Guest guest Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Om Gurave Namah Dear Partha, I was just curious after reading all your experiences like ajna chakra throbbing etc. Thanks for sending your birthdata to the list and also for resending it to me privately. * * * I will make comments on the chart a little later. First, a point on Kundalini. Though I am not an expert on Kundalini, I do not agree with your caution that Kundalini's is "like a thunderbolt". It may be so in your case, for various reasons. It is not always the case. Your desctiption actually made me concerned. That is why I was curious about the chart. I have never meditated on any chakras. I have never done any yoga directed at Kundalini rise, but I think I too did experience Kundalini rise. I am not so much into Kundalini and I am only into bhakti yoga (the path of devotion) and do my poojas sincerely. I have been reading Sri MahaLakshmi's 108 names 108 times every Friday for almost 10 years now (it will be the 10th anniversary in coming January). I have been doing Satya Narayana vratam on every Full Moon day for more than 3 years. Originally, I used to pray with desires, but I just pray now. I am very happy to just pray. I do some other poojas, but these two are the main ones. Overall, I am into poojas and devotion and not into any Kundalini yoga, laya yoga, hatha yoga, raja yoga etc. Somehow, they don't interest me. In March 1998, I think my Kundalini woke up during sleep. Of course, it might be a hallucination. If you want me dismiss me, it is certainly a tenable viewpoint. But I believe that my Kundali woke up then. Jupiter and Ketu were transiting within a couple of degrees from my Rahu's natal longitude and they were in lagna at the time. What happened was that I had a dream. In the dream, I saw a few idols of Vishnu, Lakshmi, Bhoo Devi etc in my front yard. The idols suddenly became alive (i.e. started moving and talking) and hundreds of gods descended on my front yard to serve them. The whole place was lively with a lot of sounds and was full of a splendrous yellow color. While I was having this dream, I experienced a strange happiness and peace (in my dream) that I had never experienced in my life. I woke up then (it was a little before sunrise). It was an unbelievably great feeling and the splendrous yellow color I saw all around is still fresh in my memory. Several years later, I experienced a rise in Kundalini. This time, it was during a Satya Narayana vratam on a Full Moon night. It was a Friday. I had not eaten anything in 28 hours, but was feeling great. I did my weekly Lakshmi pooja and then did Satya Narayana vratam. As a part of the vratam, before reading Vishnu's 1000 names, we read Lakshmi's 108 names. At the end of reading Lakshmi's names, I felt a great happiness and an inexpressible sense of calm and comfort. That feeling lasted for, perhaps, half a minute and it was interrupted by a sensation on the two sides of my spine (near the location of Manipura chakra). It felt like someone was biting/scratching me there. It was not too forceful or painful, but not subtle at all. It was on both the sides of my spine and was simultaneous. When I turned back, there was nobody. Then the feeling of calm and happiness returned. I first did not understand it. Later, a learned person remarked that it was Kundalini. Again, this could be wrong, but I believe that Kundalini pierced thru Brahma granthi at that time. At that time, Jupiter was transiting a couple of degrees away from my natal Ketu (who is in 12th). He was in lagna at the time of the experience. * * * The main point I want to make is that both the experiences were very positive. I did not feel any "thunderbolt". The only pain (little bit) I felt during granthi bhedana was accompanied by a lot of pleasure. You could argue it wasn't Kundalini, but I believe it was. Both the experiences brought a strange and inexpressible feeling of happiness, calm, pleasure and contentment. They were very positive experiences. I would imagine that a lot of depends on one's own chart and the path one followed. * * * Now let us move on to your (Partha's) chart. Before I forget, one key aspect of the chart is that there is an atma karaka replacement. Sun at 29Sc44 was the AK at birth. Jupiter at 29Ar16 is AmK at birth, for replaces Sun later in life and becomes the new AK. This results in a huge internal transformation. This transformation is happening right now and will end in 2005-2006. The transformed AK, Jupiter, is well-placed in the 5th house with Ketu association in both rasi and vimsamsa. But, he is afflicted by Rahu innavamsa and that makes me concerned. Make sure you follow the purest dharma shown by Jupiter and not fall in the trap of Rahu. In my view, Vimsamsa (D-20) is the chart that shows spiritual experiences, including Kundalini experiences. The seven chakras (Mooladhara, Swadhshthana etc) are shown by the houses 7th, 6th, ..., 1st (respectively). When my Kundalini was awakened in March 1998, nodes were transiting in Sc in D-20, which is the 7th house in my natal D-20 and contains nodes. When Brahma granthi (Manipura chakra) was pierced thru, nodes were transiting in Vi in D-20, which is the 5th house in my natal D-20 and contains 3 key planets. In your D-20, the 2nd house of experiences with ajna chakra is very strong. It contains Mercury and nodes. This does suggest some experiences. However, Mercury is in a vimsamsa ruled by goddess Ghora. This seems to suggest some violence or pain involved in the ajna chakra experiences. Rahu and Jupiter are in the 2nd house in D-20 and you are running Rahu-Mercury antardasa! Talking about dasas, let me demonstrate how Vimsottari dasa is used at the coarse level. More examples (and more detailed ones) can be found in th Vimsottari dasa workshop CD. Malefic planets give the results of their state in the first one-third, the results of their ownership and placement in the middle one-third and the results of association in the last one-third. Thus, Aug 1994-Aug 2002 gives the result of Rahu's strength. Rahu in Leo is not that strong. In fact, he is in an inimical house. Thus, this is a period of introspection, confusion and frustration. Aug 2002-Mar 2009 gives the result of Rahu's 8th house ownership (search of truth) and the 2nd house placement (experiences of ajna chakra), both taken from Surya lagna (Sun, who is also in normal lagna in this case). Thus, we judge maha dasas and the 3 parts of a maha dasa. Then we can go to antardasas. Mercury antardasa is running from Aug 2002 to Feb 2005. In your D-20, Mercury is with malefics and hence he too is a malefic. So, in the first one-third of the AD (Aug 2002-July 2003), Mercury gives the result of his state. He is in an adhimitra's house and thus gives good results and direction. You will feel comfortable with your spirituality. While Rahu is the 8th lord from Sun, Mercury is in the 8th from Moon. Thus, Mercury AD in Rahu MD activates the 8th house fully and gives sadhana. This happens particularly in the middle one-third of Mercury AD (July 2003-Jan 2004). Thus, one can see that the rule of Sun-Moon-lagna for interpreting 3 levels, when coupled with the rule of 3 parts of a period, makes readings very simple. BTW, you are thoroughly under Rahu's influence. Rahu's Vimsottari dasa and Moola dasa are running. Even the 8th house of sadhana from Narayana dasa sign has Rahu. Though Rahu aspected by Jupiter is not unfavorable, I am wary of a Rahu who joins Jupiter in navamsa. Make sure you follow a very pure dharma and make sure you follow only the most saattwik gurus. This dasa may give you many experiences, but I honestly think that the next dasa of Jupiter will be the one that will fulfil your real potential. By that time Jupiter dasa comes, the atma karaka replacement will be completed. Jupiter will be the AK and his dasa will be running. You will achieve a lot spiritually then. God bless you! May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:> Dear Narasimha> > Thank you for your kind interest.> > Here is the data> > 15th december 1976> Time of birth:-8 27 Am(d-60 lagna -thula as rectified by Pt.Rath)> Place:New delhi> > regards> partha> > > > Yesterday night, i woke up in middle of night, i had severe > > throbbing > > > at Ajna chakra, and i could hear a waterfall in my body!!.> > > > > > The experience lasted for few seconds, may be a minor earthquake > > in > > > my body!.> > > > > > Most of the times we mistake sensations in body for kundalini. > > > Kundalini is like a thunderbolt, and one needs to be prepared for > > > that. And kundalini rising is not the end of it, it is the first > > step > > > towards self realisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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