Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Dear Narasimha Well said. This applies to all the classics and puranas and chitra kathas. When i was young and when i read Ramayana, i thought it was the story of a Hero(Ram) who kills the Villian(Ravana) To get his spouse back. Today i understand that Ramayana is an understanding of a soul's journey. Rama is the soul, Ravana is the Shadow purusha(d-30 chart), Sita is the femal principle(moon), that is Gripped by Ravana(Tamas, ignorance, and the shadripus), The SOul fights back with the support of Agni(Hanuman), and frees the Mind(moon) and vanquishes the Rahu. The darkness is removed, and the soul gets self realisation. May Krishna bless all of us. regards partha vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste Arun, > > Thank you for the clarification. Instead of seeing the descriptions > as "husk" as you did, I would see them as "raw grains". Understanding > of the underlying principles, which comes from study, is akin to > the dishes made by *cooking* the grains. > > That is why I said the challenge is to know how to separate one grain > from another (rather than grain from the chaff or husk, as the > original analogy mentioned) and to know how to cook various grains. > > I am glad you basically agree that there is no "chaff" or "husk" in > the teachings of Parasara and Jaimini, in the sense of unimportant > and thrown away stuff. > > If one says there is some stuff that needs to be processed and > understood deeper, I have no problems. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > Narasimha, > > > > I cannot show you something like that because I don't believe > > any "unimportant husk" exists in either Pasrashara's or Jaimini's > > work. Also, by the word remove, i didn't mean "throwing away", but > > the act of going within to understand the deeper meanings of the > > words. > > > > Let me illustrate it further, just so that it is clear. For example > > there can be many words that describe the planet or the energy Sun. > > But, all these words themselves are not the real Sun, but pointers > to > > the principle. Many descriptions are provided by the Maharishis to > > somehow get the student to understand the Principle of Sun. In the > > ultimate analysis, for a person who has completely understood the > > Principle of Sun, the descriptions are usless. The descriptions > > become husk for such a person. > > > > I hope this calrifies my earlier statement. > > > > Regards, > > Arun > > > > vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote: > > > Namaste Arun, > > > > > > Please show me one single example from Parasara, of > an "underlying > > > principle" and the unimportant "husk" surrounding it, which needs > > > to "removed". > > > > > > Please note that I am not interested in examples from other > authors > > > and interested only in examples from Parasara and Jaimini. > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > > > > > I personally feel that the "chaff from the grain" analogy is > > quite > > > > apt. > > > > > > > > Rishis have always tried to capture Knowledge in mantras and > > > sutras. > > > > Realising that the vehicle requires regenerative capacity, > Truth > > is > > > > always encapsuled in words and phrases. This is similar to the > > > > beejakshara being encapsuled in a mantra. The real seeker will > be > > > > able to unravel the Truth through proper study. Thus, all > > classical > > > > texts have grains of wisdom clothed in words. The real student > is > > > one > > > > who knows how to remove the husk and understand the underlying > > > > principle. > > > > > > > > However, I also share the view that the classics don't contain > > > chaff > > > > that does not wrap around a sound principle. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Arun > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> > wrote: > > > > > Pranaams Chandrashekhar ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > I do use ashtakavarga frequently. > > > > > > > > > > Some readers may misunderstand your "chaff and grain" > analogy. > > > Just > > > > > for their sake, I will re-iterate an important point. > > > > > > > > > > There is no "chaff" in the teachings of Parasara and Jaimini. > > They > > > > > are full of grains and only grains, no chaff whatsoever. > > > > > > > > > > Hence the challenge is not separating chaff from grain, but > > > > > separating one grain from another and knowing which grain is > > > needed > > > > > for making which food. If you are, for example, making bread > or > > > > > poori, you need wheat. If you are making Boondi laddu, you > need > > > > > channa dal (chick peas). If you are making Pongal, you need > > moong > > > > > dal and rice. If you are maing Idlis, you need urad dal and > > rice. > > > > > Similarly, each food needs a different grain. > > > > > > > > > > So the challenge is to know how to separate one grain from > > another > > > > > and to know which grain is used how. > > > > > > > > > > The same holds in JyotisSaastra or Jyotisha. Knowing the > > > difference > > > > > between various parameters taught by maharshis and knowing > which > > > > > is used how is the challenge. > > > > > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > > > > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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