Sheersha Udaya Rasis

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Dear Sunit, There is no difference between Rahu and other planets.

 

In my humble opinion, this rule about seershodaya rasis does not work

consistently enough to be used in predictions. The three parts rule given by

Sanjay ji in his book "Vimsottari & Udu Dasa" works far more consistently.

 

In my experience, however, I found the two parts rule based on rising to work

quite consistently in DPC (Dasa Pravesha Chakra), the chart cast at the

commencement of a dasa. The catch, however, is that you need an accurate

birthtime to use DPC. This is a drawback in the sense that you often don't have

the correct birthtime. But this is also a blessing in the sense that this gives

an opportunity to rectify the time accurately.

 

Let us take my chart as an example. Birthdata: 4th April 1970, 5:47:13 pm (IST),

Machilipatnam, India (81e08, 16n10).

 

Look at Saturn dasa. I used solar years and used a backward correction of 1 day

4 hr 17 min, to compensate for miscellaneous micro-errors in Moon's longitude.

The Saturn dasa commenced at 8:04:29 am (IST) on 29th Dec 1975. Make a chart

for this time (at birthplace). Capricorn rises in DPC. The 9th lord Mercury is

in 12th, showing foreign residence during the dasa. He is in Sg. Being in a

prishthodaya (back-rising) sign, he shows going abroad in the 2nd half of

Saturn dasa (true - in 1991). Saturn is lagna lord in 7th with digbala (in DPC)

and shows getting married in the dasa. Again, he is in a back-rising sign (Cn)

and I got married in the 2nd half of Saturn dasa. The 5th lord is in 11th in

Sc, in a trine from Jupiter and Saturn. He shows scholarship in Sanskrit,

traditional subjects and occult subjects. Being in a seershodaya (head-rising)

sign, he gives those results in the 1st half of Saturn dasa.

 

Let us now go to Mercury dasa. It started at 4:55:53 am (IST) on 29th December

1994. Scorpio rises in DPC. The 5th lord Jupiter is in lagna and shows birth of

children and happiness from them during the dasa. As Jupiter is in Scorpio, a

head-rising sign, the results come in the first half of Mercury dasa (I had two

children in 1996 and 1998). The 9th lord Moon is in 12th with 12th lord and

Rahu. It shows settling down and flourishing abroad. As they are in Libra, a

front-rising sign, it happens in the first half. Though I had gone back to

India in 1993 with the intention of settling fdown there, I left India again

towards the fag end of Saturn dasa and came back to USA in 1995. I got my

permanent residency later. All that happened in the first half of Mercury dasa.

 

This principle of applying the two parts rule based on the rising of a sign can

be applied to the commencement charts of antardasas etc too.

 

For example, take the commencement chart of my Saturn-Rahu antardasa. Pisces

rises in the chart. Saturn is the 12th lord and he is at 14 deg in Sg. Paradesa

sahamam (the significant point of the zodiac corresponding to foreign countries)

is in the 12th degree of Sg and jalapatana sahamam (jalapatana=crossing the

ocean) is in the 10th degree of Virgo. Saturn is in paradesa sahamam and

closely aspects jalapatana sahamam by 10th aspect. Moreover, he's the 12th

lord. He aspects lagna lord Jupiter. He strongly shows going abroad. He is in a

back-rising sign (Sg). So, the result is given in the 2nd half of the dasa

(true).

 

Similarly, in the Saturn-Jupiter antardasa's commencement chart, Aries rises and

Saturn is in own sign in 10th. My career started in the 2nd half of that dasa.

Note that Saturn is in a back-rising sign (Cp).

 

In fact, I find that these principles work even for pratyantardasa. If an

important event happens in a dasa or antardasda or pratyantardasa, not only do

the involved planets have appropriate roles in natal chart, but the

commencement chart also has strong indications. For example, I was running

Saturn-Jupiter-Venus PD when my career started. Of course, Venus is the 9th

lord in 10th in my natal D-10, with a parivartana with 10th lord Mercury (who

is in 9th). So Venus PD gave the result. But we can also look at DPC or period

commencement chart. In the commencement chart of this PD, Scorpio rises and Sun

is strong in own sign in 10th (just like Saturn in AD commencement chart!). Sun

is in a head-rising sign. So I joined job in the first half of the PD!

 

* * *

 

Bottomline: I found the rule of two parts using the rising of signs to work

consistently in the commencement charts of dasas, antardasas etc. If you apply

to natal chart, I haven't seen it work consistently. Moreover, look at it

logically. Suppose Saturn is in a back-rising sign in natal chart. You may say

that it means that Saturn's results will be given in the 2nd half of Saturn

dasa. Then, whose results is Saturn giving in the first half of his dasa? Or

does he give "no results" then? It is a bit silly. The paradigm I have

presented is more logical. May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha

 

PS: I mentioned all this and more at SJC "Vimsottari Dasa" workshop this autumn.

> Dear Gurus and Learned friends,> Can anyone shed some light on sheersha udaya

Rasis, I know that the > planets in sheersha udaya rasis give result in the

first half of the > dasa/bhukti. Also does Rahu give different results in the

first 9 > years if in such a rasi, such as virgo.> Love and Happiness,> Sunit

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awesome !! narasimha ji

Sunit

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Dear Narasimha

 

You have mentioned, "Look at Saturn dasa. I used solar years and used

a backward correction of 1 day 4 hr 17 min, to compensate for

miscellaneous micro-errors in Moon's longitude"...

 

....Can you please explain how to adjust the dasa commencement time

manually to compensate for Moon's factor( I am using excel

spreadsheets for Vimshottari dasa commencement/DPC times), whenever

convenient to you.

 

Thanks and Regards

RMK

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> Dear Sunit,

>

> There is no difference between Rahu and other planets.

>

> In my humble opinion, this rule about seershodaya rasis does not

work consistently enough to be used in predictions. The three parts

rule given by Sanjay ji in his book "Vimsottari & Udu Dasa" works far

more consistently.

>

> In my experience, however, I found the two parts rule based on

rising to work quite consistently in DPC (Dasa Pravesha Chakra), the

chart cast at the commencement of a dasa. The catch, however, is that

you need an accurate birthtime to use DPC. This is a drawback in the

sense that you often don't have the correct birthtime. But this is

also a blessing in the sense that this gives an opportunity to

rectify the time accurately.

>

> Let us take my chart as an example. Birthdata: 4th April 1970,

5:47:13 pm (IST), Machilipatnam, India (81e08, 16n10).

>

> Look at Saturn dasa. I used solar years and used a backward

correction of 1 day 4 hr 17 min, to compensate for miscellaneous

micro-errors in Moon's longitude. The Saturn dasa commenced at

8:04:29 am (IST) on 29th Dec 1975. Make a chart for this time (at

birthplace). Capricorn rises in DPC. The 9th lord Mercury is in 12th,

showing foreign residence during the dasa. He is in Sg. Being in a

prishthodaya (back-rising) sign, he shows going abroad in the 2nd

half of Saturn dasa (true - in 1991). Saturn is lagna lord in 7th

with digbala (in DPC) and shows getting married in the dasa. Again,

he is in a back-rising sign (Cn) and I got married in the 2nd half of

Saturn dasa. The 5th lord is in 11th in Sc, in a trine from Jupiter

and Saturn. He shows scholarship in Sanskrit, traditional subjects

and occult subjects. Being in a seershodaya (head-rising) sign, he

gives those results in the 1st half of Saturn dasa.

>

> Let us now go to Mercury dasa. It started at 4:55:53 am (IST) on

29th December 1994. Scorpio rises in DPC. The 5th lord Jupiter is in

lagna and shows birth of children and happiness from them during the

dasa. As Jupiter is in Scorpio, a head-rising sign, the results come

in the first half of Mercury dasa (I had two children in 1996 and

1998). The 9th lord Moon is in 12th with 12th lord and Rahu. It shows

settling down and flourishing abroad. As they are in Libra, a front-

rising sign, it happens in the first half. Though I had gone back to

India in 1993 with the intention of settling fdown there, I left

India again towards the fag end of Saturn dasa and came back to USA

in 1995. I got my permanent residency later. All that happened in the

first half of Mercury dasa.

>

> This principle of applying the two parts rule based on the rising

of a sign can be applied to the commencement charts of antardasas etc

too.

>

> For example, take the commencement chart of my Saturn-Rahu

antardasa. Pisces rises in the chart. Saturn is the 12th lord and he

is at 14 deg in Sg. Paradesa sahamam (the significant point of the

zodiac corresponding to foreign countries) is in the 12th degree of

Sg and jalapatana sahamam (jalapatana=crossing the ocean) is in the

10th degree of Virgo. Saturn is in paradesa sahamam and closely

aspects jalapatana sahamam by 10th aspect. Moreover, he's the 12th

lord. He aspects lagna lord Jupiter. He strongly shows going abroad.

He is in a back-rising sign (Sg). So, the result is given in the 2nd

half of the dasa (true).

>

> Similarly, in the Saturn-Jupiter antardasa's commencement chart,

Aries rises and Saturn is in own sign in 10th. My career started in

the 2nd half of that dasa. Note that Saturn is in a back-rising sign

(Cp).

>

> In fact, I find that these principles work even for pratyantardasa.

If an important event happens in a dasa or antardasda or

pratyantardasa, not only do the involved planets have appropriate

roles in natal chart, but the commencement chart also has strong

indications. For example, I was running Saturn-Jupiter-Venus PD when

my career started. Of course, Venus is the 9th lord in 10th in my

natal D-10, with a parivartana with 10th lord Mercury (who is in

9th). So Venus PD gave the result. But we can also look at DPC or

period commencement chart. In the commencement chart of this PD,

Scorpio rises and Sun is strong in own sign in 10th (just like Saturn

in AD commencement chart!). Sun is in a head-rising sign. So I joined

job in the first half of the PD!

>

> * * *

>

> Bottomline: I found the rule of two parts using the rising of signs

to work consistently in the commencement charts of dasas, antardasas

etc. If you apply to natal chart, I haven't seen it work

consistently. Moreover, look at it logically. Suppose Saturn is in a

back-rising sign in natal chart. You may say that it means that

Saturn's results will be given in the 2nd half of Saturn dasa. Then,

whose results is Saturn giving in the first half of his dasa? Or does

he give "no results" then? It is a bit silly. The paradigm I have

presented is more logical.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> PS: I mentioned all this and more at SJC "Vimsottari Dasa" workshop

this autumn.

>

> > Dear Gurus and Learned friends,

> > Can anyone shed some light on sheersha udaya Rasis, I know that

the

> > planets in sheersha udaya rasis give result in the first half of

the

> > dasa/bhukti. Also does Rahu give different results in the first 9

> > years if in such a rasi, such as virgo.

> > Love and Happiness,

> > Sunit