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I have included the jhd file according to Sunil John's kind advice, and

posting the message again.

 

Dear all,

 

I have been feeling very desperate about not establishing a true romantic

relationship (not marriage yet, it is not intended that early in our

culture). I am not successful about starting and maintaining a relationship,

are there any signs in my chart to suppress and reduce the effect?

 

Thank you for your interest.

 

Barbaros

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Dear Barbaros,

Wait till you are 28 years of age. Thereafter you will form a lasting

relationship.

Chandrashekhar.

 

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> I have been feeling very desperate about not establishing a true romantic

> relationship (not marriage yet, it is not intended that early in our

> culture). I am not successful about starting and maintaining a

> relationship,

> are there any signs in my chart to suppress and reduce the effect?

>

> Thank you for your interest.

>

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Dear Chandrashekharji,

Can you pls tell the rationale behind the prediction.

It would help me.

 

Thanks,

 

 

With Blessings of the Divine Mother

 

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Chandrashekhar

Barbaros Akkurt

Cc: vedic astrology

Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:52 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Romance problems (jhd file included)

Dear Barbaros,Wait till you are 28 years of age. Thereafter you will form a

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Dear Sunil,

Look at the horoscope carefully. Saturn and mars aspect the 7th house.

Both are retrograde and as such powerful. Saturn is in rasi of his enemy

but Mars is in friend's rasi. Around 2006 he would be running

VE-VE-Sat. Till then Sat. would be in 12th. If marriage takes place

before strength of Mars is lessened around 28 years of age, there could

be serious marital problems. Do you remember what Sanjay talked about

Mars/7th house and 28th year passing off during Puri Conference?

Chandrashekhar.

 

Sunil John wrote:

 

> *Dear Chandrashekharji,*

> *Can you pls tell the rationale behind the prediction.*

> *It would help me.*

>

> *Thanks,*

>

>

> With Blessings of the Divine Mother

>

> Sunil John

> Mumbai

>

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> ** Chandrashekhar <boxdel

> *To:* Barbaros Akkurt <bakkurt

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> <vedic astrology>

> *Sent:* Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:52 AM

> *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] Romance problems (jhd file included)

>

> Dear Barbaros,

> Wait till you are 28 years of age. Thereafter you will form a lasting

> relationship.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Barbaros Akkurt wrote:

>

> > I have included the jhd file according to Sunil John's kind

> advice, and

> > posting the message again.

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > I have been feeling very desperate about not establishing a true

> romantic

> > relationship (not marriage yet, it is not intended that early in our

> > culture). I am not successful about starting and maintaining a

> > relationship,

> > are there any signs in my chart to suppress and reduce the effect?

> >

> > Thank you for your interest.

> >

> > Barbaros

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Dear Chandrashekharji,

Thanks for ur kind reply. From what I could gather, for Mangliks one shouldnt

marry till 28 yrs of age. Is that what u are implying here, since Mars in the

12th is also considered by some as a case of Manglik.

 

Can you pls expand on this since I might have missed this out in the conf

 

"Do you remember what Sanjay talked about Mars/7th house and 28th year passing

off during Puri Conference?"

 

Thanks in advance

 

With Blessings of the Divine Mother

 

Sunil JohnMumbai

-

Chandrashekhar

Sunil John

Cc: Barbaros Akkurt ; vedic astrology

Monday, April 19, 2004 1:14 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Romance problems (jhd file included)

Dear Sunil,Look at the horoscope carefully. Saturn and mars aspect the 7th

house. Both are retrograde and as such powerful. Saturn is in rasi of his enemy

but Mars is in friend's rasi. Around 2006 he would be running VE-VE-Sat. Till

then Sat. would be in 12th. If marriage takes place before strength of Mars is

lessened around 28 years of age, there could be serious marital problems. Do

you remember what Sanjay talked about Mars/7th house and 28th year passing off

during Puri Conference?Chandrashekhar.Sunil John wrote:> *Dear

Chandrashekharji,*> *Can you pls tell the rationale behind the prediction.*>

*It would help me.*> > *Thanks,*> > > With Blessings of the Divine Mother>

> Sunil John> Mumbai>> -> **

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> *To:* Barbaros Akkurt

<bakkurt (AT) turchemsoc (DOT) org>> *Cc:* vedic astrology>

<vedic astrology>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 18, 2004

1:52 AM> *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] Romance problems (jhd file

included)>> Dear Barbaros,> Wait till you are 28 years of age.

Thereafter you will form a lasting> relationship.> Chandrashekhar.>>

Barbaros Akkurt wrote:>> > I have included the jhd file according to Sunil

John's kind> advice, and> > posting the message again.> >> >

Dear all,> >> > I have been feeling very desperate about not

establishing a true> romantic> > relationship (not marriage yet, it is

not intended that early in our> > culture). I am not successful about

starting and maintaining a> > relationship,> > are there any signs in

my chart to suppress and reduce the effect?> >> > Thank you for your

interest.> >> > Barbaros> >> >> > Archives:

vedic astrology> >> > Group info:

vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To

UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology->

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MEMBERS / GURUS TO CLARIFY IT. If anyone wants to have particular remedy for

manglika dosha as per lagna and placement of mars, I can refer to that textbook

for particular set of remedies and let you know.Kind Regards,

Neeraj Gupta--- Sunil John <suniljohn_2004 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear

Chandrashekharji, > Thanks for ur kind reply. From what I could gather, > for

Mangliks one shouldnt marry till 28 yrs of age. > Is that what u are implying

here, since Mars in the > 12th is also considered by some as a case of >

Manglik. > > Can you pls expand on this since I might have missed > this out in

the conf > > "Do you remember what Sanjay talked about > Mars/7th house and 28th

year passing off during Puri > Conference?" > > Thanks in advance > > With

Blessings of the Divine Mother > > Sunil John > Mumbai > ----- Original Message

----- > Chandrashekhar > Sunil John > Cc: Barbaros Akkurt ; >

vedic astrology > Monday, April 19, 2004 1:14 AM >

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[vedic astrology] Romance problems > (jhd file included) > > > Dear Sunil, >

Look at the horoscope carefully. Saturn and mars > aspect the 7th house. > Both

are retrograde and as such powerful. Saturn > is in rasi of his enemy > but Mars

is in friend's rasi. Around 2006 he would > be running > VE-VE-Sat. Till then

Sat. would be in 12th. If > marriage takes place > before strength of Mars is

lessened around 28 > years of age, there could > be serious marital problems.

Do you remember what > Sanjay talked about > Mars/7th house and 28th year

passing off during > Puri Conference? > Chandrashekhar. > > Sunil John wrote: >

> > *Dear Chandrashekharji,* > > *Can you pls tell the rationale behind the >

prediction.* > > *It would help me.* > > > > *Thanks,* > > > >

> > With Blessings of the Divine Mother > > > > Sunil John > > Mumbai > > > >

- > > ** Chandrashekhar >

<boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> > > *To:* Barbaros Akkurt >

<bakkurt (AT) turchemsoc (DOT) org> > > *Cc:* vedic astrology > >

<vedic astrology> > > *Sent:* Sunday, April 18, 2004

1:52 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] Romance > problems (jhd file

included) > > > > Dear Barbaros, > > Wait till you are 28 years of age. >

Thereafter you will form a lasting > > relationship. > > Chandrashekhar. > > >

> Barbaros Akkurt wrote: > > > > > I have included the jhd file according to >

Sunil John's kind > > advice, and > > > posting the

message again. > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I have been feeling very

desperate about > not establishing a true > > romantic > > > relationship (not

marriage yet, it is not > intended that early in our > > > culture). I am not

successful about > starting and maintaining a > > > relationship, > > > are

there any signs in my chart to > suppress and reduce the effect? > > > > > >

Thank you for your interest. > > > > > > Barbaros > > > > > > > > > Archives: >

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Dear Sunil,

Mars in 12th aspects 7th house by 8th house drishty and can create

problems in marital relations. This placement of mars is called Mangalik

by both the North Indian and South Indian Astrologers. The only

difference is that South Indian Astrologers also treat 2nd house Mars as

being Mangalik,and rightly so, as then the Mars aspects the 8th which is

saubhagya sthana for a Lady.

You are right about the reason of advice regarding marrying after 28

years of age, especially as the dashas also support this.

Chandrashekhar.

 

Sunil John wrote:

 

> *Dear Chandrashekharji,*

> *Thanks for ur kind reply. >From what I could gather, for Mangliks one

> shouldnt marry till 28 yrs of age. Is that what u are implying here,

> since Mars in the 12th is also considered by some as a case of Manglik.*

>

> *Can you pls expand on this since I might have missed this out in the

> conf*

>

> *"Do you remember what Sanjay talked about

> Mars/7th house and 28th year passing off during Puri Conference?"*

> **

> *Thanks in advance*

>

> With Blessings of the Divine Mother

>

> Sunil John

> Mumbai

>

> -

> ** Chandrashekhar <boxdel

> *To:* Sunil John <suniljohn_2004

> *Cc:* Barbaros Akkurt <bakkurt ;

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology>

> *Sent:* Monday, April 19, 2004 1:14 AM

> *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] Romance problems (jhd file included)

>

> Dear Sunil,

> Look at the horoscope carefully. Saturn and mars aspect the 7th

> house.

> Both are retrograde and as such powerful. Saturn is in rasi of his

> enemy

> but Mars is in friend's rasi. Around 2006 he would be running

> VE-VE-Sat. Till then Sat. would be in 12th. If marriage takes place

> before strength of Mars is lessened around 28 years of age, there

> could

> be serious marital problems. Do you remember what Sanjay talked about

> Mars/7th house and 28th year passing off during Puri Conference?

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Sunil John wrote:

>

> > *Dear Chandrashekharji,*

> > *Can you pls tell the rationale behind the prediction.*

> > *It would help me.*

> >

> > *Thanks,*

> >

> >

> > With Blessings of the Divine Mother

> >

> > Sunil John

> > Mumbai

> >

> > -

> > ** Chandrashekhar <boxdel

> > *To:* Barbaros Akkurt <bakkurt

> > *Cc:* vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > *Sent:* Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:52 AM

> > *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] Romance problems (jhd file

> included)

> >

> > Dear Barbaros,

> > Wait till you are 28 years of age. Thereafter you will form

> a lasting

> > relationship.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Barbaros Akkurt wrote:

> >

> > > I have included the jhd file according to Sunil John's kind

> > advice, and

> > > posting the message again.

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > I have been feeling very desperate about not establishing

> a true

> > romantic

> > > relationship (not marriage yet, it is not intended that

> early in our

> > > culture). I am not successful about starting and maintaining a

> > > relationship,

> > > are there any signs in my chart to suppress and reduce the

> effect?

> > >

> > > Thank you for your interest.

> > >

> > > Barbaros

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Group info:

> vedic astrology/info.html

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