2- & Jayashree, from Mark, 11/26.....re.... Marriage for this lady

[Guest guest]

Mark,

 

Thanks for the analysis. But I think, talking might not many times

give any result. Also, without knowing her personally too well, I

cannot judge what is wrong with one's thinking, etc. Also, you see,

that when in general people have a tendency to think that when things

go right, then that person has right thoughts and if not, that person

has thoughts that need to be corrected or he/she makes poor choices,

etc. This may not always be correct. I think nobody is forever right

or forever wrong, even when considering a single aspect in life. When

the times are good, even wrong choices work out, and the opposite

when the time is not good, and also, to a large extent, our planets

control our very thinking - for example, we all believe in god, but

how many of us take spirituality seriously - this may not mean one

has to do bhajans all the time, but quite different - ie, thinking

for the welfare of others, not being prone to anger, etc. In the

story of Shirdi Saibaba, a lady comes to visit him. And Baba thanks

her for a hearty lunch she gave him. The lady says to Baba that she

has never fed him, why he is saying so. For that, Baba says, that

morning, when the lady (who is poor) is trying to eat the last piece

of bread she had, a hungry dog came by and looked at her anxiously,

so the lady gave her bread to the dog instead. So Baba says, since he

was the dog's atman, so the lady has fed him sumptuously. How many of

us do you think are really capable of this kind of unselfishness, ie

to give to others (especially a dog), when we are starving and also,

poor otherwise? When we read this, we feel, the lady has acted

correctly, that is the way it should be, but it is hard to practice

the same. That is because, we are all limited to a large extent by

the planets, so mere talking may not change anybody or anything

easily, which is why many people believe Jyotish, though Jyotish is

rather a dynamic science I feel, ie, what we see in each chart is not

something static and made-up once and for all and there is much more

to it dynamically changing/changeable. But it should be correct or

dependable to some extent.

 

Regards,

 

Jayashree

 

 

vedic astrology, "Mark Kincaid"

<m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> Dear Jayashree:

>

> You've done a good beginning analysis here. But, now...we 'all'

need to

> understand... not only what malefic influences are going on

in 'our' charts

> but most! importantly....

>

> what can be done....to neutralize....and even transform

the 'negative'

> influences....into positive effects!

>

> To me, this, is the 'greatest'....value and benefit of Jyotish....

>

> Not only to see the danger on the horizon, but also, to see what

needs to be

> done!, differently....

>

> And, If it's true that the Planets in our charts only represent our

karmas

> coming back to roost, so to speak, ....

>

> Then 'we', all need to understand 'how' we can change our thought

patterns,

> which our chart particulars represent so we can produce a new and

more

> desirable effect!

>

> Our challenges and problems in our lives...are like mistaken....

menu orders

> in a restaurant.

>

> We've done actions in the past, thinking they were correct...and our

> 'orders' are now coming to us.... but when we look at what the chef

is

> bringing...we say.....!

>

> That's not what I wanted! and he says....'But, that's what you've

ordered!'

>

> And we look around and say....'But, I want 'that'!'

>

> And he says....'ah, very good....and begins to prepare your 'new'

order...

>

> Life is like that waiter...Life just innocently is giving us the

products,

> consequences of our actions....

>

> Only our malefics...represent our 'mistaken' notions as to what we

thought

> we wanted!

>

> So...now, we are still free to re-order!

>

>

>

> When you talk to your friend, can you get a glimmer....what seems

to be the

> hang up?

>

>

> I mean, when you talk with people long enough, it occurs to you,

what people

> are doing that is literally pushing the fulfillment of

desire...away from

> themselves!

>

> She's also got Sun in Virgo...which is often fairly particular

either about

> what one wants or sometimes is being a little too critical.

>

> Ask her if she's a little hard on herself? That's definitely a

Virgo Sun

> quality....

>

> And if she's that way with herSelf.... then she needs to be careful

that

> she's not being to 'critical' or Virgoish... so to speak

about 'others'!

>

>

> I was doing the chart of a lady once, who was single, again after 4

previous

> marriages. And she had literally, no!, malefic influence upon both

her 7th

> house or 7th house lord, which of course I found very interesting!

>

> When I talked to her, in conversation, I realized her Virgo Rising

was the

> culprit.

>

> She was not only critical.... of herself....Virgo, in the first

House, but

> also very critical of the 'mates'....

>

> Which made total sense when you think of the energy of the

first...house...

> might go automatically to the 7th house, almost like a Planet's 7th

House

> aspect...upon the opposite House.

>

> So, I advised her to be less 'critical'....upon herself... and also

> especially on her mates....

>

> and within a few weeks...she accepted another offer of

marriage....and is

> now happily married for several years!

>

>

> We need to find, and quite often you can hear the dramas, the

planets that

> are involved in the problems and challenges in our lives....

>

> And once identifying the Planets that are causing the

unhappinesses... then

> we can begin the process to figure out how to change the thought

patterns

> which those Planets represent...and then....the karmas will be

different!

>

>

> Jyotish is not only about finding the problems... but changeing our

Stars!

>

>

>

>

> Take care

>

>

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

>

>

> PS.... oh yes... with Saturn in Aquarius in her chart, ask her if

she's too

> patient, about getting married? Saturn in Aquarius is very good,

but

> sometimes when Saturn is strong....one is willing to wait....

> when sometimes, especially with Virgo in her chart

creating....undue,

> criticalness.... she might be 'waiting' for a perfect mate....

which may be

> unrealistic....

>

>

>

> Hope this helps....

>

>

>

> Sincerely.....

>

>

>

>

>

> PSS.... I also create a daily Jyotish newsletter that follows the

Transiting

> planets every day as well as a lot of exciting and wonderful Jyotish

> knowledge.

>

> Feel free to contact me at: m.kincaid@m... for this 'free'

newsletter.

----------

> >"Jayashree" <jayashree_ravi@m...>

> >vedic astrology

> >[vedic astrology] Marriage for this lady

> >Wed, Nov 26, 2003, 8:48 AM

> >

>

> > Respected members,

> >

> > A friend of mine, a nice, well-employed lady, is not married at

age

> > 39. Her dob is: Sep 25th 1964, 10:40:12 AM, New Delhi (77 E 12,

28 N

> > 36). She is concerned regarding marriage. I tried to do a thorough

> > analysis and here I present my views. Nevertheless, I have to

admit

> > I'm not an astrologer, but only a learner and hence lack adequate

> > knowledge. Can any of you please help with shedding light on her

> > prospective marriage?

> >

> > Within my limited knowledge: i) Darakaraka Jupiter singly placed

in

> > 7th house spoils the bhava ii) Rahu placed in 8th house without

> > benefic aspect renders some amount of Kalathra-dosha iii) Upapada

> > lagna as well as Upapada Lagnesh Saturn are aspected by Mars, but

I'm

> > not sure of this as Mars is lagnesh. In Navamsa: the Darakaraka

> > Jupiter is in debility in 6th, ii) 7th lord of Navamsa is conjunct

> > Rahu and debilitated Moon - this can also be seen as AK Rahu is

> > conjoining Saturn in 4th house of mental peace and happiness in

the

> > Navamsa - I don't know which view is appropriate, but I think

Rahu's

> > conjunction with Saturn the 7th lord in Navamsa is not good.

> >

> > Now I lack the clarity to give appropriate weightage to the above

and

> > pinpoint which factor is of real trouble having caused the real

delay

> > with marriage. Also, some people say, some afflictions in the

> > horoscope go away with end of certain dashas. This lady is running

> > her Rahu dasa and has already crossed Jupiter and Saturn bhuktis.

> >

> > Can someone please shed light on when marriage is likely for this

> > chart and about the quality of the marriage?

> >

> > Thanks and best regards,

> >

> > Jayashree

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

 

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

> >

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

 

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Jayashree:

 

Interesting words from you. And I agree with many.

 

However what I'm talking about is not "mere talking", but a profound

inquiry into the nature of one's ignorance.

 

In Vedic Science there is this profound idea that ignorance is a quality of

'pragya parad'.

 

Which loosely translates as 'mistake of intellect'. Ignorance is not based

in Reality, we are all one with God...only at times, we forget that....

 

And that's due to a 'mistake of 'cosmic' intellect' which means we get

temporarily....dis-connected from ourSelves...and God....

 

In Ayurveda which is another great Vedic Science there is much understanding

about how one's tendencies and thought patterns....literally create one's

health or ill-health.

 

So, in Ayurveda there is much attention on re-setting the mind & body to

more spontaneously be in the 'right' mode.

 

For example there are many rhythms that when one is in-tune with then

digestion is strong and good product of digestion results.

 

However, if you're eating at the wrong time or rushing or reading and

digesting, etc. then the products of that digestion are not so profound.

 

Like this, Jyotish recognizes that the 'malefics' in our charts represent

a profound mis-understanding about the nature of life and reality related to

the significations of those particular planets.

 

If the Sun is malefically aspected, then one may have poor self-confidence

or a weak, center or 'I'....

 

and the result is much unhappiness.

 

The beginning Jyotish remedy is to draw attention to improving the Sun in

one's chart.

 

This is not just a call for 'mere thinking'...but is to serve to direct a

person's attention into an area in their lives that they've actually come to

work on.

 

Then, the Vedic, Jyotish arsenal of prescriptions and remedys can begin to

be applied to strengthening the Sun....and as a result strengthening the

person in a way that mere....life affirmations or hopeful thinkings can not

begin to change!

 

 

Like this, the malefics that are presently responsible for delaying marriage

for this lady....are really a blessing in disguise.

 

In all of our charts, there is the script of what we're doing 'wrong' to

literally pushing success in life....away from us.

 

Whether it's staying up too late, or being afraid of committment or even

intimacy.

 

I find most people 'fail' in marriage not because of a lack of compatability

but due to a lack of skill.

 

Now, we can see in our charts where our lacks of skill reside and we can

begin to take the steps towards changeing those parts of us...that are not

producing the desired results!

 

 

 

Hope this helps...clarify....

 

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS..... feel free to join a free Jyotish Newsletter that I create called:

Nature's Astrology; Star Reports. This focus on the daily Transits as well

as many other themes in Astrology & Jyotish.

email me at: m.kincaid to join.

 

 

 

 

 

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>"Jayashree" <jayashree_ravi

>vedic astrology

>Re: 2-[vedic astrology] & Jayashree, from Mark, 11/26.....re....

Marriage for this lady

>Wed, Nov 26, 2003, 6:03 PM

>

 

> Mark,

>

> Thanks for the analysis. But I think, talking might not many times

> give any result. Also, without knowing her personally too well, I

> cannot judge what is wrong with one's thinking, etc. Also, you see,

> that when in general people have a tendency to think that when things

> go right, then that person has right thoughts and if not, that person

> has thoughts that need to be corrected or he/she makes poor choices,

> etc. This may not always be correct. I think nobody is forever right

> or forever wrong, even when considering a single aspect in life. When

> the times are good, even wrong choices work out, and the opposite

> when the time is not good, and also, to a large extent, our planets

> control our very thinking - for example, we all believe in god, but

> how many of us take spirituality seriously - this may not mean one

> has to do bhajans all the time, but quite different - ie, thinking

> for the welfare of others, not being prone to anger, etc. In the

> story of Shirdi Saibaba, a lady comes to visit him. And Baba thanks

> her for a hearty lunch she gave him. The lady says to Baba that she

> has never fed him, why he is saying so. For that, Baba says, that

> morning, when the lady (who is poor) is trying to eat the last piece

> of bread she had, a hungry dog came by and looked at her anxiously,

> so the lady gave her bread to the dog instead. So Baba says, since he

> was the dog's atman, so the lady has fed him sumptuously. How many of

> us do you think are really capable of this kind of unselfishness, ie

> to give to others (especially a dog), when we are starving and also,

> poor otherwise? When we read this, we feel, the lady has acted

> correctly, that is the way it should be, but it is hard to practice

> the same. That is because, we are all limited to a large extent by

> the planets, so mere talking may not change anybody or anything

> easily, which is why many people believe Jyotish, though Jyotish is

> rather a dynamic science I feel, ie, what we see in each chart is not

> something static and made-up once and for all and there is much more

> to it dynamically changing/changeable. But it should be correct or

> dependable to some extent.

>

> Regards,

>

> Jayashree

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Mark Kincaid"

> <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

>> Dear Jayashree:

>>

>> You've done a good beginning analysis here. But, now...we 'all'

> need to

>> understand... not only what malefic influences are going on

> in 'our' charts

>> but most! importantly....

>>

>> what can be done....to neutralize....and even transform

> the 'negative'

>> influences....into positive effects!

>>

>> To me, this, is the 'greatest'....value and benefit of Jyotish....

>>

>> Not only to see the danger on the horizon, but also, to see what

> needs to be

>> done!, differently....

>>

>> And, If it's true that the Planets in our charts only represent our

> karmas

>> coming back to roost, so to speak, ....

>>

>> Then 'we', all need to understand 'how' we can change our thought

> patterns,

>> which our chart particulars represent so we can produce a new and

> more

>> desirable effect!

>>

>> Our challenges and problems in our lives...are like mistaken....

> menu orders

>> in a restaurant.

>>

>> We've done actions in the past, thinking they were correct...and our

>> 'orders' are now coming to us.... but when we look at what the chef

> is

>> bringing...we say.....!

>>

>> That's not what I wanted! and he says....'But, that's what you've

> ordered!'

>>

>> And we look around and say....'But, I want 'that'!'

>>

>> And he says....'ah, very good....and begins to prepare your 'new'

> order...

>>

>> Life is like that waiter...Life just innocently is giving us the

> products,

>> consequences of our actions....

>>

>> Only our malefics...represent our 'mistaken' notions as to what we

> thought

>> we wanted!

>>

>> So...now, we are still free to re-order!

>>

>>

>>

>> When you talk to your friend, can you get a glimmer....what seems

> to be the

>> hang up?

>>

>>

>> I mean, when you talk with people long enough, it occurs to you,

> what people

>> are doing that is literally pushing the fulfillment of

> desire...away from

>> themselves!

>>

>> She's also got Sun in Virgo...which is often fairly particular

> either about

>> what one wants or sometimes is being a little too critical.

>>

>> Ask her if she's a little hard on herself? That's definitely a

> Virgo Sun

>> quality....

>>

>> And if she's that way with herSelf.... then she needs to be careful

> that

>> she's not being to 'critical' or Virgoish... so to speak

> about 'others'!

>>

>>

>> I was doing the chart of a lady once, who was single, again after 4

> previous

>> marriages. And she had literally, no!, malefic influence upon both

> her 7th

>> house or 7th house lord, which of course I found very interesting!

>>

>> When I talked to her, in conversation, I realized her Virgo Rising

> was the

>> culprit.

>>

>> She was not only critical.... of herself....Virgo, in the first

> House, but

>> also very critical of the 'mates'....

>>

>> Which made total sense when you think of the energy of the

> first...house...

>> might go automatically to the 7th house, almost like a Planet's 7th

> House

>> aspect...upon the opposite House.

>>

>> So, I advised her to be less 'critical'....upon herself... and also

>> especially on her mates....

>>

>> and within a few weeks...she accepted another offer of

> marriage....and is

>> now happily married for several years!

>>

>>

>> We need to find, and quite often you can hear the dramas, the

> planets that

>> are involved in the problems and challenges in our lives....

>>

>> And once identifying the Planets that are causing the

> unhappinesses... then

>> we can begin the process to figure out how to change the thought

> patterns

>> which those Planets represent...and then....the karmas will be

> different!

>>

>>

>> Jyotish is not only about finding the problems... but changeing our

> Stars!

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Take care

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Mark Kincaid

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> PS.... oh yes... with Saturn in Aquarius in her chart, ask her if

> she's too

>> patient, about getting married? Saturn in Aquarius is very good,

> but

>> sometimes when Saturn is strong....one is willing to wait....

>> when sometimes, especially with Virgo in her chart

> creating....undue,

>> criticalness.... she might be 'waiting' for a perfect mate....

> which may be

>> unrealistic....

>>

>>

>>

>> Hope this helps....

>>

>>

>>

>> Sincerely.....

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> PSS.... I also create a daily Jyotish newsletter that follows the

> Transiting

>> planets every day as well as a lot of exciting and wonderful Jyotish

>> knowledge.

>>

>> Feel free to contact me at: m.kincaid@m... for this 'free'

> newsletter.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ----------

>> >"Jayashree" <jayashree_ravi@m...>

>> >vedic astrology

>> >[vedic astrology] Marriage for this lady

>> >Wed, Nov 26, 2003, 8:48 AM

>> >

>>

>> > Respected members,

>> >

>> > A friend of mine, a nice, well-employed lady, is not married at

> age

>> > 39. Her dob is: Sep 25th 1964, 10:40:12 AM, New Delhi (77 E 12,

> 28 N

>> > 36). She is concerned regarding marriage. I tried to do a thorough

>> > analysis and here I present my views. Nevertheless, I have to

> admit

>> > I'm not an astrologer, but only a learner and hence lack adequate

>> > knowledge. Can any of you please help with shedding light on her

>> > prospective marriage?

>> >

>> > Within my limited knowledge: i) Darakaraka Jupiter singly placed

> in

>> > 7th house spoils the bhava ii) Rahu placed in 8th house without

>> > benefic aspect renders some amount of Kalathra-dosha iii) Upapada

>> > lagna as well as Upapada Lagnesh Saturn are aspected by Mars, but

> I'm

>> > not sure of this as Mars is lagnesh. In Navamsa: the Darakaraka

>> > Jupiter is in debility in 6th, ii) 7th lord of Navamsa is conjunct

>> > Rahu and debilitated Moon - this can also be seen as AK Rahu is

>> > conjoining Saturn in 4th house of mental peace and happiness in

> the

>> > Navamsa - I don't know which view is appropriate, but I think

> Rahu's

>> > conjunction with Saturn the 7th lord in Navamsa is not good.

>> >

>> > Now I lack the clarity to give appropriate weightage to the above

> and

>> > pinpoint which factor is of real trouble having caused the real

> delay

>> > with marriage. Also, some people say, some afflictions in the

>> > horoscope go away with end of certain dashas. This lady is running

>> > her Rahu dasa and has already crossed Jupiter and Saturn bhuktis.

>> >

>> > Can someone please shed light on when marriage is likely for this

>> > chart and about the quality of the marriage?

>> >

>> > Thanks and best regards,

>> >

>> > Jayashree

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

>> >

>> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Your use of is subject to

>

>> >

>> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>