Job loss/gain of example chart by Rageshwari

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Dear Partha, Saaji and others,

Thanks for the explanation and further analysis.

Partha, yes I overlooked the placement of the Sun in D10, should have checked that.

I have been trying to exercise a bit more on this chart and some queries still arise.

Require guidance.

 

 

Loss of Job: 23rd / 24th Jan 2002 Ven/Sun/Ketu (although my software is

showing Mer - using 360 deg solar yrs)

 

Partha: In d10 the 6,8,12 houses and planets associated with it , wouldn't it

give job loss, I remember reading it somewhere, if this is correct how come the

6th Mer gave him a job loss?

Kindly guide.

 

Gain of Job: 18th Mar 2002 Ven/Sun/Ven

 

If I try to look these events from Naryana Dasa of D10

 

Narayana Dasa of D-10 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

 

Cn MD: 1994-01-20 (06:12:43) - 2005-01-20 (01:55:06) Pi AD: 2001-05-21

(00:47:29) - 2002-04-20 (07:46:26)

 

Pratyantardasas in this AD:

 

Cp: 2001-12-31 (16:27:33) - 2002-01-27 (16:33:24) - Job loss Sg: 2002-01-27

(16:33:24) - 2002-02-23 (20:50:09) Sc: 2002-02-23 (20:50:09) - 2002-03-23

(09:10:40) - Job gain

Li: 2002-03-23 (09:10:40) - 2002-04-20 (07:46:26)

 

PD of Cp i.e 10th house giving job loss, I find it difficult to understand,

unless if think that the 10th house is spoiled due to the malefic aspects etc.

 

PD of Sc giving job gain, it has Gulika in it ?, Sc in D10 is neither the lagna,

5th or trines to it, nor 10th house. so how come this gave job.

 

Thanking you,

 

With Blessings of the Divine Mother

 

Sunil John

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I shall send thank you letter to the person so concerned so as not to clog the

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vedic astrology

Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:15 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Effect of Transit R transit on AL

Dear Sunil

 

Do you know when the loss exactly occured was it in mercury PD, or Ketu PD. I

use 360 Deg solar based years.

Okay regarding Sun, sun is debilitated in dasamsa, and is also placed in 7th

house, which is maraka sthana for 6th house of service.

Infact i lost my job when Rahu-saturn-sun was running. Now sun is a good planet

for Dhanus, then why did i lose in sun pd, because sun is in 12th house in d-10

 

You very well know that Transits cannot override what is there in dasa. If dasa

is bad, transits would cooperate and make life miserable.

best wishes

partha

Sunil John <suniljohn_2004 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Partha Guru,

Greetings

1 ) Why did the antara of the lagna lord give loss of job, although at the time

of job loss marakesh Mer's PD was happening. I thought the lagna lord always

protects.

2) Taking into account what reply you have give, so every time 4 planets are in

the 8th from AL, job loss would be seen - can this technique be used repeatedly

or other criteria are to be used.

 

Joy and Abundance

 

With the blessings of Divine Mother

Sunil John

Mumbai

 

 

Dear RageswariWhat about 4 planets in 8th from AL, during the loss of job. Rahu

wasalso changing signs. See by march 2002, rahu had changed signs, andplanets

were in 10th from AL.best wishespartha

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Dear Ramesh Ji,

 

Thank you for confirming on what I have understood is correct

with your findings in PVR Ji's examples. I have learned from

them too.

 

Now as per my laptop using Jhora commercial, I am getting

Merc PD, but I think Partha Ji is getting Ketu PD, so I do

not know.

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Ven MD: 1997-12-21 (14:55:47) - 2017-12-21 (17:48:51)

Sun AD: 2001-04-19 (20:00:55) - 2002-04-20 (2:05:58)

Merc PD: 2001-12-09 (20:22:42) - 2002-01-28 (22:32:44)

 

Also: Raji Ji, can you please check with the native, whether he

had any problems with the job between Aug and Sep 201, when

Jupiter PD was running.

 

Thanks for helping to understand the principles are working with

this live case.

 

Regards

Raghunadha Rao

 

vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

<ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Rao,

> I went through PVRji's mail once again. The examples he has given

include

> loss of job and even giving up career. So he does find a link

between dasas

> of planets associated with dusthana from A10 in D10 with job loss

as well as

> job gain.

> The only point that now needs to be examined is about job loss

during Merc

> PD i.e. if the native was really running Merc PD during that period.

> Kind regards

> Ramesh

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani

> Saturday, April 10, 2004 4:58 PM

> vedic astrology

> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Job loss/gain of example chart

by

> Rageshwari

>

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Rao,

>

> I am aware of the extensive work you have been doing in this

area. Your

> analysis becomes a valuable basis for further learning for fellow

students.

>

> While Job loss may lead to eventual change, I would think that

the the two

> are still a little different, unless we consider job to no job as a

change

> for worse and no-job to job as change for the better!!

>

> The difference in PD at the time of job loss persists. The earlier

> communication indicates job loss during Ketu PD. You have analyzed

it based

> on Mercury PD. I am also getting Mercury PD for the given date.

Mercury as

> mentioned by Parthaji is exalted in 6H (of service) in D10, which

may not

> lead to job loss! If it was Ketu PD the logic given below would

require a

> review. I shall be looking forward for further comments.

>

> Sunil,

> I have added earlier mails by Saji on the subject. I shall post

it as

> suggested.

>

> Kind regards

> Ramesh

>

> Rao Nemani [raon1008]

> Saturday, April 10, 2004 2:33 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Job loss/gain of example chart by

> Rageshwari

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Namaste Ramesh Ji,

>

> Thanks for the points. In my opinion there is no contradiction

> between the two as you have mentioned, infact both are pointing

the

> same. Both are indicating job change, but for the job loss, one

has

> to see the malefic affects of the planets and their association

with

> the other planets associated with the 3, 6, 8, 12th house/lords

too.

>

> That is the reason why I have said, Also Jup who is 3rd and 6th

lord

> from A-10 is placed in 12th from A-10 in D-10. Now I am giving

a clue

> on what might happend on Jup (3rd and 6th lord from A-10 is

placed in

> 12th from A-10 in D-10) Next.

>

> Hope that clarifies my thinking. Please do remember I am still

a

> beginner and learning from you all.

>

> Regards

> Raghunadha Rao

>

> vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

> <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat,

> >

> > Dear Partha, Rageshwari, Sunil and Rao,

> >

> > This is an interesting case analysis. Since it pertains to a

topic

> that is

> > very important, I have compiled an 'extract' of some concepts

that

> have

> > emerged so far. I have also appended an old mail from PVRji

> relevant to the

> > topic being discussed. Please feel free to add comments/

points

> that I may

> > have missed out. I will update comments from the mails that

follow

> this

> > thread.

> >

> > Dear Rao, I wonder if there is some contradiction between two

> statements

> > mentioned below!

> >

> > Rao: If you look at his D-10, Merc (9th and 12th lord)is

placed in

> 12th from

> > A-10 along with Jup who is 3rd and 6th lord from A-10. This

is

> sufficient

> > to give the job loss.

> >

> > PVRji: I noticed that changes of job are typically given by

planets

> > associated with 6th, 8th and 12th from A10 in D-10.

> >

> > Kind Regards

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> >

> > Rao Nemani [raon1008]

> > Friday, April 09, 2004 11:59 PM

> > Vedic Astrology Group

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Job loss/gain of example

chart by

> > Rageshwari

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Dear Sunil and Raji Ji,

> >

> > I am sorry for my being late to participate in this

discussion,

> as you

> > know this is one of my interested areas of Jyotish, so let me

> attempt to

> > give my understanding on this and request Guru's to correct

me if I

> am wrong

> > some where.

> >

> > I have considered the following birth details for this

analysis:

> >

> > January 19, 1973

> > Time: 20:59:00

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 86 E 10' 00", 22 N 50' 00"

> >

> > 1) First Event:

> > Lost the Job on 01/23/2002

> >

> > Let us see why the native lost job on this date using just

the

> Vimosttari

> > Dasa first.

> >

> > On the day of lossing the job the native running "Ven-Sun-

Merc"

> dasa.

> >

> > If you look at his D-10, Merc (9th and 12th lord)is placed

in

> 12th from

> > A-10 along with Jup who is 3rd and 6th lord from A-10. This

is

> suffiecient

> > to give the job loss. As why he lost the job we have already

> discussed the

> > reasons of ketu is placed in 10th house from D-10 Lagna.

> >

> > Now let us have a quick look at the transits on this date:

> >

> > On 01/23/2002. Saturn is Retro is placed in Ta. So I would

> consider him

> > from Ar being Vakra.

> > So this Satrun is aspecting his natal D-10's A-10 in Li, so

that

> is

> > suffiecient to give job change which caused the job Loss here

too as

> > explained above.

> >

> > 2) Second Event:

> > Got a Job on 03/18/2002, when native was running "Ven-Sun-

Ven"

> dasa.

> >

> > Now let us see why he got the job during this Ven Pratyantar

> Dasa. Venu

> > is placed in 8th house from A-10 and also aspecting A-10.

You will

> also

> > notice that HL and SL are aspecting mutual here, so he may

have

> got a job

> > with more money and status too.

> >

> > I will write later on using Narayana Dasa and Tithi Pravesha

> Charts on

> > these two events.

> >

> > Regards

> > Raghunadha Rao

> >

> > ---- original message ---

> >

> > "Sunil John" <suniljohn_2004@h...>

> > Fri Apr 9, 2004 9:53 am

> > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Job loss/gain of example

> chart by

> > Rageshwari

> >

> > Dear Rageshwari,

> >

> > How nice of u to write back with such a wonderful

explanation.

> Thanks for

> > writing. I hope this reaches the list. Gosh, one more member

of the

> list has

> > written to me telling that he isnt able to access the list,

oh yeah

> it is

> > Saaji ji, Mer R is playing havoc in my life atleast and my

mails not

> > reaching on the list. Althugh too loose to use it as an

excuse but

> I feel it

> > really works, I guess since Mer is my lagna lord, I dont know

if

> Saaji's Mer

> > is also influential.

> >

> > Must get another thread on Mer R

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > Sunil

> >

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vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008>

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Dear Ramesh Ji,

>

> Thank you for confirming on what I have understood is correct

> with your findings in PVR Ji's examples. I have learned from

> them too.

>

> Now as per my laptop using Jhora commercial, I am getting

> Merc PD, but I think Partha Ji is getting Ketu PD, so I do

> not know.

>

> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

>

> Ven MD: 1997-12-21 (14:55:47) - 2017-12-21 (17:48:51)

> Sun AD: 2001-04-19 (20:00:55) - 2002-04-20 (2:05:58)

> Merc PD: 2001-12-09 (20:22:42) - 2002-01-28 (22:32:44)

>

> Also: Raji Ji, can you please check with the native, whether he

> had any problems with the job between Aug and Sep 201, when

> Jupiter PD was running.

>

> Thanks for helping to understand the principles are working with

> this live case.

>

> Regards

> Raghunadha Rao

>

> vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

> <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >

> > Dear Rao,

> > I went through PVRji's mail once again. The examples he has given

> include

> > loss of job and even giving up career. So he does find a link

> between dasas

> > of planets associated with dusthana from A10 in D10 with job loss

> as well as

> > job gain.

> > The only point that now needs to be examined is about job loss

> during Merc

> > PD i.e. if the native was really running Merc PD during that

period.

> > Kind regards

> > Ramesh

> >

> > Ramesh Gangaramani

> > Saturday, April 10, 2004 4:58 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Job loss/gain of example

chart

> by

> > Rageshwari

> >

> >

> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >

> > Dear Rao,

> >

> > I am aware of the extensive work you have been doing in this

> area. Your

> > analysis becomes a valuable basis for further learning for fellow

> students.

> >

> > While Job loss may lead to eventual change, I would think that

> the the two

> > are still a little different, unless we consider job to no job as

a

> change

> > for worse and no-job to job as change for the better!!

> >

> > The difference in PD at the time of job loss persists. The

earlier

> > communication indicates job loss during Ketu PD. You have

analyzed

> it based

> > on Mercury PD. I am also getting Mercury PD for the given date.

> Mercury as

> > mentioned by Parthaji is exalted in 6H (of service) in D10, which

> may not

> > lead to job loss! If it was Ketu PD the logic given below would

> require a

> > review. I shall be looking forward for further comments.

> >

> > Sunil,

> > I have added earlier mails by Saji on the subject. I shall post

> it as

> > suggested.

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Ramesh

> >

> > Rao Nemani [raon1008]

> > Saturday, April 10, 2004 2:33 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Job loss/gain of example chart

by

> > Rageshwari

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Namaste Ramesh Ji,

> >

> > Thanks for the points. In my opinion there is no contradiction

> > between the two as you have mentioned, infact both are

pointing

> the

> > same. Both are indicating job change, but for the job loss,

one

> has

> > to see the malefic affects of the planets and their

association

> with

> > the other planets associated with the 3, 6, 8, 12th

house/lords

> too.

> >

> > That is the reason why I have said, Also Jup who is 3rd and

6th

> lord

> > from A-10 is placed in 12th from A-10 in D-10. Now I am

giving

> a clue

> > on what might happend on Jup (3rd and 6th lord from A-10 is

> placed in

> > 12th from A-10 in D-10) Next.

> >

> > Hope that clarifies my thinking. Please do remember I am

still

> a

> > beginner and learning from you all.

> >

> > Regards

> > Raghunadha Rao

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

> > <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat,

> > >

> > > Dear Partha, Rageshwari, Sunil and Rao,

> > >

> > > This is an interesting case analysis. Since it pertains to

a

> topic

> > that is

> > > very important, I have compiled an 'extract' of some

concepts

> that

> > have

> > > emerged so far. I have also appended an old mail from PVRji

> > relevant to the

> > > topic being discussed. Please feel free to add comments/

> points

> > that I may

> > > have missed out. I will update comments from the mails that

> follow

> > this

> > > thread.

> > >

> > > Dear Rao, I wonder if there is some contradiction between

two

> > statements

> > > mentioned below!

> > >

> > > Rao: If you look at his D-10, Merc (9th and 12th lord)is

> placed in

> > 12th from

> > > A-10 along with Jup who is 3rd and 6th lord from A-10.

This

> is

> > sufficient

> > > to give the job loss.

> > >

> > > PVRji: I noticed that changes of job are typically given by

> planets

> > > associated with 6th, 8th and 12th from A10 in D-10.

> > >

> > > Kind Regards

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Rao Nemani [raon1008]

> > > Friday, April 09, 2004 11:59 PM

> > > Vedic Astrology Group

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Job loss/gain of example

> chart by

> > > Rageshwari

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > >

> > > Dear Sunil and Raji Ji,

> > >

> > > I am sorry for my being late to participate in this

> discussion,

> > as you

> > > know this is one of my interested areas of Jyotish, so let

me

> > attempt to

> > > give my understanding on this and request Guru's to correct

> me if I

> > am wrong

> > > some where.

> > >

> > > I have considered the following birth details for this

> analysis:

> > >

> > > January 19, 1973

> > > Time: 20:59:00

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 86 E 10' 00", 22 N 50' 00"

> > >

> > > 1) First Event:

> > > Lost the Job on 01/23/2002

> > >

> > > Let us see why the native lost job on this date using

just

> the

> > Vimosttari

> > > Dasa first.

> > >

> > > On the day of lossing the job the native running "Ven-Sun-

> Merc"

> > dasa.

> > >

> > > If you look at his D-10, Merc (9th and 12th lord)is

placed

> in

> > 12th from

> > > A-10 along with Jup who is 3rd and 6th lord from A-10.

This

> is

> > suffiecient

> > > to give the job loss. As why he lost the job we have

already

> > discussed the

> > > reasons of ketu is placed in 10th house from D-10 Lagna.

> > >

> > > Now let us have a quick look at the transits on this date:

> > >

> > > On 01/23/2002. Saturn is Retro is placed in Ta. So I

would

> > consider him

> > > from Ar being Vakra.

> > > So this Satrun is aspecting his natal D-10's A-10 in Li,

so

> that

> > is

> > > suffiecient to give job change which caused the job Loss

here

> too as

> > > explained above.

> > >

> > > 2) Second Event:

> > > Got a Job on 03/18/2002, when native was running "Ven-

Sun-

> Ven"

> > dasa.

> > >

> > > Now let us see why he got the job during this Ven

Pratyantar

> > Dasa. Venu

> > > is placed in 8th house from A-10 and also aspecting A-10.

> You will

> > also

> > > notice that HL and SL are aspecting mutual here, so he may

> have

> > got a job

> > > with more money and status too.

> > >

> > > I will write later on using Narayana Dasa and Tithi

Pravesha

> > Charts on

> > > these two events.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Raghunadha Rao

> > >

> > > ---- original message ---

> > >

> > > "Sunil John" <suniljohn_2004@h...>

> > > Fri Apr 9, 2004 9:53 am

> > > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Job loss/gain of

example

> > chart by

> > > Rageshwari

> > >

> > > Dear Rageshwari,

> > >

> > > How nice of u to write back with such a wonderful

> explanation.

> > Thanks for

> > > writing. I hope this reaches the list. Gosh, one more

member

> of the

> > list has

> > > written to me telling that he isnt able to access the list,

> oh yeah

> > it is

> > > Saaji ji, Mer R is playing havoc in my life atleast and my

> mails not

> > > reaching on the list. Althugh too loose to use it as an

> excuse but

> > I feel it

> > > really works, I guess since Mer is my lagna lord, I dont

know

> if

> > Saaji's Mer

> > > is also influential.

> > >

> > > Must get another thread on Mer R

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > > Sunil

> > >

> > >

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Thanks a lot for contributing to this thread. I have learnt a lot from you

during this entire exchange.

 

I must have missed your earlier email wherein you rectified the birth time of

this native. Regardless, I am amazed with the clarity of dictums that you

applied in the analysis.

 

I think I am quite clear about the concepts surrounding job loss and gain. In a

few days I am going to post a chart of another native and predict whether she

will lose a job (her company is undergoing layoff) or not using the techniques

I have learnt analyzing this chart.

 

P.s. Yes. I have understood my lesson of correct ToB's importance in

predictions. Going forward I will use the technique of Pranapada Lagna to the

least to rectify the ToB.

 

Namaste.

 

Rageshwari.partha sarathy <partvinu5 > wrote:

Dear RageswariYou have mentioned that the rumors of layoff started on 18th

january2002. Infact the Jhora that i have shows ketu PD starting on 18thJanuary

2002 for the native.Infact i think i had mentioned that i had rectified the TOB

to 21:01PM. The reason is i am getting Pranapada lagna as Dhanishta 1stquarter

with 20:59, so i changed it to 21:01 so that pranapada lagnacomes to Dhanishta

4th quarter, which then makes Pranapada lagna intrines to navamsa moon. I am

sure i communicated this in my secondmail on this thread, but i am reiterating

the same fact again. Seeagain a miscommunication has taken place.Now with this

new TOB, i am getting Ketu PD Starting on 18th ofJanuary, and it is no

coincidence that the Rumors also broke on thesame day. And look he lost the job

on 23rd, what was running thenVenus-SUn-ketu-SUN.The role of debilitated sun was

clearly present on the Sookshamantardasa day.i have done Birth rectification

many times in the past in lists, andeven Rao and SUnil are aware that i dont

push forward my analysiswithout doing birth time rectification.I hope you now

understand, what a "correct TOB means" in events. This mercury retrograde has

taught us important lessons in "timing" of events.

Best wishespartharageshwari75 <rageshwari75 > wrote:

Dear Parthaji,I am confused about the dasas now too. Today when I checked this

same chart I see Mercury Vimshottari till 01-28-2002. Strange.So the JHL that I

have basically implies that the native lost job in Mercury Vimshottari which

does not make much sense. I moved the TOB 2 minutes forward (to 21:01) to get

Ketu PD start from 01-18-2002 (the day when the native heard rumors about

company wide layoff).Do you think this is a case of birth time rectification?

Please note that I have never rectified the birth time on this chart because

the native is quite confident of the correctness of birth

time.Namaste.Rageshwari.

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