Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 Hi List, Just want to discuss, how much free will a human being has and can change his destiny through once life time rather than just blaming everything on destiny/kismet ????? i think we humans have lot of free will because GOD has given has that capibility... Or even free will is controlled by your destiny ??????????? I dont know the answer myself, this topic is open for discussion !!! Good luck to Indian Cricket Team !!! thanks Abhijeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Om Namo Naraayanaaya Dear Ramnarayanji Glad to see your post after a long time.Your post is worth reading and understanding. regards Ananthakrishnan Parthasarathy short name: Ananth"P.S. RAMANARAYANAN" <p_s_ramanarayanan (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Viswanadhamji, It has been quite a long time now since i last responded. i find your participation in this group has increased in great deal and i am happy about it. Now coming to the topic under discussion. You have mentioned about the upachaya houses- 3rd,6th,10th and 11th. Let us look at Kaalapurusha. Buda and Sani are the lords of these houses(Rahu is also the co-owner of Kumbha). So far as the gender/linga is concerned for these two planets there exists a confusion - male/female. When you talk about the absolute "I" there is no such confusion. What i mean to say is that there is inherent dualism in these two planets which paves way for options. Should i lean towards materialism in toto/should i lean towards spirituality in toto/should i be a disproportionate mixture of these two/should i be a proportionate mixture of these two? The 9th and 12th signs of the kaalapurusha are also dual signs. What does these dual signs indicate? These two signs teach the natural state(sahaja) of dyanamic silence/sivasakthi swaroopa. The horses are apparently sadhus, but when aroused exhibit exemplary power(Hayagreeva and horsepower concepts). Let us take the weaknesses addressed by these planets. Jealousy is addressed by Buda, Intoxication is addressed by Sani and greed is addressed by Rahu. Jyotish vidya helps us to understand these temptations in better manner as it is self luminous(deva and veda are the two sides of the same coin isn't it!). 1,4,7,10 are the kendras called as the sthoola. 2,5,8,11 are the panapharas called as sookshma. 3,6,9,12 are the apoklimas called as the karana. When dharma is invoked the lord manifests. This is beautifully explained by jyotish vidya. When the 9th is invoked, the invocation percolates through 5th and manifests in 1st. When dharma is invoked the Radha in 5th expresses herself(bhakthi) and the Lords manifests - 1st(deivagna). On account of the paraspara karaka priniciples when 9th is invoked the waves create ripples in 3rd(kama),6th(materailistic tendencies) and in 12th(laya). The ripples in turn create ripples in their corresponding konas(3rd creates ripples in 7th and 11th,6th create ripples in 2nd and 10th, 12th create ripples in 4th and 8th). In short, no sooner the lord is invoked then we find the entire personality/individuality undergoes an evoultionary change. We are currently in Dhanur maasa the 9th sign of the kaalapurusha. We also know that 1 year of manushyas = 1 day of devas. This Dhanur maasa is the bhrama muhurtha period of the devas. It is the time when it is said that the gates of Vaikunta open. There is a subtle hint available here. Dhanur kshetra is the gate of Vaikunta which in other words mean that 9th is the gate way to the kingdom of the Lord. Standing in the gates of the Kingdom of the Lord shall wel join together and say "AUM NAMO NARAYANAAYA". Best wishes. Astrologically yours, psramanrayanan Marriage? Join BharatMatrimony.com for free. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Om Namo Naraayanaaya Dear Ramnarayanji Glad to see your post after a long time.Your post is worth reading and understanding. regards Ananthakrishnan Parthasarathy short name: Ananth"P.S. RAMANARAYANAN" <p_s_ramanarayanan (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Viswanadhamji, It has been quite a long time now since i last responded. i find your participation in this group has increased in great deal and i am happy about it. Now coming to the topic under discussion. You have mentioned about the upachaya houses- 3rd,6th,10th and 11th. Let us look at Kaalapurusha. Buda and Sani are the lords of these houses(Rahu is also the co-owner of Kumbha). So far as the gender/linga is concerned for these two planets there exists a confusion - male/female. When you talk about the absolute "I" there is no such confusion. What i mean to say is that there is inherent dualism in these two planets which paves way for options. Should i lean towards materialism in toto/should i lean towards spirituality in toto/should i be a disproportionate mixture of these two/should i be a proportionate mixture of these two? The 9th and 12th signs of the kaalapurusha are also dual signs. What does these dual signs indicate? These two signs teach the natural state(sahaja) of dyanamic silence/sivasakthi swaroopa. The horses are apparently sadhus, but when aroused exhibit exemplary power(Hayagreeva and horsepower concepts). Let us take the weaknesses addressed by these planets. Jealousy is addressed by Buda, Intoxication is addressed by Sani and greed is addressed by Rahu. Jyotish vidya helps us to understand these temptations in better manner as it is self luminous(deva and veda are the two sides of the same coin isn't it!). 1,4,7,10 are the kendras called as the sthoola. 2,5,8,11 are the panapharas called as sookshma. 3,6,9,12 are the apoklimas called as the karana. When dharma is invoked the lord manifests. This is beautifully explained by jyotish vidya. When the 9th is invoked, the invocation percolates through 5th and manifests in 1st. When dharma is invoked the Radha in 5th expresses herself(bhakthi) and the Lords manifests - 1st(deivagna). On account of the paraspara karaka priniciples when 9th is invoked the waves create ripples in 3rd(kama),6th(materailistic tendencies) and in 12th(laya). The ripples in turn create ripples in their corresponding konas(3rd creates ripples in 7th and 11th,6th create ripples in 2nd and 10th, 12th create ripples in 4th and 8th). In short, no sooner the lord is invoked then we find the entire personality/individuality undergoes an evoultionary change. We are currently in Dhanur maasa the 9th sign of the kaalapurusha. We also know that 1 year of manushyas = 1 day of devas. This Dhanur maasa is the bhrama muhurtha period of the devas. It is the time when it is said that the gates of Vaikunta open. There is a subtle hint available here. Dhanur kshetra is the gate of Vaikunta which in other words mean that 9th is the gate way to the kingdom of the Lord. Standing in the gates of the Kingdom of the Lord shall wel join together and say "AUM NAMO NARAYANAAYA". Best wishes. Astrologically yours, psramanrayanan Marriage? Join BharatMatrimony.com for free. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Ananthakrishnanji, Thankyou for your response and encouragement. i could not write for a long time on account of various commitments. i was going through the mails recently written by Narasimha & Partha regarding Kundalini/chakras. Mails were interesting. i thought i can write a few lines in this regard. Panchabhoota tatwa order as given by the sage in BPHS is Fire/earth/Aakasha/water and Vayu. Retaining this order we can trace this path in the kaalapurusha jataka as Makara/Kanya/Kataka/Meena and Thula based on the respective planetary exaltation principles/features. Now replacing the signs with the chakras we find Mooladhara linked to Mars, Swadhistana linked to Buda, Manipoora linked to Guru, Anahata linked to Venus and Visuddhi linked to Sani. Extending this further we get Moon linked to Ajna and Sun linked to Sahasraara chakras. Chakras are not traceable in the sthoola sarira but can be traced in Prana sharira. Beneath the vigrahas in the sanctum sanctorums we find placement of a suitable chakra and prana pratishta is done thereafter. This gives a subtle hint, that the chakras can be traced to prana. If we are able to place the mind in the stream of prana and allow it to sail as per directions/currents of prana, chakra anubhoothi/experience takes place. Prana moves in a rotatory fashion(cosmic dance of Nataraja) and at the junction points of chakras changes directions on account of the intervention. It is explained that the mind experiences a whirlpool like force at the point of a chakra and it pops up as linga(called as jyothir lingas/chakra lingas). In the holy place of Chidambara(holy place of aakasha linga) a special dance called as ajapa takes place during Aridra star day. In the same temple one can see Anjaneya in front of Govindaraja swami (not Rama).That is a different story. You may be aware that Anjaneya is prana personified. It was he who revealed the great secret that the lord is within(within the Prana). There is no point in searching for the chakras in the body. Ajapa means that which is 'not japa'. Ajapa is placement of mind in the stream of prana. Ajapa thus is a combination of Sani and Moon which is a very important combination pronounced as a success formula in the world of spirituality. The sacred thread worn during the brahmopadesha(done primarily with an intention of opening up of the third eye) in fact gives a subtle hint relating to the unison of the three most important nadis viz., ida(moon), pingala(sun) and sushmna(agni) in the ajna chakra. We know about sun and moon. Where is this Agni? How to go about kindling this spark within? If we consult Anjaneya he gives "Rama" as his answer. "Ra" is agni beeja ruled by Moon while "Ma" is Maatru beeja ruled by Sani. If these two fire stones are rubbed against each other then the Agni springs forth. Much revelations can be had from "Vinayagar Agaval" written by the one and only "AVVAI" THE GRANDMA. i want to write this up just to bring out the importance of MOON - SANI Yoga keeping the Puri conference on 'Yoga' in mind. i take this opportunity to wish you, Sanjay, Narasimha and all the list members a peaceful and prosperous 2004. i also take this opportunity to wish Sanjay and his team a very successful conference at Puri. Best wishes. Astrologically yours, psramanrayanan Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House &; Home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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