Patrice KP

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Dear Patrice,

 

Thank you for your information on KP.

 

I have understood from your message that one should see the nakshatra lord

of the sub of the ascendant to see the strongest significator of the

ascendant.

 

In my case (8:07am 19th April 1980, Birmingham, UK 1W55 52N30 DST1hr- Taurus

23:07) sublord of ascendant is sun. And sun is in the nakshatra of Ketu. So

according to KP Ketu signifies the ascendant.

 

When you say "signify ascendant" does that mean physically or mentally or

spiritually?

 

I always thought that Venus in Rohini Taurus would signify me. But if Ketu

does that is also interesting as Ketu in Aquarius is my AL. I am very much

interesting in the spiritual path of Bhakti yoga as outlined in the Bhagavd

Gita by Lord Krishna.

 

Could you please explain the other rules for the other ascendants and a

little on how one can interpret using this KP system?

 

Also could you please send me your birth details as I couldnt quite grasp

your example of your own chart.

 

Best wishes

 

Kasim

 

 

>"Patrice Curry" <patricecurry

>vedic astrology

><vedic astrology>

>Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Michael Jackson's Birth Details

>Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:34:42 -0500

>

>Dear Kasim,

>

>Interesting about you being a Rohini Taurean and lagna lord Venus also in

>Rohini and a natural dancer ;-) How nice for you...

>

>Under KP: The nakshatra lord of the Sub of the Ascendant is said to be the

>strongest significator of the ascendant. (This is just the rule for the

>ascendant, other rules apply for the houses.)

>

>As an example using the Michael Jackson time of 11:45, chart shows Venus as

>sub lord of the Ascendant. Venus is in a Mercury nakshatra, so this makes

>Mercury the strongest significator of the ascendant. And you know in this

>case the rest as written earlier regarding that Gandanta Mercury in Magha

>with Sun and in parivartana with Gandanta Ketu.

>

>This is a really wonderful and useful tool in all charts and can be used to

>rectify birthtimes by a few minutes. In my particular chart, my birthtime

>on birth certificate was given as 00:39. I was very fortunate to see Yogi

>Karveji and he gave me the time as 00:38. When you check the two different

>times it is quite clear that the 00:38 is the correct time giving me Ketu

>in Leo in KP 12H (Rasi 1H), verses Saturn in Virgo conjoined Mars in KP 1H

>(Rasi 2H and conjoined Mars and Venus) as strongest significator for my

>Ascendant.

>

>I'm giving this as an example of my own chart to help explain more fully

>here, but you will see it clearly in other charts and in your own. This is

>particularly useful also with twins as there is often a different sub lord

>for each twin, and it shows you immediately the difference in the twins.

>

>Check your own chart out and see how and if it fits. It's quite remarkable

>with all the charts I have where I know the birthtime is correct.

>

>In this case with the considered time for Michael Jackson, again it is

>remarkable how it fits. I have taken the time back checking minutes as it

>goes back in case this chart is actually a minute or two ahead of

>birthtime, which I have NO idea about, but just to check. In this case this

>remains the same for him up until changing at 23:40.

>

>Also my thinking for his birthtime to be such a huge question, with all the

>fame and celebrity and we have access to so many other birthtimes with

>people of this kind of fame, my thoughts were that Ketu must be involved.

>Even with the mails I sent yesterday the confusion between Mercury and Ketu

>again...

>

>This seems correct to me. However there is always room for others opinions

>and with birthtimes not known many present their own view on what it should

>be. I don't know where Das got the 23:45. Normally Das' times in his

>Goravani program are given correctly. I have only taken this time

>originally due to the time given by Das.

>

>As for Micheal being born at Noon, as I have heard also said, it was quoted

>to me that Lois Rodden and Marjorie Orr gave this time. Both their websites

>list this time of Noon on the charts given, but both specify that it is an

>unknown birth time. Noon just being used as a general time with no birth

>time given.

>

>My point here is to share this KP technique and it just worked out this

>well again with this time given in this case with Michael's chart.

>

>All my kindest regards,

>Patrice

>

>______________

>Dear Patrice,

>

>I agree with your observation about Rohini and dancers.

>

>I am a Rohini Taurean too with lagna lord Venus in Rohini. And dance comes

>naturally to me without even trying!

>

>And don't forget Lord Krishna Who is said to have Rohini as His nakshatra

>with moon (and sun?) placed in Rohini.

>

>Interesting stuff about KP.

>

>If you can spare time to teach us all a bit more about this technique I am

>sure many on the list would appreciate it Patrice.

>

>Best wishes

>

 

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