Mr. Narasimha - Kundalini & Simple Vimsottari Example (Birthdata)

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Dear Mr. Narasimha,

 

When you said "thanks, but no thanks" to Mr. Partha Sarathy, how do

you know that that was the will of Narayana? Maybe Narayana WANTED

you to perform Kundalini yoga, as His way of managing Her. Please

don't take offence. I definitely respect your choice, whatever it

is. In my own life, however, I often wonder about right and wrong.

Sometimes the answer is obvious, but other times, like with this

question, it is not so obvious.

 

Of course everything you have is from Him, and if He wanted you to

experience Kundalini Shakti, He will do so. But how can you be so

sure, that like the original Partha Sarathy (Sree Krishna himself)

showing the right path to Arjuna, maybe He is speaking to you

through Mr. Partha Sarathy. I've had words of wisdom "beamed" to me

from the most unlikely sources sometimes, including last night when

I saw only part of the message on a T-shirt ... I saw "Just" on one

line, and "try hard" on another line ... later when I saw the entire

message, the actual text was "Just be like ME, try hard stupid"! But

the part that I saw, though, was just the right message for me,

since I was getting frustrated with something, and needed to " just

try hard"! That's a silly example, I know .... but since I started

to listen, the whole universe seems to talk to me, and to help me!

 

You do perform pooja to Lakshmi Devi and Sreeman Narayana, as you

yourself said, so isn't that the same concept as performing

kundalini yoga? IF we perform it in the spirit of surrender to Him,

just as the pooja will not hurt us, I believe that the yoga will not

hurt us either, since He essentially is the very opposite of hurt.

IF your attitude is to subdue great powers and misuse them, then

yes, of course you will be hurt since dustha shakti can only cause

destruction.

 

Please don't take offence. Again, whatever you want to do or not do

is totally up to you, and I am not trying to talk into one thing or

the other. I am just trying to understand, and learn from my fellow

seekers.

 

Venkat

 

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

> I (and many similar-minded people who are into the path of

surrender) actually take a more conservative stand. We consider

Kundalini to the the Yoga Maya of the Lord. Instead of harnessing

the illusory energy and trying to get some powers, I'd rather leave

Her management to the Lord. She was, after all, created by Him. That

is why I basically said "thanks, but no thanks" when Partha

suggested that I should do Kundalini yoga to make those experiences

last longer.

>

> The Yoga Maya residing in us is safe under the management of

Krishna (even safer than under the management of a good guru!).

Narayana will manage Her, if we completely surrender to Him.

>

> But complete surrender to Narayana means being prepared for

anything (including going mad or such things that are normally

considered "dire") and, at the same time, not expecting or wanting

any specific result (including the Kundalini rise).

>

> Kundalini rise was and is never, and hopefully will never be, my

goal. If it happened, it happened naturally, without any desire or

directed effort.

>

> Of course, others may not agree with this approach. Good luck to

them! But they will do well to atleast remember Sri Chandrashekhar

ji's words of caution.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

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now i cant resist participating in the discussion. i read partha, narsimha &

now u venkata. all of u were just great!! thanx to all of u to talk abt such

nice things, one can actually feelthe positive vibes in the group mails.

well, coming back to discussion part of it, yes, surrender & complete faith in

him is the right answer. whatever path he takes u thru, whatever tools he

gives u, -whether u fall or get hurt- may b sooner or later, but u 'll reach

the destination that's definite.

yes, as u rightly said, that no path is exclusive. one is mukhya, other two r

also present in gauna form. bhakti gives u gyaan. gyaan gives u bhakti.

detachment & equality comes naturally, which r essentials of karmayoga.

i met a lady who was a great devotee, she beloneg to as ikh middle class family.

but the way she talked abt HIM was better than so called pandits. like river of

gnaan was flowing from the mountain of bhakti.

the discussion is endless, because it involves the infinte HIM. in dasam granth,

guru gobind singh ji tries to define & describe the almighty " akal purush" &

ends up falling short of words. finally he describes him with reapeatitions of

tu -tu, tu,tu tu ,tu hi tu...

which means u, u, u & only u everywhere.

sometimes i feel uncomfortable with the modern idea of religion. why it is given

a name & fixed form?

personally, i dont generally do aarti, after japa, i always do "ardas"-the sikh

prayer. i also like qawallis sung in his praise.

his destination has no fixed route, no fixed language, no fixed yoga, no fixed

mantra, no fixed view, no fixed form. there r endless paths...

on the contrary we try to standardise his his shape, form, poojas &

everything.

that's why in gita, bhagwan says whatever flower, fruit or even a leaf u get

with love, he accpets. he accepted sudama's rice, & had vidur's saag too. what

is needed is just love.

he likes humility, he likes surender, & then he becomes urs,.....

think, does the path matter much?

reagrds

prashant

 

venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry > wrote:

Dear Mr. Narasimha,When you said "thanks, but no thanks" to Mr. Partha Sarathy,

how do you know that that was the will of Narayana? Maybe Narayana WANTED you

to perform Kundalini yoga, as His way of managing Her. Please don't take

offence. I definitely respect your choice, whatever it is. In my own life,

however, I often wonder about right and wrong. Sometimes the answer is obvious,

but other times, like with this question, it is not so obvious. Of course

everything you have is from Him, and if He wanted you to experience Kundalini

Shakti, He will do so. But how can you be so sure, that like the original

Partha Sarathy (Sree Krishna himself) showing the right path to Arjuna, maybe

He is speaking to you through Mr. Partha Sarathy. I've had words of wisdom

"beamed" to me from the most unlikely sources sometimes, including

last night when I saw only part of the message on a T-shirt ... I saw "Just" on

one line, and "try hard" on another line ... later when I saw the entire

message, the actual text was "Just be like ME, try hard stupid"! But the part

that I saw, though, was just the right message for me, since I was getting

frustrated with something, and needed to " just try hard"! That's a silly

example, I know .... but since I started to listen, the whole universe seems to

talk to me, and to help me!You do perform pooja to Lakshmi Devi and Sreeman

Narayana, as you yourself said, so isn't that the same concept as performing

kundalini yoga? IF we perform it in the spirit of surrender to Him, just as the

pooja will not hurt us, I believe that the yoga will not hurt us either, since

He essentially is the very opposite of hurt. IF your attitude is to subdue

great powers and misuse them, then yes, of course you will be hurt since dustha

shakti can

only cause destruction.Please don't take offence. Again, whatever you want to do

or not do is totally up to you, and I am not trying to talk into one thing or

the other. I am just trying to understand, and learn from my fellow seekers.

Venkatvedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > I (and

many similar-minded people who are into the path of surrender) actually take a

more conservative stand. We consider Kundalini to the the Yoga Maya of the

Lord. Instead of harnessing the illusory energy and trying to get some powers,

I'd rather leave Her management to the Lord. She was, after all, created by

Him. That is why I basically said "thanks, but no thanks" when Partha suggested

that I should do Kundalini yoga to make those experiences last longer.> > The

Yoga Maya residing in us is safe under the management of Krishna (even safer

than under the management of a

good guru!). Narayana will manage Her, if we completely surrender to Him.> >

But complete surrender to Narayana means being prepared for anything (including

going mad or such things that are normally considered "dire") and, at the same

time, not expecting or wanting any specific result (including the Kundalini

rise).> > Kundalini rise was and is never, and hopefully will never be, my

goal. If it happened, it happened naturally, without any desire or directed

effort.> > Of course, others may not agree with this approach. Good luck to

them! But they will do well to atleast remember Sri Chandrashekhar ji's words

of caution.> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> NarasimhaArchives:

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