Free Will vs Destiny

[Guest guest]

Hi List,

 

Just want to discuss, how much free will a human being has and can

change his destiny through once life time rather than just blaming

everything on destiny/kismet ????? i think we humans have lot of

free will because GOD has given has that capibility...

 

Or even free will is controlled by your destiny ???????????

 

I dont know the answer myself, this topic is open for discussion !!!

 

Good luck to Indian Cricket Team !!!

 

thanks

Abhijeet

[Guest guest]

Hi abhijeet,

I too am a student so no authority to speak on such a

vital topic. However, the little that I know of I

would like to put forward wrt to the topic.

Free Will can be interpreted in 2 ways:

a..courage to fight adversities and

b..the inner-strenght that provides it.

 

If u see 7th. from each house in a horoscope

compliments the house. e.g. 7th.house indicates the

spouse, marriage etc. among numerous other factors

like trade business , partnerships etc.

 

If u look at the 7th. from the 9th. which is

considered fate, destinity, luck or kismet among many

more interpretations....that is the 3rd.house...the

house of courage among many other things...

 

However, only a presence of a fighting planet (Mars,

Sun etc.) would not indicate the power of an

individual to turn destiniy...the 3rd. from the 3rd.

is to be considered too..which is the 5th....the

5th.house will give the one the material to fight

...the knowledge , the creativity, the past karmic

blessings etc...however, one must note that the 5th.is

also the 9th. of the 9th.house and the 9th.is the

5th.from the 5th....here goes ur answer...are they

linked?...very much so..

 

The Respected Gurus and esteemed members may correct

me if I am wrong..

 

humbly,

Souvik

 

--- anr75 <anr75 wrote:

> Hi List,

>

> Just want to discuss, how much free will a human

> being has and can

> change his destiny through once life time rather

> than just blaming

> everything on destiny/kismet ????? i think we humans

> have lot of

> free will because GOD has given has that

> capibility...

>

> Or even free will is controlled by your destiny

> ???????????

>

> I dont know the answer myself, this topic is open

> for discussion !!!

>

> Good luck to Indian Cricket Team !!!

>

> thanks

> Abhijeet

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Ramnarayanji

Glad to see your post after a long time.Your post is worth reading and understanding.

regards

Ananthakrishnan Parthasarathy

short name: Ananth"P.S. RAMANARAYANAN" <p_s_ramanarayanan (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

Dear Viswanadhamji,

It has been quite a long time now since i last responded. i find your

participation in this group has increased in great deal and i am happy about

it. Now coming to the topic under discussion.

You have mentioned about the upachaya houses- 3rd,6th,10th and 11th. Let us look

at Kaalapurusha. Buda and Sani are the lords of these houses(Rahu is also the

co-owner of Kumbha). So far as the gender/linga is concerned for these two

planets there exists a confusion - male/female. When you talk about the

absolute "I" there is no such confusion. What i mean to say is that there is

inherent dualism in these two planets which paves way for options. Should i

lean towards materialism in toto/should i lean towards spirituality in

toto/should i be a disproportionate mixture of these two/should i be a

proportionate mixture of these two?

The 9th and 12th signs of the kaalapurusha are also dual signs. What does these

dual signs indicate? These two signs teach the natural state(sahaja) of dyanamic

silence/sivasakthi swaroopa. The horses are apparently sadhus, but when aroused

exhibit exemplary power(Hayagreeva and horsepower concepts).

Let us take the weaknesses addressed by these planets. Jealousy is addressed by

Buda, Intoxication is addressed by Sani and greed is addressed by Rahu.

Jyotish vidya helps us to understand these temptations in better manner as it is

self luminous(deva and veda are the two sides of the same coin isn't it!).

1,4,7,10 are the kendras called as the sthoola. 2,5,8,11 are the panapharas

called as sookshma. 3,6,9,12 are the apoklimas called as the karana.

When dharma is invoked the lord manifests. This is beautifully explained by

jyotish vidya. When the 9th is invoked, the invocation percolates through 5th

and manifests in 1st. When dharma is invoked the Radha in 5th expresses

herself(bhakthi) and the Lords manifests - 1st(deivagna). On account of the

paraspara karaka priniciples when 9th is invoked the waves create ripples in

3rd(kama),6th(materailistic tendencies) and in 12th(laya). The ripples in turn

create ripples in their corresponding konas(3rd creates ripples in 7th and

11th,6th create ripples in 2nd and 10th, 12th create ripples in 4th and 8th).

In short, no sooner the lord is invoked then we find the entire

personality/individuality undergoes an evoultionary change.

We are currently in Dhanur maasa the 9th sign of the kaalapurusha. We also know

that 1 year of manushyas = 1 day of devas. This Dhanur maasa is the bhrama

muhurtha period of the devas. It is the time when it is said that the gates of

Vaikunta open. There is a subtle hint available here. Dhanur kshetra is the gate

of Vaikunta which in other words mean that 9th is the gate way to the kingdom of

the Lord.

Standing in the gates of the Kingdom of the Lord shall wel join together and say

"AUM NAMO NARAYANAAYA".

Best wishes.

Astrologically yours,

psramanrayanan

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