AUM/OFF list message

September 24, 2003

I've received couple of messages from Indian people from the list, sent

privatelly with not courteous content at all. This one I am bringing to your

attention, because it illustrates type of messages I was geting off-list-

unsolicited, needless to say, and more hostile, than this one is.

Mr Rao whoever you are, you are such a coward, you and those like you, and you

think you are funny!! Please get noticed by some positive actions, contribution

to SJC instead of pushing irresponsibly westerners out from list, thus hurting

SJC interests. SJC needs them at least as much as they need SJC. And I will

tell you something, those like you are such a terribly egocentric, poorly

brought up bunch, without group-interest sense- You do not have any obligation

to return a little something for a big benefit you are receiving from the list

and take favours for granted- best example is that you are 'humle' and

'respectful' when you need an answer, but not ready to invest 5 minutes to

contribute to one single research that has been done in SJC, for benefit of

ALL- do you know what that is all about? I doubt. You are just balast on SJC

body, parasites, and that may make wrong impression of other your compatriots

who are

honest and unbiased-

Don't you-and those alike, dare to send any off-list male to me!!! You have the

List, find courage and share 'fun' insults, critics on the list.

Unlike yourself, I am honestly interested in Jyotish and SJC, and even though

you are Indian I am sure I know more, and contribute more, because I DO CARE-

and I do try to understand Sanskrit, but your primitive mind is unable to see

further from the nose, poor 'red /small/ rao, and you nemani and undisclosed

entities....You signed correctly your message, for all in your like-minded

circle.

AnnaNote: forwarded message attached.

vedic astrology

tvrao_agd tvrao_agd

Mailing-List: list vedic astrology; contact vedic astrology-owner

Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:35:15 +0530

Re: [vedic astrology] AUM symbol

dear anna,

in which language u want the om?

tvr

-

AR

vedic astrology

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:46 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] AUM symbol

Dear All,

For an art work I an currently working on, I would like to incorporate sigh OM-

I 've seen someshere it was posted,

buy don't know where.

Those who know, please advise as soon as you can

Or where i can find nive;y frawn ones

Thanks,

Anna

Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info:

vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank

mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light

shine on us .......

Attachment: [not stored]

September 24, 2003

Dear Madam,

SJC DOESN'T NEED ANY ONE,Indian or Westerners (may be not even the Founder now,

because I think SJC has gained momentum under Sanjay Rath Ji and the senior

students trained by him).I don't know about the others but I need SJC.

"I've received couple of messages from Indian people from the list."That is a

pretty strong message you are conveying about Indians.I am an Indian (an

accident of birth), for whom India and Indians can never be wrong.(Just like

any ethnocentric person thinks about his/her country of birth)But slow------ly

I am changing and learning to accept the Universal Brotherhood.

The mail you have forwarded is the one which was sent to the list by

Mr.tvr.There is nothing discourteous in the mail. I am sure AUM/OM will be

written differently in different languages(even in English there is more then

one spelling) so his query about language is right.Mr.tvr and Mr.Nemani (by the

way I know them as much as I know you)are two people who I know are serious

students of Jyotish like you(three of you are more serious then me) so it is

bit difficult for me to accept that they would send some stupid e-mail on your

personal e-mail address.

We have the freedom to not to reply to something we don't like. So if you are

unhappy with their messages please ignore them. Life is too short to be wasted

charging at windmills, imaginary or otherwise.

With malice towards none,

Jagmeet

P.S.:If it will help I am a backbencher on this list from the time this list had

about 10 members and I have seen many diffrence of opinions. Many(Indians and

Westerners) have joined this group after me and have forged ahead in Jyotish

and spirituality.May be my turn will come in one of the next births,till that

time I will just hang around and avoid unnecessary spats on the list.

September 24, 2003

Thanks Madam for responding to nonexistent text.

Now that you did, I can recall 'dheendsa' name -sent to me from free mail, the

first time I asked on the list to 'translate'

Sanskrit in brackets, well that dheendsa sent me a PRIVATE off list mail, with

the phyjj text I wouldn't dare to forward to the List, because of it's

insulting language! that may not be your name, of course, this post indicate

that it was not your message.

As of national pride, I have full respect for that- but dear, only

Jagmeet-Indian matters, what you've done yourself, not Just who you were on

birth- Indian can stand for itself with enough value and respect to command,

it's jagmeets who have to prove themself.

As per what you wrote, nothing has changed since you were born, in terms of

knowledge. Didn't know Jy. nor will study now..but will play 'third' man to

Robert, who doesn't need you for defending him from me, because he knows who

are those who play the roles, and is able to know the difference between

disagreement and maliciousness, raos even dont need you, either, for they may

want to learn something, and time is a precious commodity. What's your mission

Ma'm.. You are alone here.

Responses on the list were not nice /jyotish is Sanskrit word, meaning what do

you want here, but at least, without you know well that word with first letter

F.

You wrote again to me privately to ask for Jyotish files, I prepared and offered

to all, I ignored what you did in the past, I thought you've realized your

'mistakes, 'spent good two hours trying to get to your mail box in vain, and

informed you with kindness- not a simple thank you have you bothered to say.

And You've missed smth here- this was sent to me off list- on the list I have no problem to ignore.

SJC as a dheenda-rao-nemani- guguruUA/one sender/-and similar self-sufficient

isolated tribe can exist in your head only- what a good advisor!

You lurkers are so arrogant, why don't you try to learn something, instead of intriquing,

I do go fast, but I won't 'spend' jyotish- enough will be left for you if it's

not the shame to be born on the source of knowledge and not drink it, being an

arrogant lurker on your own terrain, sorry, I am not even trying to understand

that.Like not speaking mother tongue!

Another person wrote to criticize me for responding to posts, and he calculated

that I was doing that in wee hours, off-list, again.what are doing..sic!!

I am aware of the fact that by writing this to you, I give you better status and

respect than deserved so far. But people do change, and I wish you a good one.

Peace,

forget my private e-mail, please madam,

Annajag meet s dheendsa <jsdheendsa (AT) juno (DOT) com> wrote: