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[vedic astrology] Please Guide: Neechabhanga Rajayoga

Resepected Gurus,

I am studying a chart - birth data

DOB 28thJune 1970

Place - Pune India

Can you please educate me if there is a neechabhanga rajayoga here ? Also, how

do we evaluate the power/ extent/ timing of the yoga ? Any pointers to

additional reading about this is appreciated.

Thanks

JaiDeep

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Hello Jay

It is really very good article.

I just have few doubts...

1. Does Nakshtra play role in Cancellation of Debilitation and

Neechabhanga Raja Yogas?

e.g

1. Virgo Lagna Vennus in Lagna Debiltited..

Now If Jup is in Saggi which is lord of exaltation sign(pieces) of

Debiltited venus. also kendra to lagna so neechbhanga rajyoga But

while Jup is in saggi in nakshtra of Venus.. what would be effect

jup being in nakshtra of venus... ?

2. Leo ascendant with mars in lagna and Leo has one pada of nakshtra

of Sun. while Sun is in libra. So Now Lord of rashi where Sun is

exalted is Mars which is in lagna .. So neechbhanga rajyoga but what

are the effect when mars is in nakshtra of sun which debiltated?

2.Does Nodes play any role when planet causing neechbhanga is

asscoiated with nodes.. Say in example 1 Jup causing neechbhanga but

Jup is also associated with Rahu in saggi that to in nakshtra of

venus only?

3.Also what if Node are stationary direct and associating the planet

causing neechbhanga or neechbhanga rajyoga?

Regards

Kalyani

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> Dear JaiDeep,

> You can educate yourself by going to this site www.vedic-

astrology.net

> and reading the document Cancellation of Debilitation and

Neechabhanga Raja Yogas

> under 'yogas etc'.

>

> Regards

> /Jay Weiss

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>

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> JD Vaidya

> Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:40 PM

> [vedic astrology] Please Guide: Neechabhanga Rajayoga

>

> Resepected Gurus,

>

> I am studying a chart - birth data

> DOB 28thJune 1970

> Place - Pune India

>

> Can you please educate me if there is a neechabhanga rajayoga

here ? Also, how do we evaluate the power/ extent/ timing of the

yoga ? Any pointers to additional reading about this is appreciated.

>

> Thanks

> JaiDeep

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The answer is no (as far as I am aware of it).

All the applicable rules are listed in the article.

Regards

/Jay Weiss

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Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:29 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Please Guide: Neechabhanga Rajayoga - reply

> Hello Jay

>

> It is really very good article.

> I just have few doubts...

>

> 1. Does Nakshtra play role in Cancellation of Debilitation and

> Neechabhanga Raja Yogas?

>

> e.g

> 1. Virgo Lagna Vennus in Lagna Debiltited..

> Now If Jup is in Saggi which is lord of exaltation sign(pieces) of

> Debiltited venus. also kendra to lagna so neechbhanga rajyoga But

> while Jup is in saggi in nakshtra of Venus.. what would be effect

> jup being in nakshtra of venus... ?

>

> 2. Leo ascendant with mars in lagna and Leo has one pada of nakshtra

> of Sun. while Sun is in libra. So Now Lord of rashi where Sun is

> exalted is Mars which is in lagna .. So neechbhanga rajyoga but what

> are the effect when mars is in nakshtra of sun which debiltated?

>

> 2.Does Nodes play any role when planet causing neechbhanga is

> asscoiated with nodes.. Say in example 1 Jup causing neechbhanga but

> Jup is also associated with Rahu in saggi that to in nakshtra of

> venus only?

>

> 3.Also what if Node are stationary direct and associating the planet

> causing neechbhanga or neechbhanga rajyoga?

>

> Regards

> Kalyani

>

vedic astrology, "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:

> > Dear JaiDeep,

> > You can educate yourself by going to this site www.vedic-

> astrology.net

> > and reading the document Cancellation of Debilitation and

> Neechabhanga Raja Yogas

> > under 'yogas etc'.

> >

> > Regards

> > /Jay Weiss

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> > JD Vaidya

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:40 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Please Guide: Neechabhanga Rajayoga

> >

> > Resepected Gurus,

> >

> > I am studying a chart - birth data

> > DOB 28thJune 1970

> > Place - Pune India

> >

> > Can you please educate me if there is a neechabhanga rajayoga

> here ? Also, how do we evaluate the power/ extent/ timing of the

> yoga ? Any pointers to additional reading about this is appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> > JaiDeep

> >

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Based on what we've learned here, Jay's unswer is correct, and I also stick to that rule still.

However, also want to mention that in Nadi /I haven't explored enough to make any conclussion/

planets in some Naksatras 'behave as if they were exalted'- one example Mars in Swati..

Any comments?

My 2ct.

Anna

"J.Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote:

The answer is no (as far as I am aware of it).All the applicable rules are

listed in the article.Regards/Jay Weiss-

"astro_learn" <astrolearn (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com>To:

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PM[vedic astrology] Re: Please Guide: Neechabhanga Rajayoga - reply>

Hello Jay> > It is really very good article.> I just have few doubts...> > 1.

Does Nakshtra play role in Cancellation of Debilitation and > Neechabhanga Raja

Yogas?> > e.g> 1. Virgo Lagna Vennus in Lagna Debiltited..> Now If Jup is in

Saggi which is lord of exaltation sign(pieces) of > Debiltited venus. also

kendra to lagna so neechbhanga rajyoga But > while Jup is in saggi in

nakshtra of Venus.. what would be effect > jup being in nakshtra of venus... ?>

> 2. Leo ascendant with mars in lagna and Leo has one pada of nakshtra > of

Sun. while Sun is in libra. So Now Lord of rashi where Sun is > exalted is Mars

which is in lagna .. So neechbhanga rajyoga but what > are the effect when mars

is in nakshtra of sun which debiltated?> > > 2.Does Nodes play any role when

planet causing neechbhanga is > asscoiated with nodes.. Say in example 1 Jup

causing neechbhanga but > Jup is also associated with Rahu in saggi that to in

nakshtra of > venus only?> > 3.Also what if Node are stationary direct and

associating the planet > causing neechbhanga or neechbhanga rajyoga?> > >

Regards> Kalyani> > > > > > > > vedic astrology,

"J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...>

wrote:> > Dear JaiDeep,> > You can educate yourself by going to this site

www.vedic-> astrology.net > > and reading the document Cancellation of

Debilitation and > Neechabhanga Raja Yogas> > under 'yogas etc'.> > > >

Regards> > /Jay Weiss> > http://www.alvicomm.com> >

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JD Vaidya > > vedic astrology > > Thursday,

February 05, 2004 6:40 PM> > [vedic astrology] Please Guide:

Neechabhanga Rajayoga> > > > > > Resepected Gurus,> > > > > > I am studying

a chart - birth data>

> DOB 28thJune 1970> > Place - Pune India> > > > Can you please educate me

if there is a neechabhanga rajayoga > here ? Also, how do we evaluate the power/

extent/ timing of the > yoga ? Any pointers to additional reading about this is

appreciated.> > > > Thanks> > JaiDeep> > > > > >

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Hello Jay , Anna and All members

Thank you Jay and Anna for reply.

1. Can you also give your comments regarding the situation when Rahu

is associated with planet causing neechbhanga/neech bhang rajyoga?

2. Also what of Such Rahu is Stationary direct...?

First of all Since rahu is associated with Planet causing

neechbhanga, does the planet will reduce some power to cause

neechbhanga ?

It has been said that when Rahu Ketu become stationary direct they

become very powerful. So if such powerful rahu is associating with

planet causing neechbhanga.. Will Power of planet causing

neechbhanga will it reduce?

Regards

Kalyani

vedic astrology, 108ar <bona_mente>

wrote:

> Dear Jay and Kalyani,

> Based on what we've learned here, Jay's unswer is correct, and I

also stick to that rule still.

> However, also want to mention that in Nadi /I haven't explored

enough to make any conclussion/

> planets in some Naksatras 'behave as if they were exalted'- one

example Mars in Swati..

> Any comments?

> My 2ct.

> Anna

>

> "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:

> The answer is no (as far as I am aware of it).

> All the applicable rules are listed in the article.

>

> Regards

> /Jay Weiss

>

> -

> "astro_learn" <astrolearn@i...>

> <vedic astrology>

> Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:29 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Please Guide: Neechabhanga

Rajayoga - reply

>

> > Hello Jay

> >

> > It is really very good article.

> > I just have few doubts...

> >

> > 1. Does Nakshtra play role in Cancellation of Debilitation and

> > Neechabhanga Raja Yogas?

> >

> > e.g

> > 1. Virgo Lagna Vennus in Lagna Debiltited..

> > Now If Jup is in Saggi which is lord of exaltation sign(pieces)

of

> > Debiltited venus. also kendra to lagna so neechbhanga rajyoga

But

> > while Jup is in saggi in nakshtra of Venus.. what would be

effect

> > jup being in nakshtra of venus... ?

> >

> > 2. Leo ascendant with mars in lagna and Leo has one pada of

nakshtra

> > of Sun. while Sun is in libra. So Now Lord of rashi where Sun is

> > exalted is Mars which is in lagna .. So neechbhanga rajyoga but

what

> > are the effect when mars is in nakshtra of sun which debiltated?

> >

> > 2.Does Nodes play any role when planet causing neechbhanga is

> > asscoiated with nodes.. Say in example 1 Jup causing neechbhanga

but

> > Jup is also associated with Rahu in saggi that to in nakshtra of

> > venus only?

> >

> > 3.Also what if Node are stationary direct and associating the

planet

> > causing neechbhanga or neechbhanga rajyoga?

> >

> > Regards

> > Kalyani

> >

> > vedic astrology, "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...>

wrote:

> > > Dear JaiDeep,

> > > You can educate yourself by going to this site www.vedic-

> > astrology.net

> > > and reading the document Cancellation of Debilitation and

> > Neechabhanga Raja Yogas

> > > under 'yogas etc'.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > /Jay Weiss

> > > http://www.alvicomm.com

> > > http://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm

> > >

> > > -

> > > JD Vaidya

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:40 PM

> > > [vedic astrology] Please Guide: Neechabhanga

Rajayoga

> > >

> > > Resepected Gurus,

> > >

> > > I am studying a chart - birth data

> > > DOB 28thJune 1970

> > > Place - Pune India

> > >

> > > Can you please educate me if there is a neechabhanga

rajayoga

> > here ? Also, how do we evaluate the power/ extent/ timing of the

> > yoga ? Any pointers to additional reading about this is

appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > JaiDeep

> > >

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I am glad if I helped. I wish I could answer your questions- but am afraid it's

impossible- and not serious to analyze /any/ situation out of context-

Rahu tends to take power/form/manifestations from the planet it conjoins, aspects, and

that also DEPENDS...on lots of factors- as in most cases when multiple variables

have to be taken into account- how would that affect this specific situation-

depends, again, on the entire chart.

Some opine that Rahu/Ketu are more powerful when Stationary direct/

retrograde... Most think its not relevant- since they are R most of the time.

I'd suggest that you stick to basic first- 'till you master it-

Good Luck,

Annaastro_learn <astrolearn (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com> wrote:

Hello Jay , Anna and All members Thank you Jay and Anna for reply.1. Can you

also give your comments regarding the situation when Rahu is associated with

planet causing neechbhanga/neech bhang rajyoga?2. Also what of Such Rahu is

Stationary direct...?First of all Since rahu is associated with Planet causing

neechbhanga, does the planet will reduce some power to cause neechbhanga ?It

has been said that when Rahu Ketu become stationary direct they become very

powerful. So if such powerful rahu is associating with planet causing

neechbhanga.. Will Power of planet causing neechbhanga will it reduce?

RegardsKalyani vedic astrology, 108ar <bona_mente>

wrote:> Dear Jay and Kalyani,> Based on what we've learned here, Jay's unswer

is

correct, and I also stick to that rule still.> However, also want to mention

that in Nadi /I haven't explored enough to make any conclussion/> planets in

some Naksatras 'behave as if they were exalted'- one example Mars in Swati..>

Any comments?> My 2ct.> Anna> > > "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:> The answer is

no (as far as I am aware of it).> All the applicable rules are listed in the

article.> > Regards> /Jay Weiss> > - >

"astro_learn" <astrolearn@i...>> <vedic astrology>> Sent:

Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:29 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: Please

Guide: Neechabhanga Rajayoga - reply> > > > Hello Jay> > > > It is really very

good article.> > I just have few doubts...> > > > 1. Does

Nakshtra play role in Cancellation of Debilitation and > > Neechabhanga Raja

Yogas?> > > > e.g> > 1. Virgo Lagna Vennus in Lagna Debiltited..> > Now If Jup

is in Saggi which is lord of exaltation sign(pieces) of > > Debiltited venus.

also kendra to lagna so neechbhanga rajyoga But > > while Jup is in saggi in

nakshtra of Venus.. what would be effect > > jup being in nakshtra of venus...

?> > > > 2. Leo ascendant with mars in lagna and Leo has one pada of nakshtra >

> of Sun. while Sun is in libra. So Now Lord of rashi where Sun is > > exalted

is Mars which is in lagna .. So neechbhanga rajyoga but what > > are the effect

when mars is in nakshtra of sun which debiltated?> > > > > > 2.Does Nodes play

any role when planet causing neechbhanga is > > asscoiated with nodes.. Say in

example 1 Jup

causing neechbhanga but > > Jup is also associated with Rahu in saggi that to in

nakshtra of > > venus only?> > > > 3.Also what if Node are stationary direct and

associating the planet > > causing neechbhanga or neechbhanga rajyoga?> > > > >

> Regards> > Kalyani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:> > > Dear

JaiDeep,> > > You can educate yourself by going to this site www.vedic-> >

astrology.net > > > and reading the document Cancellation of Debilitation and >

> Neechabhanga Raja Yogas> > > under 'yogas etc'.> > > > > > Regards> > > /Jay

Weiss> > > http://www.alvicomm.com> > > http://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm> > >

> > > - > > > JD Vaidya > > > To:

vedic astrology > > > Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:40

PM> > > [vedic astrology] Please Guide: Neechabhanga Rajayoga> > > >

> > > > > Resepected Gurus,> > > > > > > > > I am studying a chart - birth

data> > > DOB 28thJune 1970> > > Place - Pune India> > > > > > Can you

please educate me if there is a neechabhanga rajayoga > > here ? Also, how do

we evaluate the power/ extent/ timing

of the > > yoga ? Any pointers to additional reading about this is appreciated.>

> > > > > Thanks> > > JaiDeep> > > > > > > > >

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Anna / Kalyani,

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Whenever there is any conjunction, there

is a exchange of roles of the planets involved. This

is most apparent in the case of Rahu/ Ketu as they give results based on the associations etc.

This is why, whenever, the nodes conjoin any yogakaraka,

the periods of the nodes become excellent, however the

period of the yogakaraka becomes difficult. So the answer

to your querry is that the nodes shall cause the neechabhanga

of the planet concerned and the results of the neecha

planet shall be highly manifested in the period of Rahu

and the sub-period of the neecha planet.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">However, as Anna says, we must take other variables

such as lordship, aspect, conjunction, disposition etc.

before pronouncing the final results.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">The exact motion of the nodes viz., stationary,

direct etc. are inconsequential.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Best Wishes

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Sarajit

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">

108ar

[bona_mente ]

Saturday, February 07, 2004

9:37 AM

To:

Re: [vedic astrology] Re:

Please Guide: Neechabhanga Rajayoga - reply

Dear Kalyani,

I am glad if I helped. I wish I could answer your

questions- but am afraid it's impossible- and not serious to analyze /any/

situation out of context-

Rahu tends to take power/form/manifestations from the

planet it conjoins, aspects, and

that also DEPENDS...on lots of factors- as in

most cases when multiple variables have to be taken into account- how would

that affect this specific situation- depends,

again, on the entire chart.

Some opine that Rahu/Ketu are more powerful when

Stationary direct/ retrograde... Most think its not relevant- since they are R

most of the time.

I'd suggest that you stick to basic first-

'till you master it-

Good Luck,

Anna

astro_learn

<astrolearn (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com> wrote:

margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">

12.0pt;margin-left:.5in">

Hello Jay , Anna and All members

Thank you Jay and Anna for reply.

1. Can you also give your comments regarding the

situation when Rahu

is associated with planet causing

neechbhanga/neech bhang rajyoga?

2. Also what of Such Rahu is Stationary direct...?

First of all Since rahu is associated with Planet

causing

neechbhanga, does the planet will reduce

some power to cause

neechbhanga ?

It has been said that when Rahu Ketu become

stationary direct they

become very powerful. So if such powerful rahu is

associating with

planet causing neechbhanga.. Will Power of planet

causing

neechbhanga will it reduce?

Regards

Kalyani

vedic astrology, 108ar

<bona_mente>

wrote:

> Dear Jay and Kalyani,

> Based on what we've learned here, Jay's

unswer is correct, and I

also stick to that rule still.

> However, also want to mention that in Nadi /I

haven't explored

enough to make any conclussion/

> planets in some Naksatras 'behave as if they

were exalted'- one

example Mars in Swati..

> Any comments?

> My 2ct.

> Anna

>

> "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:

> The answer is no (as far as I am aware of

it).

> All the applicable rules are listed in the

article.

>

> Regards

> /Jay Weiss

>

> -

> "astro_learn"

<astrolearn@i...>

> <vedic astrology>

> Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:29 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Please Guide:

Neechabhanga

Rajayoga - reply

>

> > Hello Jay

> >

> > It is really very good article.

> > I just have few doubts...

> >

> > 1. Does Nakshtra play role in

Cancellation of Debilitation and

> > Neechabhanga Raja Yogas?

> >

> > e.g

> > 1. Virgo Lagna Vennus in Lagna

Debiltited..

> > Now If Jup is in Saggi which is lord of

exaltation sign(pieces)

of

> > Debiltited venus. also kendra to lagna

so neechbhanga rajyoga

But

> > while Jup is in saggi in nakshtra of

Venus.. what would be

effect

> > jup being in nakshtra of venus... ?

> >

> > 2. Leo ascendant with mars in lagna and

Leo has one pada of

nakshtra

> > of Sun. while Sun is in libra. So Now

Lord of rashi where Sun is

> > exalted is Mars which is in lagna .. So

neechbhanga rajyoga but

what

> > are the effect when mars is in nakshtra

of sun which debiltated?

> >

> > 2.Does Nodes play any role when planet

causing neechbhanga is

> > asscoiated with nodes.. Say in example 1

Jup causing neechbhanga

but

> > Jup is also associated with Rahu in

saggi that to in nakshtra of

> > venus only?

> >

> > 3.Also what if Node are stationary

direct and associating the

planet

> > causing neechbhanga or neechbhanga

rajyoga?

> >

> > Regards

> > Kalyani

> >

> > vedic astrology,

"J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...>

wrote:

> > > Dear JaiDeep,

> > > You can educate yourself by going

to this site www.vedic-

> > astrology.net

> > > and reading the document

Cancellation of Debilitation and

> > Neechabhanga Raja Yogas

> > > under 'yogas etc'.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > /Jay Weiss

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> > > Thursday,

February 05, 2004 6:40 PM

> > > Subject:

[vedic astrology] Please Guide: Neechabhanga

Rajayoga

> > >

> > > Resepected Gurus,

> > >

> > > I am studying a chart -

birth data

> > > DOB 28thJune 1970

> > > Place - Pune India

> > >

> > > Can you please educate

me if there is a neechabhanga

rajayoga

> > here ? Also, how do we evaluate the

power/ extent/ timing of the

> > yoga ? Any pointers to additional

reading about this is

appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > JaiDeep

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February 6, 2004

Dear Sarajit,

Thanks for this post. My understanding of Kalayani Q was that he was rightfully

concerned about the planet causing NBRY /due to its conj. with Rahu/-

Rahu does take power from planet it conjoins, as you illustrated by YK/with

Rahu/ planetary period-

however how that would manifest really depends on many factors- answer to

NBpower of a planet- original Kalayani question- is that it won't be reduced,

but taken over by Rahu- but that may not necessarily /badly/affect the planet

in question, otherwise.

And before seeing what else is in stake there in the chart, I didn't want to run

the risk of making new student worried, with as you said, final results,

manifestations.

Sarajit, I've seen full-blown sarpa yoga, involving Mars, Sa, Rahu, and Moon

even- and intervening factors /Ju, although Lord of 8th-functional malefic,

+Naksatras role/, which seem saving the situation,

and positive results in Rahu period /which squares Mars, Moon, Sa/.

And Yes, I tend to be more careful, than necessary, perhaps.

It's good for at least that reason that we hear more from you!

Warmest wishes,

Anna

Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|| Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Anna / Kalyani,

Whenever there is any conjunction, there is a exchange of roles of the planets

involved. This is most apparent in the case of Rahu/ Ketu as they give results

based on the associations etc. This is why, whenever, the nodes conjoin any

yogakaraka, the periods of the nodes become excellent, however the period of

the yogakaraka becomes difficult. So the answer to your querry is that the

nodes shall cause the neechabhanga of the planet concerned and the results of

the neecha planet shall be highly manifested in the period of Rahu and the

sub-period of the neecha planet.

However, as Anna says, we must take other variables such as lordship, aspect,

conjunction, disposition etc. before pronouncing the final results.

The exact motion of the nodes viz., stationary, direct etc. are inconsequential.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

108ar [bona_mente ] Sent:

Saturday, February 07, 2004 9:37 AMvedic astrologySubject:

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please Guide: Neechabhanga Rajayoga - reply

Dear Kalyani,

I am glad if I helped. I wish I could answer your questions- but am afraid it's

impossible- and not serious to analyze /any/ situation out of context-

Rahu tends to take power/form/manifestations from the planet it conjoins, aspects, and

that also DEPENDS...on lots of factors- as in most cases when multiple variables

have to be taken into account- how would that affect this specific situation-

depends, again, on the entire chart.

Some opine that Rahu/Ketu are more powerful when Stationary direct/

retrograde... Most think its not relevant- since they are R most of the time.

I'd suggest that you stick to basic first- 'till you master it-

Good Luck,

Annaastro_learn <astrolearn (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com> wrote:

Hello Jay , Anna and All members Thank you Jay and Anna for reply.1. Can you

also give your comments regarding the situation when Rahu is associated with

planet causing neechbhanga/neech bhang rajyoga?2. Also what of Such Rahu is

Stationary direct...?First of all Since rahu is associated with Planet causing

neechbhanga, does the planet will reduce some power to cause neechbhanga ?

New">It has been said that when Rahu Ketu become stationary direct they become

very powerful. So if such powerful rahu is associating with planet causing

neechbhanga.. Will Power of planet causing neechbhanga will it reduce?

RegardsKalyani vedic astrology, 108ar <bona_mente>

wrote:> Dear Jay and Kalyani,> Based on what we've learned here, Jay's unswer

is correct, and I also stick to that rule still.> However, also want to mention

that

in Nadi /I haven't explored enough to make any conclussion/> planets in some

Naksatras 'behave as if they were exalted'- one example Mars in Swati..> Any

comments?> My 2ct.> Anna> > > "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:> The answer is no

(as far as I am aware of it).> All the applicable rules are listed in the

article.> > Regards

New">> /Jay Weiss> > - > "astro_learn"

<astrolearn@i...>> <vedic astrology>> Thursday,

February 05, 2004 11:29 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: Please Guide:

Neechabhanga Rajayoga - reply> > > > Hello Jay> > > > It is really very good

article.> > I just have few

doubts...> > > > 1. Does Nakshtra play role in Cancellation of Debilitation and

> > Neechabhanga Raja Yogas?> > > > e.g> > 1. Virgo Lagna Vennus in Lagna

Debiltited..> > Now If Jup is in Saggi which is lord of exaltation sign(pieces)

of > > Debiltited venus. also kendra to lagna so neechbhanga rajyoga But > >

while Jup is in saggi in nakshtra of Venus.. what would be effect

> > jup being in nakshtra of venus... ?> > > > 2. Leo ascendant with mars in

lagna and Leo has one pada of nakshtra > > of Sun. while Sun is in libra. So

Now Lord of rashi where Sun is > > exalted is Mars which is in lagna .. So

neechbhanga rajyoga but what > > are the effect when mars is in nakshtra of sun

which debiltated?> > > > > > 2.Does Nodes play any role when planet causing

neechbhanga is

New">> > asscoiated with nodes.. Say in example 1 Jup causing neechbhanga but >

> Jup is also associated with Rahu in saggi that to in nakshtra of > > venus

only?> > > > 3.Also what if Node are stationary direct and associating the

planet > > causing neechbhanga or neechbhanga rajyoga?> > > > > > Regards> >

Kalyani> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "J.Weiss"

<jayhw@t...> wrote:> > > Dear JaiDeep,> > > You can educate yourself by going

to this site www.vedic-> > astrology.net > > > and reading the document

Cancellation of Debilitation and > > Neechabhanga Raja Yogas> > > under 'yogas

etc'.> > > > > > Regards> > > /Jay Weiss> > > http://www.alvicomm.com> > >

http://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm> > > > > > - >

> > JD Vaidya > > > vedic astrology > > > Sent:

Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:40 PM> >

> [vedic astrology] Please Guide: Neechabhanga Rajayoga> > > > > > >

> > Resepected Gurus,> > > > > > > > > I am studying a chart - birth data>

> > DOB 28thJune 1970> > > Place - Pune India> > > > > > Can you please

educate me if there is a neechabhanga rajayoga

> > here ? Also, how do we evaluate the power/ extent/ timing of the > > yoga ?

Any pointers to additional reading about this is appreciated.> > > > > >

Thanks> > > JaiDeep> > > > > > > > >

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Hello

Yes anna is abosultely right.

My question is .. Does Association with Rahu makes the Planet causing

neechbhanga reduce his ability to cause neechbhanga.

sample Chart

14 Nov 1972

4.22 am

pune india

Virgo Ascendant

Rahu and Ketu stationary in 4-10 axis.

2 planets debilited..

1. Sun - Sun is with Mars in 2nd house.. Lord of Sun's exaltation

rashi is mars and Mars with with Debilitaed Sun also Kendra(10th from

moon) Hence Mars causes Neechbhanga Rajyoga

2. Venus- Debili in Virgo in lagna.

Exaltaton lord for Venus is Jup is in kendra from Venus as well as

Lagna and in own house. so NBRY but Rahu is also there with Jup

(Planet Causing NBRY) So Will power of Jup causing Neechbhanga will

reduce due to RAhu being with Jup..

Also Since Rahu being stationary direct .. some statinonary direct

planet is very powerful so will it not affect jup much or it will

harm jup more..

I feel as motion of the nodes viz., stationary, direct etc. are

important for considering general analysis of horoscope, they are

also also important when they involved in NBRY/exchange yoga or any

other yogas in astrology .. More study /reasearch is required on

effects of Nodes and thier motions on not only NBRY but also when

Planet are in various yogas and Nodes involved in those yogas.

But I agree with anna. Right now I should stick to principles and

keep them in mind as I am a very beginner level student/Learner.

Regards

Kalyani

vedic astrology, 108ar <bona_mente> wrote:

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> Thanks for this post. My understanding of Kalayani Q was that he

was rightfully concerned about the planet causing NBRY /due to its

conj. with Rahu/-

>

> Rahu does take power from planet it conjoins, as you illustrated by

YK/with Rahu/ planetary period-

> however how that would manifest really depends on many factors-

answer to NBpower of a planet- original Kalayani question- is that it

won't be reduced, but taken over by Rahu- but that may not

necessarily /badly/affect the planet in question, otherwise.

> And before seeing what else is in stake there in the chart, I

didn't want to run the risk of making new student worried, with as

you said, final results, manifestations.

>

> Sarajit, I've seen full-blown sarpa yoga, involving Mars, Sa, Rahu,

and Moon even- and intervening factors /Ju, although Lord of 8th-

functional malefic, +Naksatras role/, which seem saving the

situation,

> and positive results in Rahu period /which squares Mars, Moon, Sa/.

> And Yes, I tend to be more careful, than necessary, perhaps.

>

> It's good for at least that reason that we hear more from you!

> Warmest wishes,

> Anna

>

> Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote:

>

> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}

w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Anna / Kalyani,

>

> Whenever there is any conjunction, there is a exchange of roles of

the planets involved. This is most apparent in the case of Rahu/ Ketu

as they give results based on the associations etc. This is why,

whenever, the nodes conjoin any yogakaraka, the periods of the nodes

become excellent, however the period of the yogakaraka becomes

difficult. So the answer to your querry is that the nodes shall cause

the neechabhanga of the planet concerned and the results of the

neecha planet shall be highly manifested in the period of Rahu and

the sub-period of the neecha planet.

>

> However, as Anna says, we must take other variables such as

lordship, aspect, conjunction, disposition etc. before pronouncing

the final results.

>

> The exact motion of the nodes viz., stationary, direct etc. are

inconsequential.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Sarajit

>

> 108ar [bona_mente]

> Saturday, February 07, 2004 9:37 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please Guide: Neechabhanga

Rajayoga - reply

>

> Dear Kalyani,

>

> I am glad if I helped. I wish I could answer your questions- but am

afraid it's impossible- and not serious to analyze /any/ situation

out of context-

>

> Rahu tends to take power/form/manifestations from the planet it

conjoins, aspects, and

>

> that also DEPENDS...on lots of factors- as in most cases when

multiple variables have to be taken into account- how would that

affect this specific situation- depends, again, on the entire chart.

>

> Some opine that Rahu/Ketu are more powerful when Stationary

direct/ retrograde... Most think its not relevant- since they are R

most of the time.

>

> I'd suggest that you stick to basic first- 'till you master it-

>

> Good Luck,

>

> Anna

>

> astro_learn <astrolearn@i...> wrote:

>

> Hello Jay , Anna and All members

>

> Thank you Jay and Anna for reply.

>

> 1. Can you also give your comments regarding the situation when

Rahu

> is associated with planet causing neechbhanga/neech bhang rajyoga?

>

> 2. Also what of Such Rahu is Stationary direct...?

>

> First of all Since rahu is associated with Planet causing

> neechbhanga, does the planet will reduce some power to cause

> neechbhanga ?

>

> It has been said that when Rahu Ketu become stationary direct they

> become very powerful. So if such powerful rahu is associating with

> planet causing neechbhanga.. Will Power of planet causing

> neechbhanga will it reduce?

>

> Regards

> Kalyani

>

> vedic astrology, 108ar <bona_mente>

> wrote:

> > Dear Jay and Kalyani,

> > Based on what we've learned here, Jay's unswer is correct, and I

> also stick to that rule still.

> > However, also want to mention that in Nadi /I haven't explored

> enough to make any conclussion/

> > planets in some Naksatras 'behave as if they were exalted'- one

> example Mars in Swati..

> > Any comments?

> > My 2ct.

> > Anna

> >

> > "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:

> > The answer is no (as far as I am aware of it).

> > All the applicable rules are listed in the article.

> >

> > Regards

> > /Jay Weiss

> >

> > -

> > "astro_learn" <astrolearn@i...>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:29 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Please Guide: Neechabhanga

> Rajayoga - reply

> >

> > > Hello Jay

> > >

> > > It is really very good article.

> > > I just have few doubts...

> > >

> > > 1. Does Nakshtra play role in Cancellation of Debilitation and

> > > Neechabhanga Raja Yogas?

> > >

> > > e.g

> > > 1. Virgo Lagna Vennus in Lagna Debiltited..

> > > Now If Jup is in Saggi which is lord of exaltation sign(pieces)

> of

> > > Debiltited venus. also kendra to lagna so neechbhanga rajyoga

> But

> > > while Jup is in saggi in nakshtra of Venus.. what would be

> effect

> > > jup being in nakshtra of venus... ?

> > >

> > > 2. Leo ascendant with mars in lagna and Leo has one pada of

> nakshtra

> > > of Sun. while Sun is in libra. So Now Lord of rashi where Sun

is

> > > exalted is Mars which is in lagna .. So neechbhanga rajyoga but

> what

> > > are the effect when mars is in nakshtra of sun which debiltated?

> > >

> > > 2.Does Nodes play any role when planet causing neechbhanga is

> > > asscoiated with nodes.. Say in example 1 Jup causing

neechbhanga

> but

> > > Jup is also associated with Rahu in saggi that to in nakshtra

of

> > > venus only?

> > >

> > > 3.Also what if Node are stationary direct and associating the

> planet

> > > causing neechbhanga or neechbhanga rajyoga?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kalyani

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...>

> wrote:

> > > > Dear JaiDeep,

> > > > You can educate yourself by going to this site www.vedic-

> > > astrology.net

> > > > and reading the document Cancellation of Debilitation and

> > > Neechabhanga Raja Yogas

> > > > under 'yogas etc'.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > /Jay Weiss

> > > > http://www.alvicomm.com

> > > > http://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > JD Vaidya

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:40 PM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Please Guide: Neechabhanga

> Rajayoga

> > > >

> > > > Resepected Gurus,

> > > >

> > > > I am studying a chart - birth data

> > > > DOB 28thJune 1970

> > > > Place - Pune India

> > > >

> > > > Can you please educate me if there is a neechabhanga

> rajayoga

> > > here ? Also, how do we evaluate the power/ extent/ timing of

the

> > > yoga ? Any pointers to additional reading about this is

> appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > JaiDeep

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February 7, 2004

I had a look at your chart /didn't have righ Lo and La for Puni, India. couldn't

do the chart in more details. would you please provide the ifo, or better yet,

attach the chart?

What Sarajit wrote about ia absolutelly applicable here-

Rahu will take over the role of Ju.Since the planet cancelling deb. brings rise

in life, usually /MBRY is RY after all!/, it would be Rahu to bring that, due

to its conjunction with Ju, and not Ju /in their periods as Sarajit mentioned/

The answer to your question is that cancellation will not be reduced due to this

fact, just modified. Ju is its moolatrikona sign, thus strong, so Rahu will get

lots of empowerment

to do good, in affairs denoted by deb. planet itself, in particular.

NBRY does exist, as well as an additional cancelation of debility of a weaker

variety, due to the fact that Ve is in lagna/an angle itself/

Period of a planet cancelling the debility will be favourable, while the period

of deb planet will be less so- but not as troublesome bcs Venus is in Lagna.

JU is also Lord of 7th and 4th H- but let it be your second 'research'

I hope this piece of advice will help you in your study, and not discourage you!.

Wishing you all the success,

Anna

astro_learn <astrolearn (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com> wrote:

Hello Yes anna is abosultely right.My question is .. Does Association with Rahu

makes the Planet causing neechbhanga reduce his ability to cause

neechbhanga.sample Chart14 Nov 19724.22 ampune indiaVirgo Ascendant Rahu and

Ketu stationary in 4-10 axis.2 planets debilited..1. Sun - Sun is with Mars in

2nd house.. Lord of Sun's exaltation rashi is mars and Mars with with

Debilitaed Sun also Kendra(10th from moon) Hence Mars causes Neechbhanga

Rajyoga2. Venus- Debili in Virgo in lagna.Exaltaton lord for Venus is Jup is in

kendra from Venus as well as Lagna and in own house. so NBRY but Rahu is also

there with Jup (Planet Causing NBRY) So Will power of Jup causing Neechbhanga

will reduce due to RAhu being with Jup..Also Since Rahu being stationary direct

... some statinonary direct

planet is very powerful so will it not affect jup much or it will harm jup

more..I feel as motion of the nodes viz., stationary, direct etc. are

important for considering general analysis of horoscope, they are also also

important when they involved in NBRY/exchange yoga or any other yogas in

astrology .. More study /reasearch is required on effects of Nodes and thier

motions on not only NBRY but also when Planet are in various yogas and Nodes

involved in those yogas.But I agree with anna. Right now I should stick to

principles and keep them in mind as I am a very beginner level

student/Learner.RegardsKalyanivedic astrology, 108ar

<bona_mente> wrote:> Dear Sarajit,> > Thanks for this post. My

understanding of Kalayani Q was that he was rightfully concerned about the

planet causing NBRY /due to its

conj. with Rahu/- > > Rahu does take power from planet it conjoins, as you

illustrated by YK/with Rahu/ planetary period- > however how that would

manifest really depends on many factors- answer to NBpower of a planet-

original Kalayani question- is that it won't be reduced, but taken over by

Rahu- but that may not necessarily /badly/affect the planet in question,

otherwise.> And before seeing what else is in stake there in the chart, I

didn't want to run the risk of making new student worried, with as you said,

final results, manifestations.> > Sarajit, I've seen full-blown sarpa yoga,

involving Mars, Sa, Rahu, and Moon even- and intervening factors /Ju, although

Lord of 8th-functional malefic, +Naksatras role/, which seem saving the

situation, > and positive results in Rahu period /which squares Mars, Moon,

Sa/. > And Yes, I tend to be more careful, than necessary, perhaps.

> > It's good for at least that reason that we hear more from you!> Warmest

wishes,> Anna> > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit@s...> wrote:> > > v\:*

{behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}w\:*

{behavior:url(#default#VML);}.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}> || Jaya

Jagannath ||> Dear Anna / Kalyani,> > > > Whenever there is any conjunction,

there is a exchange of roles of the planets involved. This is most apparent in

the case of Rahu/ Ketu as they give results based on the associations etc. This

is why, whenever, the nodes conjoin any yogakaraka, the periods of the nodes

become excellent, however the period of the yogakaraka becomes difficult. So

the answer to your querry is that the nodes shall cause the neechabhanga of the

planet concerned and the results of the neecha planet shall be highly manifested

in the

period of Rahu and the sub-period of the neecha planet.> > > > However, as Anna

says, we must take other variables such as lordship, aspect, conjunction,

disposition etc. before pronouncing the final results. > > > > The exact

motion of the nodes viz., stationary, direct etc. are inconsequential.> > > >

Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > > 108ar

[bona_mente] > Saturday, February 07, 2004 9:37 AM> To:

vedic astrology> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Please

Guide: Neechabhanga Rajayoga - reply> > > > Dear Kalyani,> > > I am glad if I

helped. I wish I could answer your questions- but am afraid it's impossible-

and not serious to analyze /any/ situation out of

context- > > > Rahu tends to take power/form/manifestations from the planet it

conjoins, aspects, and> > > that also DEPENDS...on lots of factors- as in most

cases when multiple variables have to be taken into account- how would that

affect this specific situation- depends, again, on the entire chart.> > > > >

> Some opine that Rahu/Ketu are more powerful when Stationary direct/

retrograde... Most think its not relevant- since they are R most of the time.>

> > I'd suggest that you stick to basic first- 'till you master it- > > > Good

Luck,> > > Anna> > astro_learn <astrolearn@i...> wrote:> > > > Hello Jay , Anna

and All members > > Thank you Jay and Anna for reply.> > 1. Can you also give

your comments regarding the situation when

Rahu > is associated with planet causing neechbhanga/neech bhang rajyoga?> > 2.

Also what of Such Rahu is Stationary direct...?> > First of all Since rahu is

associated with Planet causing > neechbhanga, does the planet will reduce some

power to cause > neechbhanga ?> > It has been said that when Rahu Ketu become

stationary direct they > become very powerful. So if such powerful rahu is

associating with > planet causing neechbhanga.. Will Power of planet causing >

neechbhanga will it reduce? > > > > Regards> Kalyani > > > --- In

vedic astrology, 108ar <bona_mente> > wrote:> > Dear Jay

and Kalyani,> > Based on what we've learned here, Jay's unswer is correct, and

I > also stick to that rule still.> > However, also want to mention that in

Nadi /I haven't explored

> enough to make any conclussion/> > planets in some Naksatras 'behave as if

they were exalted'- one > example Mars in Swati..> > Any comments?> > My 2ct.>

> Anna> > > > > > "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote:> > The answer is no (as far as

I am aware of it).> > All the applicable rules are listed in the article.> > >

> Regards> > /Jay Weiss> > > > - > >

"astro_learn" <astrolearn@i...>> > <vedic astrology>> >

Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:29 PM> > [vedic astrology] Re:

Please Guide: Neechabhanga > Rajayoga - reply> > > > > > > Hello Jay> > > > > >

It is really very good article.> > > I just have few doubts...> > >

> > > 1. Does Nakshtra play role in Cancellation of Debilitation and > > >

Neechabhanga Raja Yogas?> > > > > > e.g> > > 1. Virgo Lagna Vennus in Lagna

Debiltited..> > > Now If Jup is in Saggi which is lord of exaltation

sign(pieces) > of > > > Debiltited venus. also kendra to lagna so neechbhanga

rajyoga > But > > > while Jup is in saggi in nakshtra of Venus.. what would be

> effect > > > jup being in nakshtra of venus... ?> > > > > > 2. Leo ascendant

with mars in lagna and Leo has one pada of > nakshtra > > > of Sun. while Sun

is in libra. So Now Lord of rashi where Sun is > > > exalted is Mars which is

in lagna .. So neechbhanga rajyoga but > what > > > are the effect when mars is

in nakshtra of sun which debiltated?> > > > > >

> > > 2.Does Nodes play any role when planet causing neechbhanga is > > >

asscoiated with nodes.. Say in example 1 Jup causing neechbhanga > but > > >

Jup is also associated with Rahu in saggi that to in nakshtra of > > > venus

only?> > > > > > 3.Also what if Node are stationary direct and associating the

> planet > > > causing neechbhanga or neechbhanga rajyoga?> > > > > > > > >

Regards> > > Kalyani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> > wrote:> > > > Dear

JaiDeep,> > > > You can educate yourself by going to this site www.vedic-> > >

astrology.net > > > > and reading

the document Cancellation of Debilitation and > > > Neechabhanga Raja Yogas> > >

> under 'yogas etc'.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > /Jay Weiss> > > >

http://www.alvicomm.com> > > > http://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm> > > > > > >

> - > > > > JD Vaidya > > > > To:

vedic astrology > > > > Thursday, February 05, 2004

6:40 PM> > > > [vedic astrology] Please Guide: Neechabhanga >

Rajayoga> > > > > > > > > > > > Resepected Gurus,> > > > > > > > > > > > I

am studying a chart - birth data> > > > DOB 28thJune 1970> > > > Place -

Pune India> > > > > > > > Can you please educate me if there is a

neechabhanga > rajayoga > > > here ? Also, how do we evaluate the power/

extent/ timing of the > > > yoga ? Any pointers to additional reading about

this is > appreciated.> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > JaiDeep> > > > > > > >

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