Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Dear Narasimha Ji I have tried to explain my understanding of divisional charts with numerous examples. If you can explain and convince me about the flaw in my logic,in terms of Astronomical transformation - then i am happy and no more doubts. Simple example is Hora chart.All the planets in D-2 fall in just Leo and Cancer.So what is the use of the other 10 signs in D-2.There is no use at all.We could have written down this own a piece of paper as well.We are dividing each sign in Rashi into two(Definition of Hora by Parashara -one lorded by sun and other by moon).Check whether the planet is in the first half or 2nd; then see whether the sign is even or odd,based on that we put it in Leo or cancer accordingly.If we plan to think of kendra ,kona aspects and all here in Hora? ,ofcourse we can think, but not any help at all. You have written again statements like both the 'Aries' are the same and no different 'Aries'. I think when we simply say Aries, it represents a sector of zodiacal arc.But for astrology the importance of this Aries lies in the 'tattwa' behind this.Else it is just a name.Aries or any other sign represents some space which is comprised of properties like vayu ,agni or jala , governed by a planet etc. Thus the whole zodiac can be considered as a complete whole which consists of individual tattwas.These can be grouped with varying intensities. For example, when we consider a beam of light - it consists of numerous individual rays.Also each ray if we split will contain tattwas 'VIBGYOR'.There can be numerous beams with varying intensity ,but the basic tattwa is 'VIBGYOR'. Thus similarly ,When we divide a zodiacal arc which we call by aries, we could still find the basic tattwas repeating.Simple example: Aries is governed by Mars but it contains three other nakshathras which is lorded by different planets,say Ketu,Venus and Sun.And with in 4 padas of Ashwini itself one can find again tattwas of Aries,Taurus,Gemini and Cancer.Thus when we try to comprehend, it is not the name Aries that matters, but the tattwa underlying. Thus the basis of navamsha is the tattwas of nakshathra padas as Chandrashekharji has pointed out. I am writing these mails again not to win an arguement,rather to check the validity of the rules we have assumed in divisional charts.This check cannot be done by me as my knowledge is having its limits when compared to the Gurujis. Thanks Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Dear Pradeep, I no doubt agree with your reasoning in general. However, my understanding of this issue is that 'aries is aries' because we have to bear in mind that we deal with the symbolic representation, so, if aries happens to be say lagna in varga chart it represents the whole sign /otherwise it would be another segment/sign../. I don't see contradiction here-just a bit of abstract thinking in applying the principle.As,at the same time, not much will manifest from varga promisses if rashi-navamsa don't promise that in a 'seed'form, as well. Hope this helps with this seemingly contadictory issue. Regards, Annavijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: Dear Narasimha JiI have tried to explain my understanding of divisional charts withnumerous examples.If you can explain and convince me about the flaw in my logic,in terms ofAstronomical transformation - then i am happy and no more doubts.Simple example is Hora chart.All the planets in D-2 fall in just Leo andCancer.So what is the use of the other 10 signs in D-2.There is no useat all.We could have written down this own a piece of paper as well.Weare dividing each sign in Rashi into two(Definition of Hora by Parashara-one lorded by sun and other by moon).Check whether the planet is in thefirst half or 2nd; then see whether the sign is even or odd,based onthat we put it in Leo or cancer accordingly.If we plan to think ofkendra ,kona aspects and all here in Hora? ,ofcourse we can think, butnot any help at all.You have written again statements like both the 'Aries' are the sameand no different 'Aries'.I think when we simply say Aries, it represents a sector of zodiacalarc.But for astrology the importance of this Aries lies in the 'tattwa'behind this.Else it is just a name.Aries or any other sign representssome space which is comprised of properties like vayu ,agni or jala ,governed by a planet etc.Thus the whole zodiac can be considered as a complete whole whichconsists of individual tattwas.These can be grouped with varyingintensities.For example, when we consider a beam of light - it consists of numerousindividual rays.Also each ray if we split will contain tattwas'VIBGYOR'.There can be numerous beams with varying intensity ,but thebasic tattwa is 'VIBGYOR'. Thus similarly ,When we divide a zodiacal arc which we call by aries, wecould still find the basic tattwas repeating.Simple example: Aries isgoverned by Mars but it contains three other nakshathras which is lordedby different planets,say Ketu,Venus and Sun.And with in 4 padas ofAshwini itself one can find again tattwas of Aries,Taurus,Gemini andCancer.Thus when we try to comprehend, it is not the name Aries thatmatters, but the tattwa underlying.Thus the basis of navamsha is the tattwas of nakshathra padas asChandrashekharji has pointed out.I am writing these mails again not to win an arguement,rather to check the validity of the rules we have assumed in divisional charts.This check cannot be done by me as my knowledge is having its limits when compared to the Gurujis.ThanksPradeepArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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