Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Hello all The whole chart, Lordship of planets , Postion of planets in chart and many other factors are important decide the effects of dasha and antardasha. Still in general How to analyse Dasha/ Antradasha effects of planet combinations..based on realtionship between two planets. Venus-> Jup-- Though they are ememies they are natural benefic Jup-> Venus Though they are ememies they are natural benefic Jup->Mer Though they are natural benefic they are enemies. Mer->Jup Though they are natural benefic they are enemies. Jup->Mars - Jup and Mars are friends.. But Jup is natual benefic and Mars is natural malefic Mars->Moon Moon and mars are friends but Mars is natural malefic and Moon Natural benefic. Also What if even such combination planets dasha/antardasha are there and such planet combinations are either angles or Trines to each other ... Does that make any difference? say Jup-Venus are in kendra to each other or Say moon and mars are trine to each other. regards astro_learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Hello Astro Here's the standard tables and rules, if you still need them..all the best..RMK (I) First find Natural Relationships and Temporary Relationships..then get the combined effects of these combinations MoolTrikona Signs of the planets: First 20 degrees of Leo are Sun's mooltrikona and the rest its house. firstb 3 degreees of Tauarus are moon's exaltation and the rest is its mooltrikona. first 12 degrees of areies are mars are mooltrikona and the rest is its own house. For mercury in virho the first 15 degrees form exaltation sign, the nest 5 degrees his mooltrikona and the last 10 his own house. In the sign Sagittarius, the first 10 degrees are Jupiter's mooltrikona and the rest his own hose. In the sign Libra first 15 degrees are mooltrikona and the rest his own house. Saturn has mooltrikona in the sign aquarius upto 20 degrees and the rest is his own house. Planets Sun Moon Mars Mercury Jupiter Venus Saturn Exalted signs Aries Taurus Capicorn Virgo Cancer Pisces Libra Deepest 10 3 28 15 5 27 20 exaltation degrees Debilitated libra scorpio cancer pisces capricorn virgo aries signs Deepest 10 3 28 15 5 27 20 debilitation degrees Natural Relationships:The verse says that from the mooltrikona sign of a planet the 4th, 2nd, 12th, 5th, 9th and 8th sign is the sign of the friend of the said planet and the rest 3, 6, 7, 10, 11 are the signs of his enemies. Temporary Relationships of planets.The planets in 10th, 11th, 4th, 2nd , 3rd or 12th from one another are mutual friends else they act as enemies. Natural Friend + Temporary Friend = Great Friend Natural Friend + Temporary Enemy = Neutral Natural Enemy + Temprary Enemy = Bad Enemy Natural Enemy + Temporary Friend = Neutral Natural Neutral + Temporary Friend = friend Natural Neutral + Temporary Enemy = Enemy (II)Also various planets give malefic effects (especialy lords of 6th, 8th and 12th become very malefic,) especially when they are placed in 6th/8th/12th positions from Ascendant/Lagna and/or from Mahadasa Lord. (III) Also lords of various houses are considered to be in good/fortunate positions if placed in kendras or trikonas or 11th house from Ascendant/Lagna and/or from Mahadasa Lord, especially if the MD lord and AD Lord are friends. (IV) One must also consider Functional benefics and Functional malefics for the natal lagna, and also the position of the MD/AD Lords from this point of view. This can become critical for some MD/AD cases. Finally also see Isthaphala(benefic rays) and Kasthaphala (malefic rays), if still confused.... A planet which gives good financial gains, power, status(even with low Isthapahala) due to above good/fortunate combinations may still be giving some sufferings as a side effect, if its Kasthaphala is high i.e., its not necessary that the richer person is really happy in this world. vedic astrology, "astro_learn" <astrolearn@i...> wrote: > Hello all > > The whole chart, Lordship of planets , Postion of planets in chart > and many other factors are important decide the effects of dasha and > antardasha. Still in general How to analyse Dasha/ Antradasha > effects of planet combinations..based on realtionship between two > planets. > > > Venus-> Jup-- Though they are ememies they are natural benefic > Jup-> Venus Though they are ememies they are natural benefic > Jup->Mer Though they are natural benefic they are enemies. > Mer->Jup Though they are natural benefic they are enemies. > Jup->Mars - Jup and Mars are friends.. But Jup is natual benefic and > Mars is natural malefic > Mars->Moon Moon and mars are friends but Mars is natural malefic and > Moon Natural benefic. > > > Also What if even such combination planets dasha/antardasha are there > and such planet combinations are either angles or Trines to each > other ... Does that make any difference? > say Jup-Venus are in kendra to each other > or Say moon and mars are trine to each other. > > regards > astro_learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Thank you rajesh Its really very useful information. Thank you very much. Regards AL vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > Hello Astro > Here's the standard tables and rules, if you still need them..all the > best..RMK > > (I) First find Natural Relationships and Temporary > Relationships..then get the combined effects of these combinations > > MoolTrikona Signs of the planets: First 20 degrees of Leo are Sun's > mooltrikona and the rest its house. firstb 3 degreees of Tauarus are > moon's exaltation and the rest is its mooltrikona. first 12 degrees > of areies are mars are mooltrikona and the rest is its own house. For > mercury in virho the first 15 degrees form exaltation sign, the nest > 5 degrees his mooltrikona and the last 10 his own house. In the sign > Sagittarius, the first 10 degrees are Jupiter's mooltrikona and the > rest his own hose. In the sign Libra first 15 degrees are mooltrikona > and the rest his own house. Saturn has mooltrikona in the sign > aquarius upto 20 degrees and the rest is his own house. > > Planets Sun Moon Mars Mercury Jupiter Venus Saturn > > Exalted signs Aries Taurus Capicorn Virgo Cancer Pisces Libra > > Deepest 10 3 28 15 5 27 20 > exaltation degrees > > Debilitated libra scorpio cancer pisces capricorn virgo aries > signs > Deepest 10 3 28 15 5 27 20 > > debilitation degrees > > Natural Relationships:The verse says that from the mooltrikona sign > of a planet the 4th, 2nd, 12th, 5th, 9th and 8th sign is the sign of > the friend of the said planet and the rest 3, 6, 7, 10, 11 are the > signs of his enemies. > > Temporary Relationships of planets.The planets in 10th, 11th, 4th, > 2nd , 3rd or 12th from one another are mutual friends else they act > as enemies. > > > > > Natural Friend + Temporary Friend = Great Friend > Natural Friend + Temporary Enemy = Neutral > Natural Enemy + Temprary Enemy = Bad Enemy > Natural Enemy + Temporary Friend = Neutral > Natural Neutral + Temporary Friend = friend > Natural Neutral + Temporary Enemy = Enemy > > (II)Also various planets give malefic effects (especialy lords of > 6th, 8th and 12th become very malefic,) especially when they are > placed in 6th/8th/12th positions from Ascendant/Lagna and/or from > Mahadasa Lord. > > (III) Also lords of various houses are considered to be in > good/fortunate positions if placed in kendras or trikonas or 11th > house from Ascendant/Lagna and/or from Mahadasa Lord, especially if > the MD lord and AD Lord are friends. > > (IV) One must also consider Functional benefics and Functional > malefics for the natal lagna, and also the position of the MD/AD > Lords from this point of view. This can become critical for some > MD/AD cases. > > Finally also see Isthaphala(benefic rays) and Kasthaphala (malefic > rays), if still confused.... A planet which gives good financial > gains, power, status(even with low Isthapahala) due to above > good/fortunate combinations may still be giving some sufferings as a > side effect, if its Kasthaphala is high i.e., its not necessary that > the richer person is really happy in this world. > > > > > vedic astrology, "astro_learn" > <astrolearn@i...> wrote: > > Hello all > > > > The whole chart, Lordship of planets , Postion of planets in chart > > and many other factors are important decide the effects of dasha > and > > antardasha. Still in general How to analyse Dasha/ Antradasha > > effects of planet combinations..based on realtionship between two > > planets. > > > > > > Venus-> Jup-- Though they are ememies they are natural benefic > > Jup-> Venus Though they are ememies they are natural benefic > > Jup->Mer Though they are natural benefic they are enemies. > > Mer->Jup Though they are natural benefic they are enemies. > > Jup->Mars - Jup and Mars are friends.. But Jup is natual benefic > and > > Mars is natural malefic > > Mars->Moon Moon and mars are friends but Mars is natural malefic > and > > Moon Natural benefic. > > > > > > Also What if even such combination planets dasha/antardasha are > there > > and such planet combinations are either angles or Trines to each > > other ... Does that make any difference? > > say Jup-Venus are in kendra to each other > > or Say moon and mars are trine to each other. > > > > regards > > astro_learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Dear Astro Learn, (maybe you can start using your real name like the rest of us ?) I will comment on the Jup/Ven & Ven/Jup periods which can be very tricky and in my opinion are open issue for a serious future research. Besides all standard relationship factors, moolatrikona, exl/deb, placement in 6/8/12 etc. it is important to notice the following: 1. The distance relationship between them (6/8, 2/12 are an invitation for problems depending on lordships) 2. Who they are with and any yogas involved. 3. The aspects between and influences on them (like argala) 4. Their relation in D-9 (dharma) and D-10 (karma) and eventually other selected divisions (like D-60 if birth time is 99.9% correct). 5. Their relations and aspects with lagna lord 6. Their transits during the period. 7. Yearly Tithi Pravesh chart and a DPC (dasa pravesh at the beginning of the dasa) to support the above. There are many examples of blemished Jupiter placed in lagna/trines and giving negative results at the beginning of the dasa and good ones later. Negative material results may provide positive spiritually and visa versa. The same goes for Venus, where one may clime to a high position, name and fame just to loss it at the end of the period... There is much analysing work to be done on any dasa and on those two periods in particular as one can easily be fooled into the wrong conclusions. Kind regards /Jay Weiss http://www.alvicomm.com http://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm - "astro_learn" <astrolearn <vedic astrology> Friday, January 30, 2004 1:18 AM [vedic astrology] Dasha Effects > Hello all > > The whole chart, Lordship of planets , Postion of planets in chart > and many other factors are important decide the effects of dasha and > antardasha. Still in general How to analyse Dasha/ Antradasha > effects of planet combinations..based on realtionship between two > planets. > > > Venus-> Jup-- Though they are ememies they are natural benefic > Jup-> Venus Though they are ememies they are natural benefic > Jup->Mer Though they are natural benefic they are enemies. > Mer->Jup Though they are natural benefic they are enemies. > Jup->Mars - Jup and Mars are friends.. But Jup is natual benefic and > Mars is natural malefic > Mars->Moon Moon and mars are friends but Mars is natural malefic and > Moon Natural benefic. > > > Also What if even such combination planets dasha/antardasha are there > and such planet combinations are either angles or Trines to each > other ... Does that make any difference? > say Jup-Venus are in kendra to each other > or Say moon and mars are trine to each other. > > regards > astro_learn > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Your > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Dear Jay, I agree with you /even if not in 6/8 2/12- can be 'tricky'. /I divorced in ve/ju/ But what you wrote about Venus- start good, loss at the end- I haven't seen. Sounds like what I've read about rahu, but haven't explored yet- what one gets during beginning of Rahu, loses everything at the end- what do you say- what's your experience? Exageration? Best wishes, Anna"J.Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Astro Learn, (maybe you can start using your real name like the rest ofus ?)I will comment on the Jup/Ven & Ven/Jup periods which can be very tricky andin my opinion are open issue for a serious future research.Besides all standard relationship factors, moolatrikona, exl/deb, placementin 6/8/12 etc. it is important to notice the following:1. The distance relationship between them (6/8, 2/12 are an invitation forproblems depending on lordships)2. Who they are with and any yogas involved.3. The aspects between and influences on them (like argala)4. Their relation in D-9 (dharma) and D-10 (karma) and eventually otherselected divisions (like D-60 if birth time is 99.9% correct).5. Their relations and aspects with lagna lord6. Their transits during the period.7. Yearly Tithi Pravesh chart and a DPC (dasa pravesh at the beginning ofthe dasa) to support the above.There are many examples of blemished Jupiter placed in lagna/trines andgiving negative results at the beginning of the dasa and good ones later.Negative material results may provide positive spiritually and visa versa.The same goes for Venus, where one may clime to a high position, name andfame just to loss it at the end of the period...There is much analysing work to be done on any dasa and on those two periodsin particular as one can easily be fooled into the wrong conclusions.Kind regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.comhttp://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm----- Original Message ----- "astro_learn" <astrolearn (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com>To: <vedic astrology>Friday, January 30, 2004 1:18 AMSubject: [vedic astrology] Dasha Effects> Hello all>> The whole chart, Lordship of planets , Postion of planets in chart> and many other factors are important decide the effects of dasha and> antardasha. Still in general How to analyse Dasha/ Antradasha> effects of planet combinations..based on realtionship between two> planets.>>> Venus-> Jup-- Though they are ememies they are natural benefic> Jup-> Venus Though they are ememies they are natural benefic> Jup->Mer Though they are natural benefic they are enemies.> Mer->Jup Though they are natural benefic they are enemies.> Jup->Mars - Jup and Mars are friends.. But Jup is natual benefic and> Mars is natural malefic> Mars->Moon Moon and mars are friends but Mars is natural malefic and> Moon Natural benefic.>>> Also What if even such combination planets dasha/antardasha are there> and such planet combinations are either angles or Trines to each> other ... Does that make any difference?> say Jup-Venus are in kendra to each other> or Say moon and mars are trine to each other.>> regards> astro_learn>>>>>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......>> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>> Links>> To visit your group on the web, go to:> vedic astrology/>> > vedic astrology>> Your use of is subject to:> >>>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Dear Anna, What I wrote is very "safe" not only from some research done so far, but also from my personal experience and true cases in my possession ( I have one chart with current Jup/Ven period under observation). I mentioned aspects and argala etc. Rahu's influence on Venus is only one valid example like in my own case which resulted in lose of high position but the start of spiritual gain (Venus in own in 10th!). In your personal case there is (without going into details here) you have a direct multiple connection between the elements and ingredients for divorce at that period. Exaggeration ? you know me better than that ...wrong address… I can also refer to a research paper publish in “Enigmas in Astrology” by K.N.Rao and has an entire chapter dedicated to the dasas of Jup/Ven – Ven/Jup as well as with the periods of Sat/Ra and Ra/Sa (which I will have to watch closely in my own chart sometime in the future...). Kind regards/Jay - 108ar vedic astrology Friday, January 30, 2004 8:35 AM Fwd: Re: [vedic astrology] Dasha Effects Dear Jay, I agree with you /even if not in 6/8 2/12- can be 'tricky'. /I divorced in ve/ju/ But what you wrote about Venus- start good, loss at the end- I haven't seen. Sounds like what I've read about rahu, but haven't explored yet- what one gets during beginning of Rahu, loses everything at the end- what do you say- what's your experience? Exageration? Best wishes, Anna"J.Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Astro Learn, (maybe you can start using your real name like the rest ofus ?)I will comment on the Jup/Ven & Ven/Jup periods which can be very tricky andin my opinion are open issue for a serious future research.Besides all standard relationship factors, moolatrikona, exl/deb, placementin 6/8/12 etc. it is important to notice the following:1. The distance relationship between them (6/8, 2/12 are an invitation forproblems depending on lordships)2. Who they are with and any yogas involved.3. The aspects between and influences on them (like argala)4. Their relation in D-9 (dharma) and D-10 (karma) and eventually otherselected divisions (like D-60 if birth time is 99.9% correct).5. Their relations and aspects with lagna lord6. Their transits during the period.7. Yearly Tithi Pravesh chart and a DPC (dasa pravesh at the beginning ofthe dasa) to support the above.There are many examples of blemished Jupiter placed in lagna/trines andgiving negative results at the beginning of the dasa and good ones later.Negative material results may provide positive spiritually and visa versa.The same goes for Venus, where one may clime to a high position, name andfame just to loss it at the end of the period...There is much analysing work to be done on any dasa and on those two periodsin particular as one can easily be fooled into the wrong conclusions.Kind regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.comhttp://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm----- Original Message ----- "astro_learn" <astrolearn (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com>To: <vedic astrology>Friday, January 30, 2004 1:18 AMSubject: [vedic astrology] Dasha Effects> Hello all>> The whole chart, Lordship of planets , Postion of planets in chart> and many other factors are important decide the effects of dasha and> antardasha. Still in general How to analyse Dasha/ Antradasha> effects of planet combinations..based on realtionship between two> planets.>>> Venus-> Jup-- Though they are ememies they are natural benefic> Jup-> Venus Though they are ememies they are natural benefic> Jup->Mer Though they are natural benefic they are enemies.> Mer->Jup Though they are natural benefic they are enemies.> Jup->Mars - Jup and Mars are friends.. But Jup is natual benefic and> Mars is natural malefic> Mars->Moon Moon and mars are friends but Mars is natural malefic and> Moon Natural benefic.>>& gt; Also What if even such combination planets dasha/antardasha are there> and such planet combinations are either angles or Trines to each> other ... Does that make any difference?> say Jup-Venus are in kendra to each other> or Say moon and mars are trine to each other.>> regards> astro_learn>>>>>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......>> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>> Links>> > vedic astrology/>> To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology>> Your > >>>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... < BR> To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Dear All, It seems like a very interesting discussion.I Have a friend with Venus Jupiter conjunction in the 7th house with rashi capricorn . Please throw some light. Astroneed"J.Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Anna, What I wrote is very "safe" not only from some research done so far, but also from my personal experience and true cases in my possession ( I have one chart with current Jup/Ven period under observation). I mentioned aspects and argala etc. Rahu's influence on Venus is only one valid example like in my own case which resulted in lose of high position but the start of spiritual gain (Venus in own in 10th!). In your personal case there is (without going into details here) you have a direct multiple connection between the elements and ingredients for divorce at that period. Exaggeration ? you know me better than that ...wrong address… I can also refer to a research paper publish in “Enigmas in Astrology” by K.N.Rao and has an entire chapter dedicated to the dasas of Jup/Ven – Ven/Jup as well as with the periods of Sat/Ra and Ra/Sa (which I will have to watch closely in my own chart sometime in the future...). Kind regards/Jay - 108ar vedic astrology Friday, January 30, 2004 8:35 AM Fwd: Re: [vedic astrology] Dasha Effects Dear Jay, I agree with you /even if not in 6/8 2/12- can be 'tricky'. /I divorced in ve/ju/ But what you wrote about Venus- start good, loss at the end- I haven't seen. Sounds like what I've read about rahu, but haven't explored yet- what one gets during beginning of Rahu, loses everything at the end- what do you say- what's your experience? Exageration? Best wishes, Anna"J.Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Astro Learn, (maybe you can start using your real name like the rest ofus ?)I will comment on the Jup/Ven & Ven/Jup periods which can be very tricky andin my opinion are open issue for a serious future research.Besides all standard relationship factors, moolatrikona, exl/deb, placementin 6/8/12 etc. it is important to notice the following:1. The distance relationship between them (6/8, 2/12 are an invitation forproblems depending on lordships)2. Who they are with and any yogas involved.3. The aspects between and influences on them (like argala)4. Their relation in D-9 (dharma) and D-10 (karma) and eventually otherselected divisions (like D-60 if birth time is 99.9% correct).5. Their relations and aspects with lagna lord6. Their transits during the period.7. Yearly Tithi Pravesh chart and a DPC (dasa pravesh at the beginning ofthe dasa) to support the above.There are many examples of blemished Jupiter placed in lagna/trines andgiving negative results at the beginning of the dasa and good ones later.Negative material results may provide positive spiritually and visa versa.The same goes for Venus, where one may clime to a high position, name andfame just to loss it at the end of the period...There is much analysing work to be done on any dasa and on those two periodsin particular as one can easily be fooled into the wrong conclusions.Kind regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.comhttp://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm----- Original Message ----- "astro_learn" <astrolearn (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com>To: <vedic astrology>Friday, January 30, 2004 1:18 AMSubject: [vedic astrology] Dasha Effects> Hello all>> The whole chart, Lordship of planets , Postion of planets in chart> and many other factors are important decide the effects of dasha and> antardasha. Still in general How to analyse Dasha/ Antradasha> effects of planet combinations..based on realtionship between two> planets.>>> Venus-> Jup-- Though they are ememies they are natural benefic> Jup-> Venus Though they are ememies they are natural benefic> Jup->Mer Though they are natural benefic they are enemies.> Mer->Jup Though they are natural benefic they are enemies.> Jup->Mars - Jup and Mars are friends.. But Jup is natual benefic and> Mars is natural malefic> Mars->Moon Moon and mars are friends but Mars is natural malefic and> Moon Natural benefic.>>& gt; Also What if even such combination planets dasha/antardasha are there> and such planet combinations are either angles or Trines to each> other ... Does that make any difference?> say Jup-Venus are in kendra to each other> or Say moon and mars are trine to each other.>> regards> astro_learn>>>>>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......>> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>> Links>> To visit your group on the web, go to:> vedic astrology/>> To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology>> Your > >>>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... < BR> To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Dear Astroneed (don't you have a name either ?) How much can anyone do with the parameters "Ven & Jup in the 7th, cp lagna" ? what about the rest ? No offence, but kindly ask your friend to have his chart done or use the parameters mentioned by me earlier as > 80% are basics. Regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.comhttp://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm - Astro Know vedic astrology Friday, January 30, 2004 9:45 AM Re: Re: [vedic astrology] Dasha Effects Astro Know <astroneed > wrote: Dear All, It seems like a very interesting discussion.I Have a friend with Venus Jupiter conjunction in the 7th house with rashi capricorn . Please throw some light. Astroneed"J.Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Anna, What I wrote is very "safe" not only from some research done so far, but also from my personal experience and true cases in my possession ( I have one chart with current Jup/Ven period under observation). I mentioned aspects and argala etc. Rahu's influence on Venus is only one valid example like in my own case which resulted in lose of high position but the start of spiritual gain (Venus in own in 10th!). In your personal case there is (without going into details here) you have a direct multiple connection between the elements and ingredients for divorce at that period. Exaggeration ? you know me better than that ...wrong address… I can also refer to a research paper publish in “Enigmas in Astrology” by K.N.Rao and has an entire chapter dedicated to the dasas of Jup/Ven – Ven/Jup as well as with the periods of Sat/Ra and Ra/Sa (which I will have to watch closely in my own chart sometime in the future...). Kind regards/Jay - 108ar vedic astrology Friday, January 30, 2004 8:35 AM Fwd: Re: [vedic astrology] Dasha Effects Dear Jay, I agree with you /even if not in 6/8 2/12- can be 'tricky'. /I divorced in ve/ju/ But what you wrote about Venus- start good, loss at the end- I haven't seen. Sounds like what I've read about rahu, but haven't explored yet- what one gets during beginning of Rahu, loses everything at the end- what do you say- what's your experience? Exageration? Best wishes, Anna"J.Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Astro Learn, (maybe you can start using your real name like the rest ofus ?)I will comment on the Jup/Ven & Ven/Jup periods which can be very tricky andin my opinion are open issue for a serious future research.Besides all standard relationship factors, moolatrikona, exl/deb, placementin 6/8/12 etc. it is important to notice the following:1. The distance relationship between them (6/8, 2/12 are an invitation forproblems depending on lordships)2. Who they are with and any yogas involved.3. The aspects between and influences on them (like argala)4. Their relation in D-9 (dharma) and D-10 (karma) and eventually otherselected divisions (like D-60 if birth time is 99.9% correct).5. Their relations and aspects with lagna lord6. Their transits during the period.7. Yearly Tithi Pravesh chart and a DPC (dasa pravesh at the beginning ofthe dasa) to support the above.There are many examples of blemished Jupiter placed in lagna/trines andgiving negative results at the beginning of the dasa and good ones later.Negative material results may provide positive spiritually and visa versa.The same goes for Venus, where one may clime to a high position, name andfame just to loss it at the end of the period...There is much analysing work to be done on any dasa and on those two periodsin particular as one can easily be fooled into the wrong conclusions.Kind regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.comhttp://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm----- Original Message ----- "astro_learn" <astrolearn (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com>To: <vedic astrology>Friday, January 30, 2004 1:18 AMSubject: [vedic astrology] Dasha Effects> Hello all>> The whole chart, Lordship of planets , Postion of planets in chart> and many other factors are important decide the effects of dasha and> antardasha. Still in general How to analyse Dasha/ Antradasha> effects of planet combinations..based on realtionship between two> planets.>>> Venus-> Jup-- Though they are ememies they are natural benefic> Jup-> Venus Though they are ememies they are natural benefic> Jup->Mer Though they are natural benefic they are enemies.> Mer->Jup Though they are natural benefic they are enemies.> Jup->Mars - Jup and Mars are friends.. But Jup is natual benefic and> Mars is natural malefic> Mars->Moon Moon and mars are friends but Mars is natural malefic and> Moon Natural benefic.>>& amp; gt; Also What if even such combination planets dasha/antardasha are there> and such planet combinations are either angles or Trines to each> other ... Does that make any difference?> say Jup-Venus are in kendra to each other> or Say moon and mars are trine to each other.>> regards> astro_learn>>>>>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... 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Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 ha, ha, I knew I pushed the wrong button, LOL!!! I love that! You know me, by now..I know you like the way I am.. I just mentioned VE/JU in my divorce for illustration, but you are right- it had been 'engaved' in many other ways. But...that one looses everything he /mostly/ 'grabbed' /but NOT ALWAYS/ in Rahu infatuation with money and wordly stuff...I have yet to see...I would change opinion on Rahu, then / if he represents kind of God's justice, which I doubt- Don't we all love Robbin Hood?- Isn't he /a bit, at LEAST/ 'Rahuvian? Thanks for a suggested reasearch paper /I don't have, thanks for asking!/ Warmest wishes,Anna"J.Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Anna, What I wrote is very "safe" not only from some research done so far, but also from my personal experience and true cases in my possession ( I have one chart with current Jup/Ven period under observation). I mentioned aspects and argala etc. Rahu's influence on Venus is only one valid example like in my own case which resulted in lose of high position but the start of spiritual gain (Venus in own in 10th!). In your personal case there is (without going into details here) you have a direct multiple connection between the elements and ingredients for divorce at that period. Exaggeration ? you know me better than that ...wrong address… I can also refer to a research paper publish in “Enigmas in Astrology” by K.N.Rao and has an entire chapter dedicated to the dasas of Jup/Ven – Ven/Jup as well as with the periods of Sat/Ra and Ra/Sa (which I will have to watch closely in my own chart sometime in the future...). Kind regards/Jay - 108ar vedic astrology Friday, January 30, 2004 8:35 AM Fwd: Re: [vedic astrology] Dasha Effects Dear Jay, I agree with you /even if not in 6/8 2/12- can be 'tricky'. /I divorced in ve/ju/ But what you wrote about Venus- start good, loss at the end- I haven't seen. Sounds like what I've read about rahu, but haven't explored yet- what one gets during beginning of Rahu, loses everything at the end- what do you say- what's your experience? Exageration? Best wishes, Anna"J.Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Astro Learn, (maybe you can start using your real name like the rest ofus ?)I will comment on the Jup/Ven & Ven/Jup periods which can be very tricky andin my opinion are open issue for a serious future research.Besides all standard relationship factors, moolatrikona, exl/deb, placementin 6/8/12 etc. it is important to notice the following:1. The distance relationship between them (6/8, 2/12 are an invitation forproblems depending on lordships)2. Who they are with and any yogas involved.3. The aspects between and influences on them (like argala)4. Their relation in D-9 (dharma) and D-10 (karma) and eventually otherselected divisions (like D-60 if birth time is 99.9% correct).5. Their relations and aspects with lagna lord6. Their transits during the period.7. Yearly Tithi Pravesh chart and a DPC (dasa pravesh at the beginning ofthe dasa) to support the above.There are many examples of blemished Jupiter placed in lagna/trines andgiving negative results at the beginning of the dasa and good ones later.Negative material results may provide positive spiritually and visa versa.The same goes for Venus, where one may clime to a high position, name andfame just to loss it at the end of the period...There is much analysing work to be done on any dasa and on those two periodsin particular as one can easily be fooled into the wrong conclusions.Kind regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.comhttp://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm----- Original Message ----- "astro_learn" <astrolearn (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com>To: <vedic astrology>Friday, January 30, 2004 1:18 AMSubject: [vedic astrology] Dasha Effects> Hello all>> The whole chart, Lordship of planets , Postion of planets in chart> and many other factors are important decide the effects of dasha and> antardasha. Still in general How to analyse Dasha/ Antradasha> effects of planet combinations..based on realtionship between two> planets.>>> Venus-> Jup-- Though they are ememies they are natural benefic> Jup-> Venus Though they are ememies they are natural benefic> Jup->Mer Though they are natural benefic they are enemies.> Mer->Jup Though they are natural benefic they are enemies.> Jup->Mars - Jup and Mars are friends.. But Jup is natual benefic and> Mars is natural malefic> Mars->Moon Moon and mars are friends but Mars is natural malefic and> Moon Natural benefic.>>& gt; Also What if even such combination planets dasha/antardasha are there> and such planet combinations are either angles or Trines to each> other ... Does that make any difference?> say Jup-Venus are in kendra to each other> or Say moon and mars are trine to each other.>> regards> astro_learn>>>>>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... 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