Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 My Response to Kumar's "Bangalore Female" Post 8:33 PM 2/7/2004 Hi Kumar, Just saw this. I will try to respond to your questions. Yes, this girl has Kala Sarpa Yoga. However there is no need to be unduly alarmed about this. Alot of people have it, and here in America, it usually manifests as themes having to with obsession, compulsion, involving the houses where the Nodes fall. Here in the 2-8 axis, one possible issue could be with the family, in some way - perhaps there was a money issue when she was growing up, perhaps poverty? In any event, I see that security and material comforts are or should be important (Cancer Lagna, Lagnesh Moon in the 10th with exalted Sun), as well as a independent, firery streak (see previous comments in paraentheses). In your culture, this could be a problem if she indeed is this way, as you still do the arranged marriage thing over there, and she may not want to do that. Anyway, please let me know. Saturn ruling the 7th in the 2nd with Mars, Jupiter and Rahu again puts emphasis on material goods and comfort in terms of marriage. These concerns will be very important to her, and she probably likes lots of jewelry, too. Mercury's debilitation is reversed due to the things you cited in your email/post. Mercury is exalted in Navamsa, and what's more, natural benefics occupy Mercury's other sign Gemini. This suggests that she have had some very good education, perhaps something to do with the Arts? Venus in the Rasi is in its own sign and in the 2nd house from the Moon. In terms of planetary states, the only planets I see here that are potentially problematic are the Moon, ruling the Lagna, and Saturn, ruling the 7th house. As Sani rules the 8th and is inimical to the Moon, this can create some degree of problems in the relationship department and could cause some delays in terms considers to be the right time to marry, which is rather young in comparison to what we are used to over here in the USA. Anyway, I don't see this as too much of a problem. The lady has the kind of chart that, properly matched and with the appropriate counseling of both partners, can bring the hubbie very nice results and rise in his overall circumstances. Saturn is the 7th lord and associates with Jupiter, giving Satkalatra Yoga; it also associates with Mars which is yogakaraka for Cancer lagna. The role that Rahu could play here is an attachment with someone the girl's parents might not much approve of; he could be of another caste or race, or religion or all of the above. There is no Kuja Dosha here, but due to the other factors already mentioned, there still could delays and the like concerning marriage, or some other such problems there. Care should be taken to make sure that the potential hubbie does not have KD of any kind. She could get married either in the Fall of this year or sometime in 2005, with transit Saturn in Cancer going through her Asc ruling the 7th. Transit Jupiter goes through her 3rd house and aspects her 7th this Fall also (starting in Sep, 2004). In her Navamsa, transit Jupiter passes through the Lagna and aspects the 7th its own house. So marriage definitely seems likely later this year or next year. Hope I've answered your questions. Salaam, Mu vedic astrology "yogesh_kumar_75" <yogesh_kumar_75 Add to Address Book Sat, 07 Feb 2004 08:35:41 -0000 [vedic astrology] Yogas in this Chart OM MAMO BHAGWATE VASUDEVAYA ============================== Respected Gurujis, I came across chart of a lady with the following birth details. Place of Birth : Bangalore Time at Birth : 11:55 AM Date of Birth : April-16, 1980 I took one cursory look at this chart, and have stumbled upon these yogas with my extremely limited knowledge. I would like to know from the Highly Learned Members of our group -- if the following findings and the basis on which they were arrived at, are correct. Niryan Planetary Degrees Planet Rasi Degree Retrodrade Combust Exalt Velocity Sun Aries 2/50/53 0/58/41 Moon Aries 18/29/37 14/56/53 Mars Leo 2/51/29 Dir 0/ 6/47 Mercury Pisces 8/45/38 Dir DEBL 1/28/24 Jupiter Leo 6/49/ 8 Ret 0/ 1/53 Venus Taurus 18/10/30 Dir 0/53/16 Saturn Leo 28/ 7/37 Ret 0/ 3/26 Rahu Leo 2/41/28 0/ 3/10 Ketu Aquarius 2/41/28 0/ 3/10 Ascendant Degree Nakshatra Star-Lord Sub-Lord Sub-Sub-Lord Gemini 28/18/25 Punarvasu Jupiter Venus Saturn Navamsa chart Sun : Aries Moon : Virgo Mars : Aries Mercury: Virgo Jupiter:Gemini Venus : Gemini Saturn :Saggitarus Rahu :Aries Ketu :Libra Ascendant : Gemini Does this lady have 1. Kalasarpa Yoga: All Planets hemmed between Rahu and Ketu 2. Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga Mercury Debilitated in Rasi, but in exaltation Sign in Navamsa. Gurujis, I would also be grateful if you can enlighten me on the following issues. Barring Moon and Venus in the Rasi, the remaining planets are either in Yuva Avastha or Vriddha Avastha. What should be construed from this? What are the marital prospects for this lady? Would she contribute to the general well-being of her better half? Regards, Kumar Yogesh ===== Mu'Min M. Bey Western and Vedic Astrologer Check out my site: http://marlenesniche.tripod.com/metaphysics/id70.html AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Mu, Saturn and Mars are placed with Rahu in Leo. Would the KSY be broken by such a placement? What would be the impact of such a break? Kind Regards Ramesh ----Original Message-----Mu'Min Bey [mumin_bey ]Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:03 AMyogesh_kumar_75 ; vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Mu's Response to Kumar's "Bangalore Female" Post My Response to Kumar's "Bangalore Female" Post8:33 PM 2/7/2004Hi Kumar, Just saw this. I will try to respond to yourquestions. Yes, this girl has Kala Sarpa Yoga. However there isno need to be unduly alarmed about this. Alot of people have it, and here inAmerica, it usually manifests as themes having to with obsession, compulsion, involvingthe houses where the Nodes fall. Here in the 2-8 axis, one possible issue couldbe with the family, in some way - perhaps there was a money issue when she was growingup, perhaps poverty? In any event, I see that security and material comfortsare or should be important (Cancer Lagna, Lagnesh Moon in the 10th with exaltedSun), as well as a independent, firery streak (see previous comments inparaentheses). In your culture, this could be a problem if she indeed is thisway, as you still do the arranged marriage thing over there, and she may notwant to do that. Anyway, please let me know. Saturn ruling the 7th in the 2nd with Mars, Jupiterand Rahu again puts emphasis on material goods and comfort in terms of marriage. Theseconcerns will be very important to her, and she probably likes lots ofjewelry, too. Mercury's debilitation is reversed due to the thingsyou cited in your email/post. Mercury is exalted in Navamsa, and what's more,natural benefics occupy Mercury's other sign Gemini. This suggests that she have hadsome very good education, perhaps something to do with the Arts? Venus in theRasi is in its own sign and in the 2nd house from the Moon. In terms of planetary states, the only planets I seehere that are potentially problematic are the Moon, ruling the Lagna, andSaturn, ruling the 7th house. As Sani rules the 8th and is inimical to the Moon, thiscan create some degree of problems in the relationship department and couldcause some delays in terms considers to be the right time to marry, which israther young in comparison to what we are used to over here in the USA. Anyway, I don'tsee this as too much of a problem.The lady has the kind of chart that, properly matchedand with the appropriate counseling of both partners, can bring the hubbie verynice results and rise in his overall circumstances. Saturn is the 7th lord andassociates with Jupiter, giving Satkalatra Yoga; it also associates with Mars which isyogakaraka for Cancer lagna. The role that Rahu could play here is an attachmentwith someone the girl's parents might not much approve of; he could be of anothercaste or race, or religion or all of the above. There is no Kuja Dosha here, but due to the otherfactors already mentioned, there still could delays and the like concerning marriage,or some other such problems there. Care should be taken to make sure that thepotential hubbie does not have KD of any kind. She could get married either in the Fall of this yearor sometime in 2005, with transit Saturn in Cancer going through her Asc ruling the 7th.Transit Jupiter goes through her 3rd house and aspects her 7th this Fall also(starting in Sep, 2004). In her Navamsa, transit Jupiter passes through the Lagna andaspects the 7th its own house. So marriage definitely seems likely later thisyear or next year. Hope I've answered your questions.Salaam,Muvedic astrology "yogesh_kumar_75" <yogesh_kumar_75 > Add to Address Book Sat, 07 Feb 2004 08:35:41 -0000 [vedic astrology] Yogas in this Chart OM MAMO BHAGWATE VASUDEVAYA ==============================Respected Gurujis,I came across chart of a lady with the following birthdetails. Place of Birth : BangaloreTime at Birth : 11:55 AMDate of Birth : April-16, 1980I took one cursory look at this chart, and havestumbled upon these yogas with my extremely limited knowledge. I wouldlike to know from the Highly Learned Members of our group -- if thefollowing findings and the basis on which they were arrived at, arecorrect.Niryan Planetary DegreesPlanet Rasi Degree Retrodrade Combust ExaltVelocity Sun Aries 2/50/53 0/58/41 Moon Aries 18/29/37 14/56/53 Mars Leo 2/51/29 Dir 0/6/47 Mercury Pisces 8/45/38 Dir DEBL 1/28/24 Jupiter Leo 6/49/ 8 Ret 0/1/53 Venus Taurus 18/10/30 Dir 0/53/16 Saturn Leo 28/ 7/37 Ret 0/3/26 Rahu Leo 2/41/28 0/3/10 Ketu Aquarius 2/41/28 0/3/10 Ascendant Degree Nakshatra Star-Lord Sub-LordSub-Sub-Lord Gemini 28/18/25 Punarvasu Jupiter Venus Saturn Navamsa chartSun : Aries Moon : VirgoMars : AriesMercury: VirgoJupiter:GeminiVenus : GeminiSaturn :SaggitarusRahu :AriesKetu :LibraAscendant : GeminiDoes this lady have1. Kalasarpa Yoga: All Planets hemmed between Rahu and Ketu2. Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga Mercury Debilitated in Rasi, but in exaltation Signin Navamsa.Gurujis,I would also be grateful if you can enlighten me onthe following issues.Barring Moon and Venus in the Rasi, the remainingplanets are either in Yuva Avastha or Vriddha Avastha. What should beconstrued from this? What are the marital prospects for this lady?Would she contribute to the general well-being of herbetter half?Regards,Kumar Yogesh=====Mu'Min M. BeyWestern and Vedic AstrologerCheck out my site:http://marlenesniche.tripod.com/metaphysics/id70.htmlAOL IM Screen Name: JediMuJoin the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- (AT) topica (DOT) comDo you ? Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online.http://taxes./filing.htmlArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 OM NAMO BHAGWATE VASUDEVAAYA ============================= Salaam Mu, I thought this chart had a Gemini ascendant and your observations are based on a Cancer lagna. Iam seconding your comments on KSY. I just realized that the Late Mrs. Indira Gandhi too had KSY, and she went on to become the Pime Minister of India. So, no need to be unduly alarmed by the prescence of KSY. Regards, Yogesh vedic astrology, Mu'Min Bey <mumin_bey> wrote: > My Response to Kumar's "Bangalore Female" Post > > 8:33 PM 2/7/2004 > > Hi Kumar, > > Just saw this. I will try to respond to your > questions. > > Yes, this girl has Kala Sarpa Yoga. However there is > no need to be unduly alarmed > > about this. Alot of people have it, and here in > America, it usually manifests as > > themes having to with obsession, compulsion, involving > the houses where the Nodes > > fall. Here in the 2-8 axis, one possible issue could > be with the family, in some way - > > perhaps there was a money issue when she was growing > up, perhaps poverty? In > > any event, I see that security and material comforts > are or should be important > > (Cancer Lagna, Lagnesh Moon in the 10th with exalted > Sun), as well as a > > independent, firery streak (see previous comments in > paraentheses). In your > > culture, this could be a problem if she indeed is this > way, as you still do the > > arranged marriage thing over there, and she may not > want to do that. Anyway, > > please let me know. > > Saturn ruling the 7th in the 2nd with Mars, Jupiter > and Rahu again puts emphasis on > > material goods and comfort in terms of marriage. These > concerns will be very > > important to her, and she probably likes lots of > jewelry, too. > > Mercury's debilitation is reversed due to the things > you cited in your email/post. > > Mercury is exalted in Navamsa, and what's more, > natural benefics occupy Mercury's > > other sign Gemini. This suggests that she have had > some very good education, > > perhaps something to do with the Arts? Venus in the > Rasi is in its own sign and in > > the 2nd house from the Moon. > > In terms of planetary states, the only planets I see > here that are potentially > > problematic are the Moon, ruling the Lagna, and > Saturn, ruling the 7th house. As > > Sani rules the 8th and is inimical to the Moon, this > can create some degree of > > problems in the relationship department and could > cause some delays in terms > > considers to be the right time to marry, which is > rather young in comparison to what > > we are used to over here in the USA. Anyway, I don't > see this as too much of a > > problem. > > The lady has the kind of chart that, properly matched > and with the appropriate > > counseling of both partners, can bring the hubbie very > nice results and rise in his > > overall circumstances. Saturn is the 7th lord and > associates with Jupiter, giving > > Satkalatra Yoga; it also associates with Mars which is > yogakaraka for Cancer lagna. > > The role that Rahu could play here is an attachment > with someone the girl's parents > > might not much approve of; he could be of another > caste or race, or religion or all of > > the above. > > There is no Kuja Dosha here, but due to the other > factors already mentioned, there > > still could delays and the like concerning marriage, > or some other such problems > > there. Care should be taken to make sure that the > potential hubbie does not have > > KD of any kind. > > She could get married either in the Fall of this year > or sometime in 2005, with transit > > Saturn in Cancer going through her Asc ruling the 7th. > Transit Jupiter goes through > > her 3rd house and aspects her 7th this Fall also > (starting in Sep, 2004). In her > > Navamsa, transit Jupiter passes through the Lagna and > aspects the 7th its own > > house. So marriage definitely seems likely later this > year or next year. > > Hope I've answered your questions. > > Salaam, > Mu > > vedic astrology > "yogesh_kumar_75" <yogesh_kumar_75> > Add to Address Book > Sat, 07 Feb 2004 08:35:41 -0000 > [vedic astrology] Yogas in this Chart > > > > > OM MAMO BHAGWATE VASUDEVAYA > ============================== > > Respected Gurujis, > I came across chart of a lady with the following birth > details. > > Place of Birth : Bangalore > Time at Birth : 11:55 AM > Date of Birth : April-16, 1980 > > I took one cursory look at this chart, and have > stumbled upon these > yogas with my extremely limited knowledge. I would > like to know from > the Highly Learned Members of our group -- if the > following findings > and the basis on which they were arrived at, are > correct. > > Niryan Planetary Degrees > > Planet Rasi Degree Retrodrade Combust Exalt > Velocity > Sun Aries 2/50/53 > 0/58/41 > Moon Aries 18/29/37 > 14/56/53 > Mars Leo 2/51/29 Dir 0/ > 6/47 > Mercury Pisces 8/45/38 Dir DEBL > 1/28/24 > Jupiter Leo 6/49/ 8 Ret 0/ > 1/53 > Venus Taurus 18/10/30 Dir > 0/53/16 > Saturn Leo 28/ 7/37 Ret 0/ > 3/26 > Rahu Leo 2/41/28 0/ > 3/10 > Ketu Aquarius 2/41/28 0/ > 3/10 > > Ascendant Degree Nakshatra Star-Lord Sub-Lord > Sub-Sub-Lord > Gemini 28/18/25 Punarvasu Jupiter Venus > Saturn > > > Navamsa chart > > Sun : Aries > Moon : Virgo > Mars : Aries > Mercury: Virgo > Jupiter:Gemini > Venus : Gemini > Saturn :Saggitarus > Rahu :Aries > Ketu :Libra > Ascendant : Gemini > > Does this lady have > > 1. Kalasarpa Yoga: > All Planets hemmed between Rahu and Ketu > > 2. Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga > Mercury Debilitated in Rasi, but in exaltation Sign > in Navamsa. > > Gurujis, > I would also be grateful if you can enlighten me on > the following > issues. > > Barring Moon and Venus in the Rasi, the remaining > planets are either > in Yuva Avastha or Vriddha Avastha. What should be > construed from > this? > > What are the marital prospects for this lady? > Would she contribute to the general well-being of her > better half? > > Regards, > Kumar Yogesh > > > > > > ===== > Mu'Min M. Bey > Western and Vedic Astrologer > Check out my site: > http://marlenesniche.tripod.com/metaphysics/id70.html > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum-@t... > > > > Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. > http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Dear Respected Gurus , MuMinBey,Sathiyanarayanguptaji,Rameshji,Imranji, and other learned experts I have heard different versions about KSY and KAY. I am pasting some of the versions by some of the astrologers about KSY.It is not my intention to disrespect the opinions of these authors. I find this esteemed group of learned Gurus really excel in their analysis . It is highly interesting and valuable to learners like me in understanding when does KSY really occur. Is it only when all the planets lying between Rahu and Ketu are facing Retro Rahu and Rahu lies between 1st and 6th house? Is it really a dreaded combination? I request the learned Gurus to throw some light . Thank you in advance, Amar www.astrojyothy.com Kalasarpa dosha: This is another highly feared combination. You will be surprised to know that the ancient classics of astrology have not even mentioned it! Yet it has become one of the most feared doshas, because Kal means death and Sarpa means snake. When all planets are to one side of Rahu and Ketu Kalasarpa Dosha is supposed to be caused. This is considered a very bad yoga which gives rise to misfortunes and is supposed to be a major obstruction to ones progress. This dosha is said to be severe when all planets are within the arc from Rahu to Ketu in their natural motion direction. There are supposed to be 12 types of Kalasarpa doshas, based on the placement of rahu from the lagna to the 12th house. These 12 have been named after 12 fearful sounding snakes: Anant, Kulik, Vasuki, Shankhapal, Padma, Mahapadma, Takshak, Karkataka, Shankhanaad, Patak, Vishakata and Sheshanag. It is not known who cooked up this nonsense, but rest assured that it is none of the Rishis from Parashara to Varahamihira. Obviously some new 20th century "Rishis" of Delhi and U.P!! The latest astro-stunt by the "Pundits" is the introduction of "partial kalasarpa dosha". The basics parameters of this are undefined, so anyone may have it!! A lot of unscrupulous astrologers are scaring people about this dosha and extracting money for the so called remedies. The remedy of course depends and varies according to the financial status of the innocent man! >From practical point of view this is not found to be a hindrance to progress. I have the horoscopes of a lot of people who have this so called dosha and are doing quite well in life. One of the most notable exceptions is the horoscope of Jawaharlal Nehru, the late prime minister of India. If someone can rise to that level with kalasarpa yoga, then its not a bad one really!! www.astrologyforu.com About Kalasarpa Dosham What is Kalasarpa dosha? In any native's chart, the remaining seven houses are in the clutches of Rahu and Ketu is called Kalasarpa dosha.. Savya Kala Sarpa Dosham: >From Rahu to Ketu all the houses are filled it is Savya Kalasarpa Dosham Apasavya Kala Sarpa Dosham >From Ketu to Rahu all the houses are filled, it is called Apasavya Kala Sarpa Dosham. In Astrological science, Rahu is termed as the Head and Ketu is termed as tail of Sarpa. The Vedic pundits terms that the Kalasarpa yogam is most dangerous one in ones life span. In the natal chart from lagna to seventh house if this yoga is there the first half is more miserable and from seventh house to twenth house, the second half of the life is harmful. In the natal chart if other yogas are not there, the native will be jobless; habitituated to bad habits leads miserable life, unmarried. etc., If in the natal chart: 1. From Ravi is placed from Rahu in 8th house it is termed as Sarpa Dosha. 2. From Chandra to 8th house, Rahu or Ketu it is termed as Sarpa Dosha 3. From natives' horoscope, from lagna 6, 7, and 8 houses is Rahu is there it is Sarpa Dosha. 4. From lagna of either Rahu or Ketu are placed in Trokona it is Sarpa dosha. DIFFERENT TYPES OF KALA SARPA YOGAMS 1.From lagna to seventh house the planets are (Ravi,Chandra,Kuja,Budha,Guru,Sukra and Sani) are placed between Rahu and Ketu is know Ananta Kala Sarpa Dosham. EFFECTS: Troubles in family life, and chronic health problems. 2.From Second house to seventh house if these planets are placed it is known as GULIKA KALASARPA DOSHAM EFFECTS: Financial and domestic troubles. 3. From third house to ninth house, it is known as VASUKI KALA SARPA DOSHAM. EFFECTS: Problems with brothers and sisters 4.From Forth house to tenth house, it is known as SANKAPALA KALA SARPA DOSHAM. EFFECTS; Problems with mother, vehicles and at residence. 5. From Fifth house to eleventh house, it is known as PADMAKALA SARPA YOGAM. EFFECTS: Problems with spouse/husband and with children. 6.From Sixth house to twelfth house it is known as MAHA PADMA KALA SARPA DOSHAM. EFFECTS: Health problems, debts, problems with enemies. 7. From seventh house to lagna, it is known as TAKSHAKA KALA SARPA YOGAM. EFFECTS: Loss in business and problems in matrimonial life. 8. From eight house to second house, it is known as KARKOTAKA KALA SARPA YOGAM. EFFECTS: Problems with wife and accidents. 9. From ninth house to third house, it is known as SANKACHOODA KALA SARPA YOGAM. EFFECTS: Problems with father, heavy bad luck etc., 10. From tenth house to fourth house, it is known as GHATAKA KALA SARPA YOGAM. EFFECTS: Problem in business and job fonts. 11. From eleventh house to fifth house, it it known as VISHADHARA KALA SARPA YOGAM. EFFECTS:: Problems in financial business terms. 12. From twenth house to sixth house, it is known as SESHANAGA KALA SARPA YOGAM. EFFECTS: Mounting expenditure and severe problems with enemies - "Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey <yogesh_kumar_75; <vedic astrology> Sunday, February 08, 2004 7:33 AM [vedic astrology] Mu's Response to Kumar's "Bangalore Female" Post > My Response to Kumar's "Bangalore Female" Post > > 8:33 PM 2/7/2004 > > Hi Kumar, > > Just saw this. I will try to respond to your > questions. > > Yes, this girl has Kala Sarpa Yoga. However there is > no need to be unduly alarmed > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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