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Dear Narasimha Ji

 

I have tried to explain my understanding of divisional charts with

numerous examples.

 

If you can explain and convince me about the flaw in my logic,in

terms of

Astronomical transformation - then i am happy and no more doubts.

 

Simple example is Hora chart.All the planets in D-2 fall in just Leo

and

Cancer.So what is the use of the other 10 signs in D-2.There is no

use

at all.We could have written down this own a piece of paper as

well.We

are dividing each sign in Rashi into two(Definition of Hora by

Parashara

-one lorded by sun and other by moon).Check whether the planet is in

the

first half or 2nd; then see whether the sign is even or odd,based on

that we put it in Leo or cancer accordingly.If we plan to think of

kendra ,kona aspects and all here in Hora? ,ofcourse we can think,

but

not any help at all.

 

You have written again statements like both the 'Aries' are the same

and no different 'Aries'.

I think when we simply say Aries, it represents a sector of zodiacal

arc.But for astrology the importance of this Aries lies in

the 'tattwa'

behind this.Else it is just a name.Aries or any other sign represents

some space which is comprised of properties like vayu ,agni or jala ,

governed by a planet etc.

 

Thus the whole zodiac can be considered as a complete whole which

consists of individual tattwas.These can be grouped with varying

intensities.

 

For example, when we consider a beam of light - it consists of

numerous

individual rays.Also each ray if we split will contain tattwas

'VIBGYOR'.There can be numerous beams with varying intensity ,but the

basic tattwa is 'VIBGYOR'.

 

Thus similarly ,When we divide a zodiacal arc which we call by

aries, we

could still find the basic tattwas repeating.Simple example: Aries is

governed by Mars but it contains three other nakshathras which is

lorded

by different planets,say Ketu,Venus and Sun.And with in 4 padas of

Ashwini itself one can find again tattwas of Aries,Taurus,Gemini and

Cancer.Thus when we try to comprehend, it is not the name Aries that

matters, but the tattwa underlying.

 

Thus the basis of navamsha is the tattwas of nakshathra padas as

Chandrashekharji has pointed out.

 

I am writing these mails again not to win an arguement,rather to

check the validity of the rules we have assumed in divisional

charts.This check cannot be done by me as my knowledge is having its

limits when compared to the Gurujis.

 

 

Thanks

Pradeep

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Dear Pradeep,

I no doubt agree with your reasoning in general. However, my understanding of

this issue is that 'aries is aries' because we have to bear in mind that we

deal with the symbolic representation, so, if aries happens to be say lagna in

varga chart it represents the whole sign /otherwise it would be another

segment/sign../. I don't see contradiction here-just a bit of abstract thinking

in applying the principle.As,at the same time, not much will manifest from varga

promisses if rashi-navamsa don't promise that in a 'seed'form, as well.

Hope this helps with this seemingly contadictory issue.

Regards,

Annavijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote:

Dear Narasimha JiI have tried to explain my understanding of divisional charts

withnumerous examples.If you can explain and convince me about the flaw in my

logic,in terms ofAstronomical transformation - then i am happy and no more

doubts.Simple example is Hora chart.All the planets in D-2 fall in just Leo

andCancer.So what is the use of the other 10 signs in D-2.There is no useat

all.We could have written down this own a piece of paper as well.Weare dividing

each sign in Rashi into two(Definition of Hora by Parashara-one lorded by sun

and other by moon).Check whether the planet is in thefirst half or 2nd; then

see whether the sign is even or odd,based onthat we put it in Leo or cancer

accordingly.If we plan to think ofkendra ,kona aspects and all here in Hora?

,ofcourse we can think,

butnot any help at all.You have written again statements like both the 'Aries'

are the sameand no different 'Aries'.I think when we simply say Aries, it

represents a sector of zodiacalarc.But for astrology the importance of this

Aries lies in the 'tattwa'behind this.Else it is just a name.Aries or any other

sign representssome space which is comprised of properties like vayu ,agni or

jala ,governed by a planet etc.Thus the whole zodiac can be considered as a

complete whole whichconsists of individual tattwas.These can be grouped with

varyingintensities.For example, when we consider a beam of light - it consists

of numerousindividual rays.Also each ray if we split will contain

tattwas'VIBGYOR'.There can be numerous beams with varying intensity ,but

thebasic tattwa is 'VIBGYOR'. Thus similarly ,When we divide a zodiacal arc

which we call by aries, wecould still find the basic tattwas

repeating.Simple example: Aries isgoverned by Mars but it contains three other

nakshathras which is lordedby different planets,say Ketu,Venus and Sun.And with

in 4 padas ofAshwini itself one can find again tattwas of Aries,Taurus,Gemini

andCancer.Thus when we try to comprehend, it is not the name Aries thatmatters,

but the tattwa underlying.Thus the basis of navamsha is the tattwas of

nakshathra padas asChandrashekharji has pointed out.I am writing these mails

again not to win an arguement,rather to check the validity of the rules we have

assumed in divisional charts.This check cannot be done by me as my knowledge is

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