Guest guest Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 OM NAMO SHIVAY Dear Shunny ji Thanks for your Diwali wishes and I wish the same for you. I have tried to answer your questions within my limited knowledge below. Regards RMK vedic astrology, shunny nigam <shunny65> wrote: > OM NAMO NARAYAN > > Dear Rajes Kumaria ji. > > WISHING YOU HAPPY DIWALI > > > First of all thanks for your nice explanation. A few doubts are still in my mind they are as follows > > > > You said:-Divine providence can not be altered……….. > > I agree with this statement that means both gems and Mantra or for that matter any remedial measure is not going to help native in real sense? RMK: I really did not mean that gems and Mantras will not help in real sense. That is your interpretation. What I really meant was that Divine Providence is very strong and controls our financial and mental developments all the time. "Cannot be altered" means that one can only delay the effects of afflicted and malefic planets, by chanting thousands(or prehaps millions of mantaras)of mantaras, but ultimately when the effects of the mantaras and gems are gone, then one must face the original designated effects later on, in the antar- dasa/pratyantar-dasa of the concerned planet. So if one was able to control lot of malefic effects(of 6th/8th/12th lord or afflicted planets) by hardwork and mantaras + gems in present time, then in the future time of the same planet, similar efffects will come back (assuming the native will not be ready woth mantaras or gems second time around. its human nature to consider that everything has been controlled perfectly when one achieves small victories in present time)...so the second time around the concerned planet will not only cause its normal malefic effects but also cause some additional malefic effects(which were prevented the first time by the native somehow)..i have seen this happening in my life and others close to me...the malefic planet equalizes or rather gets its share of the effects back(unless one continues on the mantara path for 10/20/30 years to control such devstating effects)...So my view point is that even chanting hundreds of thousands of mantras and/or wearing gems are temporary effective soultions only and divine providence can be delayed to some extent but it cannot be altered forever...afterall this is MRITYULOKA and we cannot control these planetary effects forever...Please note that I am not against gems or mantaras. Rather I support them since these are the only means available to normal human beings to control malefic effects. > 2.Karma chakra should be in active progress………. > > Sir who sits ideal in adversity? Rather people exert more labour, hard work when they are in trouble, without job, etc. Only people with enough money, good food, job etc etc can think of rest. So everybody is doing Karma and efforts to catch some or other opportunity. > > > > 3.Heavily afflicted chart……….. > > Sir this is main point Does this means those people having higly afflicted charts should not wear gems etc. people want Gems etc when they face problems because of hard combination or highly afflicted chart, and normally we say that what is the use of diagnosis unless we can not give medicine. My query is when doctor prescribe any medicine he also assure patients the benific effect of medicine within stipulated time span.same here when we prescribe any gem stone or mantra can we say to the native that this is Gem or Mantra is going to benefit you within so and so time period. If not what is the use of prescribing mantra or costly gems. > RMK: Here you have explained the problem and the solution yourself. So even the doctors can control serious diseases to some/large extent using medcines and then one has to keep talking thos medicines for really long periods of time to keep the disease under control. But we know that all medcines are strong chemicals which do have side effects which develop into other minor/major problems gradually as time proceeds and harm our bodies in the long run. In the end our internal organs keep getting weaker and weaker by such medications which control cancer, heart disease, kidney problems etc., due to all this reliance on medicines. Yet medicnes are very necessary since they are the only means available to control the diseases. By similar analogy, Gems and mantaras are also necessary. while mantaras focus on the concerned planet and pleasing its controlling lord directly, gems merely magnify all types of effects of the concerned planet. So if a planet owns a kendra and a dusthsthana (6th/8th/12th) and is also afflicted, then all types of effects will happen(gems are just trying to fast forward the original effects). So mor harm can be done to the native in such a case then expected benefits since malefic effects will also increase. So in case of afflicted planets mantaras are the safest remedy. Basically you are telling/requesting the Planetary Lord to control bad effects and give more good effects, rather than taking a strong medication(gems) which affects all dimensions(internal and external organs) of the planet. Hope I am clear this time. Yes there are frustrations since people want gems and mantaras to work immediately all the time...but they do not understand what they are asking for? Their desire is to not only control the present bad effects but also to control the entire planetary system in their favour by hcnating just few mantaras and some gems...Its like rising to great dimensions and controlling the planets! can we do so? can we control the devine providence or alter destiny forever immediately! i do not think so..it will lot of time+ lot of hardwork+mantaras+gems to do such a thing...but its human nature to demand and expect immediate results, so we do not want to hear all such lectures and want the results NOW, just like a quick medicine. Thanks and Regards. RMK > > I have also read in one of the KP book that remedial measure works when > > a) In horoscope Jup or 9Lord or both aspect/associated with Lagna or Moon or Dasanath or antradasa. Normally these people takes advice and do the shanti as well. I think it is indiviual destiny that force him to do shanti and get the benefits. > > > > SHUNNY NIGAM > > > > > > The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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