Narashima ---> Is this a bug in JHL 5.0 ???

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

The guy is unnecessarily confused and is confusing others.

 

JHora uses Gregorian calendar and Julian calendar for birthdata

entry, because that is the calendar in which birthtimes are noted

these days. It is just for convenience. If I ask you to enter the

birthdata in Hindu calendar, many people will not even know what to

enter. When somebody is born, people simply note the date and time

as per the Gregorian calendar. So JHora uses this calendar for data

entry.

 

But, internally this time is converted to an epoch and converted to

to Hindu calendar. Calculations are made accurately for that point

in time. From this point onwards, it does not matter which calendar

was used for data entry. All further calculations are based on Hindu

calendar and the calculations given are what an astrologer needs.

 

When it comes to giving the weekday, it is part of the panchanga

(tithi, vaara, nakshatra, yoga and karana) and has a use in

astrology. So the weekday displayed is based on Hindu calendar.

 

The guy wondered if he's really born on a Tuesday or Wednesday.

Well, the answer is simple.

 

He's born on Wednesday as per a meaningless calendar (which is

supported for birthdata entry because of its wide use) which somehow

thinks midnight is the most important point of a day and changes the

day then. But, this weekday and its lord (Mercury) have no

astrological significance in his chart. Astrologically, he is born

on a Tuesday and Mars is the weekday lord for astrological purposes.

The issue is not even Hindu vs western. The issue is what is

significant astrologically.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> Dear Narashima,

>

> This was brought by a guy in another forum and is using JHL 5.0

and

> he seems to think there is bug in JHL 5.0 and has raised a quite a

> valid point, i agree to his point, unless i am missing

something...

>

> So i just wanted to check with the creator of this wonderful

> software application which is helping lot of vedic astrology

> students..

>

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> His Comments

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> Hi guys,

> I have noticed something unusual about JHL5.0 just recently or for

> that matter even the previous version of JHL.

>

> When I feed in my brith details

>

> 6 aug 1980

> 12:03 am (just after midnite)

> Bombay

>

> It gives the weekday as tuesday when infact I was born on a

> wednesday. I dont know why this is happening, has anyone

experienced

> this too?

>

> Check under the weekday in the main page, where all the general

> information like yoga of the day, thiti, lunar month etc are

given.

> There in my case it gives weekday as tuesday. Where as according

to

> the calender it is a wednesday morning just after midnite.

>

> Could someone shed some light on this as to what the secert behind

> this is???

>

> regards

> Ums

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> Hi folks,

> Well thanks for explaning the idea behind it. But what I find

funny

> now and ridicolus is the fact that JHL uses the gregorian clander

> and the Julian Calender. To date the postiions of planets. To

> basically the calculations are based on the dates and times that

run

> according to the gerogian or the julian calnder.

>

> This can be seen in the top right corner of the JHL program. Yet

it

> is funny that the day Im born gets calculated by the hindu

calender.

> So this give me two questions.

>

> 1. What Calender are we excatly using in JHL ?? Is it the hindu

> calnder, the gregorian or the julian. Also if I draw up my chart

in

> astroexperts it gives my day as wednesday. So who is doing correct

> astrology?

>

> 2. Secondly, what day am I really born on. If its a tuesday then

my

> mars gets very strong and if its a wednesday then my mercury plays

a

> crucial role in my life.

>

> What does not make compelte sense to me is that the positions of

the

> planets are calculated withrespect to the greogrian calender.

Where

> as my brith day is calculated according to the hindu system...???

>

> regards

> Ums

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

> I guess this guy has a valid point and is confused totally !!!

>

> PVR your comments are most welcomed.... If it is a bug you can

take

> it as to do and can release bug fix/patch in near future...

>

> thanks

> Abhijeet

[Guest guest]

Namaste Narashima,

 

Thanks thats what my initial thought was you are converting dates

and calendar objects ...But was deceived by his question..

 

BTW we have to think from customer's/users perspective, Most of end

users are basically non-technical and they just blame the software

Anyway we should always try and improve software quality by removing

geniune bugs..

 

One more question have you created this in C++ ??? using MFC ??

 

thanks

Abhijeet

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> The guy is unnecessarily confused and is confusing others.

>

> JHora uses Gregorian calendar and Julian calendar for birthdata

> entry, because that is the calendar in which birthtimes are noted

> these days. It is just for convenience. If I ask you to enter the

> birthdata in Hindu calendar, many people will not even know what

to

> enter. When somebody is born, people simply note the date and time

> as per the Gregorian calendar. So JHora uses this calendar for

data

> entry.

>

> But, internally this time is converted to an epoch and converted

to

> to Hindu calendar. Calculations are made accurately for that point

> in time. From this point onwards, it does not matter which

calendar

> was used for data entry. All further calculations are based on

Hindu

> calendar and the calculations given are what an astrologer needs.

>

> When it comes to giving the weekday, it is part of the panchanga

> (tithi, vaara, nakshatra, yoga and karana) and has a use in

> astrology. So the weekday displayed is based on Hindu calendar.

>

> The guy wondered if he's really born on a Tuesday or Wednesday.

> Well, the answer is simple.

>

> He's born on Wednesday as per a meaningless calendar (which is

> supported for birthdata entry because of its wide use) which

somehow

> thinks midnight is the most important point of a day and changes

the

> day then. But, this weekday and its lord (Mercury) have no

> astrological significance in his chart. Astrologically, he is born

> on a Tuesday and Mars is the weekday lord for astrological

purposes.

> The issue is not even Hindu vs western. The issue is what is

> significant astrologically.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Dear Narashima,

> >

> > This was brought by a guy in another forum and is using JHL 5.0

> and

> > he seems to think there is bug in JHL 5.0 and has raised a quite

a

> > valid point, i agree to his point, unless i am missing

> something...

> >

> > So i just wanted to check with the creator of this wonderful

> > software application which is helping lot of vedic astrology

> > students..

> >

> >

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> > His Comments

> >

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> > Hi guys,

> > I have noticed something unusual about JHL5.0 just recently or

for

> > that matter even the previous version of JHL.

> >

> > When I feed in my brith details

> >

> > 6 aug 1980

> > 12:03 am (just after midnite)

> > Bombay

> >

> > It gives the weekday as tuesday when infact I was born on a

> > wednesday. I dont know why this is happening, has anyone

> experienced

> > this too?

> >

> > Check under the weekday in the main page, where all the general

> > information like yoga of the day, thiti, lunar month etc are

> given.

> > There in my case it gives weekday as tuesday. Where as according

> to

> > the calender it is a wednesday morning just after midnite.

> >

> > Could someone shed some light on this as to what the secert

behind

> > this is???

> >

> > regards

> > Ums

> >

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> > Hi folks,

> > Well thanks for explaning the idea behind it. But what I find

> funny

> > now and ridicolus is the fact that JHL uses the gregorian

clander

> > and the Julian Calender. To date the postiions of planets. To

> > basically the calculations are based on the dates and times that

> run

> > according to the gerogian or the julian calnder.

> >

> > This can be seen in the top right corner of the JHL program. Yet

> it

> > is funny that the day Im born gets calculated by the hindu

> calender.

> > So this give me two questions.

> >

> > 1. What Calender are we excatly using in JHL ?? Is it the hindu

> > calnder, the gregorian or the julian. Also if I draw up my chart

> in

> > astroexperts it gives my day as wednesday. So who is doing

correct

> > astrology?

> >

> > 2. Secondly, what day am I really born on. If its a tuesday then

> my

> > mars gets very strong and if its a wednesday then my mercury

plays

> a

> > crucial role in my life.

> >

> > What does not make compelte sense to me is that the positions of

> the

> > planets are calculated withrespect to the greogrian calender.

> Where

> > as my brith day is calculated according to the hindu system...???

> >

> > regards

> > Ums

> >

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >

> > I guess this guy has a valid point and is confused totally !!!

> >

> > PVR your comments are most welcomed.... If it is a bug you can

> take

> > it as to do and can release bug fix/patch in near future...

> >

> > thanks

> > Abhijeet