th house. Saturn > gains strength as > it > > approaches the last degrees of a rasi and that is > the only basis of > what > > has been said above. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > Sunil John wrote: > > > > > *Dear PVRji, Ramadasji, Chandrashekharji and > everyone,* > > > > > > * * > > > > > > *Assuming that BJP doesn't come to power due to > some further > dramatic > > > events, whoever forms the new Govt * > > > > > > *1. *Will it be stable, > > > > > > *2. *Will it complete its term > > > > > > *3. *Will India make progress and what kind of, > can diff fields > of > > > progress be indicated by the Indian chart > > > > > > * * > > > > > > *With Jup and Sat changing signs in this year > and that too almost > > > together, I was a bit jittery, some of the > partners Cong has now, > they > > > have changed their stance in the last 2 days re > Sonia's > leadership as > > > the wind swept. * > > > > > > * * > > > > > > *LL* > > > > > > * * > > > > > > *Sunil John* > > > > > > * * > > > > > > * * > === message truncated === SBC - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo./sbc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Lakshman Brahma Ji, I have already answered your question. I have already wrote in another mail that we have to go through Swearing - in Muhurta of Prime Minister. The above is another addition as per the Muhurta classics when a important decision or eventtakes place during the last day of Solar month and that also during the Nakshatra Sandhi of Bharani and Krittika,the results will be evil to the natives or the persons for which the events are connected. Now let us watch the game of Heaven in Earth. Now anybody has the Swearing - in Muhurta of Shri Reddy who became Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh ,please mail me. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma > wrote: Namaste Ramdasji & Chandrashekar Ji,I am still to learn mundane astrology, but I thought Ican ask few questions:Ramdasji, you had mentioned that the results weredeclared in the Last day of the solar month and hencethere will be difficulty in forming the Government.Also I guess you may be correct, but since I am havinga doubt, I am asking the following question: Should itnot be the muhurta when the members are sworn in whichshould determine the stability of the Govt. As it is aknown fact that there is no clear majorityfor any of the alliances, there definitely one canexpect some obstacles in Govt. Formation.Chandrashekar Ji:You mentioned that Sa will be moving from 2nd (fromwhere it aspects 8th house)to 3rd house. Also notethat 3rd house is secondary house for Longitivity andSa is moving into it. Should this not help consideringyour theory.I have a feeling this > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Sunil,> > I also agree with Chandrashekhar Sharma Ji and> further I add that > we have to wait for the new prime minister's> Swearing-in Muhurta > which gives all the good and bad etc.from the new> Government.> > Another important thing I observed is the> declaration of the > election results on the last day of Solar Month ie> when Surya was in > Last quarter of Krittika ( this is considered as> Nakshatra Sandhi > ie.,Bharani -4th Pada and Krittika 1st pada> )indicates that the new > government also suffer a lot of hardhips,> failure,fighting for > power,struggles and hurdles in the formation of new> Government etc.> > I hope this helps.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > Chandrashekhar wrote:> > Dear Sunil,> > Unless one knows who leads the Government, it is> indeed difficult > to > > predict whether his Government will be stable or> not. That too when > one > > has correct birth data of the individual. At least> this is my > personal > > opinion.> > > > Of course if we want to hazard a guess and look at> India's chart, > there > > is a possibility of a short lived Government> coming to power, which > may > > last up to 5th of Sept. or so, perhaps not beyond> July. However > this is > > only a very rough assessment. The reason is> Saturn's moving out of > 2nd > > house from where it aspects the 8th house. Saturn> gains strength as > it > > approaches the last degrees of a rasi and that is> the only basis of > what > > has been said above.> > Chandrashekhar.> > > > Sunil John wrote:> > > > > *Dear PVRji, Ramadasji, Chandrashekharji and> everyone,*> > >> > > * *> > >> > > *Assuming that BJP doesn't come to power due to> some further > dramatic > > > events, whoever forms the new Govt *> > >> > > *1. *Will it be stable,> > >> > > *2. *Will it complete its term> > >> > > *3. *Will India make progress and what kind of,> can diff fields > of > > > progress be indicated by the Indian chart> > >> > > * *> > >> > > *With Jup and Sat changing signs in this year> and that too almost > > > together, I was a bit jittery, some of the> partners Cong has now, > they > > > have changed their stance in the last 2 days re> Sonia's > leadership as > > > the wind swept. *> > >> > > * *> > >> > > *LL*> > >> > > * *> > >> > > *Sunil John*> > >> > > * *> > >> > > * *> === message truncated ===SBC - Internet access at a great low price.http://promo./sbc/------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Companion Toolbar.Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free!http://us.click./L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.8XolB/TM---~->Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/<*> To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology<*> Your use of is subject to: India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Dear Laxman Braha, Saturn usually casts its shadow about 3 months ahead of moving to a house. Now in 2nd when it is in last degrees and aspecting the 8th the effects like demise are likely. I have already stated that this only an educated rough assessment. By the way, till this moment the coalition has not come into existence. Let us watch and see what happens. Chandrashekhar. Lakshman Brahma wrote: >Namaste Ramdasji & Chandrashekar Ji, >I am still to learn mundane astrology, but I thought I >can ask few questions: >Ramdasji, you had mentioned that the results were >declared in the Last day of the solar month and hence >there will be difficulty in forming the Government. >Also I guess you may be correct, but since I am having >a doubt, I am asking the following question: Should it >not be the muhurta when the members are sworn in which >should determine the stability of the Govt. >As it is aknown fact that there is no clear majority >for any of the alliances, there definitely one can >expect some obstacles in Govt. Formation. >Chandrashekar Ji: >You mentioned that Sa will be moving from 2nd (from >where it aspects 8th house)to 3rd house. Also note >that 3rd house is secondary house for Longitivity and >Sa is moving into it. Should this not help considering >your theory. > >I have a feeling this > > >>>om namo näräyaëäya| >>>Dear Sunil, >>>I also agree with Chandrashekhar Sharma Ji and >>> >>> >>further I add that >>we have to wait for the new prime minister's >>Swearing-in Muhurta >>which gives all the good and bad etc.from the new >>Government. >> >> >>>Another important thing I observed is the >>> >>> >>declaration of the >>election results on the last day of Solar Month ie >>when Surya was in >>Last quarter of Krittika ( this is considered as >>Nakshatra Sandhi >>ie.,Bharani -4th Pada and Krittika 1st pada >>)indicates that the new >>government also suffer a lot of hardhips, >>failure,fighting for >>power,struggles and hurdles in the formation of new >>Government etc. >> >> >>>I hope this helps. >>>With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, >>>Ramadas Rao. >>> >>> >>>Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: >>>Dear Sunil, >>>Unless one knows who leads the Government, it is >>> >>> >>indeed difficult >>to >> >> >>>predict whether his Government will be stable or >>> >>> >>not. That too when >>one >> >> >>>has correct birth data of the individual. At least >>> >>> >>this is my >>personal >> >> >>>opinion. >>> >>>Of course if we want to hazard a guess and look at >>> >>> >>India's chart, >>there >> >> >>>is a possibility of a short lived Government >>> >>> >>coming to power, which >>may >> >> >>>last up to 5th of Sept. or so, perhaps not beyond >>> >>> >>July. However >>this is >> >> >>>only a very rough assessment. The reason is >>> >>> >>Saturn's moving out of >>2nd >> >> >>>house from where it aspects the 8th house. Saturn >>> >>> >>gains strength as >>it >> >> >>>approaches the last degrees of a rasi and that is >>> >>> >>the only basis of >>what >> >> >>>has been said above. >>>Chandrashekhar. >>> >>>Sunil John wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>*Dear PVRji, Ramadasji, Chandrashekharji and >>>> >>>> >>everyone,* >> >> >>>>* * >>>> >>>>*Assuming that BJP doesn't come to power due to >>>> >>>> >>some further >>dramatic >> >> >>>>events, whoever forms the new Govt * >>>> >>>>*1. *Will it be stable, >>>> >>>>*2. *Will it complete its term >>>> >>>>*3. *Will India make progress and what kind of, >>>> >>>> >>can diff fields >>of >> >> >>>>progress be indicated by the Indian chart >>>> >>>>* * >>>> >>>>*With Jup and Sat changing signs in this year >>>> >>>> >>and that too almost >> >> >>>>together, I was a bit jittery, some of the >>>> >>>> >>partners Cong has now, >>they >> >> >>>>have changed their stance in the last 2 days re >>>> >>>> >>Sonia's >>leadership as >> >> >>>>the wind swept. * >>>> >>>>* * >>>> >>>>*LL* >>>> >>>>* * >>>> >>>>*Sunil John* >>>> >>>>* * >>>> >>>>* * >>>> >>>> >=== message truncated === > > > > > > > >SBC - Internet access at a great low price. >http://promo./sbc/ > > > > > > > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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