Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I have read in some Yoga websites and the ones that are given in this website as well that Hatred is evil and needs to be eradicated,if that is the case how did Lord Krsna support Pandavas who hated Kauravas,ofcourse its a question of chick or chicken,who started the chain was it Kauravas or Pandavas,but the bottom line is no matter what how come there was hatred and war there and that isnt considered evil but hatred now is considered evil? It is well known that Bheema has provoked Kauaravas during his childhood with his immense physical power and that caused Jealosy,same way Draupadi ignited hatred in Duryodana and also insulted Karna during the Swayamwara,if these can be overlooked and allow hatred there why not we allowed to hate our enemies?Isnt it Hypocracy? If all Pandavas where thinking like Arjuna in the start of battlefield then i dont think Kauravas wouldve hated them,because there were generous people in Kauravas,none can beat generosity like Karna who even gave Indra what he asked for,so why didnt the Pandavas not stop their side of hatred all along? Atleast in Ramayana Lord Rama gave Mukthi to Ravana when he killed him whereas Mahabaratha was faught for cheap reasons and Pandavas were no saints starting from their childhood,except for Yudhistra who took acted very cheap when he requested Salya to demoralise Karna,if that isnt crooked then what is?Duryodanas fury was always increased by Bheemas arrogance in their childhood days when he was known to hurt the Kaurava kids all the time,why isnt anyone considering these factors at all? Moreover all these Yogis constantly say we all need to eradicate Ego in order to attain bliss and healthy body etc.But they themselves dont look any healthier and age and die like we all who have Ego so what is this whole concept of not having Ego? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I have read in some Yoga websites and the ones that are given in this website as well that Hatred is evil and needs to be eradicated,if that is the case how did Lord Krsna support Pandavas who hated Kauravas,ofcourse its a question of chick or chicken,who started the chain was it Kauravas or Pandavas,but the bottom line is no matter what how come there was hatred and war there and that isnt considered evil but hatred now is considered evil?It is well known that Bheema has provoked Kauaravas during his childhood with his immense physical power and that caused Jealosy,same way Draupadi ignited hatred in Duryodana and also insulted Karna during the Swayamwara,if these can be overlooked and allow hatred there why not we allowed to hate our enemies?Isnt it Hypocracy? If all Pandavas where thinking like Arjuna in the start of battlefield then i dont think Kauravas wouldve hated them,because there were generous people in Kauravas,none can beat generosity like Karna who even gave Indra what he asked for,so why didnt the Pandavas not stop their side of hatred all along? Atleast in Ramayana Lord Rama gave Mukthi to Ravana when he killed him whereas Mahabaratha was faught for cheap reasons and Pandavas were no saints starting from their childhood,except for Yudhistra who took acted very cheap when he requested Salya to demoralise Karna,if that isnt crooked then what is?Duryodanas fury was always increased by Bheemas arrogance in their childhood days when he was known to hurt the Kaurava kids all the time,why isnt anyone considering these factors at all? Moreover all these Yogis constantly say we all need to eradicate Ego in order to attain bliss and healthy body etc.But they themselves dont look any healthier and age and die like we all who have Ego so what is this whole concept of not having Ego? Hatred between the Pandavas and Kauravas was I think part of the divine plan to bring about the end of demon kings everywhere through the arousal of that conflict. Dhuryodana's hatred and jealousy were bad, no doubt, but he still attained heaven because he acted as per his dharma, just as the Pandavas acted according to their dharma. Dharma in this instance doesn't mean simply to be ego-less or to be arrogant. It is about being in harmony with the divine plan, and acting according to your nature. I suppose in this day and age the divine plan is one of coming harmony and thus being full of ego and pride and hatred is acting adharmic. It is delusional, and thus our real nature is forgotten, which is the Self. We are forgetting God, and thinking that this world exists and no other. Of course the question arises: who can blame us? When all the precepts taught in the scriptures, all the legends, all the possibilities in them seem to be rendered false from mere observation, how can we expect to believe in all this? As for the yogis, I don't know if there ARE any yogis who are ageless, though there are some reports of such things in some biographical accounts of yogis and such, but they're also supposedly open to different planes of consciousness or perception. Maybe those ageless yogis are living in astral bodies and are not in physical form and they don't inhabit physical form unless they choose to. Then again, I've heard this reality is also considered as the afterlife, it is one of the many realms of consciousness and it is certainly not the lowest. So, if amazing things can happen in higher realms of consciousness, I would think that at least some of those amazing possibilities also exist in this realm of consciousness, although possibly a bit more constrained. Perhaps being ego-free is the step to realizing your ageless soul, and divorcing your mind from your body. Then you act as per your dharma, and if God wills you to live agelessly you shall do so, and if he wills you to die prematurely you will do that. In essence you will be dharmic, and live according to God's divine plan whatever that may be, and you won't let your ego get in the way of fulfilling God's plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 An advanced interpretation of Ego is that it highlights seperation between you and the rest of gods creation. In the same advanced interpretation, Zero-Ego considers everything as you, the universal you. Thus when everything in this world is just you, all that you do is wonder, absorb, and are more alive to the circumstance. When in Yoga, they say that it's evil to hate, what's meant is that the thing you hate outside of you is also you. So there is no potential for hate. There evolves potential for unconditional love, as everything is you. So that's why there is neither a compulsion to say thank you nor an expectation to forgive, both of which are transactional behaviours ingrained in cosmo or western culture. Yoga teaches you to forgive, for your own benefit. And unconditionally be thankful. These are the good life tips from yoga, and several more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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