Good /bad karma?Shad-ripus enemies within and without thread

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Hare Krishna

Dear Jyotisha Friends,

What I would like,

How to use D-6 to "define" our enemies , our debts etc.

AND also HOW to USe D-30 to SHOW WHICH SHAD_RIPUS and which

types of bad karmas we will generate by ACTING on them,,

How do tell which good and bad karmas we are creating in life..

Also some person might , steal or kill , or whatever at some point

in life and then repent and lead a relatively "pure" life..

Anybody have and wisdom and charts where in they can use D-6 and D-

30 and show it in action?

I think every astrologer should be aware of their own flaws, and

also be aware of their "enemies". No one usually wants to get into

it,they'd rather focus on their raja and dhana yogas...

When we analyze a chart it is also nice to gently guide the native

to recognize their problems so that they can have some self

realizations if you want to call it that.

Narasimha had done some research on this awhile back, unfortunely i

cant find the post , otherwise id repost it..

If any of you has some realizations on this id love to hear them.

Also how it all ties in to D-60 ..etc

With best regards,

lakshmi kary

Was this discussed on east coast work shops.?

 

 

vedic astrology, "venkatarama_sastry"

<venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> Dear Hari,

>

> Such a nice name, Hari. As Narasimha once remarked, a name with a

> multitude of beautiful meanings, all designed to turn your mind to

> one form of the Lord after another.

>

> Interesting questions. My interepretation of the Hindu custom of

> cremation is that this has nothing to do with good or bad Karma,

but

> that it is a way of returning "ashes to ashes and dust to dust".

> Also, the Sanyasins / monks are buried, not cremated, and I don't

> know why that is so - maybe since you are beyond all bonds of

family

> as a Sanyasin, so the concept of a son/descendent easing your path

> to the higher Lokas does nto apply? Just a thought.

>

> As for your example of a scientist, I would say that is both good

> and bad Karma involved in that. Good, since you are doing your

duty,

> as you mentioned, but also because you are doing your duty to your

> country and your people by protecting them from harm. Also it is

> good karma if it increases knowledge - the science of making

> missiles might be applicable in more benign areas that do good to

> people. But there is bad Karma involved too, if the missile is

used

> and results are harmful.

>

> I know that 9th house shows Dharma and the 10th Karma - do these

> show what actions the native will take on these, i.e. a benefic in

> 10, good 10th Lord etc. will make them want to perform good Karma?

> Or what they acquire good Karma, i.e. the opportunities to perform

> good Karma will be made available to them through a strong 10th?

>

> Thanks,

> Venkat

>

> vedic astrology, "onlyhari" <onlyhari>

> wrote:

> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| ||Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaaya||

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Some of you may have heard about 'Bodyworlds' exhibition

featuring

> > real human bodies and now showing at Singapore. The preservation

> > technique was invented by a German professor. This technique

> > involves dipping the human body in acetone at two different

> > temperatures to enable the leaching of fat/liquids and then

> dipping

> > the body in molten plastic so that the acetone comes out and the

> > plastic goes in, thus preserving the original structure of the

> human

> > body indefinitely.

> >

> > My friends went to this exhibition; I declined because I was

very

> > uneasy about the whole exhibition (D-60 perhaps?). On coming

back,

> > my friends and I had a discussion about this and got into an

> > argument about dharma vs karma. The crux of the argument was

this:

> > Are the people who are involved in this Body worlds business

doing

> > good karma?

> >

> > From one viewpoint, the people who helped to develop this

> technique

> > are ultimately contributing to the growth and development of

> > knowledge because this can be used by medical students

worldwide.

> > Similarly, the people who go to the exhibition come away with an

> > enhanced understanding of their own bodies and how things

function

> > inside the body. So it can be said that good karma is being

> created.

> >

> > On the other hand, the Hindu shastras recommend the burning of

the

> > human body when the soul leaves the body. Why? Does this imply

> that

> > this is bad karma to deal with dead bodies thus? I would be

> > interested to know your viewpoints.

> >

> > As an aside, consider the case of a scientist who is developing

a

> > missile. The scientist does his duty properly (dharma) and uses

> his

> > knowledge to develop the missile but ultimately in the end, the

> > missile is used for destructive purposes. Is the scientist

> creating

> > good or bad karma by his actions? Why?

> >

> > I apologize in advance for this seemingly non-astrological

> question

> > but lets not forget that dharma & karma are the basis of Jyotish.

> >

> > regards

> > Hari

[Guest guest]

Dear Lakshmi

!Hare Krishna!

This was an informative message from Narashimha:

 

 

 

Dear Kasim,

 

> Dear Narashimaji

 

You (or anybody for that matter) need not address me as "ji".

 

> I am currently a medical student in the UK and would one day want

to help in

> the push to unite Ayurveda, Jyotish and modern medicine.

>

> Its interesting you use your D6 for self diagnosis!

>

> I wonder if you could give one example of how you do this? I for

one would

> really really appreciate it.

>

> And BTW what is paryaya dasa?

>

> Best wishes

>

> Kasim

 

Paryaya dasa is a special rasi dasa taught by Jaimini. It was

explained in Pt. Sanjay Rath's book "Jaimini Maharishi's Upadesa

Sutras". I wrote an article a few years back on using D-6 and Paryaya

dasa for diagnosis of health problems, in Express Star Teller (or

could be Astrological Magazine of India, but I think EST is the

correct one).

 

Let me give an example as you asked.

 

* * *

 

Example 1 - Natal Chart:

 

Let us consider a person with the following birthdata.

 

October 2, 1968

Time: 9:30:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 76 E 36' 00", 13 N 58' 00"

 

His Paryaya dasa calculations are given below:

 

Chara Paryaya dasa of D-6 chart (illnesses, litigations && worries):

 

Maha Dasas:

 

Pi: 1968-10-02 (9:30:00) - 1974-10-02 (22:20:29)

Cn: 1974-10-02 (22:20:29) - 1979-10-03 (5:06:59)

Sc: 1979-10-03 (5:06:59) - 1981-10-02 (17:28:35)

Ar: 1981-10-02 (17:28:35) - 1983-10-03 (5:51:55)

Le: 1983-10-03 (5:51:55) - 1990-10-03 (0:43:05)

Sg: 1990-10-03 (0:43:05) - 1999-10-03 (8:15:14)

Ta: 1999-10-03 (8:15:14) - 2000-10-02 (14:22:35)

Vi: 2000-10-02 (14:22:35) - 2004-10-02 (14:57:33)

 

You can see that he started Vi dasa in Oct 2000. Is Vi associated

with 6th, 8th, 12th or badhaka sthanas? The 6th house shows aagantuka

problems (external sources). The 8th house shows nija problems

(internal source). The 12th house shows hospitalization or

restrictions on self. Badhaka house shows undiagnosable suffering.

 

Here, Vi is the 12th house (in D-6, of course). So, hospitalization

will happen during the dasa. It contains a benefic. So the

hospitalization is not in a serious or emergency condition.

 

Vi contains the 6th lord and lord of Vi is in 8th house. Thus, Vi is

connected to all dusthanas!

 

If you see the main influences, Vi is a vaata rasi (as per Parasara)

and its lord is in another vaata rasi (Taurus). Moreover, a vaata

planet (Saturn) aspects Vi. Thus, there will be predominantly vaata

problems in the dasa. The native had a depression following the death

of his father. This depression started at the end of 2000. It turned

into "clinical anxiety" and he was treated by doctors with some anti-

depression drugs. They made his anxiety worse and he had severe

digestive problems including heavy gas. Though his inherent

constitution was pitta, he had severe vaata problems during the dasa.

 

I gave him a couple of simple nutritional supplements (Triphala at

night and an anti-vaata combination containing Jatamamsi,

Sankhapushpi, Skullcap, Aswagandha etc) and those two worked wonders

for him. When the depression subsided, he stopped the second

combination, but continued to take Triphala. Triphala is a great

tonic and suitable for everybody.

 

* * *

 

Example 2 - Annual Chart:

 

Let us consider my chart.

 

April 4, 1970

Time: 17:47:13

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 81 E 08' 00", 16 N 10' 00"

 

Let us consider my annual TP (Tithi Pravesha) chart of 1992-93. For

the uninitiated, TP charts are the Vedic lunar counterpart of Tajaka

system. They are the lunar return charts. While Sun shows the soul,

Moon shows the mind. For timing things that are more related to mind

than soul, lunar return charts work much better than solar return

charts. My annual TP chart data is shown below:

 

April 1, 1992

Time: 12:16:39

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 81 E 08' 00", 16 N 10' 00"

 

Annual compressed Paryaya dasa calculations are given below:

 

Ubhaya Paryaya dasa of D-6 chart (illnesses, litigations && worries):

 

Maha Dasas:

 

Cp: 1992-04-01 (12:16:39) - 1992-05-04 (1:14:54)

Li: 1992-05-04 (1:14:54) - 1992-06-02 (10:06:01)

Cn: 1992-06-02 (10:06:01) - 1992-07-01 (17:25:13)

Ar: 1992-07-01 (17:25:13) - 1992-07-04 (7:26:23)

Sg: 1992-07-04 (7:26:23) - 1992-07-22 (18:48:15)

Vi: 1992-07-22 (18:48:15) - 1992-08-21 (6:56:36)

Ge: 1992-08-21 (6:56:36) - 1992-09-03 (19:20:12)

Pi: 1992-09-03 (19:20:12) - 1992-09-30 (9:35:11)

 

In the last week of August 1992, my health was quite bad. Why?

Because Ge dasa ran then! Ge is tridoshik and contains Jupiter, the

8th lord and he is afflicted by nodes. Definitely, trouble is to be

expected in such dasas.

 

* * *

 

Example 3 - Monthly Chart:

 

Let us consider my current monthly TP (Tithi Pravesha) chart. Data is

shown below:

 

November 22, 2003

Time: 14:39:05

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 81 E 08' 00", 16 N 10' 00"

 

Monthly compressed Paryaya dasa calculations are given below:

 

Chara Paryaya dasa of D-6 chart (illnesses, litigations && worries):

 

Maha Dasas:

 

Aq: 2003-11-22 (14:39:05) - 2003-11-23 (16:08:33)

Li: 2003-11-23 (16:08:33) - 2003-11-24 (22:30:49)

Ge: 2003-11-24 (22:30:49) - 2003-11-26 (15:34:39)

Cp: 2003-11-26 (15:34:39) - 2003-11-27 (23:30:53)

Vi: 2003-11-27 (23:30:53) - 2003-11-29 (14:40:37)

Ta: 2003-11-29 (14:40:37) - 2003-12-02 (9:06:10)

Sg: 2003-12-02 (9:06:10) - 2003-12-04 (12:41:40)

Le: 2003-12-04 (12:41:40) - 2003-12-07 (0:29:29)

Ar: 2003-12-07 (0:29:29) - 2003-12-08 (3:12:53)

Sc: 2003-12-08 (3:12:53) - 2003-12-10 (14:51:20)

Cn: 2003-12-10 (14:51:20) - 2003-12-10 (21:24:28)

Pi: 2003-12-10 (21:24:28) - 2003-12-12 (18:40:29)

Aq: 2003-12-12 (18:40:29) - 2003-12-14 (14:37:42)

 

Towards last Thursday/Friday, I was feeling a lot of heat in my body.

Why? Leo dasa was running then. Leo is the 8th house of nija

troubles. Because of parivartana (exchange), Mars in Leo behaves like

Sun in Leo. Either way, Leo is a fiery sign and has a fiery planet.

So there is a lot of heat in the body creating trouble during the 3

days. That was indeed the case.

 

On Dec 7, I fasted (to do my monthly Satya Narayana vratam on

Pournimasya night). I was concerned that it might further aggravate

the already aggravated pitta. I took precaution in the previous two

days. Still, pitta was aggravated during the next 3 days (Dec 8-10).

 

Why? Look at dasas. It was Sc dasa! Sun in Sc gives the result of

Mars in Sc (due to parivartana). Badhaka lord in badhaka sthana.

 

I said in the past that one can find links between different

divisional charts, using signs and planets as links. For example,

look at Mars, Sun and Scorpio here. In rasi chart, Scorpio is the 9th

house of dharma containing Sun and Mars is its lord and he is in the

12th house of upasana. Mars is also the 2nd lord of food and is in

the 12th house of deprivation (giving up). In D-20 (chart of

religious/spiritual activities), Mars is the 5th lord of devotion and

occupied the 9th house of dharma with Sun, that too in sattwik

Pisces. The 5th lord Mars with Sun in Pisces can show pooja to a

saattwik deity such as Satya Narayana. Scorpio is the 5th house of

devotion.

 

All the links involving Sc, Sun and Mars clearly show that the pitta

aggravation showed by D-6, dharma, upasana and food deprivation shown

in rasi chart and devotion and pooja of Satya Narayana shown in D-20

are all interlinked!

 

Anyway, let us go to the next dasa. Cn is an uneventful dasa. But, Pi

dasa is important. Its lord is in the 8th house. This dasa can give

health problems. As Pisces and Jupiter both are of kapha nature, the

problem can be a kapha problem. Pisces is an ubhayodaya rasi and its

lord gives his result in the 3rd one-third of the dasa. So the

problem is given on Dec 12. Indeed I was on the verge of catching

cold since yesterday evening(actually, if you convert the dasa dates

above to Boston timezone, the last one-third of Pi dasa started

yesterday late afternoon).

 

Basically, the herbs I took to reduce pitta in the last 5-8 days have

slightly increased kapha and, at the same time, there is a kid with

flu at home. I have conditions ideal for catching cold and dasa is

also conducive. So I am taking extra care.

 

* * *

 

Example 4 - Daily Chart:

 

Let us consider my daily TP (Tithi Pravesha) chart of today. Data is

shown below:

 

December 12, 2003

Time: 12:16:48

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 81 E 08' 00", 16 N 10' 00"

 

The above is equivalent to 1:46:48 am on the same day in Boston time.

Daily compressed Paryaya dasa calculations are given below. The times

are converted to the Boston timezone for easy reference (using JHora

commercial version).

 

Sthira Paryaya dasa of D-6 chart (illnesses, litigations && worries):

 

Maha Dasas:

 

Le: 2003-12-12 (1:46:48) - 2003-12-12 (2:50:51)

Aq: 2003-12-12 (2:50:51) - 2003-12-12 (4:07:40)

Vi: 2003-12-12 (4:07:40) - 2003-12-12 (4:33:15)

Pi: 2003-12-12 (4:33:15) - 2003-12-12 (6:02:46)

Li: 2003-12-12 (6:02:46) - 2003-12-12 (8:10:29)

Ar: 2003-12-12 (8:10:29) - 2003-12-12 (9:27:02)

Sc: 2003-12-12 (9:27:02) - 2003-12-12 (11:21:44)

Ta: 2003-12-12 (11:21:44) - 2003-12-12 (11:59:56)

Sg: 2003-12-12 (11:59:56) - 2003-12-12 (13:41:43)

Ge: 2003-12-12 (13:41:43) - 2003-12-12 (13:54:26)

Cp: 2003-12-12 (13:54:26) - 2003-12-12 (15:10:41)

Cn: 2003-12-12 (15:10:41) - 2003-12-12 (17:04:57)

Le: 2003-12-12 (17:04:57) - 2003-12-12 (18:33:42)

Aq: 2003-12-12 (18:33:42) - 2003-12-12 (19:49:42)

Vi: 2003-12-12 (19:49:42) - 2003-12-12 (21:56:13)

Pi: 2003-12-12 (21:56:13) - 2003-12-12 (22:59:24)

Li: 2003-12-12 (22:59:24) - 2003-12-12 (23:24:40)

Ar: 2003-12-12 (23:24:40) - 2003-12-13 (0:40:24)

Sc: 2003-12-13 (0:40:24) - 2003-12-13 (1:18:15)

Ta: 2003-12-13 (1:18:15) - 2003-12-13 (3:11:40)

Sg: 2003-12-13 (3:11:40) - 2003-12-13 (4:02:01)

Ge: 2003-12-13 (4:02:01) - 2003-12-13 (6:20:20)

Cp: 2003-12-13 (6:20:20) - 2003-12-13 (7:35:40)

Cn: 2003-12-13 (7:35:40) - 2003-12-13 (8:13:18)

 

The hora lord of the chart is Mars (i.e. Mars hora was running at

birthplace when the new day started at the above time). You can see

that Mars owns the 8th house and is a functional malefic in D-6. The

weekday lord is important for health and he is Venus, placed in 12th

from lagna in D-6. So, overall, the day is not conducive to good

health.

 

Specifically, let us look at dasas. What is the first dasa of

concern? Aries is the 8th house and owned by the ruler of the day

(Mars - hora lord). So, it is an important dasa. Its dasa ran during

8:10 am to 9:30 am. I slept late and got up in that dasa. I was

feeling sick and had a bit of sore throat and feeling like I had

cold. I gargled Triphala water and took a herbal combination for cold.

 

The cold did not increase and was in fact controlled. I started

feeling much better soon after lunch. Why did Sg dasa bring good

feeling in health? Its lord Jupiter is badhaka lord and he is well-

placed in 12th (for badhaka lord, 12th is excellent!). So the middle

of Sg dasa brought an improvement.

 

* * *

 

Warning

 

I was taught by Pt. Sanjay Rath to take antardasas in Paryaya dasa

just as in Narayana dasa. But, I did not get consistent results that

way. So, as you can see above, I do not use antardasas. I only use

dasas and use the "three parts rule" in dasas based on the rising of

the sign.

 

However, I use D-6 and its Paryaya dasa in natal charts as well as

annual, monthly and daily Tithi Pravesha (lunar return) charts.

 

Hope what I wrote above will be useful to somebody someday.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "lakshmisyama"

<lakshmikary@n...> wrote:

> Hare Krishna

> Dear Jyotisha Friends,

> What I would like,

> How to use D-6 to "define" our enemies , our debts etc.

> AND also HOW to USe D-30 to SHOW WHICH SHAD_RIPUS and which

> types of bad karmas we will generate by ACTING on them,,

> How do tell which good and bad karmas we are creating in life..

> Also some person might , steal or kill , or whatever at some point

> in life and then repent and lead a relatively "pure" life..

> Anybody have and wisdom and charts where in they can use D-6 and D-

> 30 and show it in action?

> I think every astrologer should be aware of their own flaws, and

> also be aware of their "enemies". No one usually wants to get into

> it,they'd rather focus on their raja and dhana yogas...

> When we analyze a chart it is also nice to gently guide the native

> to recognize their problems so that they can have some self

> realizations if you want to call it that.

> Narasimha had done some research on this awhile back, unfortunely i

> cant find the post , otherwise id repost it..

> If any of you has some realizations on this id love to hear them.

> Also how it all ties in to D-60 ..etc

> With best regards,

> lakshmi kary

> Was this discussed on east coast work shops.?