Guest guest Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| I'm not expert in this sensitive point of ayanamsa & not tried on various ayanamsas but I'm giving some informatiom which I'm having with me. Based on that I'll ask senior members & Gurus to direct us. 1) The tropical & sidereal zodiacs coincide at a particular instant on a 23rd march 291A.D. So that we can consider as vernal equinox as the epoch of coinciding of two zodiacs. Correct? 2)Is Shri Lahiri's tables of sun are depend on Prof. New Combs values? 3)What is Bessel's fictitious year? Does it have any connection with the formula for Ayanamsa ? Lastly I'll like to give quotes:- " According to Shri Lahiri , there is a positive ayanamsa of 4'59.31" at our zero Ayanamsa epoch (4hr41min18sec)on 23rd March 291 A.D. (SAKA ERA 213)" I tink these questions will reveal many things!! Waiting for reply from all learned members & Gurus. Raghuvir Smaran!! Vinay Patwardhan Mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Dear Vinay, Hare Rama Krsna! >1) The tropical & sidereal zodiacs coincide at a particular instant on a >23rd march 291A.D. So that we can consider as vernal equinox as the epoch >of coinciding of two zodiacs. Correct? The point is to determine the exact zero point Aries, and in my opinion this is not exactly 180° opposite the star of Chitra (Spica), which would be quite impossible to measure since one side of the sky is always covered with Sun-light, the other not. In ancient Vedic times the reference point for determining zero point Aries was the star Zeta Piscii, and please calculate the difference from this star to the spring equinox point to determine the current ayanamsa. The value I have at the moment is 23°12'54". Perhaps other Gurus may verify this with their charts. Yours, Dhira Krsna dasa, Jyotishi http://www.radhadesh.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Wed, 19 May 2004 06:01:19 -0700 (PDT)sridhar k Re: [vedic astrology] Re:-Ayanamsa to Sushmitapatwardhanvinay CC: vedic-astrolgy There is no unamity on the year when the two zodiacs coincided. Prof Krishnamoorthy of KP system takes 285 ad as the year. I think Dr B.V.Raman takes it as 425 ad. I have experimented with the Laheri and KP ayanamsa. The change in the ayanamsa changes the Longitude of Planets. If we consider the Moon,s Longitude, then the start of the Vimsottari Dasa (balance od Dasa at birth) will change. This chnage can be upto 45 days, depending on the Dasa at birth. We know the dates of importaant events in our life: 1st Job,Marriage, Birth of 1st Child etc. Check which ayanamsa indictes these dates correctly( or nearly correct). Then you can decide which ayanmsa is more suited. In my experience I have found KP Aynamsa to be more reliable. I beleive Ramdasji also uses KP ayanmsa for timing events. patwardhanvinay <patwardhanvinay (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| I'm not expert in this sensitive point of ayanamsa & not tried on various ayanamsas but I'm giving some informatiom which I'm having with me. Based on that I'll ask senior members & Gurus to direct us. 1) The tropical & sidereal zodiacs coincide at a particular instant on a 23rd march 291A.D. So that we can consider as vernal equinox as the epoch of coinciding of two zodiacs. Correct? 2)Is Shri Lahiri's tables of sun are depend on Prof. New Combs values? 3)What is Bessel's fictitious year? Does it have any connection with the formula for Ayanamsa ? Lastly I'll like to give quotes:- " According to Shri Lahiri , there is a positive ayanamsa of 4'59.31" at our zero Ayanamsa epoch (4hr41min18sec)on 23rd March 291 A.D. (SAKA ERA 213)" I tink these questions will reveal many things!! Waiting for reply from all learned members & Gurus. Raghuvir Smaran!! Vinay Patwardhan MumbaiArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... alternate email is raichuranant (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com SBC - Internet access at a great low price.alternate email is raichuranant (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com SBC - Internet access at a great low price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Namasthe! I would like to make a small clarification in respect to the below email. Dr. Raman used 397 A.D. Om Tat Sat, Raman Suprajarama font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">sridhar k [kopparsa ] Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:34 PM vedic astrology Fwd: Re: [vedic astrology] Re:-Ayanamsa to Sushmita 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> sridhar k <kopparsa > wrote: Wed, 19 May 2004 06:01:19 -0700 (PDT) sridhar k Re: [vedic astrology] Re:-Ayanamsa to Sushmita patwardhanvinay CC: vedic-astrolgy 12.0pt">There is no unamity on the year when the two zodiacs coincided. Prof Krishnamoorthy of KP system takes 285 ad as the year. I think Dr B.V.Raman takes it as 425 ad. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">I have experimented with the Laheri and KP ayanamsa. The change in the ayanamsa changes the Longitude of Planets. If we consider the Moon,s Longitude, then the start of the Vimsottari Dasa (balance od Dasa at birth) will change. This chnage can be upto 45 days, depending on the Dasa at birth. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">We know the dates of importaant events in our life: 1st Job,Marriage, Birth of 1st Child etc. Check which ayanamsa indictes these dates correctly( or nearly correct). 12.0pt">Then you can decide which ayanmsa is more suited. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">In my experience I have found KP Aynamsa to be more reliable. I beleive Ramdasji also uses KP ayanmsa for timing events. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> patwardhanvinay <patwardhanvinay (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> 12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:red">||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| 12.0pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">I'm not expert in this sensitive point of ayanamsa & not tried on various ayanamsas but I'm giving some informatiom which I'm having with me. Based on that I'll ask senior members & Gurus to direct us. 10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">1) The tropical & sidereal zodiacs coincide at a particular instant on a 23rd march 291A.D. So that we can consider as vernal equinox as the epoch of coinciding of two zodiacs. Correct? 10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">2)Is Shri Lahiri's tables of sun are depend on Prof. New Combs values? 10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">3)What is Bessel's fictitious year? Does it have any connection with the formula for Ayanamsa ? 12.0pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">Lastly I'll like to give quotes:- 10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">" According to Shri Lahiri , there is a positive ayanamsa of 4'59.31" at our zero Ayanamsa epoch (4hr41min18sec)on 23rd March 291 A.D. (SAKA ERA 213)" 12.0pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">I tink these questions will reveal many things!! 12.0pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">Waiting for reply from all learned members & Gurus. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red">Raghuvir Smaran!! 12.0pt"> 10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">Vinay Patwardhan 10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue">Mumbai Archives: vedic astrology To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || 12.0pt"> alternate email is raichuranant (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com font-family:Arial"> SBC - Internet access at a great low price. 12.0pt"> alternate email is raichuranant (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com font-family:Arial"> SBC - Internet access at a great low price. Archives: vedic astrology To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Dear Sridhar, >We know the dates of importaant events in our life: 1st Job,Marriage, >Birth of 1st Child etc. Check which ayanamsa indictes these dates >correctly( or nearly correct). >Then you can decide which ayanmsa is more suited. In my experience researching with different ayanamsa's, to count on Vimsottari dasha to explain known events is not so reliable. When the facts are known, our mind will somehow or other find a reasoning and justification for the events to have happened. I know, I went astray many times being 100% convinced of a certain Vimsottari dasha giving the effect, but then found something else, like e.g. chara karaka changes or so, using the ayanamsa, which then proved it to be incorrect. So we have to look at many more factors, like placement of planets in their respective naksatras, their chara karaka qualties, sastiamsa positions etc to come to a clear picture of the correct ayanamsa. Yours, Dhira Krsna dasa, Jyotishi http://www.radhadesh.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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