Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Dear Siva, Regarding Clark, you spoke too soon! :-) I too was watching the news. As you said, he vowed to fight. I quickly re-looked at his daily chart. The case was too clear for a drop out and I honestly could not reconcile. Based on the daily compressed Vimsottari dasa, Mercury dasa was running. Being the lagna lord in D-10 in the 7th house from lagna and 10th from AL, in fiery Sagittarius, Mercury made him interact with people and give a fiery speech. However, Mercury was in marana karaka sthana. There must've been a lot of vacillation and a death-like situation in career came finally (it is bad for career to have lagna lord of D-10 in m.k.s in a daily or annual TP chart). Venus is the planet in 8th house and also the ruler of the day. Exactly when Venus antardasa in Mercury dasa was running (10:43-11:15 pm), Clark made the final decision to end his campaign (soon after the speech). Communications director of Wes Clark announced soon after the speech that Clark made a firm decision to drop out and that he would announce it formally tomorrow at his hometown. So my prediction on Clark also came true. This is my second accurate prediction on a candidate doing poorly and dropping out. Regarding Edwards, I wrote: "Edwards will not do that well in his "backyard", as he likes to call the two southern states. He will do rather weakly." Edwards was expected to win Virginia, a neighboring state of his own state. He called it his "backyard". If you think Edwards' getting half the votes Clark got in Virginia, while losing another southern state to Kerry by 15%, especially after boasting of the southern advantage, is not "rather weak", I'd say you are being harsh in judging my success. I did not say Edwards would be routed. I said that only regarding Clark. I said Edwards would do "rather weakly". I think that came true. Dean reached 30% in Washington this weekend while coming second. Though Edwards was 2nd in both the southern primaries of today, he did not even reach 30% anywhere. Though Edwards put on a brave face, CNN clearly said both Edwards and Clark have been the big losers of today and Kerry the big winner. Regarding Dean, I may have some personal bias. He did not do well, but he did not lose anything like others. He did not compete there. The media started talking about him again today, as the race moves to Wisconsin. He also upped the ante in his attacks. Perhaps that's what Mars does to him on the day as the ruler of the day. I think I did extremely well on Clark and Kerry and quite well on Edwards too. Of course, it still does not prove anything. I intend to continue my work for the rest of the primary season! Dean's annual TA dasa of Mars, the 8th lord in 7th, is getting over tomorrow forenoon. Lagna and 10th lord Mercury dasa is starting then (I am talking about TA dasa of annual TP chart). If the chart I have is accurate, the transformation will start tomorrow. BTW, one word of caution: Having been personally swayed by Dean, I may have exaggerated his case. It may not quite be "charging ahead leaving all behind" etc etc as I wrote earlier. The process of coming back may be slow. Nevertheless, if at all recovery is possible for Dean, the two-month dasa that can bring it is going to be here tomorrow. Let us see what it does to his campaign! The latest opinion poll by a Wisconsin newspaper shows him in distant second. But, he just started running ads there. Let's see... May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Dear PVR-ji & members,> > The results are almost here. Kerry is sweeping both the states with > big margins and Dean is not even in top 3. It wasnt that bad for > John Edwards who is #2 in Virginia and expected to emerge #2 in > Tennesse aswell.> > Looks like common sense prevailed over Jyotish in case of Dean. > Clark is still vowing to fight and not dropping out (holding out for > a running-mate offer?). > > Your Prediction about Kerry is right on though. > > -Siva.> > vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > <pvr@c...> wrote:> > Namaste friends,> > > > I am giving the daily Tithi Pravesha charts (DTPC) of the four > main candidates of US democratic primaries of Feb 10 (tomorrow), my > astrological reasoning and the final judgment.> > > > * * *> > > > (1) John Kerry:> > > > 9 Feb 2004, 9:55 pm (TZ: 6:00 west), 104w59, 39n44> > > > Mercury is the hora lord, i.e. the ruler of the day. He is the > 10th lord in 5th with an exchange with 5th lord Saturn in 10th, in > rasi chart. He is well-placed in 6th (and 2nd from AL) in D-10 too. > It is no doubt another good day.> > > > Bottomline: John Kery will continue to do well.> > > > (2) Howard Dean:> > > > 10 Feb 2004, 7:37 am (TZ: 5:00 west), 74w00, 40n43> > > > Mars is the hora lord, i.e. ruler of the day. In rasi chart, Mars > is in moolatrikona in the 3rd house from lagna and 11th from AL. In > D-10, he is debilitated in the 3rd from lagna and 11th from AL > again. In fact, he has a nice exchange with 3rd lord Moon in 7th.> > > > The latest opinion polls show him doing very poorly, behind Kerry, > Edwards and Clark, placed in single digit percentages. He did not > campaign in either TN or VA. He did not even run ads. Gore, who > endorsed Dean, did NOT promote him in his home state TN. Based on > all these, Dean is not at all expected to do well there in south, > despite coming second in all the 3 states last weekend. However, > some positive and boldening development for Dean is possible on the > day.> > > > Bottomline: Though it is irrational to expect Howard Dean to do > well in TN or VA, the day is a good one for him. It is inexplicable > to me when I try to reconcile astrology with common sense. But there > could be some good news for him on Feb 10 that boldens him.> > > > (3) John Edwards:> > > > 10 Feb 2004, 8:40 pm (TZ: 5:00 west), 82w57, 34n41> > > > [Note: An error of 40 sec in birthtime changes the rising sign in > the daily chart, rendering the prediction below meaningless. I have > not confidently rectified the birthtime. So the following prediction > may be taken with a pinch of salt.]> > > > Jupiter is the hora lord, i.e. ruler of the day. He is the 8th > lord in lagna, just like in Clark's case below. He is in the 3rd > from AL, just like in Clark's case below. However, Jupiter also owns > 5th. He is better placed in D-10 than in Clark's case.> > > > Edwards will not do that well in his "backyard", as he likes to > call the two southern states. He will do rather weakly.> > > > Though Edwards may not publicly admit it, he will seriously wonder > whether he should drop out, after tomorrow. But he may decide to > carry on.> > > > Bottomline: John Edwards will not win either state and will be > disappointed. But he will do better than Clark. He may wonder for a > while whether to carry on and may decide to do so.> > > > (4) Wes Clark:> > > > 10 Feb 2004, 10:10 am (TZ: 5:00 west), 87w39, 41n51> > > > Venus is the hora lord, i.e. ruler of the day. He is the 8th lord > in exaltation in lagna, in rasi chart. He clearly shows > disappointment. Especially, being an exalted benefic in the 3rd from > AL, he shows some kind of resignation or giving up of spirit.> > > > In D-10 also, Venus is the 5th lord in 8th. Showing a setback. > Moreover, lagna lord Mercury is in marana karaka sthana, in D-10.> > > > Though General Clark indicated in a CNN interview this weekend > that he will go all the way to the super Tuesday praimaries of March > 2nd and not drop out, I have strong reasons to suspect that he will > drop out after tomorrow. In any case, tomorrow is likely to be a > disappointing day for General Clark.> > > > Bottomline: Wes Clark will be disappointed in both TN and VA. > He'll be the biggest loser of the day, in terms of the gap between > expectation and outcome. He may even drop out after tomorrow's > results.> > > > * * *> > > > Kerry will keep up his great show, even in the southern states. > Edwards will not repeat his South Carolina magic and will do rather > weakly in his "backyard". I, however, do not expect him to drop out. > Clark, OTOH, will do poorly and may actually drop out, despite his > stand so far that he will carry on in any case. Dean may have some > positive development that boldens him.> > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> > Narasimha> > ----------> > Feb 9, 2004> > 11:30 pm EST> > South Grafton, MA, USA> > ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Dear Venky, Answers to your questions: (1) It is possible to predict beyond April, but I want to wait till a candidate emerges. (2) I am not a numerology expert. BTW, I want to clarify what I said. I was not taking my prediction back or something. However unlikely the media says it is, I still think Howard Dean will soon be back into reckoning and do well. However, I wanted to caution that the comeback may be a slow process over a couple of weeks rather than a one-day bang. All I know from the chart is that Dean ran the worst one-month period of the year (Dec 2003-Dec 2004) during Jan 16-Feb 11, 2004 and that he just started the best period of the year (Feb 11-Apr 7, 2004). Exactly what that means can only be guessed. It must also be kept in mind by impressionable readers that I am not infallible. Even if you saw some excellent predictions by me on the primaries so far, don't let those make you think that I am infallible. I am not. Errors in a chart or deficiencies in my knowledge or experience can make me fail on one chart, while succeeding on some others. I am making predictions using an experimental technique (daily TP charts) just to try it out. Please do not let my predictions make you more or less upbeat than you otherwise would've been! That's a scary proposition to me! I myself am not so confident of my ability. If you are upbeat, it should be because you believe in the guy and are proud to campaign for him and not because of something I said. * * * The daily chart of Feb 17 does look ok for Kerry, honestly speaking. But the daily chart of March 2nd is disastrous for Kerry. The 10th lord Jupiter is in marana karaka sthana in rasi chart and not good in D-10 too. How can I expect Kerry to win big on Super Tuesday, when many hundreds of delegates will be at stake? I will continue to make detailed predictions before each primary, but let me jump ahead and say that Kerry will be terribly disappointed on the super Tuesday, the day when the top two democratic states (CA and NY) go to primaries (assuming it drags on till then)! John Edwards shares the same chart and hora lord is same too, on March 2. Super Tuesday will mostly be a day of doom for both Edwards and Kerry. * * * Answer to Hanna Mac: Daily TP chart (DTPC) is cast everyday when the fraction of tithi left matches the fraction of tithi left at birth. If one was born when 23.5679% of a tithi is left, his/her DTPC is cast everyday when 23.5679% of any tithi is left. The lord of the hora at the time of the chart is the ruler of the day. Answer to Janine has already been given (marana karaka sthana definition). May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha PS: You sent the mail to me privately. I am cc'ing this reply to the list as you indicated you meant to send this to the list. - "venky_pchari" <venky_pchari "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr Wednesday, February 11, 2004 12:59 PM Clark did drop out Siva (Re: PREDICTION: Feb 10 Primaries of US Democrats) > Dear Narasimha, > > NOTE: I tried to post this earlier but it did not show up on the > message list -- probably because I was not a member. I'm a member > now. Let's see if this goes thru. > > > I've been campaigning for Howard Dean since March 2003. I was elated > when I first came across your predictions for Dean. Now, when you > say that it may not be as clear cut (that's how I intepret your > current posting) - I'm not so upbeat as I was a few days back. But > I'm still optimistic. > > In any case, I have a couple of questions. > > 1) Is it possible at this point to predict beyond April, and > 2) How does Numerology fit in with Astrology. > > Thanks > > Venkatesh "Venky" Patrachari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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