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Esteemed and revered people,

 

I had 2 dreams so far, that I'm interested in knowing about. i) This

dream occured 3 yrs ago, I dreamt of a divine being who had a

pleasant Orange skin (as opposed to a fiery Orange) and was tall,

young, handsome, serene and clad in a light-blue dhoti who walked

very serenely towards me with a kind gesture of a father and walked

away after a little kiss on the forehead.

ii) 2 days ago, a very, very short dream of a Sanyasi with a very

handsome countenance, middle-aged, clad in off-white and having a

shaven head, with the off-white cloth draped around the head, who

looked at me and said something like, "I will definitely make you

live very well" (not sure of exactly what he said, it may even be

something like "I will definitely save you"). The only parts I

remember is the word "definite", the Sanyasi himself and the pleasant

note of the dream. I remembered it was a dream in the dream itself,

so I went to narrate my dream to someone else regarding how pleasant

it had been.

 

But it is said, a very large portion of our dreams are mere

reflections of our deepest yearnings and don't really call-for

anything along spirituality line. But also it is stated, some dreams

are special. Are these dreams just superflous reflections on some

thoughts from deep-psyche or are true blessings? Being a normal

person who is only somewhat spiritual, I wonder what category the

dreams belong to... Only thing that makes me give weightage is the

extremely realistic, vivid persona of both the divine-being as well

as the Sanyasi in my dreams, whose faces are CRYSTAL CLEAR and vivid

in the mind..., so I'm tempted to ask.

 

Is there a way to tell, as just like anyone, I would be happy to know

if these are not merely one of those boiled out of the stew of

thoughts from the deep psyche....

 

 

Thanks

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Such unusual dreams that recur throughout life are often coming from a PAST LIFE! Perhaps you were killed by a snake in a past life and this fear may recur in dreams in this life....

Dreams are of 4 types:

1. Past life experiences

2. Present life experiences (usually all meddled up and mixed on sub-conscious level)

3. Spiritual dreams with revelations etc. from higher beings

4. Dreams caused by interaction with ghosts and other unwanted beings on subtle level

Do not attach too much significance to dreams....if you follow a spiritual process like chanting you may start having nice spiritual dreams in your sleep, and sleep peacefully....

Ila

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Sree Ven ji,

 

At the risk of being sent to the corner of the class and made to stand

in the 'chicken posture', I would like to add two elements that came

to me as I was reading your thoughtful and supportive posting.

 

The Story of Genesis and the Garden of Eden where Devil came to Eve in

the form of a serpant and showed the Apple of Wisdom!

 

And the Hindu scriptural account of Vasuki, the Divine Serpant who was

engaged to carry out the Samudra manthan, a process that symbolically

has represented Deep Psychoanalysis of the Creation and which brought

forth all the gems of wisdom and power!

 

The Two allegories from the west (middle-east actually!) and east show

the strong association of Snakes with wisdom, with the opening of eyes

and imparting wisdom! Two ancient cultures and their scriptures could

not be wrong! And I am sure there must be similar associations in

other cultures and religions too!

 

Rahu and Ketu are associated with snakes and despite their association

with Asuras -- generally considered less in station than Devas in

terms of beauty of form or of knowledge and wisdom/intellect, surely

were different! They did manage to receive the amrita while other

asuras were enamoured by the Mohini Murti! Perhaps Rahu and Ketu must

not be underestimated for they could manage to see through Lord

Vishnu's Charm and that is no mean feat!

 

Now this does not mean that I am implying that rahu and ketu, willy

nilly would represent wisdom, or opening of one's eyes and all those

good qualities that Snakes (some snakes!) may have been attributed with!

 

I hope I am not rattling anyone's cage by my postings. I have a true

reverance for rattle snakes none of which were seen in a dream or two

but in real 'shows' in South Dakota in U.S.A. once.

 

There used to be a saying in rural Bengal, my Late Mother used to

relate that sticks in my mind. A dream of snakes as an omen, sometimes

indicates that the dreamer or a close relative will have a child soon.

I have never followed that up as a validation exercise so do not know

for sure.

 

RR

 

vedic astrology, sree ven <jyothishishya

wrote:

>

> Good one Rohiniji!

>

> Ironically/interestingly, Geeta (one who posted the query in the

first place) has not raised any objection/dismay/displeasure at your

feedback, to the best of my knowledge. It is the self appointed

police/advisory board/pro bono lawyers/guardian angels doing the talk!

What these people have (deliberately?) overlooked is the significance

of your explicitly expressed empathy and implicitly hinted possible

conscious/ subconscious/ supraconscious reasons behind the sneaky

dreams, I mean snake dreams :-)

>

> On a conscious level, snake dream could stem from one's personal

encounter with an actual snake, as you have mentioned in your

response. ANY experience PERCEIVED as life-threatening one, can haunt

dreams that might fade with time, since this directly deals with

memory. As you said, the fact that man is more cruel when it comes to

survival, should take care of the 'logic' of fear (oxymoron?)

>

> On a subconscious level, as Carl Jung suggested, snake dream is a

motiff belonging to the human 'archetype'; meaning the experience is

universal, cutting across culture, gender, age, time and space. This

explains why someone in Manhattan downtown is more afraid of snakes

(statistically insignificant threat) than other significant threats

such as road accident etc. BTW, snake could mean a lot depending on

spiritual, scientific etc. PREDISPOSITION of the INDIVIDUAL (which is

not known about Ms. Geeta); it can even lead to a serendipitous

discovery (Kekule's dream of snake swallowing its tail- closed loop of

benzene molecular structure)

>

> On a supraconscious level, Rahu is indicated, perhaps; you have

more than hinted at this in your response. You have mentioned about

Mahakaal as well. It follows that appesing/worshipping Rahu/Mahakaal

is a good idea!

>

> Sharing stories (&empathizing) is a nice and perhaps most

effective way of getting a point across, many a time. Talk about epics

on (a)dharma and parables of great religious leaders!

>

> All the same, like you said, it is an individual that decides

which way he/she wants to help the other person...

>

>

>

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

> Mr. Kumar,

>

> It seems that you and your friends were the only one concerned about

> my dry story and decided to take on the role of the class-room monitor

> in this instance as you have tried to in the past a few times, trying

> to control what I should write and what people should post and so on.

> I do not think that is within your mandate as a contributor on this or

> any other forum! Please keep to what you do best and if my style or

> substance rub you the wrong way, or rattle your cage -- please refrain

> from reading what I post (repeated for the Nth time and I will

> continue till the message sinks in!).

>

> RR

>

> vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear RR,

> >

> > well the the scientist story is a good one as it did not form part

> of any question of a member.

> > where as the SNAKE mail was about a question where anyone who could

> answer her question was NEEDED not a dry story to cover her concern

> did ur story solve her fears is all u need to ask urself or anyone

> posting a reply not in line with the question. In ur case u r suposed

> to be more experiened than many members around so a can draw from

> resources if any or direct her to some books, site, person who can

> answer it

> >

> > In my limited knowledge Prasna Marga has some clues but have kept my

> books in a box in the loft for a yr till i finish the construction

> work so can't recall off hand.

> >

> > I can't call that venom, may be there is a suitable word for it still.

> >

> > G B Prashant Kumar

> >

> > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> marriage, family, kids.

> > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and

> CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:06:14 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always

> GOOD or BAD ?? 22/12

> >

> > Dear B. Chowdhury and Sri Kumarji,

> >

> > I am glad that both of you got a chance to beat up on me and were able

> > to expel the venom out of your systems :-)

> >

> > Keeping anger and frustration inside and brooding over it is corrosive

> > to the soul. Did I ever tell you the story of the scientist who was

> > trying to discover the universal solvent that can dissolve anything

> > and everything. His father, an illiterate farmer asked innocently,

> > "Dear son once you have discovered this solvent, where will you

> store it?"

> >

> > OOPS -- SORRY! I forgot that both of you gentlemen are kind of

> > intolerant to stories told by others!

> >

> > Season's greetings ;-)

> >

> > RR

> >

> > vedic astrology, biswajit chowdhury

> > <chowdhury_biswajit wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear GBPK,

> > > I appriciate your reply to RR.Hope your bold will go no.

> > > regards

> > > B.Chowdhury

> > > Kolkata.

> > >

> > > Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@ .> wrote:

> > > Dear RR

> > >

> > > ur story telling is fine pl address her issues as if u had

> > experienced such reverence and sure some stories and remedies will

> > also be in ur memory hep the poor women than scare/nore her.

> > >

> > > But If I were u will suggest some Subramanya [Kartikeya] kavachams

> > or stotra etc. then tell stories.

> > >

> > > G B Prashant Kumar

> > >

> > > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> > marriage, family, kids.

> > > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and

> > CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Friday, December 22, 2006 9:10:13 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always GOOD

> > or BAD ?? SHARING

> > >

> > > JUST SHARING! Don't bite me!!

> > >

> > > over the last thirty years -- have had many snake dreams including

> > > dreams of killing them -- and actually having experienced one

instance

> > > where I killed a cobra and helped/witnessed a few other killings

> > > earlier in my childhood home!

> > >

> > > When it comes to survival or perceived survival -- trust a human

> > > always! There is nothing more CRUEL and CAPABLE at KILLING than

> > > him/her!! Now you know the full story behind our Scriptures!! !

> > >

> > > I was raised in a home that had a huge yard and even a jungle!

It used

> > > to be a home where the Brit resident (circa pre 1947 I assume and

> > > hope?) lived and was a huge wooden home about 125 years old

(back then

> > > in the 50s). Each monsoon, beams from the roofs would crash down

as we

> > > slept outside to avoid the heat (no airconditioning back then!).

> > > Mosquito nets had been invented and in regular use -- in case

some of

> > > the younger uninformed (;-)) folks are wondering!!

> > >

> > > Let me not spook you out completely by describing the fat rats that

> > > lived in the attic and came down the ventilator rope!

> > >

> > > Years later in another newer home -- oh in the 80s a cobra was

spotted

> > > in the bathroom of that second home of mine, poised with hood

> > > stretched up but was it really ready to attack? I do not know! I was

> > > not there, physically!!

> > >

> > > I was never told what they finally did to that snake!

> > >

> > > The area I grew up in was heavily 'populated' with snakes, mostly

> > > Cobras! While fear was there, there was more of a feeling of

> reverence!

> > >

> > > I can through that experience of years understand and empathize with

> > > those who face rahu face to face -- in their private space, like a

> > > bathroom!

> > >

> > > But then, I grew up in an area that was under the blessing and

direct

> > > protection of Mahakaal! I always and still believe that to be the

> case!

> > >

> > > No physical or worldly ties remain anymore with that realm but

it does

> > > not go away from my memory! So, it must be important! Right?

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, geeta charan <charangeeta@

> > ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Gurudev Sadar Pranam,

> > > >

> > > > Date - 23/08/1980

> > > > time - 1-4 am

> > > > Place - Boath Adilabad (AP)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My dreams are of big snakes and snake does bite me sometime But

> > > sometime he rans behind me. Plz suggest some remedy or what is

meaning

> > > of these dreams ?? can any one has answers for these.

> > > >

> > > > As i m getting regularly these dreams and i m afraid of dreams.

> > > plz suggest.

> > > >

> > > > regds

> > > > geeta

> > > >

> > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your

Messenger.

> > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php

> > > >

> > > >

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Can a snake (or bite thereof?) truly and really kill a human, Ila ji,

as you professed and stated?

 

 

If what you say so boldly IS true then there is a big problem! A BIG

confusion!!

 

As has been shared, there is yet another type of dream, the fifth type!

 

KEKULE'S DREAM!

 

The dream that revealed the FUTURE!

 

Perhaps Nostradamuses one falls in that category too!

 

RR

 

vedic astrology, Ila devi dasi MVS

<ila_dd_mvs wrote:

>

> Such unusual dreams that recur throughout life are often coming from

a PAST LIFE! Perhaps you were killed by a snake in a past life and

this fear may recur in dreams in this life....

>

> Dreams are of 4 types:

> 1. Past life experiences

> 2. Present life experiences (usually all meddled up and mixed on

sub-conscious level)

> 3. Spiritual dreams with revelations etc. from higher beings

> 4. Dreams caused by interaction with ghosts and other unwanted

beings on subtle level

>

> Do not attach too much significance to dreams....if you follow a

spiritual process like chanting you may start having nice spiritual

dreams in your sleep, and sleep peacefully....

>

> Ila

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

> Dear Sree Ven ji,

>

> At the risk of being sent to the corner of the class and made to stand

> in the 'chicken posture', I would like to add two elements that came

> to me as I was reading your thoughtful and supportive posting.

>

> The Story of Genesis and the Garden of Eden where Devil came to Eve in

> the form of a serpant and showed the Apple of Wisdom!

>

> And the Hindu scriptural account of Vasuki, the Divine Serpant who was

> engaged to carry out the Samudra manthan, a process that symbolically

> has represented Deep Psychoanalysis of the Creation and which brought

> forth all the gems of wisdom and power!

>

> The Two allegories from the west (middle-east actually!) and east show

> the strong association of Snakes with wisdom, with the opening of eyes

> and imparting wisdom! Two ancient cultures and their scriptures could

> not be wrong! And I am sure there must be similar associations in

> other cultures and religions too!

>

> Rahu and Ketu are associated with snakes and despite their association

> with Asuras -- generally considered less in station than Devas in

> terms of beauty of form or of knowledge and wisdom/intellect, surely

> were different! They did manage to receive the amrita while other

> asuras were enamoured by the Mohini Murti! Perhaps Rahu and Ketu must

> not be underestimated for they could manage to see through Lord

> Vishnu's Charm and that is no mean feat!

>

> Now this does not mean that I am implying that rahu and ketu, willy

> nilly would represent wisdom, or opening of one's eyes and all those

> good qualities that Snakes (some snakes!) may have been attributed with!

>

> I hope I am not rattling anyone's cage by my postings. I have a true

> reverance for rattle snakes none of which were seen in a dream or two

> but in real 'shows' in South Dakota in U.S.A. once.

>

> There used to be a saying in rural Bengal, my Late Mother used to

> relate that sticks in my mind. A dream of snakes as an omen, sometimes

> indicates that the dreamer or a close relative will have a child soon.

> I have never followed that up as a validation exercise so do not know

> for sure.

>

> RR

>

> vedic astrology, sree ven <jyothishishya@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Good one Rohiniji!

> >

> > Ironically/interestingly, Geeta (one who posted the query in the

> first place) has not raised any objection/dismay/displeasure at your

> feedback, to the best of my knowledge. It is the self appointed

> police/advisory board/pro bono lawyers/guardian angels doing the talk!

> What these people have (deliberately?) overlooked is the significance

> of your explicitly expressed empathy and implicitly hinted possible

> conscious/ subconscious/ supraconscious reasons behind the sneaky

> dreams, I mean snake dreams :-)

> >

> > On a conscious level, snake dream could stem from one's personal

> encounter with an actual snake, as you have mentioned in your

> response. ANY experience PERCEIVED as life-threatening one, can haunt

> dreams that might fade with time, since this directly deals with

> memory. As you said, the fact that man is more cruel when it comes to

> survival, should take care of the 'logic' of fear (oxymoron?)

> >

> > On a subconscious level, as Carl Jung suggested, snake dream is a

> motiff belonging to the human 'archetype'; meaning the experience is

> universal, cutting across culture, gender, age, time and space. This

> explains why someone in Manhattan downtown is more afraid of snakes

> (statistically insignificant threat) than other significant threats

> such as road accident etc. BTW, snake could mean a lot depending on

> spiritual, scientific etc. PREDISPOSITION of the INDIVIDUAL (which is

> not known about Ms. Geeta); it can even lead to a serendipitous

> discovery (Kekule's dream of snake swallowing its tail- closed loop of

> benzene molecular structure)

> >

> > On a supraconscious level, Rahu is indicated, perhaps; you have

> more than hinted at this in your response. You have mentioned about

> Mahakaal as well. It follows that appesing/worshipping Rahu/Mahakaal

> is a good idea!

> >

> > Sharing stories (&empathizing) is a nice and perhaps most

> effective way of getting a point across, many a time. Talk about epics

> on (a)dharma and parables of great religious leaders!

> >

> > All the same, like you said, it is an individual that decides

> which way he/she wants to help the other person...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > Mr. Kumar,

> >

> > It seems that you and your friends were the only one concerned about

> > my dry story and decided to take on the role of the class-room monitor

> > in this instance as you have tried to in the past a few times, trying

> > to control what I should write and what people should post and so on.

> > I do not think that is within your mandate as a contributor on this or

> > any other forum! Please keep to what you do best and if my style or

> > substance rub you the wrong way, or rattle your cage -- please refrain

> > from reading what I post (repeated for the Nth time and I will

> > continue till the message sinks in!).

> >

> > RR

> >

> > vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear RR,

> > >

> > > well the the scientist story is a good one as it did not form part

> > of any question of a member.

> > > where as the SNAKE mail was about a question where anyone who could

> > answer her question was NEEDED not a dry story to cover her concern

> > did ur story solve her fears is all u need to ask urself or anyone

> > posting a reply not in line with the question. In ur case u r suposed

> > to be more experiened than many members around so a can draw from

> > resources if any or direct her to some books, site, person who can

> > answer it

> > >

> > > In my limited knowledge Prasna Marga has some clues but have kept my

> > books in a box in the loft for a yr till i finish the construction

> > work so can't recall off hand.

> > >

> > > I can't call that venom, may be there is a suitable word for it

still.

> > >

> > > G B Prashant Kumar

> > >

> > > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> > marriage, family, kids.

> > > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and

> > CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:06:14 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always

> > GOOD or BAD ?? 22/12

> > >

> > > Dear B. Chowdhury and Sri Kumarji,

> > >

> > > I am glad that both of you got a chance to beat up on me and

were able

> > > to expel the venom out of your systems :-)

> > >

> > > Keeping anger and frustration inside and brooding over it is

corrosive

> > > to the soul. Did I ever tell you the story of the scientist who was

> > > trying to discover the universal solvent that can dissolve anything

> > > and everything. His father, an illiterate farmer asked innocently,

> > > "Dear son once you have discovered this solvent, where will you

> > store it?"

> > >

> > > OOPS -- SORRY! I forgot that both of you gentlemen are kind of

> > > intolerant to stories told by others!

> > >

> > > Season's greetings ;-)

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, biswajit chowdhury

> > > <chowdhury_biswajit wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear GBPK,

> > > > I appriciate your reply to RR.Hope your bold will go no.

> > > > regards

> > > > B.Chowdhury

> > > > Kolkata.

> > > >

> > > > Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@ .> wrote:

> > > > Dear RR

> > > >

> > > > ur story telling is fine pl address her issues as if u had

> > > experienced such reverence and sure some stories and remedies will

> > > also be in ur memory hep the poor women than scare/nore her.

> > > >

> > > > But If I were u will suggest some Subramanya [Kartikeya] kavachams

> > > or stotra etc. then tell stories.

> > > >

> > > > G B Prashant Kumar

> > > >

> > > > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> > > marriage, family, kids.

> > > > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal

mail and

> > > CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Friday, December 22, 2006 9:10:13 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always GOOD

> > > or BAD ?? SHARING

> > > >

> > > > JUST SHARING! Don't bite me!!

> > > >

> > > > over the last thirty years -- have had many snake dreams including

> > > > dreams of killing them -- and actually having experienced one

> instance

> > > > where I killed a cobra and helped/witnessed a few other killings

> > > > earlier in my childhood home!

> > > >

> > > > When it comes to survival or perceived survival -- trust a human

> > > > always! There is nothing more CRUEL and CAPABLE at KILLING than

> > > > him/her!! Now you know the full story behind our Scriptures!! !

> > > >

> > > > I was raised in a home that had a huge yard and even a jungle!

> It used

> > > > to be a home where the Brit resident (circa pre 1947 I assume and

> > > > hope?) lived and was a huge wooden home about 125 years old

> (back then

> > > > in the 50s). Each monsoon, beams from the roofs would crash down

> as we

> > > > slept outside to avoid the heat (no airconditioning back then!).

> > > > Mosquito nets had been invented and in regular use -- in case

> some of

> > > > the younger uninformed (;-)) folks are wondering!!

> > > >

> > > > Let me not spook you out completely by describing the fat rats

that

> > > > lived in the attic and came down the ventilator rope!

> > > >

> > > > Years later in another newer home -- oh in the 80s a cobra was

> spotted

> > > > in the bathroom of that second home of mine, poised with hood

> > > > stretched up but was it really ready to attack? I do not know!

I was

> > > > not there, physically!!

> > > >

> > > > I was never told what they finally did to that snake!

> > > >

> > > > The area I grew up in was heavily 'populated' with snakes, mostly

> > > > Cobras! While fear was there, there was more of a feeling of

> > reverence!

> > > >

> > > > I can through that experience of years understand and

empathize with

> > > > those who face rahu face to face -- in their private space, like a

> > > > bathroom!

> > > >

> > > > But then, I grew up in an area that was under the blessing and

> direct

> > > > protection of Mahakaal! I always and still believe that to be the

> > case!

> > > >

> > > > No physical or worldly ties remain anymore with that realm but

> it does

> > > > not go away from my memory! So, it must be important! Right?

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, geeta charan

<charangeeta@

> > > ...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Gurudev Sadar Pranam,

> > > > >

> > > > > Date - 23/08/1980

> > > > > time - 1-4 am

> > > > > Place - Boath Adilabad (AP)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > My dreams are of big snakes and snake does bite me sometime But

> > > > sometime he rans behind me. Plz suggest some remedy or what is

> meaning

> > > > of these dreams ?? can any one has answers for these.

> > > > >

> > > > > As i m getting regularly these dreams and i m afraid of dreams.

> > > > plz suggest.

> > > > >

> > > > > regds

> > > > > geeta

> > > > >

> > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your

> Messenger.

> > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Hi Folks

Time to move on to another subject.

whatever be the dreams made of. I am bored

If you guys have time please help with horoscope reading.

So that I can atleast learn...or help a good Soul.

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Can a snake (or bite thereof?) truly and really kill a human, Ila ji,

as you professed and stated?

 

If what you say so boldly IS true then there is a big problem! A BIG

confusion!!

 

As has been shared, there is yet another type of dream, the fifth type!

 

KEKULE'S DREAM!

 

The dream that revealed the FUTURE!

 

Perhaps Nostradamuses one falls in that category too!

 

RR

 

vedic astrology, Ila devi dasi MVS

<ila_dd_mvs wrote:

>

> Such unusual dreams that recur throughout life are often coming from

a PAST LIFE! Perhaps you were killed by a snake in a past life and

this fear may recur in dreams in this life....

>

> Dreams are of 4 types:

> 1. Past life experiences

> 2. Present life experiences (usually all meddled up and mixed on

sub-conscious level)

> 3. Spiritual dreams with revelations etc. from higher beings

> 4. Dreams caused by interaction with ghosts and other unwanted

beings on subtle level

>

> Do not attach too much significance to dreams....if you follow a

spiritual process like chanting you may start having nice spiritual

dreams in your sleep, and sleep peacefully....

>

> Ila

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

> Dear Sree Ven ji,

>

> At the risk of being sent to the corner of the class and made to stand

> in the 'chicken posture', I would like to add two elements that came

> to me as I was reading your thoughtful and supportive posting.

>

> The Story of Genesis and the Garden of Eden where Devil came to Eve in

> the form of a serpant and showed the Apple of Wisdom!

>

> And the Hindu scriptural account of Vasuki, the Divine Serpant who was

> engaged to carry out the Samudra manthan, a process that symbolically

> has represented Deep Psychoanalysis of the Creation and which brought

> forth all the gems of wisdom and power!

>

> The Two allegories from the west (middle-east actually!) and east show

> the strong association of Snakes with wisdom, with the opening of eyes

> and imparting wisdom! Two ancient cultures and their scriptures could

> not be wrong! And I am sure there must be similar associations in

> other cultures and religions too!

>

> Rahu and Ketu are associated with snakes and despite their association

> with Asuras -- generally considered less in station than Devas in

> terms of beauty of form or of knowledge and wisdom/intellect, surely

> were different! They did manage to receive the amrita while other

> asuras were enamoured by the Mohini Murti! Perhaps Rahu and Ketu must

> not be underestimated for they could manage to see through Lord

> Vishnu's Charm and that is no mean feat!

>

> Now this does not mean that I am implying that rahu and ketu, willy

> nilly would represent wisdom, or opening of one's eyes and all those

> good qualities that Snakes (some snakes!) may have been attributed with!

>

> I hope I am not rattling anyone's cage by my postings. I have a true

> reverance for rattle snakes none of which were seen in a dream or two

> but in real 'shows' in South Dakota in U.S.A. once.

>

> There used to be a saying in rural Bengal, my Late Mother used to

> relate that sticks in my mind. A dream of snakes as an omen, sometimes

> indicates that the dreamer or a close relative will have a child soon.

> I have never followed that up as a validation exercise so do not know

> for sure.

>

> RR

>

> vedic astrology, sree ven <jyothishishya@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Good one Rohiniji!

> >

> > Ironically/interestingly, Geeta (one who posted the query in the

> first place) has not raised any objection/dismay/displeasure at your

> feedback, to the best of my knowledge. It is the self appointed

> police/advisory board/pro bono lawyers/guardian angels doing the talk!

> What these people have (deliberately?) overlooked is the significance

> of your explicitly expressed empathy and implicitly hinted possible

> conscious/ subconscious/ supraconscious reasons behind the sneaky

> dreams, I mean snake dreams :-)

> >

> > On a conscious level, snake dream could stem from one's personal

> encounter with an actual snake, as you have mentioned in your

> response. ANY experience PERCEIVED as life-threatening one, can haunt

> dreams that might fade with time, since this directly deals with

> memory. As you said, the fact that man is more cruel when it comes to

> survival, should take care of the 'logic' of fear (oxymoron?)

> >

> > On a subconscious level, as Carl Jung suggested, snake dream is a

> motiff belonging to the human 'archetype'; meaning the experience is

> universal, cutting across culture, gender, age, time and space. This

> explains why someone in Manhattan downtown is more afraid of snakes

> (statistically insignificant threat) than other significant threats

> such as road accident etc. BTW, snake could mean a lot depending on

> spiritual, scientific etc. PREDISPOSITION of the INDIVIDUAL (which is

> not known about Ms. Geeta); it can even lead to a serendipitous

> discovery (Kekule's dream of snake swallowing its tail- closed loop of

> benzene molecular structure)

> >

> > On a supraconscious level, Rahu is indicated, perhaps; you have

> more than hinted at this in your response. You have mentioned about

> Mahakaal as well. It follows that appesing/worshipping Rahu/Mahakaal

> is a good idea!

> >

> > Sharing stories (&empathizing) is a nice and perhaps most

> effective way of getting a point across, many a time. Talk about epics

> on (a)dharma and parables of great religious leaders!

> >

> > All the same, like you said, it is an individual that decides

> which way he/she wants to help the other person...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > Mr. Kumar,

> >

> > It seems that you and your friends were the only one concerned about

> > my dry story and decided to take on the role of the class-room monitor

> > in this instance as you have tried to in the past a few times, trying

> > to control what I should write and what people should post and so on.

> > I do not think that is within your mandate as a contributor on this or

> > any other forum! Please keep to what you do best and if my style or

> > substance rub you the wrong way, or rattle your cage -- please refrain

> > from reading what I post (repeated for the Nth time and I will

> > continue till the message sinks in!).

> >

> > RR

> >

> > vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear RR,

> > >

> > > well the the scientist story is a good one as it did not form part

> > of any question of a member.

> > > where as the SNAKE mail was about a question where anyone who could

> > answer her question was NEEDED not a dry story to cover her concern

> > did ur story solve her fears is all u need to ask urself or anyone

> > posting a reply not in line with the question. In ur case u r suposed

> > to be more experiened than many members around so a can draw from

> > resources if any or direct her to some books, site, person who can

> > answer it

> > >

> > > In my limited knowledge Prasna Marga has some clues but have kept my

> > books in a box in the loft for a yr till i finish the construction

> > work so can't recall off hand.

> > >

> > > I can't call that venom, may be there is a suitable word for it

still.

> > >

> > > G B Prashant Kumar

> > >

> > > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> > marriage, family, kids.

> > > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and

> > CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:06:14 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always

> > GOOD or BAD ?? 22/12

> > >

> > > Dear B. Chowdhury and Sri Kumarji,

> > >

> > > I am glad that both of you got a chance to beat up on me and

were able

> > > to expel the venom out of your systems :-)

> > >

> > > Keeping anger and frustration inside and brooding over it is

corrosive

> > > to the soul. Did I ever tell you the story of the scientist who was

> > > trying to discover the universal solvent that can dissolve anything

> > > and everything. His father, an illiterate farmer asked innocently,

> > > "Dear son once you have discovered this solvent, where will you

> > store it?"

> > >

> > > OOPS -- SORRY! I forgot that both of you gentlemen are kind of

> > > intolerant to stories told by others!

> > >

> > > Season's greetings ;-)

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, biswajit chowdhury

> > > <chowdhury_biswajit wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear GBPK,

> > > > I appriciate your reply to RR.Hope your bold will go no.

> > > > regards

> > > > B.Chowdhury

> > > > Kolkata.

> > > >

> > > > Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@ .> wrote:

> > > > Dear RR

> > > >

> > > > ur story telling is fine pl address her issues as if u had

> > > experienced such reverence and sure some stories and remedies will

> > > also be in ur memory hep the poor women than scare/nore her.

> > > >

> > > > But If I were u will suggest some Subramanya [Kartikeya] kavachams

> > > or stotra etc. then tell stories.

> > > >

> > > > G B Prashant Kumar

> > > >

> > > > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> > > marriage, family, kids.

> > > > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal

mail and

> > > CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Friday, December 22, 2006 9:10:13 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always GOOD

> > > or BAD ?? SHARING

> > > >

> > > > JUST SHARING! Don't bite me!!

> > > >

> > > > over the last thirty years -- have had many snake dreams including

> > > > dreams of killing them -- and actually having experienced one

> instance

> > > > where I killed a cobra and helped/witnessed a few other killings

> > > > earlier in my childhood home!

> > > >

> > > > When it comes to survival or perceived survival -- trust a human

> > > > always! There is nothing more CRUEL and CAPABLE at KILLING than

> > > > him/her!! Now you know the full story behind our Scriptures!! !

> > > >

> > > > I was raised in a home that had a huge yard and even a jungle!

> It used

> > > > to be a home where the Brit resident (circa pre 1947 I assume and

> > > > hope?) lived and was a huge wooden home about 125 years old

> (back then

> > > > in the 50s). Each monsoon, beams from the roofs would crash down

> as we

> > > > slept outside to avoid the heat (no airconditioning back then!).

> > > > Mosquito nets had been invented and in regular use -- in case

> some of

> > > > the younger uninformed (;-)) folks are wondering!!

> > > >

> > > > Let me not spook you out completely by describing the fat rats

that

> > > > lived in the attic and came down the ventilator rope!

> > > >

> > > > Years later in another newer home -- oh in the 80s a cobra was

> spotted

> > > > in the bathroom of that second home of mine, poised with hood

> > > > stretched up but was it really ready to attack? I do not know!

I was

> > > > not there, physically!!

> > > >

> > > > I was never told what they finally did to that snake!

> > > >

> > > > The area I grew up in was heavily 'populated' with snakes, mostly

> > > > Cobras! While fear was there, there was more of a feeling of

> > reverence!

> > > >

> > > > I can through that experience of years understand and

empathize with

> > > > those who face rahu face to face -- in their private space, like a

> > > > bathroom!

> > > >

> > > > But then, I grew up in an area that was under the blessing and

> direct

> > > > protection of Mahakaal! I always and still believe that to be the

> > case!

> > > >

> > > > No physical or worldly ties remain anymore with that realm but

> it does

> > > > not go away from my memory! So, it must be important! Right?

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, geeta charan

<charangeeta@

> > > ...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Gurudev Sadar Pranam,

> > > > >

> > > > > Date - 23/08/1980

> > > > > time - 1-4 am

> > > > > Place - Boath Adilabad (AP)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > My dreams are of big snakes and snake does bite me sometime But

> > > > sometime he rans behind me. Plz suggest some remedy or what is

> meaning

> > > > of these dreams ?? can any one has answers for these.

> > > > >

> > > > > As i m getting regularly these dreams and i m afraid of dreams.

> > > > plz suggest.

> > > > >

> > > > > regds

> > > > > geeta

> > > > >

> > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your

> Messenger.

> > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Wise Friend,

 

Another perspective is offered!

 

Just like we have a reality at work, the daily rat race and there is a

reality that we live when we go on vacation!

 

Both are real but must not be mixed! When working we must not think of

vacations and when we are on vacation, not think about work!

 

Perhaps same could be true for dream reality and awake-reality!

 

I do not have any scriptural reference to offer, and can only share

experiential reality and not borrowed thoughts and phrases, no matter

how lofty and heart-touching ;-)

 

RR

 

 

vedic astrology, Ila devi dasi MVS

<ila_dd_mvs wrote:

>

> Such unusual dreams that recur throughout life are often coming from

a PAST LIFE! Perhaps you were killed by a snake in a past life and

this fear may recur in dreams in this life....

>

> Dreams are of 4 types:

> 1. Past life experiences

> 2. Present life experiences (usually all meddled up and mixed on

sub-conscious level)

> 3. Spiritual dreams with revelations etc. from higher beings

> 4. Dreams caused by interaction with ghosts and other unwanted

beings on subtle level

>

> Do not attach too much significance to dreams....if you follow a

spiritual process like chanting you may start having nice spiritual

dreams in your sleep, and sleep peacefully....

>

> Ila

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

> Dear Sree Ven ji,

>

> At the risk of being sent to the corner of the class and made to stand

> in the 'chicken posture', I would like to add two elements that came

> to me as I was reading your thoughtful and supportive posting.

>

> The Story of Genesis and the Garden of Eden where Devil came to Eve in

> the form of a serpant and showed the Apple of Wisdom!

>

> And the Hindu scriptural account of Vasuki, the Divine Serpant who was

> engaged to carry out the Samudra manthan, a process that symbolically

> has represented Deep Psychoanalysis of the Creation and which brought

> forth all the gems of wisdom and power!

>

> The Two allegories from the west (middle-east actually!) and east show

> the strong association of Snakes with wisdom, with the opening of eyes

> and imparting wisdom! Two ancient cultures and their scriptures could

> not be wrong! And I am sure there must be similar associations in

> other cultures and religions too!

>

> Rahu and Ketu are associated with snakes and despite their association

> with Asuras -- generally considered less in station than Devas in

> terms of beauty of form or of knowledge and wisdom/intellect, surely

> were different! They did manage to receive the amrita while other

> asuras were enamoured by the Mohini Murti! Perhaps Rahu and Ketu must

> not be underestimated for they could manage to see through Lord

> Vishnu's Charm and that is no mean feat!

>

> Now this does not mean that I am implying that rahu and ketu, willy

> nilly would represent wisdom, or opening of one's eyes and all those

> good qualities that Snakes (some snakes!) may have been attributed with!

>

> I hope I am not rattling anyone's cage by my postings. I have a true

> reverance for rattle snakes none of which were seen in a dream or two

> but in real 'shows' in South Dakota in U.S.A. once.

>

> There used to be a saying in rural Bengal, my Late Mother used to

> relate that sticks in my mind. A dream of snakes as an omen, sometimes

> indicates that the dreamer or a close relative will have a child soon.

> I have never followed that up as a validation exercise so do not know

> for sure.

>

> RR

>

> vedic astrology, sree ven <jyothishishya@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Good one Rohiniji!

> >

> > Ironically/interestingly, Geeta (one who posted the query in the

> first place) has not raised any objection/dismay/displeasure at your

> feedback, to the best of my knowledge. It is the self appointed

> police/advisory board/pro bono lawyers/guardian angels doing the talk!

> What these people have (deliberately?) overlooked is the significance

> of your explicitly expressed empathy and implicitly hinted possible

> conscious/ subconscious/ supraconscious reasons behind the sneaky

> dreams, I mean snake dreams :-)

> >

> > On a conscious level, snake dream could stem from one's personal

> encounter with an actual snake, as you have mentioned in your

> response. ANY experience PERCEIVED as life-threatening one, can haunt

> dreams that might fade with time, since this directly deals with

> memory. As you said, the fact that man is more cruel when it comes to

> survival, should take care of the 'logic' of fear (oxymoron?)

> >

> > On a subconscious level, as Carl Jung suggested, snake dream is a

> motiff belonging to the human 'archetype'; meaning the experience is

> universal, cutting across culture, gender, age, time and space. This

> explains why someone in Manhattan downtown is more afraid of snakes

> (statistically insignificant threat) than other significant threats

> such as road accident etc. BTW, snake could mean a lot depending on

> spiritual, scientific etc. PREDISPOSITION of the INDIVIDUAL (which is

> not known about Ms. Geeta); it can even lead to a serendipitous

> discovery (Kekule's dream of snake swallowing its tail- closed loop of

> benzene molecular structure)

> >

> > On a supraconscious level, Rahu is indicated, perhaps; you have

> more than hinted at this in your response. You have mentioned about

> Mahakaal as well. It follows that appesing/worshipping Rahu/Mahakaal

> is a good idea!

> >

> > Sharing stories (&empathizing) is a nice and perhaps most

> effective way of getting a point across, many a time. Talk about epics

> on (a)dharma and parables of great religious leaders!

> >

> > All the same, like you said, it is an individual that decides

> which way he/she wants to help the other person...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > Mr. Kumar,

> >

> > It seems that you and your friends were the only one concerned about

> > my dry story and decided to take on the role of the class-room monitor

> > in this instance as you have tried to in the past a few times, trying

> > to control what I should write and what people should post and so on.

> > I do not think that is within your mandate as a contributor on this or

> > any other forum! Please keep to what you do best and if my style or

> > substance rub you the wrong way, or rattle your cage -- please refrain

> > from reading what I post (repeated for the Nth time and I will

> > continue till the message sinks in!).

> >

> > RR

> >

> > vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear RR,

> > >

> > > well the the scientist story is a good one as it did not form part

> > of any question of a member.

> > > where as the SNAKE mail was about a question where anyone who could

> > answer her question was NEEDED not a dry story to cover her concern

> > did ur story solve her fears is all u need to ask urself or anyone

> > posting a reply not in line with the question. In ur case u r suposed

> > to be more experiened than many members around so a can draw from

> > resources if any or direct her to some books, site, person who can

> > answer it

> > >

> > > In my limited knowledge Prasna Marga has some clues but have kept my

> > books in a box in the loft for a yr till i finish the construction

> > work so can't recall off hand.

> > >

> > > I can't call that venom, may be there is a suitable word for it

still.

> > >

> > > G B Prashant Kumar

> > >

> > > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> > marriage, family, kids.

> > > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal mail and

> > CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:06:14 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always

> > GOOD or BAD ?? 22/12

> > >

> > > Dear B. Chowdhury and Sri Kumarji,

> > >

> > > I am glad that both of you got a chance to beat up on me and

were able

> > > to expel the venom out of your systems :-)

> > >

> > > Keeping anger and frustration inside and brooding over it is

corrosive

> > > to the soul. Did I ever tell you the story of the scientist who was

> > > trying to discover the universal solvent that can dissolve anything

> > > and everything. His father, an illiterate farmer asked innocently,

> > > "Dear son once you have discovered this solvent, where will you

> > store it?"

> > >

> > > OOPS -- SORRY! I forgot that both of you gentlemen are kind of

> > > intolerant to stories told by others!

> > >

> > > Season's greetings ;-)

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, biswajit chowdhury

> > > <chowdhury_biswajit wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear GBPK,

> > > > I appriciate your reply to RR.Hope your bold will go no.

> > > > regards

> > > > B.Chowdhury

> > > > Kolkata.

> > > >

> > > > Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@ .> wrote:

> > > > Dear RR

> > > >

> > > > ur story telling is fine pl address her issues as if u had

> > > experienced such reverence and sure some stories and remedies will

> > > also be in ur memory hep the poor women than scare/nore her.

> > > >

> > > > But If I were u will suggest some Subramanya [Kartikeya] kavachams

> > > or stotra etc. then tell stories.

> > > >

> > > > G B Prashant Kumar

> > > >

> > > > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> > > marriage, family, kids.

> > > > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal

mail and

> > > CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Friday, December 22, 2006 9:10:13 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always GOOD

> > > or BAD ?? SHARING

> > > >

> > > > JUST SHARING! Don't bite me!!

> > > >

> > > > over the last thirty years -- have had many snake dreams including

> > > > dreams of killing them -- and actually having experienced one

> instance

> > > > where I killed a cobra and helped/witnessed a few other killings

> > > > earlier in my childhood home!

> > > >

> > > > When it comes to survival or perceived survival -- trust a human

> > > > always! There is nothing more CRUEL and CAPABLE at KILLING than

> > > > him/her!! Now you know the full story behind our Scriptures!! !

> > > >

> > > > I was raised in a home that had a huge yard and even a jungle!

> It used

> > > > to be a home where the Brit resident (circa pre 1947 I assume and

> > > > hope?) lived and was a huge wooden home about 125 years old

> (back then

> > > > in the 50s). Each monsoon, beams from the roofs would crash down

> as we

> > > > slept outside to avoid the heat (no airconditioning back then!).

> > > > Mosquito nets had been invented and in regular use -- in case

> some of

> > > > the younger uninformed (;-)) folks are wondering!!

> > > >

> > > > Let me not spook you out completely by describing the fat rats

that

> > > > lived in the attic and came down the ventilator rope!

> > > >

> > > > Years later in another newer home -- oh in the 80s a cobra was

> spotted

> > > > in the bathroom of that second home of mine, poised with hood

> > > > stretched up but was it really ready to attack? I do not know!

I was

> > > > not there, physically!!

> > > >

> > > > I was never told what they finally did to that snake!

> > > >

> > > > The area I grew up in was heavily 'populated' with snakes, mostly

> > > > Cobras! While fear was there, there was more of a feeling of

> > reverence!

> > > >

> > > > I can through that experience of years understand and

empathize with

> > > > those who face rahu face to face -- in their private space, like a

> > > > bathroom!

> > > >

> > > > But then, I grew up in an area that was under the blessing and

> direct

> > > > protection of Mahakaal! I always and still believe that to be the

> > case!

> > > >

> > > > No physical or worldly ties remain anymore with that realm but

> it does

> > > > not go away from my memory! So, it must be important! Right?

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, geeta charan

<charangeeta@

> > > ...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Gurudev Sadar Pranam,

> > > > >

> > > > > Date - 23/08/1980

> > > > > time - 1-4 am

> > > > > Place - Boath Adilabad (AP)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > My dreams are of big snakes and snake does bite me sometime But

> > > > sometime he rans behind me. Plz suggest some remedy or what is

> meaning

> > > > of these dreams ?? can any one has answers for these.

> > > > >

> > > > > As i m getting regularly these dreams and i m afraid of dreams.

> > > > plz suggest.

> > > > >

> > > > > regds

> > > > > geeta

> > > > >

> > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your

> Messenger.

> > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Kumar,

 

Like I requested the other Kumar ji, why do you feel so powerless to

not move on to the other messages without reading what was posted by

those that nore you or irritate you?

 

;-)

 

{{Detachment must be learned to avoid the karma trap, as the wise

experience ultimately!}}

 

RR

 

 

vedic astrology, sudhir kumar

<sudhir_kumar_10 wrote:

>

> Hi Folks

> Time to move on to another subject.

>

> whatever be the dreams made of. I am bored

>

> If you guys have time please help with horoscope reading.

>

> So that I can atleast learn...or help a good Soul.

>

>

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

> Can a snake (or bite thereof?) truly and really kill a

human, Ila ji,

> as you professed and stated?

>

> If what you say so boldly IS true then there is a big problem! A BIG

> confusion!!

>

> As has been shared, there is yet another type of dream, the fifth type!

>

> KEKULE'S DREAM!

>

> The dream that revealed the FUTURE!

>

> Perhaps Nostradamuses one falls in that category too!

>

> RR

>

> vedic astrology, Ila devi dasi MVS

> <ila_dd_mvs@> wrote:

> >

> > Such unusual dreams that recur throughout life are often coming from

> a PAST LIFE! Perhaps you were killed by a snake in a past life and

> this fear may recur in dreams in this life....

> >

> > Dreams are of 4 types:

> > 1. Past life experiences

> > 2. Present life experiences (usually all meddled up and mixed on

> sub-conscious level)

> > 3. Spiritual dreams with revelations etc. from higher beings

> > 4. Dreams caused by interaction with ghosts and other unwanted

> beings on subtle level

> >

> > Do not attach too much significance to dreams....if you follow a

> spiritual process like chanting you may start having nice spiritual

> dreams in your sleep, and sleep peacefully....

> >

> > Ila

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > Dear Sree Ven ji,

> >

> > At the risk of being sent to the corner of the class and made to stand

> > in the 'chicken posture', I would like to add two elements that came

> > to me as I was reading your thoughtful and supportive posting.

> >

> > The Story of Genesis and the Garden of Eden where Devil came to Eve in

> > the form of a serpant and showed the Apple of Wisdom!

> >

> > And the Hindu scriptural account of Vasuki, the Divine Serpant who was

> > engaged to carry out the Samudra manthan, a process that symbolically

> > has represented Deep Psychoanalysis of the Creation and which brought

> > forth all the gems of wisdom and power!

> >

> > The Two allegories from the west (middle-east actually!) and east show

> > the strong association of Snakes with wisdom, with the opening of eyes

> > and imparting wisdom! Two ancient cultures and their scriptures could

> > not be wrong! And I am sure there must be similar associations in

> > other cultures and religions too!

> >

> > Rahu and Ketu are associated with snakes and despite their association

> > with Asuras -- generally considered less in station than Devas in

> > terms of beauty of form or of knowledge and wisdom/intellect, surely

> > were different! They did manage to receive the amrita while other

> > asuras were enamoured by the Mohini Murti! Perhaps Rahu and Ketu must

> > not be underestimated for they could manage to see through Lord

> > Vishnu's Charm and that is no mean feat!

> >

> > Now this does not mean that I am implying that rahu and ketu, willy

> > nilly would represent wisdom, or opening of one's eyes and all those

> > good qualities that Snakes (some snakes!) may have been attributed

with!

> >

> > I hope I am not rattling anyone's cage by my postings. I have a true

> > reverance for rattle snakes none of which were seen in a dream or two

> > but in real 'shows' in South Dakota in U.S.A. once.

> >

> > There used to be a saying in rural Bengal, my Late Mother used to

> > relate that sticks in my mind. A dream of snakes as an omen, sometimes

> > indicates that the dreamer or a close relative will have a child soon.

> > I have never followed that up as a validation exercise so do not know

> > for sure.

> >

> > RR

> >

> > vedic astrology, sree ven <jyothishishya@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Good one Rohiniji!

> > >

> > > Ironically/interestingly, Geeta (one who posted the query in the

> > first place) has not raised any objection/dismay/displeasure at your

> > feedback, to the best of my knowledge. It is the self appointed

> > police/advisory board/pro bono lawyers/guardian angels doing the talk!

> > What these people have (deliberately?) overlooked is the significance

> > of your explicitly expressed empathy and implicitly hinted possible

> > conscious/ subconscious/ supraconscious reasons behind the sneaky

> > dreams, I mean snake dreams :-)

> > >

> > > On a conscious level, snake dream could stem from one's personal

> > encounter with an actual snake, as you have mentioned in your

> > response. ANY experience PERCEIVED as life-threatening one, can haunt

> > dreams that might fade with time, since this directly deals with

> > memory. As you said, the fact that man is more cruel when it comes to

> > survival, should take care of the 'logic' of fear (oxymoron?)

> > >

> > > On a subconscious level, as Carl Jung suggested, snake dream is a

> > motiff belonging to the human 'archetype'; meaning the experience is

> > universal, cutting across culture, gender, age, time and space. This

> > explains why someone in Manhattan downtown is more afraid of snakes

> > (statistically insignificant threat) than other significant threats

> > such as road accident etc. BTW, snake could mean a lot depending on

> > spiritual, scientific etc. PREDISPOSITION of the INDIVIDUAL (which is

> > not known about Ms. Geeta); it can even lead to a serendipitous

> > discovery (Kekule's dream of snake swallowing its tail- closed loop of

> > benzene molecular structure)

> > >

> > > On a supraconscious level, Rahu is indicated, perhaps; you have

> > more than hinted at this in your response. You have mentioned about

> > Mahakaal as well. It follows that appesing/worshipping Rahu/Mahakaal

> > is a good idea!

> > >

> > > Sharing stories (&empathizing) is a nice and perhaps most

> > effective way of getting a point across, many a time. Talk about epics

> > on (a)dharma and parables of great religious leaders!

> > >

> > > All the same, like you said, it is an individual that decides

> > which way he/she wants to help the other person...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > Mr. Kumar,

> > >

> > > It seems that you and your friends were the only one concerned about

> > > my dry story and decided to take on the role of the class-room

monitor

> > > in this instance as you have tried to in the past a few times,

trying

> > > to control what I should write and what people should post and

so on.

> > > I do not think that is within your mandate as a contributor on

this or

> > > any other forum! Please keep to what you do best and if my style or

> > > substance rub you the wrong way, or rattle your cage -- please

refrain

> > > from reading what I post (repeated for the Nth time and I will

> > > continue till the message sinks in!).

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear RR,

> > > >

> > > > well the the scientist story is a good one as it did not form part

> > > of any question of a member.

> > > > where as the SNAKE mail was about a question where anyone who

could

> > > answer her question was NEEDED not a dry story to cover her concern

> > > did ur story solve her fears is all u need to ask urself or anyone

> > > posting a reply not in line with the question. In ur case u r

suposed

> > > to be more experiened than many members around so a can draw from

> > > resources if any or direct her to some books, site, person who can

> > > answer it

> > > >

> > > > In my limited knowledge Prasna Marga has some clues but have

kept my

> > > books in a box in the loft for a yr till i finish the construction

> > > work so can't recall off hand.

> > > >

> > > > I can't call that venom, may be there is a suitable word for it

> still.

> > > >

> > > > G B Prashant Kumar

> > > >

> > > > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> > > marriage, family, kids.

> > > > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal

mail and

> > > CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:06:14 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams always

> > > GOOD or BAD ?? 22/12

> > > >

> > > > Dear B. Chowdhury and Sri Kumarji,

> > > >

> > > > I am glad that both of you got a chance to beat up on me and

> were able

> > > > to expel the venom out of your systems :-)

> > > >

> > > > Keeping anger and frustration inside and brooding over it is

> corrosive

> > > > to the soul. Did I ever tell you the story of the scientist

who was

> > > > trying to discover the universal solvent that can dissolve

anything

> > > > and everything. His father, an illiterate farmer asked innocently,

> > > > "Dear son once you have discovered this solvent, where will you

> > > store it?"

> > > >

> > > > OOPS -- SORRY! I forgot that both of you gentlemen are kind of

> > > > intolerant to stories told by others!

> > > >

> > > > Season's greetings ;-)

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, biswajit chowdhury

> > > > <chowdhury_biswajit wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear GBPK,

> > > > > I appriciate your reply to RR.Hope your bold will go no.

> > > > > regards

> > > > > B.Chowdhury

> > > > > Kolkata.

> > > > >

> > > > > Me Shubha Vela <pkgoteti@ .> wrote:

> > > > > Dear RR

> > > > >

> > > > > ur story telling is fine pl address her issues as if u had

> > > > experienced such reverence and sure some stories and remedies will

> > > > also be in ur memory hep the poor women than scare/nore her.

> > > > >

> > > > > But If I were u will suggest some Subramanya [Kartikeya]

kavachams

> > > > or stotra etc. then tell stories.

> > > > >

> > > > > G B Prashant Kumar

> > > > >

> > > > > Pl give personal data with some life events and dates, jobs,

> > > > marriage, family, kids.

> > > > > Services of this astrologer in the group are free, personal

> mail and

> > > > CHAT consultations ARE CHARGEABLE!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > Friday, December 22, 2006 9:10:13 AM

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dangerous Snakes Dreams

always GOOD

> > > > or BAD ?? SHARING

> > > > >

> > > > > JUST SHARING! Don't bite me!!

> > > > >

> > > > > over the last thirty years -- have had many snake dreams

including

> > > > > dreams of killing them -- and actually having experienced one

> > instance

> > > > > where I killed a cobra and helped/witnessed a few other killings

> > > > > earlier in my childhood home!

> > > > >

> > > > > When it comes to survival or perceived survival -- trust a human

> > > > > always! There is nothing more CRUEL and CAPABLE at KILLING than

> > > > > him/her!! Now you know the full story behind our Scriptures!! !

> > > > >

> > > > > I was raised in a home that had a huge yard and even a jungle!

> > It used

> > > > > to be a home where the Brit resident (circa pre 1947 I

assume and

> > > > > hope?) lived and was a huge wooden home about 125 years old

> > (back then

> > > > > in the 50s). Each monsoon, beams from the roofs would crash down

> > as we

> > > > > slept outside to avoid the heat (no airconditioning back then!).

> > > > > Mosquito nets had been invented and in regular use -- in case

> > some of

> > > > > the younger uninformed (;-)) folks are wondering!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Let me not spook you out completely by describing the fat rats

> that

> > > > > lived in the attic and came down the ventilator rope!

> > > > >

> > > > > Years later in another newer home -- oh in the 80s a cobra was

> > spotted

> > > > > in the bathroom of that second home of mine, poised with hood

> > > > > stretched up but was it really ready to attack? I do not know!

> I was

> > > > > not there, physically!!

> > > > >

> > > > > I was never told what they finally did to that snake!

> > > > >

> > > > > The area I grew up in was heavily 'populated' with snakes,

mostly

> > > > > Cobras! While fear was there, there was more of a feeling of

> > > reverence!

> > > > >

> > > > > I can through that experience of years understand and

> empathize with

> > > > > those who face rahu face to face -- in their private space,

like a

> > > > > bathroom!

> > > > >

> > > > > But then, I grew up in an area that was under the blessing and

> > direct

> > > > > protection of Mahakaal! I always and still believe that to

be the

> > > case!

> > > > >

> > > > > No physical or worldly ties remain anymore with that realm but

> > it does

> > > > > not go away from my memory! So, it must be important! Right?

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, geeta charan

> <charangeeta@

> > > > ...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gurudev Sadar Pranam,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date - 23/08/1980

> > > > > > time - 1-4 am

> > > > > > Place - Boath Adilabad (AP)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My dreams are of big snakes and snake does bite me

sometime But

> > > > > sometime he rans behind me. Plz suggest some remedy or what is

> > meaning

> > > > > of these dreams ?? can any one has answers for these.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As i m getting regularly these dreams and i m afraid of

dreams.

> > > > > plz suggest.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regds

> > > > > > geeta

> > > > > >

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> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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