Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Dear Guru Partha, I had emailed to you asking for which house/sign to see for kidneys, there has been no reply, in the meanwhile I did prashna and came to the conclusion that 9th house and 12th house is where the problem is. Pls guide if this kind of thinking is correct to see why the person has come to us or rather where is the real problem in the chart. Since u had already giving clear hint that Black Magic might be the case, I searched and found this Abhicara (Black magic) Indications of black magic are: 1. Bädhakeça association with 6th house or lord, or 2. 6th lord in 1st, 7th, or 12th house as Mars occupies as aspects Lagna. 3. Ketu is 1st, 4th, or 10th as Mars aspect Lagna. Position of Gulika indicates this stuff used for black magic. Mritunjaya Japa, Ganapati or Tila Homa indicates the relief. The basic motive for black magic is driving the enemy away from the locality, kill him or cause Lunacy[15]. Anything can be done against him like giving him food (polluted)/burying material inside his house etc. In the concerned chart: 1) For Scorpio lagna 9th lord is the badhak and badhkesh is the Moon in the 12th house in this chart. By aspect it satisfies the first criteria of bahdhesh association with the 6th house . If we take Rasi drishti then 6th lord has double connection. Can we take rasi drishtis in such conditions or is this stretching the rule. 2) 6th lord in the 7th house and Mars is aspecting the lagna satisfying the second condition. 3) The 3rd condition of Ketu in the 1st, 4th, or 10th is not satisfied, so can we still infer considering only the first two conditions that this is a case of black magic. Dasa: If black magic was done , when could it have been done Sat/Sat or Jup/Rahu, although logically speaking Jup period such things shouldn't happen Gulika is in sign of Jup in the 2nd house/ along with Jup, Mandi and UL. ???? who did the BM and what was used. Pls guide Sunil John P.S: Thanks PVR for ur compassionate mail. Thanks Ramesh. Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Dear Sunil Yes your thinking is correct. I think that when we see aspects we have to consider graha drishti, as it is a motive and desire, to destroy the person. I had told Mr.Rao to perform Mrityunjaya mantra and also Rudrabhishekam. I am waiting for other senior Gurus to help in this case. best wishes partha vedic astrology, Sunil John <jjnet2000_in> wrote: > Dear Guru Partha, > > I had emailed to you asking for which house/sign to > see for kidneys, there has been no reply, in the > meanwhile I did prashna and came to the conclusion > that 9th house and 12th house is where the problem is. > Pls guide if this kind of thinking is correct to see > why the person has come to us or rather where is the > real problem in the chart. > > Since u had already giving clear hint that Black Magic > might be the case, I searched and found this > > Abhicara (Black magic) > > Indications of black magic are: > > 1. Bädhakeça association with 6th house or lord, or > 2. 6th lord in 1st, 7th, or 12th house as Mars > occupies as aspects Lagna. > 3. Ketu is 1st, 4th, or 10th as Mars aspect Lagna. > > Position of Gulika indicates this stuff used for black > magic. Mritunjaya Japa, Ganapati or Tila Homa > indicates the relief. The basic motive for black magic > is driving the enemy away from the locality, kill him > or cause Lunacy[15]. Anything can be done against him > like giving him food (polluted)/burying material > inside his house etc. > > In the concerned chart: > > 1) For Scorpio lagna 9th lord is the badhak and > badhkesh is the Moon in the 12th house in this chart. > By aspect it satisfies the first criteria of bahdhesh > association with the 6th house . If we take Rasi > drishti then 6th lord has double connection. Can we > take rasi drishtis in such conditions or is this > stretching the rule. > > 2) 6th lord in the 7th house and Mars is aspecting the > lagna satisfying the second condition. > > 3) The 3rd condition of Ketu in the 1st, 4th, or 10th > is not satisfied, so can we still infer considering > only the first two conditions that this is a case of > black magic. > > Dasa: > If black magic was done , when could it have been done > Sat/Sat or Jup/Rahu, although logically speaking Jup > period such things shouldn't happen > > Gulika is in sign of Jup in the 2nd house/ along with > Jup, Mandi and UL. ???? who did the BM and what was > used. > > Pls guide > > Sunil John > > P.S: Thanks PVR for ur compassionate mail. Thanks > Ramesh. > > Tax Center - File online by April 15th > http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Dear Sunil Yes your thinking is correct. I think that when we see aspects we have to consider graha drishti, as it is a motive and desire, to destroy the person. I had told Mr.Rao to perform Mrityunjaya mantra and also Rudrabhishekam. I am waiting for other senior Gurus to help in this case. best wishes partha vedic astrology, Sunil John <jjnet2000_in> wrote: > Dear Guru Partha, > > I had emailed to you asking for which house/sign to > see for kidneys, there has been no reply, in the > meanwhile I did prashna and came to the conclusion > that 9th house and 12th house is where the problem is. > Pls guide if this kind of thinking is correct to see > why the person has come to us or rather where is the > real problem in the chart. > > Since u had already giving clear hint that Black Magic > might be the case, I searched and found this > > Abhicara (Black magic) > > Indications of black magic are: > > 1. Bädhakeça association with 6th house or lord, or > 2. 6th lord in 1st, 7th, or 12th house as Mars > occupies as aspects Lagna. > 3. Ketu is 1st, 4th, or 10th as Mars aspect Lagna. > > Position of Gulika indicates this stuff used for black > magic. Mritunjaya Japa, Ganapati or Tila Homa > indicates the relief. The basic motive for black magic > is driving the enemy away from the locality, kill him > or cause Lunacy[15]. Anything can be done against him > like giving him food (polluted)/burying material > inside his house etc. > > In the concerned chart: > > 1) For Scorpio lagna 9th lord is the badhak and > badhkesh is the Moon in the 12th house in this chart. > By aspect it satisfies the first criteria of bahdhesh > association with the 6th house . If we take Rasi > drishti then 6th lord has double connection. Can we > take rasi drishtis in such conditions or is this > stretching the rule. > > 2) 6th lord in the 7th house and Mars is aspecting the > lagna satisfying the second condition. > > 3) The 3rd condition of Ketu in the 1st, 4th, or 10th > is not satisfied, so can we still infer considering > only the first two conditions that this is a case of > black magic. > > Dasa: > If black magic was done , when could it have been done > Sat/Sat or Jup/Rahu, although logically speaking Jup > period such things shouldn't happen > > Gulika is in sign of Jup in the 2nd house/ along with > Jup, Mandi and UL. ???? who did the BM and what was > used. > > Pls guide > > Sunil John > > P.S: Thanks PVR for ur compassionate mail. Thanks > Ramesh. > > Tax Center - File online by April 15th > http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Dear Partha, Thanks for ur mail. If I can request you to kindly consider the whole post of mine where I have raised other queries also as to the period when it was done and the motive and who has done it. If u feel its a personal sensitive case of one of the members of the list, then I can understand u might not wish to discuss it. Coming to graha drishti et all. Pls look at my query there in where I have used Rasi drishti also and hence I was asking if one should use Rasi drishti also, since I have used it to connect the badhekhesh to the 6th lord. SO once again repeating, should we take Rasi drishti too to fulfill the criteria of black magic. Is 7th house involved (referring to the prashna, private mail) Thanks once again, best wishes Sunil vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote: > Dear Sunil > > Yes your thinking is correct. I think that when we see aspects we > have to consider graha drishti, as it is a motive and desire, to > destroy the person. > > I had told Mr.Rao to perform Mrityunjaya mantra and also > Rudrabhishekam. I am waiting for other senior Gurus to help in this > case. > best wishes > partha > > > vedic astrology, Sunil John > <jjnet2000_in> wrote: > > Dear Guru Partha, > > > > I had emailed to you asking for which house/sign to > > see for kidneys, there has been no reply, in the > > meanwhile I did prashna and came to the conclusion > > that 9th house and 12th house is where the problem is. > > Pls guide if this kind of thinking is correct to see > > why the person has come to us or rather where is the > > real problem in the chart. > > > > Since u had already giving clear hint that Black Magic > > might be the case, I searched and found this > > > > Abhicara (Black magic) > > > > Indications of black magic are: > > > > 1. Bädhakeça association with 6th house or lord, or > > 2. 6th lord in 1st, 7th, or 12th house as Mars > > occupies as aspects Lagna. > > 3. Ketu is 1st, 4th, or 10th as Mars aspect Lagna. > > > > Position of Gulika indicates this stuff used for black > > magic. Mritunjaya Japa, Ganapati or Tila Homa > > indicates the relief. The basic motive for black magic > > is driving the enemy away from the locality, kill him > > or cause Lunacy[15]. Anything can be done against him > > like giving him food (polluted)/burying material > > inside his house etc. > > > > In the concerned chart: > > > > 1) For Scorpio lagna 9th lord is the badhak and > > badhkesh is the Moon in the 12th house in this chart. > > By aspect it satisfies the first criteria of bahdhesh > > association with the 6th house . If we take Rasi > > drishti then 6th lord has double connection. Can we > > take rasi drishtis in such conditions or is this > > stretching the rule. > > > > 2) 6th lord in the 7th house and Mars is aspecting the > > lagna satisfying the second condition. > > > > 3) The 3rd condition of Ketu in the 1st, 4th, or 10th > > is not satisfied, so can we still infer considering > > only the first two conditions that this is a case of > > black magic. > > > > Dasa: > > If black magic was done , when could it have been done > > Sat/Sat or Jup/Rahu, although logically speaking Jup > > period such things shouldn't happen > > > > Gulika is in sign of Jup in the 2nd house/ along with > > Jup, Mandi and UL. ???? who did the BM and what was > > used. > > > > Pls guide > > > > Sunil John > > > > P.S: Thanks PVR for ur compassionate mail. Thanks > > Ramesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tax Center - File online by April 15th > > http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Dear Sunil I have an article by Gauranga das on Black magic, and it is mentioned that both Rasi and graha drishti may be considered. In this case the "6th lord" of lower intestine parts, is in 7th house with saturn and venus, aspected by Badhakesh Moon from 12th house. best wishes partha vedic astrology, "jjnet2000_in" <jjnet2000_in> wrote: > Dear Partha, > Thanks for ur mail. If I can request you to kindly consider the whole > post of mine where I have raised other queries also as to the period > when it was done and the motive and who has done it. If u feel its a > personal sensitive case of one of the members of the list, then I can > understand u might not wish to discuss it. > > Coming to graha drishti et all. Pls look at my query there in where I > have used Rasi drishti also and hence I was asking if one should use > Rasi drishti also, since I have used it to connect the badhekhesh to > the 6th lord. > SO once again repeating, should we take Rasi drishti too to fulfill > the criteria of black magic. > > Is 7th house involved (referring to the prashna, private mail) > > Thanks once again, > > best wishes > > Sunil > > vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" > <partvinu5> wrote: > > Dear Sunil > > > > Yes your thinking is correct. I think that when we see aspects we > > have to consider graha drishti, as it is a motive and desire, to > > destroy the person. > > > > I had told Mr.Rao to perform Mrityunjaya mantra and also > > Rudrabhishekam. I am waiting for other senior Gurus to help in this > > case. > > best wishes > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, Sunil John > > <jjnet2000_in> wrote: > > > Dear Guru Partha, > > > > > > I had emailed to you asking for which house/sign to > > > see for kidneys, there has been no reply, in the > > > meanwhile I did prashna and came to the conclusion > > > that 9th house and 12th house is where the problem is. > > > Pls guide if this kind of thinking is correct to see > > > why the person has come to us or rather where is the > > > real problem in the chart. > > > > > > Since u had already giving clear hint that Black Magic > > > might be the case, I searched and found this > > > > > > Abhicara (Black magic) > > > > > > Indications of black magic are: > > > > > > 1. Bädhakeça association with 6th house or lord, or > > > 2. 6th lord in 1st, 7th, or 12th house as Mars > > > occupies as aspects Lagna. > > > 3. Ketu is 1st, 4th, or 10th as Mars aspect Lagna. > > > > > > Position of Gulika indicates this stuff used for black > > > magic. Mritunjaya Japa, Ganapati or Tila Homa > > > indicates the relief. The basic motive for black magic > > > is driving the enemy away from the locality, kill him > > > or cause Lunacy[15]. Anything can be done against him > > > like giving him food (polluted)/burying material > > > inside his house etc. > > > > > > In the concerned chart: > > > > > > 1) For Scorpio lagna 9th lord is the badhak and > > > badhkesh is the Moon in the 12th house in this chart. > > > By aspect it satisfies the first criteria of bahdhesh > > > association with the 6th house . If we take Rasi > > > drishti then 6th lord has double connection. Can we > > > take rasi drishtis in such conditions or is this > > > stretching the rule. > > > > > > 2) 6th lord in the 7th house and Mars is aspecting the > > > lagna satisfying the second condition. > > > > > > 3) The 3rd condition of Ketu in the 1st, 4th, or 10th > > > is not satisfied, so can we still infer considering > > > only the first two conditions that this is a case of > > > black magic. > > > > > > Dasa: > > > If black magic was done , when could it have been done > > > Sat/Sat or Jup/Rahu, although logically speaking Jup > > > period such things shouldn't happen > > > > > > Gulika is in sign of Jup in the 2nd house/ along with > > > Jup, Mandi and UL. ???? who did the BM and what was > > > used. > > > > > > Pls guide > > > > > > Sunil John > > > > > > P.S: Thanks PVR for ur compassionate mail. Thanks > > > Ramesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tax Center - File online by April 15th > > > http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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