Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Namaste friends, I do not have time to engage in a detailed argument with Pradeep etc. I am making the main point below and withdrawing from this discussion. Chandrashekhar ji wrote: > He has also not told to cast individual charts as he does in case of> special ascendants (Ch5 Shloka9)> in case of Divisional charts. Again while use of Vargas shlokas 52 and> 53 indicate that the signs occupied are to be considered to arrive at> the strengths ( and by implication the results) of planets. He does not> indicate any change due to planetary aspects, as he does in various> other Yogas, not dealing with Varga charts. Pradeep also expressed his views. Unfortunately, people are getting carried away with some basic concepts like nakshatra padas, navamsas and tattvas and going in cycles, not seeing the bigger picture of multiple vargas. It is ok to dig deep into the definition of navamsa. But, for god's sake, recognize navamsa as a chart at the end. If a planet is at 14 deg in Sg, it is in Sg in kshetra chakra, Le in navamsa chakra and Ar in dasamsa chakra. When you recognize Le in navamsa chart and Ar in dasamsa chart as the signs of the zodiac (a 3.33 or 3 degree portion of the zodiac is mapped to these full signs for the purpose of constructing navamsa and dasamsa charts), they obviously follow all the rules mentioned by Parasara like exaltation, debilitation, counting houses, aspects etc. Parasara never limited those concepts to kshetra chakra (rasi chakra). He defined 16 chakras and whatever he said later naturally applies to all charts, unless a chart was specifically mentioned. Regarding aspects in divisional charts, there is an explicit quote from Parasara that establishes them. Please see 39-13 in BPHS (this number is from Santhanam version. If you have GCSharma version, the number will be different. Please check the 13th verse in the chapter on raja yogas). lagna shadvargake chaivameka kheta yutekshite | raaja yogo bhavatyeva nirvisankam dwijottama || 39-13 This means: "O excellent of Brahmins, if the same PLANET is occupying or ASPECTING lagna in the SIX divisional charts belonging to the shadvarga group, it undoubtedly gives a raja yoga". The six charts in shadvarga group are rasi (D-1), hora (D-2), drekkana (D-3), navamsa (D-9), dwadasamsa (D-12) and thrimsamsa (D-30). This clearly means that planets do have aspects in divisional charts also. Atleast rasi drishti (sign aspect) should be valid in divisional charts. In fact, the verse after the above verse talks about the magnitudes of the aspects for seeing the magnitude of yoga and hence it implies that graha drishti (planetary aspect) is being referred to. Rasi drishti of signs and planets does not have magnitudes, only graha drishti of planets does. Understanding the basis of navamsas is one thing and understanding the basis of each varga chart is quite another. In addition, understanding the use of each divisional charts is quite a different matter. Don't get caught in one thing and ignore the other. You can count houses from various references in divisional charts, you can find arudhas of various houses and house lords and find rasi drishti, graha drishti and argalas. There is so much that you can do in divisional charts that is granted by Parasara (and also from our tradition!). The parampara (tradition) of Sri Achyuta Dasa that is represented by Sri Jagannath Centre has a lot of excellent knowledge on divisional charts. Try to stop these trivial arguments and learn the knowledge. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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