Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Dear Kasim and list I have been getting some mails personally also, and i feel it is developing into an interesting and stimulating discussion. Well all of us agree, that lagnadhipati-asc lord is quite an important planet in determining the success of a person. Venus is a very strong option, considering the discussions so far. But we need to answer few questions, a) Michael is known as a "shrill singer" rather than a baritone rock and roll type. b) He is kind of "jack of all trades", as he can sing well, dance well, and probably act well too. c) Magha is one of the most powerful stars in the zodiac. It is considered to be kingly in its status. Lagnadhipati in a royal sign, in a powerful star as compared to Asresha is pertinent here. I have done some research on western astro sites, and also Bava sites, where there is an emphasis on Magha, examples of Madonna etc have been discussed in detail. d) Before considering the assets, and other things, The ascendant, its charecteristics and its nature needs to be studied. e) Taurus sign produces quite sturdy, hefty and steadfast guys. Okay there might be dancers in this sign, but it is peace loving and relatively stable sign to be born in. Remember it is a bull, and the temperament can be found through this analysis. f) 2nd house does show face, no doubts about it, but the reference point is always the lagna, the ascendant. Fickle childhish, changeable, mutable mercury , snake dances, break dances, changing temperaments , moods, ill-health, all these regarding Gemini can be found from classics. g) Jackson has major relationship problems, the badhak for taurus is 9th lord of dharma and father, whereas for Gemini it is Jupiter the 7th lord of relationships!!! h) Jupiter is with rahu, and guess where they are sitting in chitra!! i) Kasim has talked about disciplinarian father, i have seen hundreds of geminis complain about their father. Why?, the reason is 9th lord is saturn+rahu. Double whammy!! j)Talents: mercury+sun in leo in third house is quite better explanation for "heavy dancing", rather than sedate venus in cancer, which could show classical dance h) Lagnadhipati in 3rd house is common for both taurus and gemini considerations, but mercury is retrograde(indicating weak health), and in gandantha. i) Most of the big planets for this chap are in first few degrees in their respective signs, it seems logical to put ascendant degree also in the first few degrees, to fully energise the same, and get the desired results of international fame. we can discuss divisionals later, when the rasi has been resolved regards partha vedic astrology, "Kasim Khan" <kasim_ch@h...> wrote: > Dear Partha > > Yes but if you take Taurus example > > the yoga of sun 4th lord and mercury 5th lord in 4th house gives him great > assets. > > also look at 10th house with full moon giving him recognition as an > entertainer. > > 10th Lord in 7th travels worldwide for his profession > > Moon = mind in idealistic Aquarius in 10th gives him recognition as a > generous humanitarian (We are the world, Heal the World, Earth song etc) > > AL is in Virgo giving him mercurialism as you suggested. > > Saturn aspects lagna giving him thin appearance. > > 6th lord Venus in 3rd house. Enemies (legal) will find it difficult to > deafeat him. > > Venus in 3rd house in sign of cancer giving him venusian communications in > his singing which has been awarded and recognised (A5) > > His strict dad => 9th lord saturn aspecting his lagna => beat him etc > > Saturn mahadasa gave him fame (yogakaraka) in Jackson five but in a cruel > (saturn the ntaural malefic)way behind the scenes => father beatings. > > For facial appearance, skin disease etc i think divisionals may have to be > examined further. Navamsa? > > Best wishes > > Kasim > > > >"V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5> > >vedic astrology > >vedic astrology > >[vedic astrology] Re: Michael Jackson's Birth Details > >Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:40:02 -0000 > > > >Dear Kasim > > > >Man with two faces, man who is attacked for molestation, the singing > >sensation, dancing maverick,sexuality being a regular theme of life. > > > >Do we need to look at charts to find out the lagna? > > > >The chap is a gemini. > >I dont have his chart, but i am sure there must be malefics in third > >house. He is a "break dancer", weak constitution. Had a changeover > >from dark skin to fair skin due to skin disease, doesnot it ring a > >bell, cant we see a mercury here?? > >his songs black or white, i am bad, and what not, can it come from a > >Taurean? > > > >regards > >partha > > > > > >vedic astrology, "Kasim Khan" <kasim_ch@h...> > >wrote: > > > 11:45pm > > > > > > I reckon he is a taurean > > > > > > Saturn mahadasa gave rise to his career in 1970 with the Jackson 5. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Kasim > > > > > > > > > >"Rao Nemani" <raon1008> > > > >vedic astrology > > > >vedic astrology > > > >[vedic astrology] Re: Michael Jackson's Birth Details > > > >Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:39:46 -0000 > > > > > > > >Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > > >Dear sarasalai_siva > > > > > > > >Thanks for the details, can some one please confirm the > > > >the time of birth for me please:- > > > > > > > > > August 29th, 1958 - 7:54 PM ? or 11:45 PM > > > > > POB : Gary, Indiana . > > > > > > > >Regards > > > >Raghunadha Rao > > > > > > > >vedic astrology, "sarasalai_siva" > > > ><sivatheva@a...> wrote: > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" > > > ><raon1008> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Guru's and Learned Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > May I request you please let me the Michael Jackson's birth > > > > > > details, as I wanted to study his chart for my learning > >purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Raghunadha Rao > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha ! > > > > > > > > > > August 29th, 1958 - 7:54 PM ? or 11:45 PM > > > > > > > > > > POB : Gary, Indiana . > > > > > > > > > > sarasalai_siva > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile > > > > _______________ > Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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