ANSWER: Puzzle on guessing event

January 26, 2004

Namaste friends,

Like I said, a lot of people were very close. Most of you guessed the broad area

correctly. I will give the answer to the puzzle.

The event was receving a good job offer on telephone (which was eventually

accepted). At the given time, I was talking to the director of software at a

company and received a verbal job offer from him, which I basically indicated

was acceptable to me. I'll be joining them after two weeks.

Predicting a telephone call or predicting a job offer is not easy. Predicting

good time in career and predicting a positive change in career is more

practical. Many of you did it quite admirably. Congratulations!

A lot of you thought there was a promotion or some kind of recognition in

career. That is perhaps as correct as it can get. It's not completely accurate,

but almost correct. A good job offer is pretty much like a promotion and

certainly a recognition. When you use fine techniques like daily charts, the

two are indistinguishable. Only higher level things like Vimsottari dasa

antardasa, when correlated, can help one in distinguishing the two. It's not

easy to be very specific when guessing the event.

If I give an astrological explanation of how one could've solved this puzzle,

it'll be dishonest. From my vantage point, the puzzle was not to identify the

event but to see if a known [desired] event could happen at all and then to

time it. Thus the puzzle was totally different from my perspective. I'll

provide my astrological reasoning from my vantage point. I'll explain how I

thought, starting from a couple of months back.

If you want to know how to solve the puzzle, read the attempts of others. You'll

get a pretty good idea, as there were pretty good attempts (even before I

dropped clues!).

* * *

First see the forest and then see the trees (and then see the leaves on the tree

and then see the cells in the leaf :-) ).

Let us check Vimsottari dasa of the natal chart. Mercury-Mars antardasa is

running now. Mars is the 8th lord from lagna and occupies 8th from dasa lord

Mercury, both in D-10. Thus, this AD gives changes. I changed job at the

beginning of this AD (on July 17, 2003).

During Nov 2-Dec 28, 2003, Saturn PD in this AD was to run. I was extremely

nervous before this PD started. Why?

Because Saturn is 6th lord (sercvidce) in marana karaka sthana in D-10! From AD

lord Mars, he is 3rd lord showing a break in service. There was a good chance

of losing job. Moreover, annual Tithi Pravesha chart also had similar

indications. Saturn's Tithi Ashottari dasa was running in Nov 2003. Saturn is

badhaka in D-10 and occupiues the 7th house of break in service (7th is 2nd -

maraka - from 6th - service). As if that wasn't enough, annual Tajaka chart

showed the same thing. Patyayini dasa of Sun was to run from Oct 21 to Dec 19.

Sun is the badhaka lord in 8th house in D-10. All these factors show job loss

in Nov-Dec, 2003. So I was prepared for the worst. I noticed all these things

in Sept-Oct timeframe and was concerned.

In the middle of Nov 2003, the CEO of my company told us that there were some

financial problems and that there would be a layoff soon. I was the last hired

person (hired in July 2003) and was supposed to work on a next generation

product which was postponed and not really working on anything critical. Others

were working on key things. So it seemed likely that I would be laid off. The

natal chart, TP chart and Tajaka chart also showed the same thing. I was doing

several poojas during that week. :-)

Finally, when the 30% layoff took place on Nov 21, I was spared. I was asked to

take over the work that a laid off colleague was doing (but the guy left after

Jupiter's annual TA dasa started. So Robben was spot on about what happened in

Jupiter dasa - even though it did not happen on Jan 21, it happened in the same

dasa she was commenting on!). It wasn't too challenging, i.e. not what I

originally went to the company to do, and also I was sorry for that guy. Though

I was glad I kept my job, I wondered if I should find another job and give back

that job to that guy. I did not start full-fledged job search, but sent my

resume to one place that was an excellent fit for me. That place, which is a

great fit for my background, opened some reqs (job openings) the same day I

joined my current company (in July 2003) and I saw the ad after returning from

the first day of work on July 17, but I did not think it was appropriate to

pursue it just after joining a new job. Now, after this layoff, I sent my

resume there.

Mercury PD as per natal Vimsottari dasa was to start on Dec 28, 2003. I was

looking forward to it. While I was scared of the PD of Saturn in marana karaka

sthana, I was excited about the PD of lagna lord Mercury in 9th (in D-10)!

Another reason was that the commencement chart of Saturn PD had Saturn in 8th

(duh), while the commencement chart of Mercuy PD had Mercury in 2nd (cool).

Even as per Tajaka, Moon-Jupter AD as per Patyayini dasa was to run during Jan

11-27, 2004. Moon is 6th lord in rasi and Jupiter in in 6th. In D-10, Moon in

3rd and exalted Jupiter in 10th have an exchange! This strongly shows some good

changes in career. Moon-Jupiter AD is a strong candidate. So I had high hopes

from these 2 weeks. During Jan 19-29, it was Jupiter-Jupiter AD as per TA dasa

in annual TP chart too. Jupiter is the 9th lord from lagna in AL in 4th in

D-10. That also shows a positive time. So I had hopes for the second half of

Jan.

As per Narayana dasa of D-10 (of the annual TP chart), the middle one-third of

Aq dasa is during Jan 10-27. This period also intersects with the above! Aq is

lorded by Saturn and Rahu. One lord Saturn is in exalted 7th, showing the end

of a job. The other one, Rahu, is in 12th, showing the end of worries (badhaka

lord in 12th sho0ws end of worries). This also gave me comfort. Though I sent

my resume in 2003 itself, I thought it could work out only in Jan.

As I was expecting, they did not act on my resume during the holiday season.

After the new year came (i.e. Mercury PD as per natal Vimsottari came), they

contacted me. The interview took place eventually and I found out that they

wanted to make an offer. I was expecting the offer on Jan 21, 2004, due to the

strength of the daily TP chart (DTPC) on that day. It was supposed to happen a

few days earlier, but it got postponed for some reason or the other.

In the DTPC of Jan 21, hora lord is Moon. He is the ruler of the day. He has a

VRY in rasi chart. He owns the 6th house of livelihood. More importqantly, he

has a raja yoga with lagna lord Mars in the 5th house in D-10! Moon and Mars

occupy GL (ghatika lagna - recognition, fame and power) in the 5th from lagna!

To make it even more potent, Moon is AmK and Mars is AK!! Both are in benefic

shashtyamsas as well. So I was almost sure the offer would come on that day.

When I got indications on that day morning that the offer would indeed come on

that day, I checked the compressed Vimsottari dasa of the daily chart.

I was almost sure it would be Venus dasa. Why? Because Venus is the 9th lord and

yoga karaka in lagna in rasi chart. He is AL lord in 5th from AL. He is in A3,

which shows tangible communications. Being yogakaraka in lagna in A3, he brings

good communications and cheer thru them. He is in a benefic shashtyamsa

(kshiteesa, i.e. king). Even in D-10, Venus is the 7th lord of interaction in

3rd house of communications and initiative. So I was quite sure the offer would

come after 3:40 pm EST (i.e. in Venus dasa). I had my eyes particularly on 4:25

pm to 4:55 pm (Moon and Mars AD's. Both occupy 5th from lagna - recognition -

and 3rd from dasa lord Venus. Moreover, Moon is the ruler of the day). I

received an email asking me to call him, stepped out of office and called him,

received the details of the offer on phone and told him to go ahead and fedex

the offer letter. This happened around 4:30 pm, in Venus-Moon.

* * *

Those who are curious can check the daily chart for the forenoon of Monday (Jan

26, 2004), to see a followup event. The data is: 25th January 2004, 9:56:38 pm

(IST).

The ruler of the day (hora lord) is Mercury. He is strong in own sign in the 7th

house (Ge) in D-10. The 7th house is the 2nd (maraka) from 6th (service). No

wonder I gave my two-week notice of termination in the forenoon of Jan 26 at my

current company! A planet strongly placed in 7th in D-10 can bring the end of a

job. Especially so, if the planet is the ruler of the day.

However, in the same D-10, the 9th lord Sun is in Sg lagna and lagna lord

Jupiter is in 5th with 5th lord Mars. This combination would make one expect

recognition and fame in the day. Though the ruler of the day, Mercury, shows a

resignation or job loss, lagna and lagna lord show some recognition. This can

make one guess that this is not a layoff, but a resignation where the boss

wanted to see if there was a way to keep the native.

To see how the day would be for the boss, look at the 9th lord's graha arudha in

D-10. It is in Aries. From there, the 4th lord Moon is in marana karaka sthana

in 8th, along with enemy Rahu. It was a very bad day for the comfort and

happiness (4th) of boss.

* * *

Never make predictions based just on daily charts. Strong combinations in daily

charts do result in important events, but the exact nature is pretty much

dependent on the natal chart, its dasas and annual and monthly charts.

As I said, see the forest first and then the trees.

When Jyotish works, it works beautifully. But it sometimes does not work.

Clearly, our understanding is imperfect.

* * *

Thanks to all those who attempted the puzzle. Most of you did a great job and congratulations again!

Some of you went in totally wrong directions, but that should not make you

embarrassed. Explaining known past using fancy techniques is one thing and

making predictions in practical cases quite another. Even timing an expected

event (as I demonstrated above, so nicely) is much much easier than guessing an

event totally blindly (as you guys did). It was a great show by all of you who

tried! I am not sure if I myself would've done such a good job.

We all know we are fallible and our understanding of Jyotisha imperfect. It

takes courage to stand trial publicly. Building such courage is a necessary

first step in a complete revival of Jyotisha. As a fellow astrologer and

astrology researcher, I am proud of everybody who attempted the puzzle! Thank

you for taking the time.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha

Message 37849 on vedic astrology :

> Namaste friends,> > An important event happened to me at 4:30 pm EST (i.e.

9:30 pm GMT) > yesterday (i.e. 21st January 2004). At the time of the event, I

was> at Wilimington, Mass, USA (near Boston).> > Can anybody guess what it is?

Can you guess what area of life it is> related to or atleast whether it is a

good event or a bad one? You> can use any astrological technique of your

choice.> > Birthdata:> > April 4, 1970> 5:47:13 pm (IST)> Machilipatnam,

India> 16n10, 81e08> > For those who want to use the daily TP chart, the data

is> > January 21, 2004> 8:28:33 am (IST)> Machilipatnam, India> > But you can

use any technique you want.> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> Narasimha

January 27, 2004

Dear Narasimha,

Eventhough I did not participate in this puzzle I wish to thank you for your valuable input.

Looking at your explanation it sure 'fit' into your personal event.

HOWEVER, I am very surprised that no proper answer has ever been given on the

list to a very serious issue concerning jobs.

Many qualified people are unemployed today for very long periods (some over 2-3

years), changing both mahadasa's and antardasas (in any dasa system) while

their efforts to get a job are fruitless and the cause of many miseries.

Many of them are not as lucky as you were to even get an interview, none the

less not even a response to their application.

Could you please (for the benefit of all here) find the time to describe the

VALID rules for identifying long periods of unemployment for PREDICTIVE

purpose.

My experience so far has failed to identify this particular issue despite the

points that were explained by Sanjay and others under various circumstances

(like D-10 analysis (8th house etc.)).

I usually use some palmistry rules (when available) which very often give proper

indications for such a 'disaster' in a persons life.

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards/Jay Weisshttp://www.alvicomm.comhttp://w1.143.telia.com/~u14304644

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Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, January 27, 2004 3:13 AM

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